it is not an outright lie -

Posted By: Amanda on 2009-03-06
In Reply to: That is an outright lie perpetrated by - Original Poster

My neighbors just brought home a baby they adopted and before the weekend was out guess what - the father found out about it and demanded his baby and guess what - he got the baby because he never gave up his rights.

It is not a lie - if there is a known father, he has to give up his rights too.

And I would think if you are married and having a baby by someone else, your husband would know you were pregnant at some point - so that is a stupid statement!

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Massive abortion protest set for - sm
- This woman is not stable - Good grief!
- Have fun with that - dumb people bother me!
- Pro-Choice Christian view... - Long but please read
  - Bible scripture does not belong on the politics forum. - Shirley U. Jest
    - Oh no you don't........ - sm
      - My post is in accordance with forum rules. - Shirley U. Jest
        You seem more bothered about it at this point.. - MsMT
        I will say this again. I posted here because - Original Poster
        Oh brother - president of death???? please - I just gotta be me
        GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT - blueintheface
        I am pro-choice up the the end of 3rd month. - Jan
        Question - please answer
        Obama is not saying he wants babies murdered - - Amanda
        Government should stay out of those decisions - at all times.............MsMT
        Why do I have this image here of that brain- - fried mother of Carrie in Stephen King's story?
        EXACTLY the image I have..nm - wow
        OMG - thanks a lot, now that's all I have a picture of LOL - I just gotta be me
        You are a total loon - sm
        If people aren't murdering children, then who is performing - the abortions? MsMT
        They are not murdering children - sheesh!!!! - mt
        I am with you on this!...nm - Jan
        Sorry for you ......you think chickens and humans - are equal!! MsMT
        People with a lot more understanding and empathy than - the 'religiosos' will ever have. nm
    - Don't worry, Shirley U. Jest. This poster is - Original Poster
      - Satan huh? - wow!
        So where do YOU think such lack for the sanctity of life comes - from? God? MsMT
        From God? Emphatically no. It comes - Original Poster
        So tell us: Where is the morality in bombing family - planning clinics & killing doctors?
        This is why I don't go to church - Good grief!
        Are you kidding me? - sm
        Those of us with actual brains, & can think for ourselves, - don't need the religion crutch to lean on, -sm
        How sad for you that you don't understand the TRUE - reasons for churches............nm
        And these are?....nm - Jan
        What is the reason for church - explain
        I have a question: Suppose there would be no religions, would - Jan
        I think the world would be in FAR better shape than - it is currently. - Topaz (nm)
        Totally agree with you on this one. - sm
        I totally agree with that, too. - Jan
  - Bible scripture does not belong on the politics forum. - Shirley U. Jest
  - You might have given............ sm - m
    - Yes you are right - Long but please read
- I think this is just wrong - I just gotta be me
  - Agree.......................nm - sm
- Go jump in a lake...nm - now
  - Haha! I so agree, she summed it up in 1 sentence, there is nothing more to say!..nm - Jan
- Wouldn't that money be better spent on CONTRACEPTIVE funding and education sm - CDW
  - Heck, yes!............nm - Jan
    - You can go broke funding them for all I care.. - not MY place...............MsMT
  - Heck NO! - sm
    - I meant rather than funding ABORTION, which was the point of the original sm - CDW
      - That money will go overseas as long as U.S. citizens keep - their mouths shut! nm
- I think you picked the wrong time to make such a suggestion...nm - Jan
- Wow....if a lot of people did that - Chele
  - It'd make an impression alright - by showing them - how narrow-minded you people really are.
    - Did you even read what I typed - Chele
  - I agree and disagree..... - sm
    - That's fine and good for a temporary sitution - I just gotta be me
      - Shouldn't you have considered all that BEFORE you - opened your legs? MsMT
        and next you're gonna probably tell us you've never - ever opened YOURS.
        I sure did..................... - sm
        Right! - Whatever
      - Yes, right, .............nm - Jan
- When I read the ugly responses here to my - Original Poster
  - Sorry, but your protest idea, is what's UGLY, - not to mention forcing your view on others.
    - Wouldn't that be forcing YOUR view? - MsMT
      - Nope. She can have all the babies SHE wansts to have. - And ditto for me and abortions.
  - I think your post would have done better - see message - I just gotta be me
    - Yes, put your protest call on the Faith Board, - Jan
  - I agree with you...........we should be ashamed - sm
  - Who in the world would want to give birth to a child a child conceived during rape?????..nm - Jan
    - Apparently Obama's mama did. - HumBuggle
      - Please 'elaborate' on this. I have NEVER heard about this...nm - Jan
        Jan, I think she is being sarcastic - nm - Amanda
        I cannot believe this, who is this 'HumBuggie'? - Jan
        Another loon! - ??
    - I have children and I can understand - sm
    - A child concieved as a result of rape..........sm - m
      - Well how reassuring. If I ever end up with one, I'll be - sure to send it to you -- C.O.D.
      - Who do you think you are? - screw you!
        Doubt Your Story - HumBuggle
        I don't doubt her story........... - Mrs. Bridger
        Doubt this story all you want... - ??
        Doubt your sanity. - HumBuggle
        Well said...................nm - Jan
        Good for you - you tell them sister - Way to go
        Apparently not who you think I am........ sm - m
        You don't even want to know what I think you are. - screw you!
        you mispoke yourself - me
        I think you are out of your mind! And I aIso think that you have never - Jan
        I have been.............. sm - m
        You were raped? - ?
        Who the heck do you think you are... - Shirley U. Jest
        Hmmmm.......... sm - m
        One big difference. - Shirley U. Jest
      - I would not want to put a child into this world, whose - Jan
        Can you imagine what his life would be like if the - other kids in school found out?
        You would have to prove a ............. sm - m
        You've got to be kidding! How narrow-minded - can you be? NM
        Make an appointment with a a doctor - Jan
    - Just seeing your post and believe it or not - Lisa
      - This makes me 'thinking': If that is so, then it maybe was not really a rape...nm - Jan
        MAYBE it was just the heart of a much better woman!! - Maybe you wouldn't understand that!! nm
        A better woman? - screw you!
        Yeah! Here you go, sister!...nm - Jan
        No, this is I will NEVER understand. and who is - Jan
        What's wrong with adoption? sm - m
        If you know who the father is - you need his permission for adoption also - - Amanda
        That is an outright lie perpetrated by - Original Poster
        it is not an outright lie - - Amanda
        In this case, when the father is a rapist, EVERYTHING IS WRONG.. - Jan
      - There will always be nuts in this world...nm - Jan
  - very well said - shelly
- Why? - Sigh
  - Are you say Jesus was pro choice? - HumBuggle
  - sin is a sin is a sin - shelly
- May I ask how many children do you have?..nm - Jan
  - Let me guess: You have either NONE or TWENTY...nm - Jan
    - That's my guess too..nm - Sigh
- I would rather send a bunch of brown envelopes.. - sm
  - Each person is entitled to their own - sm
  - You are the one full of (insert word here) - GhostMom
    - I don't care who you are - HeeHee
  - what, didnt your mother believe in abortion? - shelly
    - You know what is a shame? - see message
    - Nope - sm
  - I'd do better than that! I think I'd send the brown - envelopes to them, filled with s_ _ t.
    - LOL LOL - nm - nm
- You anti-choice people are a bunch of - raving LUNATICS. -sm
  - Wow that's exactly what a crack addict would say. - HumBuggle
  - If you're so worried about your body........ - sm
    - It's MY body, and always will be - before, - during and after pregnancy. Still MY body.
    - This is really strange! Since when does - Jan
      - You just made my point.....shouldn't they be protected - since they can't protect themselves!!? nm
      - Most abortions don't take place......... sm - m
        But till the age of 18, it is the PARENTS - Jan
        Say what? - sm
  - Okay....why are people getting - sm
    - The President has a lot more important issues to - think about now than a bunch of red envelopes.
      - First of all.... - sm
      - No, he is not pro-choice. He is the 21st century's - Original Poster
        Hitler was a choirboy compared to your average - religious zealot freak-a-zoid.
        What exactly do you think Pro Choice is? - Amanda
      - No, he is not pro-choice. He is the 21st century's - Original Poster
- You have no right - sorry
  - These people don't have "caring hearts" - - they're run-of-the-mill TERRORISTS.
    - Whacked out Jesus freaks? - HumBuggle
      - So I guess - ??
        No, I'd rather they OD and stop being a drain on society. - HumBuggle
    - number 1 Jesus freak here - shelly
      - You home-grown terrorists cant see past your - own noses. Not just sad, it's scary.
      - Do you religious freaks only care about the fetus and not of - Jan
        Relgious Freaks? Do you mean Muslims? - HumBuggle
        What a weird person this is - hmm
        I don't think they even know - screw you!
        You are the VICTI M, you didn't do anything wrong!...nm - Jan
        Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. - HumBuggle
        If the religious freaks forced me to have it, - - smsg
        Calling everyone RELIGIOUS FREAKS is as offensive - HumBuggle
        That was funny! - screw you!
      - WE do get the big picture, which is why we care about - preserving human life! MSMT
        Yeah, we humans are just such glorious, HOLY little - beings who can do no wrong. -sm
        What about the life of the raped woman,,,you are hypocritical freaks!...nm - Jan
      - Oh don't feel sorry for me.... - sorry
    - Terrorists...good word - agree..nm - sorry
- Waste of time and money! - Shirley U. Jest
- Maybe you should put...(sm) - Just the big bad
  - Please! - ugh
    - Why don't you give your time & money to the - Octo-Mom and her 14 kids? - sm
    - Ummmm......(sm) - Just the big bad
      - I know...sm - ugh
  - You told us back during the campaign - that you chose to have

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So, if he is outright lying about the BC, that is okay
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Not a stretch...an outright lie...........nm
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That is an outright lie perpetrated by

Planned, Murder your Baby, Parenthood. No woman has to seek the permission of the father to have a baby adopted who is the victim of a rape. Think! How can you get permission if you don't know the perpetrator? You don't even have to have permission if you know the perpetrator. Planned Parenthood has used that ruse to force many young women into abortions. And how have they done that? Many women who are in extramarital affairs have abortions because Planned Parenthood tells them that their husbands will have to know, so to keep it quiet, abortion they are told, is their only option. It's all about money, folks. Death to babies is not about choice, it's about money.

Sure but outright hysteria and overdramatization
of known facts is another. the media controls the day, and the media has self-appointed themselves to be our checks and balances which is SCARY!!!

"Let older Americans die without care" is not what he said - it is an outright lie
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Conservative outright spin and BS, spread on Fox by Gregg Jarrett, for the real whole unbiased story
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgif=/c/2009/101/02/ED151514UE.dtl, there was one slight recession in 1937-1938 because of spectacular growth when it took off, read the rest of the story. Pubs will say anything to rewrite history and try to save face. IMO