There is a quote below from another African American. SM
Posted By: AR on 2005-10-01
In Reply to: I'm African American and am VERY offended - Democrat
He was not offended. What is your point?
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Is O really African-American?
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/rush-limbaugh-obama-really-isnt-african-american/
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html
Is O really African American?
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html
http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/rush-limbaugh-obama-really-isnt-african-american/
More added uncertainty as to who he really, really is. At least with McCain, there is none of this distrust. I do not have to worry that McCain is hanging around terrorists, where he was born and if he is a true US citizen, if he was raised and taught by a pastor for 20 years to learn hate, and could go on and on. What you see is what you get with McCain. None of this junk of trying to prove who he is.
As for O, there is no trust for me. He seems deceitful. He gets mad when newspapers go against him and then kicks them off the plane and so on. Even Clintons have said Obama needs A LOT OF ADVISORS if he wins this election. This is not an election, but an eerie movement. Even had to arrest skin heads because of a plot to assassain the O, already. Freaks me out. Just not right for this country or should I now say for this WORLD as the O wants to change it. He does not know anything about foreign affairs to CHANGE THE WORLD. He scares me to death and I am not the only one who feels this way.
Can anyone give me reassurance about the O?
African-American population
It's a good thing if the black population is ever growing into the middle class. It means that that demographic is benefiting from workfare and the changes in welfare that kept the culture dependent soley on the government for many years. The most striking thing about New Orleans is that it is one of the most welfare ridden cities left in the country, and that is why so many people there were in such a poverty state. The able people haven't been made to start providing for and/or bettering themselves. New Orleans is an example of what happens in a nanny state. It's not that the government was not involved. It was involved too much. It's glaringly obvious.
I'm African American and am VERY offended
that he would even make the comment I don't care how he tried to clean it up, or what context he used it
in.
To say that the crime rate would be reduced if you aborted all African Americans is deplorable and your defense of the comment is sickening. It doesn't matter to me if he came back and says it's morally wrong to do so, well DUHHH yeah it would be, so why is he saying this $h!t to begin with.
The first African-American president.
I am not for Obama but I don't wish him any harm. All I have to say is....I would be scared out of my wits to be the first African-American president. I am not saying this because I am racist. I am saying this because there are some extreme racists out there who believe the idea of this is just wrong. Just look at what happened to Martin Luther King and he wasn't even president. I know that was back when race more of an issue, but it still is to some people and I wouldn't put it past some of those freaks to stop this from happening at all costs.
Like I said.....I wish Obama no harm so please no bashing posts about how I'm a huge racist.
What is this African-American stuff? I am white,
If I am to call a black person African-American, then I should be called Irish-American, German-American, Scottish-American, Italian-American, Welch-American, French-American...the list goes on and on.
This is the very example of racism. One color people believing they should be called something different than what they are. That is ridiculous. I am not going to jump through ludicrous hoops. If anyone is that small minded and believes they have to tack on a continent before their name, they need to get a life and live in reality.
just as i hope African American's aren't voting for Obama for that reason!
NM (i suppose that means "no more"? or something) im still a bit new to the board!
Thread topic is African-American Christian endorsing McCain.
rasberries
You make a good point, but I think the real credit for African American progress..sm
is education. You can take away all of the social programs you want to, but if there is not progress in education, you still have poverty.
Yeah, well, I seem to remember Democrat saying she wasn't African-American awhile back. sm
So which is it?
I was brought up Buy American made products, keep American jobs.
Always bought American made cars and bought products from companies where my family was employed. Now look at America? We are definitely connected all around the world.
My feeling? Obama states he wants to start from the poor upward. Not the other way around like it has been for quite awhile. That to me does not necessarily mean just in America, but around the world by taking the poorest countries and working upward so America's pay wages and everything else will be so low and comparable to the poorest countries. After all, we are now connected together.
Cannot wait to see what will happen with the Swine flu this fall with the second wave and what it will do to the economy of all the countries combined at once.
Any child born to American parents is an American -
I am sorry, but I respectfully disagree with you - any child born to American parents is an American even if they are born overseas. The birth has to be registered with the United States, but they are still an American even if they are born in the foreign hospital.
I have 2 cousins who were born in Japan and they have no problems at all being "American".
Arab African????
Bet the African-Americans at the TEA parties
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Need to get that African slavery thing correct
Native Americans and free slaves also held slaves. Only 8% of all American families in the south had slaves. I get so sick and tired of all the apologies for things most people in this country know very little about. Was slavery wrong? Absolutely! But it has gone back since the beginning of man. My ancestors, who are Irish by the way, were also brought here as slave and were beaten, starved, raped, impregnated, you name it, just like the blacks. Do you hear history and present going on and on about that, demanding they be apologized to, compensated somehow, and do they feel entitled? No they don't! They got on with it.
Out of twelve million blacks shipped to the Americas (not America) between the 16th and 19th centuries, ONLY 5.4% of those were brought to the United States. The others were taken to predominantly black countries and sold as slaves in predominantly black countries. MOST of them went to Brazil.
What about the white slaves? Too bad we're so stuck on black slavery, we forgot about them. OVER half of all white immigrants to the colonies during the 17th and 18th centuries were Irish, Scottish, English, and Germans, and they horribly mistreated and abused as well. So while you're so busy apologizing for your ancestors, you need to get your facts straight. My ancestors were slaves as well, even though they were not black, so feel sorry for them if you want to pity someone. They too had their families ripped apart and many never saw them again.
If Rev Wright wants to continue to spew his hatred towards whites, which he does, and lets make no mistake about that, Obama does indeed need to be scrutinized closely for his continued presence in that church for 20 years. I don't give a rat's butt how may seemingly wonderful programs that church had. A lot of churches have great community programs but had very vile underlying reasons for the way they want to penetrate the community.
Prejudice goes both ways...so don't waste your time thinking that you need to feel guilty for anything or worry about what Obama thinks about you. His past relationships he chose after being a young man old enough to make his own choices were his to make. And he chose to make them with dangerous people, and people in other countries that were and still are more than questionable in their reputations, some very dangerous to us and many other countries.
You spend your time doing your homework about Obama and stop thinking you owe him or anyone else anything. You/we do not. Obama has chosen his friends very carefully and for reasons that you have a right to question, only because he is running for president of YOUR country.
So, if you think he is racist against you or any white to a small or larger degree, who cares? That's his problem he will have to deal with. Some very racist people are very good at hiding their true feelings because they don't want to be discovered for what they are.
Preposterous. US...interfering in African politics?
a schoolyard bully straight out of the shrub academy.
After I connect those dots, I see African-Americans voting for a man based solely on his race.
Not because they agree with his politics or think he's the best man for the job, but because he's a black man period. For the record, Obama is absolutely no MLK.
This election was not about race for me either. I disagree with Obama's stand on the morality issues. I disagree with Obama on his political issues. I don't think the man has any experience running anything, and now we give him the entire country to experiement with?!?!!? He has too many shady characters in his past. He's as slick as a snake.
Watch for a lot of upheaval and racial tension throughout the nation in the next few months. My point is this, your man wins the election and instead of behaving in a dignified manner and celebrating appropriately, many will riot in the streets and act like raving lunatics. It is so unbelievably sureal.
I feel like I smack dab in the middle of one of those end of the world scenarios!
That's not the whole quote.
Quote of the Day
The only difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is that the Democrats allow the poor to be corrupt, too. ~Oscar Levant
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A vote is like a rifle: its usefulness depends upon the character of the user. ~ Theodore Roosevelt
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If the person you are trying to diagnose politically is some sort of intellectual, the chances are two to one he is a Democrat. ~Vance Packard
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If you can't convince them, confuse them. ~ Harry S. Truman
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Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear. ~ Harry S. Truman
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If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich. ~ John F. Kennedy
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Too bad that all the people who really know how to run the country are busy driving taxi cabs and cutting hair. ~ George Burns
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When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross ~ Sinclair Lewis
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A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves ~ Edward R. Morrow
Exactly where did you get this quote from me?
 Tally, add 1 nasty for the republicans.
Your Quote from Joe
"The media's worried about whether I've paid my taxes, they're worried about any number of silly things that have nothing to do with America," Wurzelbacher told the former Republican presidential hopeful on his show, "Huckabee." And your quote:"This is what is so funny. In Joe's eyes "taxes" are silly things."
If you notice, he did not say taxes were silly things. He said they're worried about any number of silly things. He didn't specifically say taxes are silly things.
This whole election is out of hand. The media is whipping everyone into a frenzy over a bunch of stupid crap that has no place in the election. I have never seen such garbage spewing from everyone, every newspaper, and you-name-it.
People have to be level-headed and think and decide for themselves and stop the name-calling just because others don't agree!!!!!
I would also like to add this quote.
I posted this below but will post it again.
"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." -- Thomas Jefferson
there was a lot more to that quote
"my muslim faith" If you listen to it in context, he is not saying he is a muslim, he is refering to people talking about his muslim faith, which he doesn't have.
quote
"Our democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who
are willing to work and give to those who would not."
Thomas Jefferson
quote
"Love your neighbor as yourself and your country more than yourself."
—Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Jefferson Smith, February 21, 1825
If you are going to quote me............ sm
please at least do it in context. "Obama is flying on the premise that he is innocent until proven guilty and the hope that his puppeteers have enough money to keep his guilt from being discovered, which they very well may have."
Our Constitution does provide for presumed innocence until gult is actually proven. That much I agree with. HOWEVER, what I was saying here in the context of my message is that Obama is betting that he has enough financial backing that will grease the palms of those who are in charge of the decision-making process, as they have done in the past to get him to this level, that he will not be found guilty. Money runs politics, Marmann, and I think you would agree with me on that. You don't see very many poor people in national politics.
Once this issue is laid to rest by the SC, then I will let it go. I may not like their decision, but I will let it go because, as the highest court in the land, their word is law and we must abide by it. It would not be the first time that I would disagree with their judgment and probably not the last, but as an American I have, at least for the time being, the right to disagree with them.
As to what other issues may arise that I would voice disagreement with and "pound him into the ground" on, that remains to be seen. I am watching several issues right now very closely, and if his decision on said issues disagrees with mine, then you can bet I will be on here screaming. If he proves me wrong about him and brings this country back from the brink of total destruction, then I will cook up a pot of crow for me and anyone else who wants to join me. If we don't have enough crow to go around, I have quite a few old hats around here that could supplement the meal. 
Quote of the Day.....
The late Dr. Adrian Rogers (1931-2005) offered the following observation several years ago and it bears poignant significance today:
"You cannot legislate the poor into freedom by legislating the rich out of freedom. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend is about the end of any nation. You cannot multiply the wealth by dividing it. "
Quote from this site. sm
“heatherb” a Soldier from OK, submitted 9-6-04:
“You cannot tell me that we are not doing the right thing when you watch little kids run, literally run from their one room mud hut a mile away from the road come running as your convoy is passing just to wave, not to beg for food or water, just to wave. Or to be a woman and invited to sit amoung the Iraqi men and share their Chai with them and listen as they share their stories of the days when their country was oppressed. To have shared such time with the people of tha t country and to have learned about their culture and that they are such a powerful proud people. And to know that I was a part of liberating that, makes me proud to have gone over there to give those kids that run up to us all those times the chance to never have tell the stories that the men sharing tea told, but listen to them as I did. We are doing the right thing regardless of the disillusion of our politicians. Be proud of what you've done. I am."
God Bless them.
quote from 1946
As true today as it was when spoken in 1946.
Why of course the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship ... voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.
Hermann Goering April 18, 1946 - Nuremberg trial Taken from "Nuremberg Diary" by G.M. Gilbert
Read quote
Rush Limbaugh quoting excerpt from article by Rick Moran:
But even a victory by 'The Laughing Goat' ( La Cabra que Ríe) couldn’t possibly gladden the hearts and warm the cockles of liberals like the prospect of celebrating…what? Well, there’s that drop in the President’s poll numbers. And then there’s…let’s see. Oh! Did I mention the drop in the President’s poll numbers? Yes, these are heady days for our left wing friends. The fact that their celebrations are taking place as a direct result of the distress, suffering, anguish and death of tens of thousands of their fellow citizens seems to not be of much concern to our morally superior betters. In fact, it has emboldened them to advance every crack pot theory on race and class that has poisoned American politics for going on forty years. One could say the left is dancing on the graves of black people, celebrating the exploitation of a political opening brought about by the incompetence of relief efforts in the largely black neighborhoods of New Orleans. Except for one thing: most of those graves are empty at the moment because the future les habitants haven’t even been plucked from the floodwaters yet.
quote above from Voltaire
I never heard that quote before. sm
Please provide a link. I would like to read the entire article.
Apparently you did not look far enough for the quote...
This is from the Washington Post, transcript of the conversation:
Vice President Cheney: Dec. 9, 2001 -- Meet the Press
RUSSERT: Let me turn to Iraq. When you were last on this program, September 16, five days after the attack on our country, I asked you whether there was any evidence that Iraq was involved in the attack and you said no. Since that time, a couple articles have appeared which I want to get you to react to. The first: "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."
And this from James Woolsey, former CIA director: "We know that at Salman Pak, on the southern edge of Baghdad, five different eyewitnesses--three Iraqi defectors and two American U.N. Inspectors--have said--and now there are aerial photographs to show it--a Boeing 707 that was used for training of hijackers, including non-Iraqi hijackers trained very secretly to take over airplanes with knives." And we have photographs. As you can see that little white speck--and there it is, the plane on the ground in Iraq used to train non-Iraqi hijackers. Do you still believe there's no evidence that Iraq was involved in September 11?
There ya go. Meet the Press only has transcripts on line back to 2003. I checked. If you look hard enough, there are other publications who published the actual transcript. Russert said it.
As to the fuselage in the desert: Charles Deulfer, former Deputy Head, U.N. Special Commission for Iraq, told NPR, "There were lots of places in Iraq where training of non-Iraqis, or things, which by our lexicon would be considered terrorism, was taking place. That's why Iraq is on the terrorist list. Having a large aircraft, a 707, in a peninsula, completely visible from the air or from satellite, with no airline runways nearby, that's not there by accident."
As to the smartalecky crack who was in the "meeting"...I posted that I heard him say it during the 9-11 commission meeting hearings and I DID. They were televised and there were certainly more than 3 people present. They asked him about the "slam dunk" comment regarding the intelligence and WMD, and he replied: "I thought it WAS a slam dunk. We ALL did." I don't know what meeting you are talking about with only three present. I am talking about what he testified to before the 9-11 commission in their hearings, which I did hear. And, frankly, I think out of the man's own mouth is a pretty reliable source.
Yes, I agree it is hard to get the real story, especially since the story tellers change their stories like other people change their underwear. Tim Russert is just one of them. Richard Armitage is another. So which time do we believe them? Which time is really the truth? No way to know.
I said the source of the reporting does not matter if the information can be substantiated. I don't discount everything I hear on a liberal station if I can substantiate it. A very simple example: If Fox News printed the sun was shining, and you looked out and the sun was shining...you could pretty well believe it, even if Fox is the one who printed it. That was my point...if it is a fact, who prints it does not matter. Who declines to print or report it though...that also indicates something.
Have a good evening, Taiga!
Your statement, and I quote....(sm)
"A half a Xanax works just as well as a full one."
NOT TRUE. A half a Xanax will take the edge off. An entire Xanax will afford you the opportunity to take a 2-hour nap.
To quote the poster above....
I have a right to be here and you have no right to tell me where I ought to be.
I understand that you have a hardened heart and nothing I can say or do will change that. Anyone who thinks abortion is a valid method of birth control and is okay with that has a hardened heart. But, your right as an American to hold any opinion you want to hold.
But it is my right as an American, and my moral right as a human being to state my opinion. And my opinion is that a developing child has as much right to life as YOU do. And I will continue the struggle. If that offends you...I'm sorry.
mcCain quote - but do we
From his book “Worth the Fighting For.”
“Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”
that was a direct quote from
Ronald Reagan. How SHAMEFUL that you make fun of a dead man and one with Alzheimer's to boot. I am appalled at your lack of manners.
What a wonderful quote!
Thank you so much for sharing this timeless quote with us today, zoesnana. It seems so fitting in light of our current economic status. President Jefferson was a very wise man!
Biden 's quote
Or, to quote JOE BIDEN:
"I think he CAN be ready, but right now I don't believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training."
I do not agree with Biden's statement. It is not clear to me what motivated Biden to say this after Obama chose him as running mate.
And Biden said this some time ago.
Excellent quote. nm
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A quote by Obama
"I choose my friends carefully. The more politically active black students. The foreign students. The Chicanos. The Marxist professors and structural feminists"
Obama's words!
Another quote by Obama
'I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.'
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