An insult is defined by how someone is affected; therefore, is personal. - sm
Posted By: lall on 2009-05-03
In Reply to: You complain about insult and then - do it yourself??!!! Wow.
btw, your continued "what are you (insert age here) or something?" comments are not insulting, but rather pitiful.
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What is happening now is affected by what happened then...
and the fact remains that the Democratic party did, as a whole, seek to keep African Americans enslaved and after the Republicans, led by Abe Lincoln, abolished slavery, the Democrats (and yes, a minority of southern Republicans), did effectively deny African Americans the right to vote for another 90 years. The 60's are also part of history...and it was then and only then that African Americans got the clear right to vote. I think that is a bit more than a "bad decision." And yes it has changed, albeit after the fight (the civil war) and after numerous attempts by Republican congresses to try to override it...finally enough Northern Democrats did cross over and the right to vote was given. Certainly things have changed. It is just incorrect to state that the Democratic party has always been of a "liberal" view. They have not. That does not mean that Democrats of today follow that same mantra (some do, but they are leftovers of the past). DW, it should be hurtful to know that this occurred. Revisionist history has caused the majority of African Americans in this country, in fact most young people of this country, not to know what happened in those days. I am sure if you polled African Americans on the street they would have no idea that the Democratic party and a minority of the Republican party as well sought to keep them oppressed for 90 years AFTER the Civil War. Most of them probably think the Republican party was responsible for the whole thing. And before the attacks start...I do not consider myself Republican. I have tendencies that go both ways, and I don't think there is a name for that...other than Independent.
Yes, Bush bashing is hurtful in my mind not because I am a big Bush fan, but I do not understand why some people get such joy in making fun of someone. It reminds me of kids in a schoolyard. I don't see why people can't discuss his policies they object to and that sort of thing, but the incessant ya-ya'ing about his intelligence, he's an embarrassment...yada yada. Yes, that is hurtful on a purely human level.
The past was brought up in response to someone talking about how conservatives were probably "afraid" of the Salt Lake City major because he was liberal and worked for civil rights, yada yada. While working for civil rights may be a liberal trait, as recently as the 60's it was not. I have been called down many a time for things that happened in the "past." We really cannot shove the past under the rug. It is part of who, and what, we are.
And I think we can all agree that thank God, we all learned from it.
my job has already been affected since this stuff started -
I am already down about $1500 a month in the last 3 months. I know what is going to happen - but I don't think I should have to keep helping bail other people out!
Is anybody helping bail me out because I cannot pay my mortgage this month? No - because I was responsible... is anybody helping me out because I can't put gas in my car this week? No, they are not. Is anybody helping me out with the power bill, the water bill - are they going to pay my cable so that it is not turned off this week? No they are not.
It is time to stop bailing these companies out and let them figure out how to straighten their messes out on their own.
We are just giving these companies more money for more of the same and I for one am tired of doing it.
You have nicely defined snooty for everyone,thanks......nm
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You have just defined the term unmitigated gall.
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Another one of several .... just here to insult
There doesn't seem to be any objectivity here. However, more important
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Posted By: Nina on 2006-03-09,
In Reply to: That's a little unfair - huh?
there seems to be no concern for what is going on in our classrooms. I am not talking about political bias, either. I am talking about WHAT THE TEACHER SAID. It's been recorded. There is no way to misinterpret it. I am AMAZED that anyone would defend it. But not surprised. Thankfully, not all liberals are so close-minded. And I AM thankful for that.
No, that would be an insult. sm
And I don't talk that way. Maybe you do. As far as slant, why do you keep coming here and saying the same thing? I go to several chat boards were both liberal and conservatives post and no one ever goes on like this.
Where's the insult?
Your response to the 3rd-party article was not intelligent. It was emotional and defensive. Statement of fact. You blow things out of proportion. Statement of fact. You take things too personally. Statement of fact. Like I said earlier, facts seem to elicit paroxysms of paranoia. Statement of fact.
I am right along with should not insult
the Smother Brothers like that.
Need new insult. Yours getting old. Look up on internet. Do better.
People watching.
Why insult my views?
I assure you my views aren't warped. They are my own personal views just as you have theirs. Your view of reality is not mine. I realize that the war on terror is going to be an ongoing war with it's inevitable ebbs and flows. I'll admit that I don't know if Bin Laden is alive or dead, but my gut feeling is that he is dead of natural causes. You are right, if we had caught Bin Laden the world would know it, although I don't know if it would be for purely political gain like you would think it would be. I'm sorry that you have to turn discussion of a topic into a personal insult towards me and my views, but I believe you hold a very polarized view of what is going on in the war on terror. I guess history will have to pan out what exactly is going on in this country, but I believe we are in a political civil war.
Not a sexist insult....
"we need our eyes on the gulf, not the skirt." Amazing. Kind of sucked the air right out of the indignant post.
That being said, I agree, we need to be thinking about those on the gulf.
And as to victimization...Sarah Palin doesn't think of herself that way, neither do I. However, the nastiness of the attacks on her only serve to make democrats look small, scared, and surly. And keeps the attention on her and not on their candidate. Not a good thing for him, really.
I dont know who are you to insult
you. I certainly do not know your husband. I did not read your post, if you are referring to one, so if you take particular posts on a board as aimed solely at you, that is not my problem, but yours.
please do not insult my intelligence
Why do people here do that? You do not know me so do know presume that I am "not familiar with workers' movements and do not keep up with the news." You do not have to accept my opinion; I do not have to accept yours. But please realize I have every right to hold that opinion and to express it. Just because i see it differently than you does not give you the right to demean my knowledge of the subject. I have lived on the side of those who were definitely hurt be unionization. My opinion comes from personal experience as well as other sources. I am outta here now.
There you go - another name calling insult
Can you try to have an adult convesation here instead of proving us right by repeatedly name calling and "trying" to ridicule those who don't agree with you.
Is an insult followed by **abound** all
You complain about insult and then
And frankly, I didn't see anything the slightest bit insulting to you personally in what he said. At worst, it was a bit sarcastic, perhaps, but sarcasm and insult are NOT the same thing.
You call that an insult?
Insult? NOT!
You have an odd definition of insult.
Michelle Obama was roundly hooted when she suggested that racism is anything that a person perceives to be racist, and here you are offering the same sort of definition. "Insult is anything someone considers to be insulting."
If you can't figure out the problems with definitions like these, I'll be happy to tell you - but I wouldn't want to insult your intelligence.
insult to all sane americans
To post something like this shows you are truly a bigoted fool. You know darn well, we of the left are not *dancing on their graves*. It is an insult that you posted this.
Do you think calling me a liberal is an insult? LOL
I dont run from the liberal label, friend, I'm proud of it!
I thought she did a FINE job overall. And I thought she was best at dodging the questions she didn't/wouldn't/couldn't answer - and repeating the MCBUSH mantra: ALL WAR ALL THE TIME.
Wrong, unfortunately you insult yourself, with every demeaning...sm
utterance, and it is YOU, my dear, who demean the rest of us.
I feel very sorry for you and your smallness.
First, I never feel "cornered". Second, what was the insult, please? NM
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This was not meant as an insult, but as a question? With Rep everything is possible
Please, do not commit plagiarism. Do not copy and paste MY comment as your own, because you find my postings so excellent and intelligent that you have to use them to make a point.
Your mere presence on this board is an insult
Why don't you have any respect for the administrator of this board?
Go crawl back under your rock on the cantservative board. You bring nothing of value to this board and you're violating the administrator's repeated requests.
This is NOT a sexist insult for the poor, victimized SP.
Unbelievable. This is NOT about SP. What does she know about a mass evacuation of 5 million people? Not only does she need to stay away from us, she needs to be taken off the TV screen long enough to broadcast announcements of mandatory evacuation areas, evacuation routes, contra-flow designations on major highway systems, announcements from local officials in the affected areas and maybe just a little coverage on how to prepare for the onslaught of a category 3/4 hurricane in a geographic area of such dense population. Evacuations when done improperly are FATAL, as Houstonians found out during the evacuation for Hurricane Rita when 110 people lost their lives out on the roads trying to run from the storm. They are phased events and need wide-scale news coverage from any and all media outlets. This is about the 5 million people who are running for their lives. The comment was about the irresponsible news coverage and the spell that people seem to be under to the exclusion of even an tacit awareness that death is just around the corner for possibly hundreds of their fellow-citizens. You can live without SP media saturation for a day or two. We need our eyes on the gulf, not on the skirt.
You're too busy trying to insult the posters
that I even copy your own words and you argue against that. One poster said he has never run for President or Vice President and you replied to that post and said "Yes he has". Brother I keep saying its like talking to a brick wall.
First of all, if most Americans insult your superior intellect
by not considering "other view points" then I would suggest you go ahead and pack up and leave.
Second of all, the only thing a person will get from AL Jazeera is extremely biased against Israel. The entire middle east hates Israel. This has been well established. They are surrounded by enemies and even have enemies within their own borders -- Hamas which is why they invaded the Gaza Strip. Are they supposed to sit by and watch the Hamas terrorists send their suicide bombers to kill their civilians? Are they supposed to simple swallow the hatred and threats against their sovereignty?
You really shouldn't insult Dickie Smothes like that - LOL!
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Republicans Insult the American People
Republicans Insult American People
by Aimee Franc
Right before Obama was elected, Republicans decided to "bailout" the banking industry. It was a socialistic move. But they didn't care because they knew Obama would be elected and that he would eventually take the fallout for it. People like those from Fox News wanted to make sure they continuously got that word "socialism" out there. Now that Obama is President (for only 3 weeks now) Obama is completely to blame for this entire economic mess. Fox news this morning just can't stop talking about it. Fox news acts like the economy is just a joke and Obama is just trying to be a fear monger. They laugh at Timothy Geithner. They laugh about the United States failing. Republicans in fact do want us to fail so that they can be reelected. Now does that sound patriotic to you? Do they really think the American people are that ignorant? Apparently some must be and I'm sure they'll be posting below.
This THING is a sham! -an insult to the country.
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No insult - just take a look at all her ranting, incoherent posts.....
A Rush Limbowel wanna-be....
Tsk tsk tsk - nasty or miserable - still is the same thing and an insult
No matter how much you want to sugar coat it, its all nasty. No need to be that way on this board.
Being called gay is an insult, plain and simple.
It's even used in popular slang as an insult, i.e. 'that's gay'. They are NOT accepted in mainstream society or they wouldn't have to be making such a stink right now trying to become accepted. It is deviant behavior, and deviant behavior should not be legal. Whatever you do behind your own closed doors is your business, but that's where it should stay.
and being called straight is an insult since - see message
The straight people are the ones who do incest, S&M, bondage, domestic violence, wife swapping, pastors/ministers molesting children, parents selling their kids for drugs, parents killing their own kids for who knows what reason, weird fetishes, and the list goes on and on and on. Gay people ARE being accepted in mainstream society. Just because you don't want to believe they aren't doesn't make it so, because they are and they are doing just fine. All they want is the right to marry whom they want to share their lives with (sound familiar?). Same rights for all human beings, and no more discrimination all because of a bunch of child molesting religious freaks with their backwoods mentality who don't want it. Gay people are not the ones with the deviant behavior. Gay people work, pay bills, watch movies, go to bed, eat the same kind of meals you do. Gay people do the same exact things "straight" people do, except they are not the wolves hiding in sheeps clothing (i.e. all the reasons listed above). At least now adays its nice to go out in public and see the same sex people showing their love for each other the same way "straight" people do. It's nice to see acceptance and tolerance for all human kind (except there are still the ignorant few). So, now with the states coming around i hope to see more gay marriage coming up. For those who don't like it, too bad. It's not your choice anymore. Gays ARE being accepted whether you like it or not.
Certified graduate of the *How to Insult like a kindergartener* school of insults. SM
Frankly, I thought it was an insult to the Monkey, and Curious George, also, he was intelligent!...n
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Don't take it so personal...sm
This is a debate. We will not always agree. It is perfectly normal for you to agree on one thing and be opposed on something else, especially talking with people on the opposite of your political spectrum.
Ward Churchill - see below
Would I care of someone judged me for posting an F-word, no because I apologized and it truly was a mistake, believe it or not. I'm sure no such apology will come from Ann to these widows.
What question is it that I didn't answer?
You are right, it is personal. sm
And it has consequences and I am not talking about physical ones.
cant we do without the personal
attacks? Hippocrite. (A hippo crossed with a hypocrite).
SOY was the one who made it personal anyway.
**This fits many on THIS board...To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.**
Maybe you missed that because you've stereotyped, judged and sentenced the liberals already.
POLITICS NOT PERSONAL
I believe you are mistaken. It is almost impossible to carry on a political discussion without getting personal. Political alignments are based on personal beliefs. And as for you trials and tribulations, she said nothing about what you've gone through in your life with the exception of, you know nothing of persecution.
stooping to personal
insults, are we now? Did you read Wally Lamb's book "She's Come Unhinged?"" A good read.
Right back at you...without the personal hit of course..
it is obvious whose value system is skewed. You resort to name calling and personal attacks...judging one's mental health...and sorry, when you let Clinton slide on perjury you lose all credibility of if Clinton had done this you would be disgusted...while that might be personally true, you would not be on this board crucifying him. And please, don't even try to say you would not.
I have never said anything personal about Obama.
I have nothing against him. He has a beautiful family. I am sure he is sincere...the point is, I don't agree with him. I think he is the wrong man for the job. I feel strongly about that. That is why I reply.
I have never attacked him personally, made jokes nasty jokes about him, and certainly not his family. Yet i see that constantly from the other side. The extent of the hatred and nastiness on this site might not bother anyone else...but as an Independent, it puts me off the Dem party...big time, and any positives are pretty much buried in tons of mud. That seems to be the way they do politics...see it in the mainstream media, on the dailykos (referred to one poster as a place where liberals go to post opinion...have you ever read anything there??)...if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
If there are any positives, please point them out to me. I would like to see them.
I suspect what the answer would be if they answered honestly. Of course they would support him. Because he is Obama. Because he is a Democrat. The rules are different for him.
There are indeed two Americas, and that is the way they want it. THeir way or the highway. Choice for them but not for anyone else. Freedom of religion as long as you never mention it. Does that sound like America to you?
we don;t need personal attacks.
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No need for personal potshots....
that actually reflect worse on you than the people you ridicule.
you have a personal vendetta against her and...
You continue to post time and time again saying sam this or sam that. We all enjoy hearing sams opinions and viewpoints. She is not the bully on this site (it seems you are). She has done nothing wrong to deserve being kicked off. Maybe the moderator ought to kick you off. How would you like it.
Moderate please do NOT kick sam off this board because others don't like what she has to say. I've never found her to be insulting towards others and from my understanding this is a board where we can all share things we have heard and our opinions. We all (well most of us) love sam and the due diligence she uses to research articles and she has never been rude to others and has done nothing to deserve being denied access. I have learned a lot from her posts.
Thank you moderator if you are reading this.
personal attacks are
not allowed on this board. Stop immediately.
personal attacks are
not allowed on this board. Stop attacking me personally with your imagining what I have or don't have in my work area. Stick to the issues.
Why the personal attacks?
This has nothing to do with this conversation. What this person makes and why they make that is none of our business. The point was that she didn't live beyond her means and doesn't want a handout and that right there makes her a heck of a lot better than a lot of people.
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