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AR, that is a compliment, coming from a supporter of murderous statements.

Posted By: Zauber on 2005-10-01
In Reply to: Maybe, Zauber, because you are not rational. - AR

And, you can take your right wing rationalizations and put them where the sun don't shine. I am passionate about what I believe but in no way irrational. You might have a coherent argument to make if you thought you could best me or anyone else here logically or rationally, but I haven't seen you try. You're invited right now to express your political opinion and should you do so with dignity and respect, you'll be treated that way in return by the majority of people here, including me. Keep up the personal sniping like a spoiled child and that is exactly how you'll be treated in return.


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I take that as a compliment coming from you!
;-)
murderous heart
sounds to me as if you have the heart of a true American -NOT.  How fitting for you to say such a thing on 9/11- typical democrat?   I hope not.  shame on you for wishing someone's death.
when dems are mean, it's funny...when pubs are mean, it's murderous
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I take that as a compliment...

I have a lot in common with LEGIONS as far as this administration goes.


Note, I say administration. I almost always do because Bush did not (would not have been able) to single handedly attempt to  rule the world and take control of all its energy sources. In fact I have always thought  Bush was the just the dupe the neocons chose to run because he seems so down homey, just like us, etc.  Cheney, Rumsfeld, and Rove pretty much run the country along with their cohorts the neocons. For the billionth time, most of us don't hate Bush. I hate what his administration has done to all of us, but that's about it. I just hope we survive until January 2009.


Oh, a compliment -thanks

nm


I definitely take that as a compliment! =)
nm
don't compliment me

it makes em mad and they come creeping back out from under . . . .


 


Thank you for the compliment s/m
but I am not a good person, I am just a person who cares deeply for my God, my family, my country and my fellowmen.  I just finished watching the debate intently.  I was really hoping to hear something from either candidate that would solidify either my opinion or validate the opinions of people, like yourself, who so sincerely believes Obama means us harm.   All I know to do is what I always do when I have something to large for me to deal with it and I pray, "Lord, take care of this, I can't handle it."  That doesn't mean that I won't have periods when I try to yank the decision back out of His hand but I do have faith that our Lord is really in command and nothing is going to be too big or too bad for Him to handle. With that, I'm off to bed and to a peaceful sleep.
I will take that as a compliment, thank you.
Even though it was the "Three Faces of Eve" not seven. It is no surprise that you have difficulty keeping these things straight, among others.
Not a bit angry....lol Thanks for the compliment, tho.
nm
May I compliment you on your grasp of the issues s/m
I tell ya, the people railing on this board make me almost root for Obama.  Republicans seem oblivious to the fact that while Sarah Palin may be a great soccer mom, it isn't soccer mom experience that makes a great VP or God forbid, president.  I used to greatly admire John McCain's military service but I have gotten to the point that I don't give a big hairy white rat's behind.  He has bragged on himself until every time he brings up his "distinctive" military service I want to throw up.  Anyone with half a brain that is functional can see your  post hits the nail on the head.  Refreshing to see someone with reasoning capabilities and......honesty.
Well, thanks for the compliment -- just proves what i think about people like u
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Finally a compliment for our Sarah! Yes, she is brilliant....
glad one of you finally noticed!!!!!

Yeah, yeah, I know you were being saracastic, but hey.....when you're right, I will admit it.

Sarah Palin is brilliant, make no mistake. She's smarter than you are. She's smarter than the left media.

Darn right, stroke of brilliance for the lady.
ex-O supporter
Okay, so I have been reading a lot on Obama.  Not his policies.  I did happen to support a lot of his ideas.  But the whole messiah thing really got me.  My conclusion about the whole thing is this:  I do believe in separation of church and state, however, O says he is a Christian.  If that is true, he could not sit by and let people imply in any way that he is from God or the Messiah.  This should be something he would speak about at some point in time, being God fearing and God following.  This would go against a Christian's belief.  So far, I havent heard him address this at all.  Anyone else?  I am not saying he is the antichrist, because according to my father, who is a preacher, and many other people the antichrist has to come out of Europe/Middle East?  Anyway, something sure isnt right about all the fanfare. 
I too am ex-O supporter
I too am an ex-O supporter. I voted for him in the primaries. Sure wish a lot of this stuff came out before hand, then Hillary would have won and even if she were to get in it would not be as bad as what is trying to get in.

I'm not a "geography" expert, but you said your dad said the antichrist comes from Europe/Middle east. Is Africa considered the Middle East? If Africa is not the middle east then, no I would not imagine its him. Needless to say he has the support and funding of many countries in the middle east.

I did read that Michael Savage is supporting McCain. He has a great radio talk show and by all means he is NO Bush fan. He is an idependent. He cuts Bush down all the time. So taking it from him who despises Bush (he has said some really negative things against Bush on his show) I would take what he says into consideration. Here are a couple things he said (I will post the link to the actual article afterwards). After that is another link to a preacher my husband had me listen to. The preacher is very knowledgable about Obama, Obama's family, Wright, and what is going on, etc. Very interesting and learned a lot listening to him. I'm looking for more of his sermons on other things besides Obama. I'm not religious (I'm a very spiritual person, just not religious) but I enjoyed his sermons so much want to hear him more.

On Michael Savage - the article says....

“You may say, oh, who listens to that guy Savage? What does an endorsement from him mean?

“It means more than you may imagine.”

Savage said his endorsement means more than the backing of a dozen newspapers he mentioned, including the Los Angeles Times, Newsday, Chicago Tribune and New York Post, because his “daily circulation is larger than any one of these newspapers.

“I have millions of listeners,” he continued, “most of whom, by the way, are independents. In case you don’t know it, they’re not all conservatives. Most of my audience are independents and they have been waiting for some kind of a signal…

“They despise what Bush has done to this country as much as you do.

“And I understand that John McCain is not really that much different in so many ways, that it’s hard to endorse him.

“I have put my own ego aside and I have to say what’s best for America.

“I’ll take my chances with the old war horse and even with Sarah Palin, who I’m not really a big fan of, by the way, over this naked Marxist revolutionary, because I don’t want to see what the next Pol Pot’s liable to do to the world.”

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/savage_endorses_mccain/2008/10/28/144993.html

Here's the preacher - well worth the time to listen to.

http://www.pyrabang.com/contenteditor.php?pd=4057&ps=4121&org=3955&target=http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/ndnr10-17-08.html

Anyway...welcome to the world of the awakened.

On one other note, what also makes me leery about Obama is that Farrakan (sp?) is telling all his followers that Obama is the Messiah. Just a bit too creepy and cultish for me.
ex O supporter
I wonder why the LA Times, who admitted they had a tape and refuse to release it to the public stating that they promised confidentiality to their source, would not want to release it?  I can safely say that IF the video was in good favor for Obama, they would gladly release it.  I am quite sure given the fact of its secrecy, it is quite negative about his connections.
As a supporter
I have yet to hear a gay?/no-way! supporter explain why gay marriage opens the door to polygamy any more than straight marriage does. The same "tools" that gay?/no-way! proponents strive to use to keep gays from marrying could be used to keep polyamorous couples of marrying.
I'm an Obama supporter, but...

...I think Hillary should stay in the race as long as it takes for every American to be able to participate in the voting process.  Obama has said the very same thing, even though Hillary's been lying about it and saying he wants her to drop out.


Trust is the main issue I won't be voting for her.  If she somehow "wins" the primary, I'll probably write in Senator Obama's name, but I could never vote for her with a clear conscience.


I'm an uninsured American with a terminal illness, and this may very well be the last election in which I'll be able to participate.  This is the first time in my entire life that I don't feel my choice involves voting for the "least worst" person.  It's the first time in my life I've actually been excited about voting for a candidate, and I'm grateful I had the opportunity to know what that feels like.


Different if it comes from a supporter or the campaign....
neither McCain or Obama can control what supporters do...but this ad was from the Obama campaign. And it flies in the face of everything Obama said he was NOT going to do.
I am an Obama supporter and I think
what he has done is not forgetable, and am not sweeping anything under the rug. Are you sweeping under the rug that in his 26 years in the Senate all but 2 of them McCain has been for deregulation. Do you acknowledge his or any of the other Rep. part in this too. There will be plenty of crises as a President what will he do then?
I AM an Obama fan and supporter
Like I said, you really need to read the posts that you are responding to better.
I'm a McCain/Palin supporter, sm
And I think it's pretty silly to be focused on this so late in the game. I for one, am a woman and a republican (sigh and a poor one at that) and I for one don't think Obama was calling Palin a "pig", it was just his choice of phrases. Many have used it before.
I'm still waiting for ONE Obama supporter on this

The news that he intentionally hid the 800K plus he donated to ACORN.  His camp has admitted to it but said it was an "oversight".....yea, right!  Obama knew what ACORN is mostly all about and he's all for that........ya know, voter fraud?!!!  I'm still waiting for someone to post a fact to refute that statement made by his own spokesperson.   Where is it?   So many underhanded, deviant, illegal characters he has contact with......this is a dem that will NOT be voting for him. 


Yes, these O supporter are "a joke". The hatred
nm
I am a firm supporter of the military, but --
My exhusband was a soldier the entire 20 years we were married and is in fact in Iraq right now; my son, whom I love dearly, is graduating from basic training on Friday. I support the military wholeheartedly, but that does not mean I have to support McCain.

I don't believe that our soldiers should be where they are and I don't believe they should have ever been where they are. And I believe that when they come home, they should have better support and better care than they are getting.

But I have the utmost respect for the military and their families and would always hope and pray the best for them. They did after all fight to give me the right to disagree on who their commander-in-chief should be.

That being said, I also do not think that serving in the military should be experience that counts in running the country. Just because McCain is a a war hero and former POW does not make him entitled to be the leader of the United States of America. That would be the same as saying my ex-husband could have that job; he has just as much experience in the military as McCain, not as a POW, but he has served many more years than McCain did.


She's not an Obama supporter so no concern
@
Ron Paul supporter? Not wanting to fight, just asking.
nm
I should have mentioned I was a loyal Ron Paul supporter.
If that makes any difference.
A Hillary supporter in Pennsylvania has filed...
a lawsuit about Obama's citizenship. I have read...and I haven't read everything yet...that it alleges Obama was born in Kenya, not in Hawaii. I don't have all the details. I don't know if it has merit...I just know it was filed. Probably just sour grapes, but I think the timing is key...a few days before the convention starts. Will be interesting to see how it plays out.

And yeah, QA'ing posts on a posting board is WAY over the top.
Hillary supporter's take on fannie/freddie....

I hope you haven’t just eaten, because what you are about to read will disturb you–and well it should. It’s proof that John McCain foresaw the Freddie Mac, Fannie Mae disaster in 2006– and tried against all Obama-Like minds to ward it off.


Below are John McCain’s remarks urging the passage of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, which he co-sponsored and which was rendered “Dead” in Congress.


Guess who prevailed and didn’t take heed? Or more appropriately, guess who deliberately “looked the other way”?


This is all we need to know to understand exactly WHICH candidate in this election is willing to break some eggs when it comes to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–two organizations that, with the help of certain Democrats, deliberately redistributed wealth the easy way. Now we are all paying for it, as intended all along. Just as John McCain warned below.


As we view the carnage, this is all we need to know to understand exactly WHICH candidate foresaw this carnage we are witnessing,  and which candidate worked to convince the other candidate to help avoid it. It is all we need to know to recognize exactly WHICH candidate had the right judgment and was looking out for the rest of us.


Joe Biden? It’s time for US to be Patriotic? No. It’s time for YOU to be patriotic. In fact, it’s too late. As for you saying, “It’s time to be part of the deal”. We want no part of this “deal”. And what a “deal” it was!


May 26, 2006


Mr. President, this week Fannie Mae’s regulator reported that the company’s quarterly reports of profit growth over the past few years were “illusions deliberately and systematically created” by the company’s senior management, which resulted in a $10.6 billion accounting scandal.


The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s report goes on to say that Fannie Mae employees deliberately and intentionally manipulated financial reports to hit earnings targets in order to trigger bonuses for senior executives. In the case of Franklin Raines, Fannie Mae’s former chief executive officer, OFHEO’s report shows that over half of Mr. Raines’ compensation for the 6 years through 2003 was directly tied to meeting earnings targets. The report of financial misconduct at Fannie Mae echoes the deeply troubling $5 billion profit restatement at Freddie Mac.


The OFHEO report also states that Fannie Mae used its political power to lobby Congress in an effort to interfere with the regulator’s examination of the company’s accounting problems. This report comes some weeks after Freddie Mac paid a record $3.8 million fine in a settlement with the Federal Election Commission and restated lobbying disclosure reports from 2004 to 2005. These are entities that have demonstrated over and over again that they are deeply in need of reform.


For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac–known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs–and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO’s report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO’s report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay.


Quick Info


S-90 Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005


Last Action: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably.


Status: Dead


I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190,to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.


I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation.


Update: Well looky here. Here’s a glowing Wall Street piece on Obama, written in June 2008. You would think Mr. “Regulator” Obama really is Jesus looking out for us! But…..here’s the paragraph that hooked me–the paragraph that haunts today:


He characterized the senator as a quick study on financial services, citing his early support of efforts by Senate Banking Committee Chairman Chris Dodd and House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank to empower the Federal Housing Administration to help struggling homeowners.


Oh they “empowered” all right. The Democrats killed this bill while Dodd, Frank and Obama fiddled and helped Fannie and Freddie cook their books, continue to tank, all the while keeping the regulators out of their way. These are the guys who killed the bill that McCain fought for. The bill that would have avoided the financial disaster we witnessed during the past two weeks. In the meantime, take a look at which senators were feeding at the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac trough. My party is not what it used to be. My party has not only let me down, but it has also screwed me and my country in the process.


Note:  All of these facts can be independently confirmed if you are interested in the truth of this matter.


i agree - i am a lover and supporter of the obvious
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Does anyone here speak McCain supporter incoherence?
nm
Ok, how about he was a "closet Obama supporter" until now..IMHO...nm

the response didn't come from an obama supporter
If you're referring to my response to the OP about scraping the bottom of the barrel. FYI I'm voting for McCain.
Voting McCain, and still a Hillary supporter...nm

typical O supporter, can't take the facts, so switch
to something else...your kool aid should wear off in about 6 to 8 months.
I didn't miss the point - I have been a McCain supporter
I have been on this board arguing over and over why McCain is the better choice. I used to support Obama until a few weeks ago after he beat out Hillary and then all this stuff about his life and the people he associates with (forget Rev. Wright- I could care less about that little dweeb), but his affiliations with the worst of the worst, his voting record, his lies about how he will not tax us, yet has consistently voted to raise taxes on who? The middle income (around $42,000 - if you would call that middle income anymore). His not cutting back on any of the programs he wants to fund. The list goes on and on and on about what I don't like about Obama.

As for McCain - I think he's a decent guy. I think he's way more decent than many of the politicians in Washington. I think he has always been on the side of the people and has shown that by consistently arguing against both dems and pubs if it doesn't benefit the people. I strongly supported the ticket mainly because of Palin. She is certainly one of the most qualified out of the other 3. She has consistently balanced the budget as governer, cut back pork filled bills, stopped wasteful spending, and has done nothing but good things for the people of her state and I believe that will carry over if the republicans win.

I was so expecting a really good debate and believed Gov. Palin helped him tremendously with her outstanding debate outcome, so was expecting nothing but good with McCain. There were so many issues people were talking about with what McCain would need to do to win the debate. I didn't see any of it last night and left me wondering, who does he meet with before debates and speeches and does he listent to any of them. To me his performance last night was so bad shuffling around the stage. I was sitting here typing and heard loud and clear McCain say "that one" not only saying it, but the tone of his voice just hit a raw nerve with me. DH and I just looked at each other and shook our heads. As I stated earlier I was very disappointed as I have been on this board arguing over and over and over for McCain and against Obama. But I don't know what was worse. His saying "that one" or him overusing "my friends". Why hasn't anyone told him to knock it off. He uses it in almost every single sentance he says. Like I say, I got disgusted and turned off the debate. Right now I don't care anymore who wins the election. I'm voting for the constitutional party, if I do even vote at all.
I knew it was a matter of time before we would hear from a McCain supporter
I guess you must figure if you use his middle name enough times people are going to think what? That he's Saddam reincarnated? You really do not give America enough credit to know a name does not make a person who they are, the goodness they do and what they believe in make them a good person. So...when you post about John McCain do you write John Sydney McCain? And do you write Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton? No. You don't even know what Hussein means. Here's a bit of background of the origin of his name. Barack means "To bless" and Hussein means "to be good". Both are beautiful names. I know exactly what you are trying to do. You believe that if you say his name enough times in full people will think of Saddam Hussain. But there are many more good people with the name. For instance...King Hussein of Jordan. The person who wrote the Kite Runner is Khaled Hossain and many more. In fact there are more good people named Hussein than are bad.
Hussein is a very common name in Bangladesh just like Smith or Jones. His middle name honors his grandfather. In case you don't realize this, he was born in America and raised in a Christian home, went to christian churches. To incite feelings of "fear" because his middle name is Hussein? Well just shows what kind of person you are.
Also, you didn't show the good things he has done working in government. And the stuff you did write I don't think a lot of people know what all this means. I read it and its just mumbo jumbo. If you want to talk about bad records and bad things people have done while in government, lets post about Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton. There's enough reading material to last a lifetime.
Best friend to Hillary, a democratic supporter and financial contributer,
a member of the DNC's (Democrat) platform committee has decided to endorse John McCain.  Lynn DE Rothchild is best friends of Hillary and gave her 100,000 for Hillary compaign.  She had not even spoke to Hillary yet about her news, but Lynn announced on CNN today that she was resigning the DNC and voting for McCain.  Lynn stated that our country is divided due to the Democrats and Congress.  She also stated that we need to vote only for the president who will get us through what is going on with our country (which is a lot of things currently) and she stated the only one would be McCain and Palin.  She stated, "I care more about my country right now than I do my democratic party."  Wolf Blitzer stated to Lynn "You know you are are going to get a lot of flack from this?"  Lynn stated that she knew this and just cares more about our country.  Even Joe Lieberman endorses McCain who used to be AL Gore's running mate.  I am sorry, but I agree that our country is divided.     
I agree, and am not an Obama supporter. Just tired of all the racial conflict sm
tired of everything being all about race. If they were both black candidates, then people could all just vote their conscience without even thinking about race.
statements from neocons

Read at your own risk..make sure you have a puke bucket close by.


Quotes from the The American Taliban










Ann Coulter

 


"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."


"Not all Muslims may be terrorists, but all terrorists are Muslims."


"Being nice to people is, in fact, one of the incidental tenets of Christianity, as opposed to other religions whose tenets are more along the lines of 'kill everyone who doesn't smell bad and doesn't answer to the name Mohammed'"










Bailey Smith



"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."


 









Beverly LaHaye (Concerned Women for America)



"Yes, religion and politics do mix. America is a nation based on biblical principles. Christian values dominate our government. The test of those values is the Bible. Politicians who do not use the bible to guide their public and private lives do not belong in office."










Bob Dornan (Rep. R-CA)



"Don't use the word 'gay' unless it's an acronym for 'Got Aids Yet'"


 









David Barton (Wallbuilders)



"There should be absolutely no 'Separation of Church and State' in America."










David Trosch



"Sodomy is a graver sin than murder. – Unless there is life there can be no murder."


 









Fob James (Governor of Alabama)



"Behind this judicial wall of separation there is a tyranny of lies that will fall... I say to you, my friends, let it fall!"


"A good butt-whipping and then a prayer is a wonderful remedy."










Fred Phelps (Westboro Baptist Church)



"If you got to castrate your miserable self with a piece of rusty barb wire, do it."


"Hear the word of the LORD, America, fag-enablers are worse than the fags themselves, and will be punished in the everlasting lake of fire!"


"You telling these miserable, Hell-bound, bath house-wallowing, anal-copulating fags that God loves them!? You have bats in the belfry!"


"American Veterans are to blame for the fag takeover of this nation. They have the power in their political lobby to influence the zeitgeist, get the fags out of the military, and back in the closet where they belong!"


"Not only is homosexuality a sin, but anyone who supports fags is just as guilty as they are. You are both worthy of death."


 









Gary Bauer (American Values)



"We are engaged in a social, political, and cultural war. There's a lot of talk in America about pluralism. But the bottom line is somebody's values will prevail. And the winner gets the right to teach our children what to believe."










Gary North (Institute for Christian Economics)



"The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant–baptism and holy communion–must be denied citizenship."


"This is God's world, not Satan's. Christians are the lawful heirs, not non-Christians."


 









Gary Potter (Catholics for Christian Political Action)



"When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not permit anybody the right to practice evil."










George Bush Sr. (President of the United States)



"I don't know that atheists should be considered citizens, nor should they be considered patriots. This is one nation under God."


 











George W. Bush (President of the United States)



"I don't think that witchcraft is a religion. I wish the military would rethink this decision."*


"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."


"Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."


"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."




*Comment about Wiccans in the military










Henry Morris (Institute for Creation Research)



"When science and the Bible differ, science has obviously misinterpreted its data."


 









J. B. Stoner (White Supremacist)



"We had lost the fight for the preservation of the white race until God himself intervened in earthly affairs with AIDS to rescue and preserve the white race that he had created.... I praise God all the time for AIDS."


"AIDS is a racial disease of Jews and Niggers, and fortunately it is wiping out the queers. I guess God hates queers for several reasons. There is one big reason to be against queers and that is because every time some white boy is seduced by a queer into becoming a queer, means his white bloodline has run out."










James Dobson (Focus on the Family)



"Those who control the access to the minds of children will set the agenda for the future of the nation and the future of the western world."


"State Universities are breeding grounds, quite literally, for sexually transmitted diseases (including HIV), homosexual behavior, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, alcoholism, and drug abuse."


"Today's children... They're damned. They're gone."


 









James Kennedy (Center for Reclaiming America)



"The Christian community has a golden opportunity to train an army of dedicated teachers who can invade the public school classrooms and use them to influence the nation for Christ."












James Watt (Secretary of the Interior)



 


 


"We don't have to protect the environment, the Second Coming is at hand."*


 



*Secretary of the Interior in the Reagan Admin. Responsible for National Policy regarding the Environment










Jay Grimstead (Coalition on Revival)



"We are to make Bible-obeying disciples of anybody that gets in our way."










Jerry Falwell




"We're fighting against humanism, we're fighting against liberalism...we are fighting against all the systems of Satan that are destroying our nation today...our battle is with Satan himself."


"AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. To oppose it would be like an Israelite jumping in the Red Sea to save one of Pharoah's chariotters."


"The Bible is the inerrant ... word of the living God. It is absolutely infallible, without error in all matters pertaining to faith and practice, as well as in areas such as geography, science, history, etc."


"AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals."


"If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being."


 









Jesse Helms (Sen. R-NC)




"The New York Times and Washington Post are both infested with homosexuals themselves. Just about every person down there is a homosexual or lesbian."


"All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the volatile reaction."


"Your tax dollars are being used to pay for grade-school classes that teach our children that cannibalism, wife-swapping and murder of infants and the elderly are acceptable behavior."


"Homosexuals are weak, morally sick wretches."










Jimmy Swaggart (Jimmy Swaggart Ministries)



"The Media is ruled by Satan. But yet I wonder if many Christians fully understand that. Also, will they believe what the Media says, considering that its aim is to steal, kill, and destroy?"


"Sex education classes in our public schools are promoting incest."


"Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it...Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory."


 









John Ashcroft (Attorney General)



"Civilized people – Muslims, Christians, and Jews – all understand that the source of freedom and human dignity is the Creator."










John Whitehead (Rutherford Institute)



"The [Supreme] Court, by seeking to equate Christianity with other religions, merely assaults the one faith. The Court in essence is assailing the true God by democratizing the Christian religion."


 









Joseph McCarthy (Sen. R-WI)



"Today we are engaged in a final, all-out battle between Communistic Atheism and Christianity."










Joseph Morecraft (Chalcedon Presbyterian Church)



"Nobody has the right to worship on this planet any other God than Jehovah. And therefore the state does not have the responsibility to defend anybody's pseudo-right to worship an idol."


 











Joseph Scheidler (Pro-Life Action League)


 


 



"I would like to outlaw contraception...contraception is disgusting – people using each other for pleasure."*




*I get the distinct impression that Mr. Scheidler's poor wife isn't guilty of feeling any pleasure…










Kay O'Connor (Kansas Senate Republican)



"I'm an old-fashioned woman. Men should take care of women, and if men were taking care of women today, we wouldn't have to vote."


 









Keith A. Fournier (Catholic Way)



"We need a legal strategy which protects the rights of those of us who hold Christian convictions which will afford us the opportunity to contend once again for the mind of this culture."










Laura Schlessinger



"I want to coin a phrase here, and I don't mind help. What would be the communication version of "ethnic cleansing?" Because that's what in particular the homosexual activists try to do."


 











Lester Roloff (Texas Homes for Wayward Youth)


 


 



"Better a pink bottom than a black soul."*




*Roloff opened a chain of homes for "wayward" youth in the state of Texas; he was later jailed in 1973 and again in 1975 for child abuse due to the punitive punishment techniques used in his homes. He would have been finished had he not of been specifically given permision to re-open his homes by, you guested it, Governor George W Bush.










Lt. Gen. William G. Boykin



“George Bush was not elected by a majority of the voters in the United States, he was appointed by God.”


 









Pat Buchanan (Presidential Candidate)



"Our culture is superior. Our culture is superior because our religion is Christianity and that is the truth that makes men free."


"There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The "negroes" of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours."


"Rail as they will about 'discrimination,' women are simply not endowed by nature with the same measures of single-minded ambition and the will to succeed in the fiercely competitive world of Western capitalism."










Pat Robertson (Christian Coalition)




"The Islamic people, the Arabs, were the ones who captured Africans, put them in slavery, and sent them to America as slaves. Why would the people in America want to embrace the religion of slavers."


"Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different...More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history."


"When lawlessness is abroad in the land, the same thing will happen here that happened in Nazi Germany. Many of those people involved with Adolph Hitler were Satanists, many of them were homosexuals – the two things seem to go together."


"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."


"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist."


"I know this is painful for the ladies to hear, but if you get married, you have accepted the headship of a man, your husband. Christ is the head of the household and the husband is the head of the wife, and that's the way it is, period."


"[Homosexuals] want to come into churches and disrupt church services and throw blood all around and try to give people AIDS and spit in the face of ministers."


"[Planned Parenthood] is teaching kids to fornicate, teaching people to have adultery, every kind of bestiality, homosexuality, lesbianism – everything that the Bible condemns."


 











Patrick Mahoney (Christian Defense Coalition)

 


 


"It is deeply troubling to have an appointed, unelected commission remove an elected official from office [Roy Moore]. The Court of Judiciary has overturned an election and crushed the democratic process through their actions."*




*Interesting perspective coming from someone who's President was appointed by a group of "unelected judges", thus overturning a democratic election.












Paul Cameron




"I think that actually AIDS is a guardian. That is I think it was sent, if you would, about forty years ago, to destroy Western civilization unless we change our sexual ways. So it's really a Godsend."


"Homosexuality is a crime against humanity."


"Causes of homosexuality include: 'sex with animals'"*


"Unless we get medically lucky, in three or four years, one of the options discussed will be the extermination of homosexuals."


 



*Paul Cameron was discharged from the American Psychological Association, the Nebraska Psychological Association, and the American Sociological Association due to his unethical practices and biased research regarding Homosexuals. His "research" has since been discredited by the scientific community; however his work is still referenced by many fundamentalist organizations as credible.












Randall Terry (Operation Rescue)




"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."


"Our goal must be simple. We must have a Christian nation built on God's law, on the ten Commandments. No apologies."


"I don't think Christians should use birth control. You consummate your marriage as often as you like – and if you have babies, you have babies."


"When I, or people like me, are running the country, you'd better flee, because we will find you, we will try you, and we'll execute you. I mean every word of it. I will make it part of my mission to see to it that they are tried and executed."*


"There is going to be war, [and Christians may be called to] take up the sword to overthrow the tyrannical regime that oppresses them."




*It is interesting to note that Randell Terry's son is Gay










Jerry Vines (Southern Baptist Convention)



"They would have us believe that Islam is just as good as Christianity. Christianity was founded by the virgin-born son of God, Jesus Christ. Islam was founded by Muhammad, a demon-possessed pedophile who had 12 wives, the last one of which was a nine-year-old girl."


 











Rick Santorum* (Sen. R-PA)


 


 



"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [Gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything!"




*Now known as Rick "Santorum" Santorum










Robert Simonds (Citizens for Excellence in Education)



"As the church watches from the sidelines, the ungodly elect atheists and homosexuals to school boards and legislatures to enact policies and laws that destroy our Christian children and discriminate against Christian families."


"Atheistic secular humanists should be removed from office and Christians should be elected...Government and true Christianity are inseparable."


"We'll take away their power and their money. Money comes from students. We'll break their backs by taking 24 million kids out of the public schools."


 













"Raising your children under Americanism or any other principles other than true Christianity is child abuse."


"You do not have the right to be wrong, regardless of what any man-made or demonic charter says."


"Democracy originated in the mind of a rational being who has the deepest hatred for God."


"Do you realize that the only thing that gives democracy existence is sin? The absence of democracy is perfect obedience to god."


"The best way to insure the earth is never over populated is for sensible and righteous governments to clear all forms of atheism and heresy."










Ronald Reagan (President of the United States)



"For the first time ever, everything is in place for the Battle of Armageddon and the Second Coming of Christ."


 











Roy Moore (Former Alabama Judge)


 


 



"If they want to get the Commandments, they're going to have to get me first."*


"Worship With Your Vote"




*Interesting observation of the Radical Right, Judge Roy Moore commits peaceful civil disobedience by refusing to remove the Ten Commandments Monument from the Court. He is considered a Hero. Mayor Gavin Newsom commits peaceful civil disobedience by issuing same-sex marriage licenses. He is considered an Anarchist.












Rush Limbaugh




"Feminism was established to allow unattractive women easier access to the mainstream of society."


"If you commit a crime, you're guilty."*


"There is only one way to get rid of nuclear weapons... use them"


 



*Seems logical enough, doesn't it Rush?










Star Parker (Coalition on Urban Renewal & Education)



"Anybody that believes in separation of church and state needs to leave right now."










Tony Evans (Promise Keepers)



"The demise of our community and culture is the fault of sissified men who have been overly influenced by women."


 









William Rehnquist (Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court)



"The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned."












Michael Savage (Savage Nation)

 




"Oh, you're one of the sodomites. You should only get AIDS and die, you pig. How's that? Why don't you see if you can sue me, you pig. You got nothing better than to put me down, you piece of garbage. You have got nothing to do today, go eat a sausage and choke on it."*


 



*Statement made on live national television


 


I said your statements were ignorant - not you,
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He does not agree with the statements
This does not affect my decision - He does not agree with what this preacher is saying. He gave a very moving speech yesterday.
Innappropriate statements?
An assassination pool on our new president (whether we like him or not) is just an inappropriate statement? Promoting it is just an inappropriate statement? My God we are talking about a bet on a human life here!
I think there were statements to the illusion.... sm
that she would run in 2012 even before the election, but I don't have time to dig back for anything to substantiate that. Just my recollections.

I think we need to wait until it is a little closer to 2012 before we get all up in arms about who may or may not run and start fueling the fires. The political climate will likely be a lot different in 2012 than it is now and there will likely be a whole 'nuther set of issues in addition to the ones that were faced during this election.


Profound statements

 In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm and three or more is a congress.                                       
  


John Adams 


 


                           




If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the     

newspaper you are misinformed.                                                       

                                                                            

Mark Twain                                                                 

                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                            

Suppose you were an idi0t.  And suppose you were a member of Congress …..                                                            

But then I repeat myself.                                                  

                                                                            

Mark Twain                                                                 

                                                                            

                                                                            

I contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a 

man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle.                   

                                                                            

Winston Churchill                                                          

                                                                                                                                                   

                                                                            

A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the         

support of Paul.                                                           

                                                       (So true!!!!!)       

George Bernard Shaw                                                        

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                          

A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man,             

which debt he proposes to pay off with your money.                         

                                                                            

  G Gordon Liddy                                                            

                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                            

Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep               

voting on what to have for dinner.                                         

                                                                            

James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)                                     

                                                                                                                                                     

                                                                            

Foreign aid might be defined as a transfer of money from poor people       

in rich countries to rich people in poor countries.                        

                                                                            

Douglas Casey, Classmate of Bill Clinton at Georgetown University          

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                

Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and            

car keys to teenage boys.                                                  

                                                                            

P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian                                           

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                     

Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors         

to live at the expense of everybody else.                                  

                                                                            

Frederic Bastiat, French Economist (1801-1850)                             

                                                                            

                                                                            

Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it  And if it stops moving, subsidize it.        

                                                    

                                                                            

Ronald Reagan (1986)                                                       

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                        

I don't make jokes. I just watch the government and report the facts.      

                                                                            

Will Rogers                                                                

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                      

If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it      

costs when it's free!                                                      

                                                                            

P.J. O'Rourke                                                              

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                     

In general, the art of government consists of taking as much money         

as possible from one party of the citizens to give to the other.           

                                                                            

Voltaire (1764)               (Oh yes)                                     

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                      

Just because you do not take an interest in politics doesn't mean politics 

won't take an interest in you!                                             

                                                                            

Pericles (430 B.C.)                                                        

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                       

No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in    

session.                                                                   

                                                                            

Mark Twain (1866 )                                                         

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                      

Talk is cheap...except when Congress does it.                              

                                                                            

Anon                                                                       

                                                                            

                                                                                                                                                       

The government is like a baby's alimentary canal, with a happy appetite    

at one end and no responsibility at the other.                             

                                      


broad statements such as this

reveal much, much more about the thinker than the group he is maligning.  Ask any psych professional.  Ask Niles Crane. Dr. Phil.  Dr. Ablow.  Dr. Freud.


 


 


I applaud you for your statements but

I doubt anyone will listen for the reasons you listed. Everything you said is true and I agree wholeheartedly.


When I first came to this board, it was about the issues. There was no name-calling or nastiness, but as the election went on, it got really nasty. Links were posted so we could verify the information and/or come back with a retort. I came back after the election hoping that was all over with and was confronted with messages that were even WORSE than before the election. Like you said, there are no discussions on the issues. There aren't any links to verify anything. It's nothing but rumors and inuendos and O worshipping.


I've said it many times and it always falls on deaf ears. I see some are even on the gab board now about taking off work tomorrow for the inauguration. Lose money just to see "one of the most historical moments in history"? Not me. I've had it up to here with all of it. I've never seen an election where they had so many "historical" items for sale either. It's not the serious ceremony it should be this year. It's more like a circus or parade.


Sure, I wish him luck. He's really going to need it, but I doubt he can pull it off. There's going to be a lot of disappointed people in this country in a year or two.


 


Yes, let us get our statements correct.
Special Report: Barack Obama: The 44th U.S. President

WASHINGTON, Jan. 27 (Xinhua) -- U.S. President Barack Obama Tuesday held talks with congressional Republicans and urged them to quickly approve an 825 billion U.S. dollar stimulus package.

"The statistics every day underscore the urgency of the economic situation. The American people expect action," said Obama after meeting with Republicans.

"As I explained to the Republican House Caucus and I will explain to my former Senate colleagues, the recovery package that we've proposed and is moving its way through Congress is just one leg in a multi-legged stool," said the new president.

House will vote on the package Wednesday, and Senate committees began their own deliberations over it on Tuesday.

However, many Republicans turned against the large stimulus package. And after the meeting with Obama last week, House Republican Leader John Boehner said he and his colleagues told the president they feel the stimulus package is too expensive and too slow.

I personally think, Republicans do not have a chance with Obama. Look what our new president and the dems state about Rush Limbaugh. NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH. Must do what Obama says or he will back stab you. After he, Obama states, "I won and I will trump you."
I heard their statements too and
Although, I think it is to cover their own butts for something. If I could, I would have had them FIRED FROM THEIR POSITION. No open mind at all, just being arrogant.
I thought many of his statements........... sm
were right on. Just because he doesn't march in step with the rest of Hollywood does not make his opinions any less valid. People really do need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Obama has proven himself a liar and a manipulator. He is most definitely against Israel which is a place that no one in their right mind should want to be. He has burdened this country with debt for generations to come and has changed the economic face of this nation for the worse forever....or at least for any foreseeable future.