You anti-choice people are a bunch of
Posted By: raving LUNATICS. -sm on 2009-03-05
In Reply to: Massive abortion protest set for - sm
Get a life, and keep your hands of my body, and every one else's who doesn't happen to agree with you. If you don't like a woman's freedom to choose, then don't choose it yourself. But you sure as he11 aren't going to tell me or anyone else what to do.
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Anti-choice, anti-welfare,
No hypocrisy there?
I'm Topaz - Democrat, pro-choice, anti-
Anti-choice movement gets duped in a Blogger Baby Hoax
The unmarried mother's story about giving birth to a child diagnosed as terminally ill in the womb hit a major nerve on the Internet.
Every night for the last two months, thousands of abortion opponents across the nation logged on to a blog run by the suburban Chicago woman who identified herself only as "B" or "April's Mom."
People said they prayed that God would save her pregnancy. They e-mailed her photos of their children dressed in pink, bought campaign T-shirts, shared tales of personal heartache and redemption, and sent letters and gifts to an Oak Lawn P.O. box in support.
As more and more people were drawn to her compelling tale, eager advertisers were lining up. And established parenting Web sites that oppose abortion were promoting her blog -- which included biblical quotes, anti-abortion messages and a soundtrack of inspirational Christian pop songs.
By Sunday night, when "April's Mom" claimed to have given birth to her "miracle baby" -- blogging that April Rose had survived a home birth only to die hours later -- her Web site had nearly a million hits.
There was only one problem with the unfolding tragedy: None of it was true.
Not the pregnancy, and not the photos posted on the blog of the supposed mother and Baby April Rose, swaddled in white blankets. The baby was actually a lifelike doll, which immediately raised the suspicion of loyal blog-followers.
"I have that exact doll in my house," said Elizabeth Russell, a dollmaker from Buffalo who had been following the blog. "As soon as I saw that picture, I knew it was a scam."
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She had expected only a handful of friends to read it, but when her first post got 50 comments, she was hooked.
"I've always liked writing. It was addictive to find out I had a voice that people wanted to hear," Beushausen said.
"Soon I was getting 100,000 hits a week, and it just got out of hand," she said. "I didn't know how to stop. ... One lie led to another."
So the lie isn't the problem, but the fact that she got addicted to blogging made her continue on. What a sad and disgusting tale. Using a phony story to whip up the anti-choice movement is pretty vile. A woman has the right to choose in this country, but the religious right will do anything it can to try and take that right away. You never hear them talk about the mother in any of their debates. It's like the woman is only a "vessel" to carry a child and doesn't exist in any other manner. "Bring the vessel here." "How dare the vessel speak out."
Boy that's a whole bunch of people.
Please provide evidence that backs up your claim that liberals always, always utilize name-calling. Not sure exactly how many million people that it just in the U.S. Does this also include Europeans, etc.? Please share where you got this information. Seems like kind of a ridiculous claim, but that's just my opinion.
Anti-war people
All you anti-war people I would like to know what your position was right after 9-11? Were you antiwar then or screaming for the President of the United States to DO SOMETHING to protect us. That makes you hypocrites.
Geez. This has to be the most sour, unhappy bunch of people I have ever...
seen. sigh.
How are anti-abortion people nuts
when we as a country are allowing doctors to murder babies that could survive outside of its mother's womb? I am not for abortion but I don't condone violence at abortion clinics either. You have, once again, grouped us all into one huge group and title us as nut cases. I am so sick and tired of a few people doing crazy things and people like you, JTBB, running with it and grouping us all into that. That is close minded and just plain pathetic. Someone who is against waterboarding but has no problem killing babies that could survive outside of its mother. WTH is wrong with some of you people? Let's be nice to people who want us dead but by all means kill a baby we don't want even though it could survive outside of the womb. That makes a whole he!! of a lot of sense, huh? Wise up!
The American people didn't listen to the anti Obama sentiments sm
That Ayers crapola is not applicable. All that bashing of Obama is over SOUR GRAPES BABY!!! WE WON, YES WE CAN, YES WE DID
For all you pro-choice people
who cry and whine about the government staying out of their uterus.....well how about this.....government stay out of my family. What right does the government have in allowing any underage teenage girl to undergo ANY procedure without the consent of her parents? You can't get anything pierced and you can't get a tattoo without consent from a parent, but by all means you can have an abortion? That is just nuts. This is just wrong. I think places should be required to notify the parents of any underage teenager wanting an abortion. They are minors and the parents have the right to know and be involved. The government has NO RIGHT to stick their nose into any parent's rights and take that away.
Many religious people are pro-choice.
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So this article is saying these people won because they are pro-choice?
I am always amazed at how far people will go to advance their agenda. I daresay Sherrod Brown won because Ohio was sick of the do-nothing Republicans, i.e., Taft and Dewine. Oregon and California are majorly liberal states. I don't see much to crow about here.
Looks like the good people of Connecticut made the right choice. sm
In a conference call with reporters Wednesday night, Cheney implied that US Senator Joe Lieberman's (D-CT) loss to anti-war challenger Ned Lamont was a victory for al Qaeda types.
If Lieberman is neocon friendly, you want to definitely aim the Raid can in his direction.
Want to take a wild guess on who Cheney meant by al Qaeda types? Christianne Amanpour from CNN is comparing 911 truthers and liberals to al Qaeda and the alleged terrorist threat yesterday.
People take for granted being able to have any choice whatsoever in what doctor they see
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Obama is the choice of the educated and smartest people nm
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Anti-Semitism versus Anti-Zionism
I wanted to address an exchange below that occurred between myself and a couple of others on the board (just the big bad and another poster who did not use anything to identify herself) last night. In response to my post about the righteous prevailing meaning the Israeli's would prevail because they are the "righteous", just the big bad responded "So was Hitler righteous?" She was likening the Israeli's treatment of the Palestinians as being akin to Nazi Germany's treatment of the Jews. I then pointed out her anti-Semitic rhetoric. To which I was blasted for accusing an anti-Zionist as being an anti-Semitic.
I want to point out to many of you who hold strong opinions regarding the Israel/Palestinian conflict, there is a very fine line between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, a line that was very clearly crossed when just the big bag posted her Hitler remark, a line many have crossed in this discussion by likening the Gaza Strip to a concentration camp. When you say these things you have become an anti-Semitic. Below is an excerpt from an article written by Ami Isseroff:
If you judge a Jewish state by standards that you apply to no one else; if your neck veins bulge when you denounce Zionists but you've done no more than cluck "well, yes, very bad about Darfur";
if there is nothing Hamas can do that you won't blame 'in the final analysis' on Israelis;
if your sneer at the Zionists doesn't sound a whole lot different from American neoconservative sneers at leftists;
then you should not be surprised if you are criticized, fiercely so, by people who are serious about a just peace between Israelis and Palestinians and who won't let you get away with a self-exonerating formula "I am anti-Zionist, but not anti-Semitic" to prevent scrutiniy. If you are anti-Zionist and not anti-Semitic, then don't use the categories, allusions, and smug hiss that are all too familiar to any student of prejudice.
I think that sums it up.
No dear, it's anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic.
Horrific is as horrific does. This long term occupation has spanned 60 years. The Holocaust spanned 12. Thanks to your Zionist government, its historic anmesia and its barbaric practices, the Jewish people have lost their exclusive claim to pain and suffering at the hands of state-sponsored terrorism aimed at the genocidal annihilation of an entire population. Your Holocaust was based on religious affiliation and racial purification. The Palestinian Holocaust is based on the ethnic cleansing of a pathologic nationalism that has been out of control for 6 decades.
You cannot declare yourself in charge of defining any other person's beliefs based on your concepts of anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism. I very painstakingly explained to you where I was coming from with that and how I make the distinction. It is the nationalistic fascist ideals that underpin the Zionist movement, not the Jewish people or their religious affiliation that are the targets of the hatred. In fact, they are also captive to their own Zionist leadership, but to a much lesser degree than the Palestinians.
The Holocaust is the only thing in recent history that can be used by comparison to describe the plight of the Palestinians. In fact, there is no parallel historical context that it can be placed in, other than perhaps the apartheid of South Africa. The most accurate description would be a combination of the two horrors.
Any way you slice it, you are trying to defend the indefensible and will never succeed in gaining any credibility, global tolerance of acceptance (except, of course from the US, who is using your country and your people for their own personal gains...better watch your backs) as long as you are the occupiers and the oppressors.
And anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage
will fix the economy? I think not. Besides anyone with half a brain cell knows BOTH of them will raise taxes on all of us. Forget tax breaks. How do you think the $700 billion and climbing is going to get paid....from money falling out of the sky????? Get real.
Anti-gay/anti-abortion
I'm someone who believes in minding my own business. What others do in their family lives is none of my business. There hasn't been one single (or married) gay person who has ever hurt me.
On the other hand, the policies of the last eight years have hurt me a great deal. I don't have health insurance, so McCain can't tax mine, but he will tax everyone else's.
I want a President who can speak English (for a change), one who is intelligent and even tempered, and one who not only acknowledges that there is a huge problem with the middle class but whose entire platform has been devoted to solving that problem.
One day, McCain says the "fundamentals of the economy are strong." The next day, he's canceling a debate to rush back to Washington to fix the "crisis," except that he doesn't really "rush," and he didn't cancel the debate. He's running around like a chicken with its head cut off.
Obama's slogan has always been change, from the very beginning, and McCain has stolen that slogan.
I'm just personally sick and tired of politicians who are pro-corporations and anti-Americans.
Corporate tax breaks simply don't work. The beneficiaries of these breaks pocket the money. They don't create jobs; they outsource them. As MTs, we should know that more than anyone.
Obama wants to reward businesses who KEEP jobs in America. That's why I voted for him, along with the other reasons above, and that's why my daughter and son-in-law also voted for him, so he has received three votes from this household alone.
The "trickle-down" theory doesn't work and depends on the non-existent benevolence of greedy executives. It's time to try the "trickle-up" theory, IMHO.
Everyone is so upset at the thought of rising taxes. I wish someone would tell me just HOW we expect to pay for all Bush's wars, as this will fall to the next President, along with the present financial fiasco.
I don't feel the need to make the choice. It's a child, not a choice. n/t
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sorry bunch of
comments. nit pickers unite!!
Bunch of wussies
Which is why we are where we are right now..We are pansies, wussies. We dont take a stand, we are wishy washy. I am just acting like a republican and striking back and using the good old smear campaign that republicans have perfected. You continue to be quiet, mild mannered and you will get no where in today's politics. Hate?? Nah. I hate no one. Im just playing the same game the republicans are playing. What is good for one is good for the other..I think it is fun watching the lying opposition squirm, makes me smile.
What a bunch of prudes.
besides that, I think the whole nation is due for a HUGE party after having endured 8 years of W and a perfectly wretched presidential campaign. An exciting celebration is just what the doctor ordered in the midst of a collapsing economy, the post dismal holiday blues and unemployment/food stamp and jobless rates at highest in decades. What would you have them do? Sit around reviewing their shrinking 401Ks or file their taxes perhaps? Sheesh. Lighten up, will ya?
what a bunch of hicks
Watch CNBC for the rest of the week 24/7 and then vote.
what a bunch of negative
nellies. Why even bother getting up in the morning with that burden of resentment on your shoulders?
What a bunch of losers.
lawsuit after lawsuit and NOW we have Obama being portrayed as having quadruple citizenship. Do you hear yourselves? Preposterous. Ridiculous. Stupid. Full of all kinds of phoney outrage. For crying out loud, get over yourselves.
Along with a bunch of Republicans
banks by tens of billions of dollars.
http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090206/Bailout.Oversight/
What a bunch of Pelosi!!!
In other words...what a bunch of bu!!sh!t.
GOP, bunch of liars and criminals
The GOP's Spreading Plague
By Joe Conason
Salon.com
Friday 30 September 2005
Voters are notoriously slow in voting out politicians accused of corruption, but they may reach the tipping point with the latest revelations.
To be an honest Republican these days must be to wonder what awful revelation is coming next - and how the Grand Old Party, which once claimed to represent political reform, became a front for sleaze, corruption and cynical criminality. Across the country, from the Capitol to statehouses, Republican officials are under indictment, under investigation or under suspicion.
This week's headlines featured the indictment of Rep. Tom DeLay and the probe of Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, but the infection of venality among their fellow partisans is now reaching epidemic proportions. So widespread is the plague that keeping track of all the individual cases, and their increasingly baroque variations, has become a distinct challenge.
Consider Jack Abramoff, once the prince of K Street lobbyists and a dedicated right-wing ideologue who boasted of his powerful connections to DeLay, Karl Rove, Grover Norquist and the entire Republican apparatus in Washington. Already under investigation by the Justice Department for his influence peddling among House members, including DeLay, and his swindling of Indian tribes, Abramoff was indicted last month for bank fraud in a separate South Florida case involving a casino boat company that he partly owned.
The fraud allegedly committed by Abramoff and his business partner Adam Kidan involved a phony wire transfer they used to purchase a controlling interest in SunCruz from the company's founder, Konstantinos Gus Boulis, in 2001.
Abramoff and Kidan later fell out with Boulis in a bitter business dispute that turned violent. In February 2001, gunmen ambushed Boulis on a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., highway and shot him repeatedly. On Tuesday, Florida authorities arrested three New York men with mob connections for the Boulis killing. Two of the men - Anthony Moscatiello and Tony Ferrari - had received payments totaling more than $240,000 from Kidan and Abramoff. Moscatiello, a longtime associate of the Gambino Mafia family, and Ferrari were supposedly providing food and consulting services to SunCruz - or so Kidan claimed when questioned by prosecutors. There is no evidence, however, that Moscatiello and Ferrari provided any services to the company.
Connecting the dots isn't difficult here: Kidan and Abramoff want to get rid of Boulis, who won't go away. Kidan and Abramoff hire Moscatiello and Ferrari with SunCruz money. Moscatiello and Ferrari allegedly whack Boulis, without any motive of their own. If the Broward County state's attorney has sufficient evidence to win convictions for a capital crime, some people will probably be talking soon in hope of avoiding the hot shot.
The stunning fall of Abramoff, who has yet to hit bottom, is certainly the most colorful tale of Republican depravity. The corporate money laundering to Texas politicians that led to DeLay's conspiracy indictment, and the suspicious insider stock transaction that spurred investigations of Frist by the Justice Department and the Securities and Exchange Commission, seem mundane by comparison. Outrage will be warranted if their misconduct is proved, but everyone sadly knows that these felonies are now common practice in our political and corporate culture.
Corporate misbehavior has also brought down right-wing publisher Conrad Black, neoconservative strategist and former Bush advisor Richard Perle and the entire corporate board of Hollinger Inc., the Republican-friendly media conglomerate formerly controlled by Lord Black - and that he and others are plausibly accused of illicitly looting for their own benefit. Furious shareholders forced Black to relinquish control of the company and are suing him, as well as Perle and former Black deputy David Radler, for $500 million. The SEC is also suing Black and Radler, and the Justice Department is investigating the former Hollinger directors.
Last month, US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, who also happens to be the special prosecutor in the Valerie Plame case, accepted Radler's guilty plea to mail fraud and wire fraud. Radler is now believed to be cooperating in the prosecution of what former SEC chairman Richard Breeden, a Republican who investigated Hollinger on behalf of shareholders, termed a corporate kleptocracy.
Kleptocratic morality evidently ruled at least two Republican statehouses in the Midwest as well. Currently under indictment are former Gov. George Ryan of Illinois, whose trial on bribery charges began last week, and Gov. Robert Taft of Ohio, who pleaded no contest last month to charges of accepting illegal gifts from a state contractor.
That contractor is Thomas Noe, a coin dealer who received lucrative investment deals with the state's Workers Compensation Fund and is now at the center of a gigantic scandal known as Coingate. More than $12 million has disappeared from the fund, and former GOP official Noe stands accused of laundering money to various Republican politicians, including the Bush-Cheney campaign. Like Abramoff, Noe is a Bush Pioneer, responsible for raising at least $100,000 for the president last year.
Still another Pioneer is currently under criminal investigation in a celebrated corruption case involving Randy Duke Cunningham, a prominent Republican representative from San Diego with a senior position on the House defense appropriations subcommittee. On Aug. 18, FBI and IRS agents raided the offices of defense contractor and Bush fundraiser Brent Wilkes.
Wilkes is reportedly a former business associate of Mitchell J. Wade, the head of a defense contracting firm called MZM Inc. who is under investigation in San Diego for alleged bribery of Cunningham. According to newspaper reports, Wade purchased a home owned by Cunningham at a price inflated by at least $700,000, and also permitted the congressman to use his 42-foot yacht free of charge. Federal agents searched Wade's offices in July.
Although prosecutors have brought no criminal charges in the case yet, they have filed civil court documents describing the home sale as a violation of federal bribery laws - and Cunningham, who has served in Congress for decades, has already announced that he will not seek another term next year.
The Republican National Committee's new treasurer, Robert Kjellander, is under investigation too. (Naturally, he is also a Bush Pioneer.) Not long after he assumed his new post at the party's Washington headquarters, Kjellander received a federal subpoena for records of his dealings with the Illinois Teachers' Retirement System, a state pension fund, and the Carlyle Group. Federal prosecutors are reportedly looking into alleged corruption at the fund, and have asked Kjellander to provide information about a $4.5 million fee he received from Carlyle for his role in arranging investments by the fund with the huge private equity fund. Carlyle, of course, is closely connected to the Bush administration, including the president's father, George H.W. Bush, who has worked for the firm as a rainmaker and advisor.
In fairness, it should be said that all these pols and parasites may be innocent (except for those already convicted), or at least not guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It is also true that voters have historically been slow to evict politicians from office because of corruption charges.
But public opinion of congressional Republicans is hitting new lows, and Americans are growing furious about the war in Iraq, the government response to Hurricane Katrina and rising energy prices. The natural impulse to throw the rascals out can only be encouraged by the Gilded Age spectacles now unfolding in Washington and in cities across the country as the indictments continue to come down between now and November 2006.
Joe Conason writes a weekly column for Salon and the New York Observer.
Is this what it has come to, a bunch of draft dodging, sm
stay-at-home politicians calling decorated war veterans cowards. They have their nerve.
I have been out of the loop lately with politics, but this tops all.
Well you had to know the threats were coming next from this bunch..nm
They are a scary bunch aren't they?sm
“When the government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.” –Thomas Jefferson
looks like a bunch of sheep to me living in USA..sm
hmmmmm....? Just because everyone is voting for Barack doesn't make any of it right - they all are bad candidates to some of us......
blechhhhhhhhhhhhh
JMO.........no flames required......
Yes. We are all a bunch of stupid wretches
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I just got off that site after reading a bunch
of questions. Some are inappropriate as:"Why does your wife look so miserable all the time." This has nothing to do with serious questions. There was also one on there about somebody losing their labradoodle and what was he going to do about it. Others are down right nasty. I call that abuse.
Some people are just plain nuts. There are over 11,700 questions listed on there and I think I only got to read around 300. Most that I read were appropriate and relate to questions on what he was planning to do.
Now, before you scream at me, I didn't vote for him, I'm definitely not a fan of his, but I'm willing to watch and see what happens and give an opinion or two once in a while....and that's all it is, an opinion, like everyone else on this board are allowed.
I love it! Bunch of bums. NM
Yeah, thanks a bunch for posting....sm
Even though most of the "blame" can be contributed to the dems through the years, repubs are, in part, also to blame, for not sticking to their guns.
Sam has been posting this stuff for weeks, and I don't care if she does paraphrase what she reads, because she makes it easy to understand too.
Anyways, this guy is spot on for his short in a nutshell review, too. Really liked his website.
I think we should be glad the bill didn't pass. It still had a bunch of crap in it. Maybe they'll get it right this next time.
I'm thinking of buying a bunch of really mean -
pitbulls, and teaching them to seek and destroy wall street CEO's.
Yep, but you won't get the bunch of blind eyes on
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I want facts, not a bunch of mumbogumbo.
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Can we avoid lumping everyone into one bunch?
I'm a liberal and I have to say, I really resent it when people say the libs this or the dem's that and refer to all of us in one great big bunch that worships Obama and thinks he's the messiah. It really bugs the crap out of me. He's a man. He's not my Savior.
I have seen condescension and name calling from BOTH sides of the fence, none of which is appropriate coming from anyone who calls themself an adult. I do find it interesting that it seems to be much more accepted in this election cycle than in years before. I don't know if it's because of the proliferation of message boards and the complete lack of humanity that tends to go with posting on them, or if it's this particular year and set of candidates/winners.
Let's give the man a chance. Yes, he's a man. I believe he is a very smart man and I have high hopes for him. Let's avoid name calling, liberal bashing, conservative hate, etc. That just does everyone a disservice.
Pelosi, O and the bunch don't have the balls to do it...nm
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Low class for that bunch ain't news to me.....
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I saw it too. What a bunch of brainless blabber.
Ultra-left garafabarf skank.
their deeds won't be lost....they get a bunch of
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Agree. what a bunch of garbage.
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This is the biggest bunch of bunk and lies
I've ever read. It's just hilarious how far people will go to try and discredit the very successful Limbaugh. Predictable drivel from the liberal press.
The saying, 'a few bad apples spoil the bunch' is true...sm
I think the loose recruiting tactics to beef of the military that is what is causing these chain of events. My question is how can America screen soldiers to prevent stuff like this?
And to take away their immunity is just as scary to me. There's no time like the present to start unhooking the training wheels.
I find it amusing how a bunch of MTs sitting
around in their robes typing all day have suddenly become the political pundits of the world, interjecting their wisdom (often found on the internet) and view points with such ferociousness. Alert the media! These women are a force to be reckoned with!
I would rather send a bunch of brown envelopes..
against people like you showing how full of (insert word here) you are.
No, the big-money bunch in Orange County had
because they PAY him to.
Yep, remember him calling us a bunch of old cronies?
Back a while he said he was wasting his time on us "old cronies" If that's not mysoginistic (not to say incredily condescending), I don't know what is.
That's okay, though, TS likes himself enough to make up for all of us who don't.
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