Are you sure your are not confusing arrogance with intelligence and sm
Posted By: oldtimer on 2008-09-01
In Reply to: LOL ... if you read my whole post ... - sm
confidence? Those are the qualities we need in a president aren't they?
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This is getting confusing! sm
I am not prowar, I am, as AG says, proactive. I believe we should have gone into Iraq. We have to deal with Iran. I believe the money is coming from Saudi Arabia. We need to deal with them. And then there is North Korea. By *dealing with*, I mean we must be vigilant, identify the real enemy, and plan accordingly. What exactly is worth fighting for if not our way of life. One of my favorite quotes is by John Stuart Mill, who penned his thoughts with prophetic brilliance: ‘War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things; the decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks nothing worth a war, is worse. A man who has nothing which he cares more about than he does about his personal safety is a miserable creature who has no chance at being free, unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.'
I think that's where it gets confusing
There was an article in the Des Moines Register today that a busload of people came up from Missouri to get married here in Iowa, where it is now legal, knowing that when they went back to Missouri, the marriage was null and void. What makes the situation somewhat atypical in this case is that if I recall correctly, Missouri has a constitutional amendment defining marriage as 1 woman/1 man. Historically states have recognized the marital status between each other (which is why we don't have to get remarried each time we move!), so whether an Iowa marriage license among same-sex couples would be valid in a state that does not have a constitutional amendment specifically banning those unions is not clear.
You are correct - confusing
This whole war thing has gone on so long it is confusing. I'm not purposely trying to put wrong facts up there. I read it from a newspaper and also I've been hearing it on TV all day. All I remember throughout the campaign was him saying he'd bring the troops home. To me its all the same thing. I don't ever remember him separating the two regions, but like you say it is on youtube and I can research for myself which I will. But I about fell off my chair when I heard he's sending more troops and I never heard him talk about sending troops during his campaign. Like I said, and I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong. I just honestly don't remember it like this.
I will, however, not admit that I put up deceiving posts. I stated a fact. Obama is sending more troops to Afghanistan, 17,000 according to the news source I read. I did not make that figure up.
Question for you though. Where are those troops going to come from. If you tell me that Obama is going to re-route them from Iraq to the Afghanistan, then I would have to say that is what I would consider a lie/deceit (my opinion - and don't shoot me for having opinions). He had many of us fooled into believing the troops would be coming home. My best friend told me her son (in Afgan. would be coming home as would her husband in Iraq). But if he doesn't re-route them and sending fresh soldier's over, then no it's no a lie on his part (IMO).
I also wouldn't be so quick to judge people for their beliefs. If I'm wrong I'll say I'm wrong but one other poster wrote "selective hearing". (I voted for the guy in the primaries, I believed in him back then). I don't know about anyone else out there but it can be real confusing. Just like the stimulus bill, etc, etc. I will however do some research and watch some more youtube when I get a chance.
Do you need new eyeglasses? You are confusing me with somebody. I never said that....nm
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Wow...that is sort of confusing.
I guess if I were gay and had a partner, I'd just swap rings on my own and throw a party. The love two people have between each other means more than a legal piece of paper, IMO. I wouldn't travel to another state to get married just to go back home and it not mean anything legally. As often as people get divorced, you gotta wonder if straight people really get marriage.
Such Arrogance!
Smug, self-righteous, condescending, misogynist.....
3 buhzillion? Hardly - more like the THREE people who respond to you.
Just ignore Tech Support, transc, - most of us do.
No, I am not confusing the body with an 844-ft mountain top...
What I am referring to are the many cases where schools will have rules that ban crosses or any form of Christian expression, but allow Muslims/Sikhs to wear headscarves. The ACLU by and large will not take those cases even if asked. If situation reversed, they will sue on behalf of Muslims/sikhs without being asked.
Again...the first ammendment guarantees freedom of religion and the free expression thereof. The last 4 words mean as much as the first words.
The first ammendment prohibits the establishment of a state religion...like the church of England that required everyone to follow that religion. There is nothing in the constitution that uses the words separation of church and state. The founding fathers did not seperate Christianity from the government...it is interwoven in the founding documents, on our currency, on the walls of Congress. It is part of the American heritage. From the drive to come here for religious freedom came the drive to set out the other individual freedoms.
As I said, if people find sharing the gospel annoying a simple I am not interested works with most Christians. There is always a radical fringe associated with any religion...some more than others. There is a radical political fringe.
All I am saying is that Christians are discriminated against in this country. And the same people who will rise up and decry discrimination against Muslims, et al, will not rise up and decry the same discrimination against Christians. I would think civil liberties apply to ALL of us....
I said nothing about putting a cross on public ground...don't know why you went off on that tangent. :)
Maybe she's confusing Obama's parties with.(sm)
the parties held at the Department of Interior under Bush....LOL.
You are confusing tyranny with losing
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=223862&title=Baracknophobia---Obey
The arrogance is mindboggling
 that's all I have to say...
With Obama's ego and arrogance, there is no way
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your arrogance is disgusting
you have no idea where this poster is now. She and her hubby have worked hard for years. Maybe where they are now is: own home, no debt, able to live comfortably without needing to rely on anyone but themselves. Maybe they raised a family. And furthermore, being a "typist" as you say is making an honest living. you have a problem with that? At least they are not waiting for someone else to take care of them. Where they are now is people who can be proud of their lives and what they have done. Too bad you are too small minded to see that.
the arrogance tour
So...you'd like the president to walk, I guess, to Canada? Is he allowed to wear shoes, or does he have to take those off too? (CEOs of car companies have shoes too, I should point out.)
Astounding arrogance?
I would rather be astoundly arrogant rather than stunningly ignorant any day...
You have the gall to spout your bile accusing someone of being treasonous - you should have been so vocal when Bush and Cheney were tearing the Constitution into shreds and sent this country straight to he!!
All the more reason to learn from his arrogance
I mean, REALLY !?! Arrogance doesn't even begin
It borders on psychopathic.
Poise? You mean like O's arrogance, cockiness,
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The arrogance is astounding as well. Do you have neck problems
from supporting your gigantic head? Are your arms sore from patting your own back?
Obama is anti-America. He is not a patriot. And he is going to run this country into the ground. To me, that is treason! Those who voted for him, defend him, and worship him are treasonous and blasphemous.
You had the right to vote for whomever you please and I have the right to call you out for your lack of morality and patriotism.
Your arrogance just wreaks radical leftwing politics
It wreaks so much it stinks.
I don't know about intelligence...sm
but I do feel that it will be the people in Washington in power are the ones that will benefit the most from an Obama White House, and a democratic majority in Congress. They want power and control over this country and its people. Truly frightening, in my opinion.
While the lower income bracket may benefit in some ways, truly, the majority of American people and their way of life, will not, and will be changed forever.
It will take at least a generation to recover from this. I fear the most for our children and grandchildren. They will have a hard time attaining what was once the American dream.
How much INTELLIGENCE does it take to
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Thanks, anyway. But with intelligence, you can
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So much for your pre-speech intelligence
He did talk about the war.... Hey, wait a minute, your intelligence was bad....You lied to us!!! You twisted the information to fit your post...Don't you want to apologize and tell us all what a terrible mistake you made!!!!  How does it feel to be called a liar without justification?
I am not underestimating the intelligence....
I do not doubt the intelligence. But there are a fair number of people who either don't care what the man is about or refuse to see it. I think bankrupting coal plants is a critical issue. I think being accepting of skyrocketing power bills for US to make a point is a critical issue. I think redistribution of wealth is a critical issue.
Bottom line tho..if he is elected, and if he does what he promises...be very careful what you ask for. Ask Venezuela and Cuba what a failed socialist state looks like.
please do not insult my intelligence
Why do people here do that? You do not know me so do know presume that I am "not familiar with workers' movements and do not keep up with the news." You do not have to accept my opinion; I do not have to accept yours. But please realize I have every right to hold that opinion and to express it. Just because i see it differently than you does not give you the right to demean my knowledge of the subject. I have lived on the side of those who were definitely hurt be unionization. My opinion comes from personal experience as well as other sources. I am outta here now.
Intelligence offends you? First of all,
he beat the Clinton machine at their own game, and you should be way happy about that, at least Hilary is not Prez. Secondly, he is a black man who has been elected by the American people as President of the United States. Forgive me, but a dumb black man could never have accomplished that. You should be thanking God that we finally have a man in office who is intelligent, who may be able to help you and the rest of the middle class get a leg up. And a plus, he can make intelligent conversation with speaking in sentences, unlike W. Give the man a chance, he hasn't even been sworn in. No one bad-mouthed W until he royally screwed the American people.
Intelligence Committee?
A congressional delegation made what was supposed to be a top secret trip to Iraq this week. A few media outlets, including Congressional Quarterly, learned about it but agreed not to disclose anything until the delegation had left Iraq.
So what did Rep. Peter Hoekstra, R-Michigan do? By the way, Hoekstra is a former chairman of the Intelligence Committee and is still a ranking member. Hoekstra BLOGGED about the trip on his Twitter page and included details about their itinerary in updates posted every few hours.
In a related note, a recent debate between candidates for Republican National Committee chair featured an argument over who had more friends on Facebook. It's good to see the Republican party is embracing new technology.
Any person with intelligence would
see that this is a facetious post. No one really wants this to happen. This was just trying to prove a point and obviously the dems have twisted it around to be treason. I can't help but laugh at the idiocy on this board. It is so much better to call people names and cry about the last 8 years than to take a good look at what is going on in the world now. No worries though. When Obama runs this country into the ground, you will still blame Bush and live in your happy little demented bubble drinking kool-aid.
Wake up people. Bush is out of office. It is Obama's turn now. So let's pay attention to what he is doing....shall we?
Intelligence bores you?
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I wonder what is the average IQ intelligence of Americans
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One would have to have a certain level of intelligence to be bored. sm
You are the weakest link. Buh-bye now. 
Intelligence offends you? Just an observation.
Oh oh, another big word....
Intentional Intelligence is my game!
I am way too smart to let your feeble attempts at right-wing propaganda affect the decisions I make regarding this election. I consider the source and do not give you a second thought! I have seen you repeat your talking points over and over and over again, hoping that if you repeat them often enough people will somehow believe that they are true. Well you don't fool me! You will have to find some of your Joe six-pack buddies and try to sell your line of crap to them. I am with the elite group!
Oh my...another Obama fan proves their intelligence
or lack thereof. How sad.
Bush ignored the intelligence reports.
The attack most likely had been planned for a long time, but Bush and his cronies ignored all of the intelligence reports they received that indicated that a huge attack using airplanes was imminent. If he wants credit for keeping us safe since 9/11, he has to take credit for not keeping us safe on 9/11!
I always thought you had more intelligence than most of the left.
Palin has more intelligence than you would ever give
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Typical right-wing intelligence.
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How pathetic. I am not scared by intelligence.
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Wow, the intelligence in this message is astounding
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OK, they agreed. Doesn't mean the intelligence was correct, and it obviously
wasn't, hence, no WMDs, no connection to Al Quaeda. Just getting rid of a brutal dictator - hey, I can live with that. So, does that mean we are now the world police?
Clinton has never, I mean never as far as I can recall or read made a connection to Al Quada and Iraq as was done by this admin. Our reasons for attacking Iraq under the Clinton admin. was in response to Saddam not complying with UN sanctions. Two different things.
The links to Al Quada that are operating in Iraq today are there in oposition to the US preemptive military action in Iraq. They simply were not there before this war began. Our president knew there was no connection before we went to war.
I remember when *intelligence* actually meant knowledge...sm
No I don't want to sit around and wait to be killed along with my loved ones or anyone else's, but when my day and time comes there's nothing anyone can say or do to stop it. What I don't agree with is the preemptive war in Iraq..period. And you are sadly mistaken, IF Saddam had ordered an attack or enabled an attack like 9-11 to be carried out in America I would be the first to stand up and say let's go get him. But, then Bush probably would go after Kim Jong-il, go figure.
Al Quaeda attacked America, yet we have spent the majority of our time and energy in Iraq fighting insurgents in that country and IMHO made more enemies for ourselves.
What a stupid comparison. Anyone with minimal intelligence...sm
could not say they think SP would make a competent president. Get a grip!
Actually, I do have "at least" minimal intelligence, and I think she's just as qualified as
It's not like she was plucked out of the PTA without doing anything else. I can't see that Obama has done anything more than she has besides vote present and campaign.
People should have to pass an intelligence test
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Typical pub. Underestimates the intelligence of US voters.
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Underestimating the intelligence of the American voter
It's what makes them think replacing critical issues debate with smears, scare tactics and politics of division can win an election.
Israeli intelligence is far superior to our own...at this point
This man knows these things because he has been involved in Israel's intelligence community since the late 60s early 70s and is currently a consultant to the US.
Did you know that our fed gov is currently hiring like gangbusters? They are striving to improve our security as a nation. Surprise! We actually have a president who is trying to improve things! We will get attacked under Obama's watch - you can pretty much count on it. But, I suspect he will not ignore intelligence warnings beforehand - like Bush did.
Protect us???? He did not listen to all the Intelligence Reports....sm
that a large-scale attack was imminent, his Daddy lit the flame by going over to Iraq the first time to secure Daddy Bush's and his friend's oil interests there, they did not care a FIG about the poor Kuwaitis! We are more hated as a nation now, because of the Bush policies, than we have EVER been in history, and instead if his getting Bin Ladin, as he vowed, he helped the Bin Ladin family living in LA to escape the country becaue of the wrath of the people. Speaking of Kool-Aid? Blind pubs must have bought the factory and have been living on the stuff the past 8 years, unbelievable!
McCain supporters intelligence sinks to an all time low. nm
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