A child concieved as a result of rape..........sm
Posted By: m on 2009-03-06
In Reply to: Who in the world would want to give birth to a child a child conceived during rape?????..nm - Jan
is still half the mother's. Half her blood, half her genes, half her family history. The rapist can only have as much control over the victim after the fact as she allows. To murder a child just because it was conceived in such a manner reduces the mother to the level of the rapist.
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Who in the world would want to give birth to a child a child conceived during rape?????..nm
Again:L How many children do you have?
final result
I think pretty much this debate was McCain's best hope. His strength, according to most, is foreign policy. I thought that all O really needed to do was avoid being seen as weak on foreign affairs. He more than lived up to that. The clear frontrunner is O. This debate did not change that. The next two pres debates will show O's strengths and Mc weaknesses. The Sarah/Joe debate is going to be high theatre. I am so looking forward to that one.
Another point. I don't get all misty when Mc tells his bracelet/POW stories. I think they are blatant attempts at pulling emotional strings and I cringe when anyone, anywhere tries to manipulate me. I am saying he uses stories for his benefit instead of feeling them. So as far as I am concerned they backfire.
I'm on the page, I'm looking at the result
http://www.gallup.com/Home.aspx
OP said Likely voters 49/47. That's what it states. You can decide to pick and choose which ones you want, but drudge said of likely voters 49/47. That is what OP said. Also OP said "for anyone who believes in polls". The dems are all are so he!! bent on choosing only what benefits Obama. This poll still benefits Obama so what's the problem. Yes you can still site the other two which are not a true representation but they are 49/43 and 51/45. You are still only talking about a 6 point lead. That is not a heck of a large lead to claim victory. When there are still about 3 weeks to go.
Man I hope McCain wins then I'll come back and listen to you all whine. The race is not over yet. If Obama wins I will not be happy, but I will come on and admit I was wrong, but if McCain wins prepare for the other.
The top result on google for miserable.
First it was 'Failure', and now it's 'Miserable' search google for it.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=miserable&btnG=Google+Search
The inevitable end result of socialism...
dictatroship. Historically it has happened time and time and time again. What is dictatorship if not altering the constitution to re-elect yourself for life, centralizing all power in yourself...yada yada. At least some Venezuelans realized it before it was too late. If he loses the referendum they could be looking at civil war as well.
You see crime being a result of economy, but I see
Bush and rape charges....
He was never charged. A very mentally ill woman filed a lawsuit. I outlined it above. The one against Reagan was never a charge either....was in that Kitty Kelley rag of a book. Never substantiated.
This makes me 'thinking': If that is so, then it maybe was not really a rape...nm
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Never heard of rape charges against Reagan or GW. sm
Also, Kaye Summersby, Ike's *supposed* mistress said that they were very close but never consummated anything.
Yeah, we got to get those rape rooms back and pronto...
You know, so the rapists (Hussein's henchmen) can practice their sexual preferrence freely....
Saddam's rape rooms are replaced by US prisons.....
In addition, how many people DIE of starvation every single day in Africa (mostly children)? We don't even have to invade a country to save them.
Below is a report on Abu Ghraib prison. Some Iraquis might not agree with how much more moral the Americans are:
"[B]etween October and December 2003, at the Abu Ghraib Confinement Facility (BCCF), numerous incidents of sadistic, blatant, and wanton criminal abuses were inflicted on several detainees. This systemic and illegal abuse of detainees was intentionally perpetrated by several members of the military police guard force. … The allegations of abuse were substantiated by detailed witness statements (ANNEX 26) and the discovery of extremely graphic photographic evidence. … I find that the intentional abuse of detainees by military police personnel included the following acts:
a. Punching, slapping, and kicking detainees; jumping on their naked feet;
b. Videotaping and photographing naked male and female detainees;
c. Forcibly arranging detainees in various sexually explicit positions for photographing;
d. Forcing detainees to remove their clothing and keeping them naked for several days at a time;
e. Forcing naked male detainees to wear women's underwear;
f. Forcing groups of male detainees to masturbate themselves while being photographed and videotaped;
g. Arranging naked male detainees in a pile and then jumping on them;
h. Positioning a naked detainee on a MRE Box, with a sandbag on his head, and attaching wires to his fingers, toes, and penis to simulate electric torture; …
j. Placing a dog chain or strap around a naked detainee's neck and having a female soldier pose for a picture;
k. A male MP guard having sex with a female detainee;
l. Using military working dogs (without muzzles) to intimidate and frighten detainees, and in at least one case biting and severely injuring a detainee …
These findings are amply supported by written confessions provided by several of the suspects, written statements provided by detainees, and witness statements. …
In addition, several detainees also described the following acts of abuse, which under the circumstances, I find credible based on the clarity of their statements and supporting evidence provided by other witnesses (ANNEX 26):
a. Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees;
b. Threatening detainees with a charged 9mm pistol;
c. Pouring cold water on naked detainees;
d. Beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair;
e. Threatening male detainees with rape; …
g. Sodomizing a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broom stick."
—Executive summary of Taguba report, finalized Feb. 29, 2004, briefed to superiors on March 3, 2004, and submitted in final form on March 9, 2004
Why subject the rape victim to a surgical abortion. Birth is safer. nm
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Oh I guess you would rather the rape rooms and torture rooms go back online
You extreme leftists don't follow a wild thought through to the end. If you did you'd never post some of the stuff you pass off as coherent thought. You would rather defend a murderous dictator, his sons, and his terrorist friends than even entertain the thought of supporting your president even if you think he's wrong. You are really quite transparent about where your loyalties lie. You want to see the U.S. crash and burn. You are sucidal in your leftist loyalties.
You are not a liberal you are a wacko who has gone off the deep end and in need of serious help.
oh yea... not a child...
even though before most know they are pregnant the heart is already beating...
I haven't seen the video, I don't think I need to because I myself will never have an abortion, but just like any procedure I would have done I would think I would want to know what it involves so you maybe someone having it should watch it!
I bet your child gives you
great joy. I am happy that you found a career where you can be home with your child. The anti-choice people seem to think as long as every child is BORN things are okay. It is the caring for them after they are born that does not seem too important to them.
If your child goes to an OB/GYN
or planned parenthood and does not want you to even know about the visit, she only has to fill out a small amount of paperwork and the state will pay for the visit--in California, anyway.
Why does a child
play with matches after a parent forbids it? To see if they can get away with it. ;-)
Were you ignored as a child?
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You are a child who cannot understand....
if you are Liberal, post on the Liberals board, etc.
So you take this to mean that you should continually harass the liberal board when you are obviously a con?
And as far as libs posting on the con board, prior to recently it was pretty darn quiet. And we libs are no match for your uncouth and wretched posts for sheer cruel intent. No match at all, in general.
I would also tell you the same thing I told my kids when they were little, just because so-and-so is doing it doesn't make it right. So when you run crying that libs are posting on the con board, it still doesn't make it right - for you or anyone else. So get out of a 6year-old mentality. Or are you a 6yearold?
and to me a child in the womb
is already on this Earth...these children are the most vulnerable, but yes I agree with you...we need to take care of those already born IN ADDITION to those in the womb.
The child has no rights?
Have you viewed the video referenced below? Do you really think abortion should be a method of birth control?
Who knows...if we who believe that the unborn child...
has as much right to life as you, your husband and your children (good thing for them you did not want an abortion I guess or they would not exist, we will continue to speak for them. And maybe, someday, the right person will hear, and we as a country can stop the slaughter of innocents to the tune of 1.2 million a year. While you are okay with that on the basis of your choice, we are not. And nothing you can say or do will ever change that either.
How can one's child being in the military sm
equate to a point for foreign affairs experience? Please explain that to me. I know a lot of people whose children are in the military, in the war zone and not one of them would say they have foreign affairs experience. Also, didn't she herself say she doesn't know anything about Iraq.
You try to keep the spotlight on the child.
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Maybe the child who got the A cheated or
give more money. Not all situations are the same. Furthermore, Obama is the first one to say "leave the kids out of it." He's for better education.
How can they support the child
if the child is aborted? Quite a few women get pregnant and have abortions without even saying anything to the father...
Keeping pants zipped goes both ways...
that is, if the child does not want the parents to know at all
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Ah. Okay to kill a child rather than own up to ...
responsibility. I see. Why not just force feed "the pill" from the time a girl reaches menarche. Better than killing the "mistakes" from "raging hormones" along the way. If you can't teach responsibility, and don't intend to make them responsible...put them on the pill.
The child is due today.
They'll probably be crossing each other's paths in the hospital corridors shortly.
Here's the deal, Ms. New Englander. JTBB has summed up the reason I posted in the first place. You can't have it both ways. If you insist on making something out of nothing with Obama and his so-called "affiliations," then you should have no problem when others try to insinuate connections which may or may not be true between two expectant grandmothers.
You are such a child, interested only in
sake. Do you know what leftie means?
OMG...now you get your news from a child!
Please spare us anymore newsflashes that come from children. We have enough problems with credible news sources on this forum without having schoolgirl rumors posted.
Child, listen up.
You have no idea who you are talking to, yet you seem to believe you know all about me. I have voted in 12 presidential elections in my lifetime, the first one being when Barack Obama was 8 years old. I've been active in politics for nearly 45 years, take my vote very seriously and keep myself well informed on all issues from both sides of the aisle.
Your simplistic dismissal of the jobs loss problems as being atrributable to the illegal immigrants only demonstrates how superficial your understanding is on the subject and speaks volumes about the sources for your information. You, my dear, are the follower, not me.
My support of Obama is based on the emergence of the right man at the right time for the job. I did not cast my vote this time around on my own behalf, like years past. This time, I did it for the sake of my son and the kind of world in which I want to see him live out his years and I can assure you, I do not envision that world being handed over to the divisionist viewpoints you have expressed where its okay to single out any given group on which to dump responsibility where it does not belong.
I would not want to put a child into this world, whose
father is a rapist, the child having - as you yourself stated - 1/2 of the father's genes!
No, thanks!
Last Katrina child goes home
Last Katrina child goes homeBy Tim Reid
A mother and her missing daughter are reunited seven months after a hurricane devastated New Orleans |
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THE last of more than 5,000 children missing after Hurricane Katrina has finally been reunited with her mother, ending the largest child-recovery effort in US history.
After seven months of searching by her mother, amid fears that her daughter had died in the flooding in New Orleans that followed the hurricane in August, four-year-old Cortez Stewart was reunited with her family in Texas.
Cortez was the last of the 5,192 Gulf Coast children listed as missing or displaced after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita struck the region. Of those, all but 12 have been found alive and all of those are now back with their parents.
For Lisa Stewart the happy ending came when she was contacted by the National Centre for Missing & Exploited Children that said it had found her daughter. “I was overwhelmed, happy, joyous,” she said.
During their separation her daughter’s fourth birthday had passed last November with no sign that she was dead or alive. “It was devastating,” Mrs Stewart said.
When the storm struck, Cortez was with her godmother, Felicia Williams. After seeking refuge in a hotel, Cortez and Ms Williams were winched to safety by helicopter and flown to Atlanta, Georgia.
Mrs Stewart and her five other children were rescued from their home in New Orleans as the floodwater rose.
They were taken to the nearest piece of dry land, an interstate overpass, where they stayed for four days, before being evacuated and placed in a flat in Houston, Texas. For months Ms Williams and Mrs Stewart tried to make contact, not knowing if the other was alive, but without success. Their efforts were hampered by incorrect name spellings and other misleading information given to government officials.
“Many agencies didn’t have a good account of who they were helping,” Bob O’Brien, director of the centre’s missing children division, said. “More than 411,000 were evacuated to more than 40 states, and it became very hard to track the movement.”
The centre traced information about Ms Williams through her former employer and then located relations in Georgia. When Cortez was reunited with her mother and five siblings last week in Houston, Mrs Stewart almost fell upon her, screaming: “The baby! It’s the baby!”
More than 12,000 adults were reported missing after Katrina. About 1,900 are still missing. More than 1,300 others have been confirmed dead. |
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Coulter's the poster child for the right.
They obviously emulate her and try to be like her, obviously not realizing or caring how terrible it makes them look. You can see from these boards that people like her do have a constituency, unfortunately.
I Ms. Schulte gave a very classy and dignified response.
No, Republicans would rather the child live.
instead of being aborted and thrown in the trash, like it was nothing.
They have hearts....they just don't view the child...
as a child. That is how they rationalize it. Because your average person's basic moral values tell them killing a child is wrong. Therefore they deny it is a child. Or they rationalize by saying "I would not have one, but it is not my business if someone else does." Well, yes it is. If we all had that attitude, none of the wrongs in the world would ever be righted.
They should go and view the video link posted below. Anyone who could view THAT and still say it is not a child that is destroyed indeed has a hardened heart. It broke my heart. I have seen abortion video before, but I have never seen anything like that. Like the preface said...you have the guts to view that, you are no longer igorant of what is really happening. Now you have knowledge of the choice you are making or the procedure you are enabling. It is absolutely horrific. And most who are pro choice will NOT watch it because they want to remain in comfortable denial. No one likes to feel guilty. We are designed that way. :)
First of all, all anyone has to go on about the biracial child thing...
was Dem supporters who said that the Bush campaign called them and said those things. First of all, and I don't like the man, Karl Rove is way too smart to have people call and identify themselves as being from the Bush campaign if he was trying to leak something like that. Second, I don't believe for a minute that if it were true and John McCain knew it he wouldn't have clocked Karl Rove. John McCain dislikes Karl Rove as much as I do. They have verbally jousted on many occasions.
And anybody who bothered to check would know the child was adopted from Bangladesh. That was a long time ago, has been debunked, and even if it were true (and I do not believe it is), it is not the same thing as saying on TV that you admired a man and that you would be proud to be on a ticket with him, and then within weeks turn right around and throw him under the bus in such a mean-spirited attack. I thought Joe Biden was better than that, and apparently I also was WRONG.
Yes, this is an innocent child. What if it ISN'T true?
What does this do to that 16-year-old? What about that?
Ignorant or not...many did suggest that the child was hers...
and the reason I say that is that she chose to have the child. The child's father is in their lives; they plan to marry. I believe she is brave to be willing to take this public and still stand beside her mother, and I believe she will hold her head high. She has a wonderful support system and while I am sure it will not be easy, it will be easier than having that other nonsense hanging over her head. I feel sure this was discussed prior to her mother accepting the slot, because, as you say, it was going to come out eventually.
Thanks for your post...you are the poster child...
for liberal mindset. Practicing the ALinsky method of your party and your candidate...if you can't refute, attack.
Yes, I am an MT. Is THIS post supposed to make anyone believe you are an MT or belong in an MT forum? Surely this is not indicative of MTs et al??
Funny how presenting a different view is characterized as "bullying" when you are the poster child for personal attacks.
The last line of your post tells me more about your character than you think you know about mine.
Have a good day! :)
That's right. I'm child-free by choice, and also -
spouse-free at the present time, but if I find someone to marry, I wouldn't want to be told 'no' because that union wasn't for the purpose of propagation. ESPECIALLY in this day and age, when the Earth already has a couple billion too many of our species on it, already.
Having children shouldn't be mandated by anyone. It should be by one's own, personal choice.
Yes, they do need an egg. And a woman to bear the child.
talking about 2 men who want a child. The surrogate only has to be a woman with a uterus. Her sexual orientation, and even her marital status, do not matter. That does not constitute a 'sexual relationship', though. She is artificially inseminated. And of course there is also adoption.
Equating child molesters and
democrats seeking a change in their country is faulty logic.
Ask any child. I robinhood a good guy or a bad guy?
Children like hero stories. That's why we read them this one. They get the idea.
Hate to say it, but you are acting like a child.
You're one of the ones that won't look at issues. You love the O and no one can say anything different. You are allowed to bash McCain and Palin, but never your messiah.
Well, you better wake up and smell the coffee. Maybe you should do some research. There were plenty of Proven Facts about O posted here. Did you read them? Nope. You call them lies. Well, we shall see.
Stop worshiping him. He's only a man.!!!!!
So what if you're already married with a child?
Are they just going to uproot you from your life? My best friend is 22 and her husband is 25 (like me and my husband) but she already has a 1 year old. I don't (yet) but we are planning to soon after we get our finances straight.
I think I'm going to go back to my homeland where we love and not fight :) (Call us sissies and we'll kick your derriere!)
But can parent sacrifice their child to the military?
that was the question...
and No most of the country doesn't agree with the self-proclaimed martyr, Sheehan.
Child molestation doesn't have a partyline...sm
so on that we agree. I think during the Lunsford investigation, conservatives were more focused on Shiavo than the Lunsford case and the Shiavo case was not and should not have been a major issue from a liberal, at least this one's point of view, but that is besides the point.
I think castration AND 25 years in prison would be good, but then castrating them may just turn them into violent offenders.
I'm not a big fan of the death penalty, but in the case of heinous crimes against children and elderly and serial killers, if we are 100% sure they're guilty then let'em fry.
Child Rapist Gets 60 Day Jail Term
Please contact the governor of Vermont to let him know that his is WRONG. See link below for his contact information.
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January 7, 2006
By: So Cal Lawyer at 3:04 pm
Wcax reports:
Vermont Judge Edward Cashman is coming under fire for handing out a light sentence to a child rapist.The judge says did it because he no longer believes in punishment and he wants to speed the rapist’s entry into a rehabilitation program.
Judge Cashman’s short sentence for an admitted child molester triggered immediate public and political reaction with some lawmakers saying he should leave the bench.
Judge Edward Cashman’s light sentence was the talk of the town. Wednesday he sentenced child rapist Mark Hulett to 60 days in jail. Hulett admitted he raped a little girl countless times when she was between 7 and 10 years old.
As a reminder, in California you can access the online Megan’s Law database of sex offenders here and find out what sex offenders have registered in your neighborhood.
Oprah on child molestation laws...sm
I found this article on Oprah's website and thought this excerpt was powerful on the anti-child abuse/molestation movement. The underlined areas are links, please help out with this as you can.
*This is a full circle moment for me. For me to have been raped at 9 years old … this is so big and so gratifying that I now get to put people behind bars who did to me what they've been doing to other children. This is it. And so I am going to spend my own resources, and I am going to work with law enforcement, and I'm going to change, with your help, the laws in this country state by state by state by state.
We are not going to be a country that talks the talk about how we care about children, and then we let these people back out on the street. It's Joseph Duncan all over again. We have got to let Shasta Groene and all the others be the last children. Let their lives not have been in vain. Let's stand up, and change the laws.
Take a look at these accused child molester profiles, and see if you can be the next person to put a fugitive behind bars.*
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