Congratulations, you have obviously raised your daughter right.
Posted By: me on 2008-10-29
In Reply to: From a 13-year-old girl - CB
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Well, then, congratulations to you, too!
congratulations...
Thank you, Lurker. I do believe you are sincere in your congratulations and I do appreciate it. It was a moving ceremony and a very humble and very deserving man received a great honor.
In case you did not find it, the Order of the Marchusee is named after the force that George Washington brought up during the Revolution...the forerunner of today's military police.
The point I was trying to make in this is that my sense of patriotism, and his sense of duty and honor have nothing to do with politics. I love my country no matter who is in charge; he loves his country no matter who is in charge, and he went where he was sent by his country, no matter what the party of the President at the time. That being said, it is good to know that we can find common ground even in disagreement. I see that as the best of this country, and it gives me great hope.
And thank you, we did have a good celebration.
God bless you, Lurker. And I really mean that as well.
Congratulations!!!!
Another convert to common sense!!! Let our voices be heard. I don't actually REALLY believe at this point a write-in has a snowball's chance to elect an alternative but at least we can say we TRIED and didn't just stick with the same old business as usual, which we will get from either of these candidates. And then there's the matter of Congress. Mine aren't up for election this year but you can bet they will hear my displeasure in their next election and I'll campaign against BOTH of them......1 Democrat, 1 Republican.
Congratulations
Not my choice either, but I will respect and honor my president regardless.
Congratulations
to Senator Obama on his historic accomplishment. He has spent millions to instill a sense of hope in Americans. I do express my sympathy to Mr. Obama that his grandmother did not live to see this day. I'm sure she would have been very proud.
I cannot deny that I am not happy about this at all though. In fact, I feel physically sick. I feel that we made the wrong choice. Only time will tell whether I am right or not, but I cannot shake the feeling that we are in for some extremely tough times. I still do not trust him and I do not believe that his plans for our country are good ones. However, he is our next president and there is nothing I can do about that.
I hope and pray that I am wrong in my assessment of Mr. Obama, but if I am not, God help us all!
congratulations to both of you. Behind every great man...
you know the rest. It is definitely not too much information. I think it is good to something about each other, other than our political ideologies. It allows us to see someone whose political opinion is diametrically opposed to ours, yet still see the goodness in that person, that a difference of opinion, even some really enormous differences of opinion do not have to make us enemies. I would consider what you told us as promoting tolerance which, as you know, in my mind, is a wonderful thing.
I have never even heard of the Medal your husband received. It sounds very very old and very very regal, as if it originated with kings and queens. I am going to look it up on the web. I bet it is beautiful.
Again congratulations. I hope you have a wonderful celebration and I really mean that.
Congratulations to Senator Obama.
My heartiest congratulations to Senator Obama and to Senator Clinton for her campaign, and for quickly meeting with him this evening to discuss unifying the party.
I believe that the torch has been passed to the next generation of American citizens, with their high hopes and wonderful ideas for the future of this country, a future that includes all races and genders, and the potential of a better future for all of us.
Again my congratulations to Senator Obama!
WE WON! Congratulations to ALL Democrats! Go. Obama! nm
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First, congratulations to Obama for his historic win....
and that in and of itself is a wonderful thing.
That being said...I still have concern for the country. Obama may be POTUS; he may be John McCain's President, but he is not my President yet. I don't trust him. He has to earn that trust. Only time will tell how far to the left he will lead this country. Only time will tell how far into socialism he will take us. Thank God I think we retained enough senators on the Republican side to keep them somewhat in check, if they are willing to do so.
I will not be trying to drag his presidency down. I will check in from time to time as we see how his Presidency unfolds. Is he going to govern like his books (very liberal), like his past (very liberal, Marxist socialist), or is he going to govern more from the middle, like he has run his campaign. Who knwos? How can we know? He changed his story depending on who he was talking to (i.e., in Pennsylvania and in San Francisco). Now that the campaign is over, will the real Barack Obama please step forward?
When he does...that will determine whether or not he is "my" President.
All that being said...I sincerely hope he governs more like the guy who talked in Pennsylvania vs the guy that talked in San Francisco. I mourn the millions of babies who will die during his tenure. I wish he was as concerned about them as he is about "living" Americans.
In closing...congratulations to the Obama supporters on this board. I hope you hold his feet to the fire...I certainly intend to.
~sam
Congratulations President Obama!
Congratulations President Obama! "Tonight we mark the end of one historic journey with the beginning of another – a journey that will bring a new and better day to America." I am so happy I lived long enough to be a part of history in the making. 
Congratulations! Your nonsupport of the war effort is working! sm
You must be so proud. What the left has realized finally come to fruition. Why exactly do you think the Taliban and all the other islamic terrorists feel emboldened? Got a clue?
my daughter is getting
her Master degree in business. She has a beautiful little 4-year-old son born in wedlock. I a progressive politically. Boggles the mind doesn't it.
I would say that if my daughter...(sm)
did a study group at home but couldn't accommodate parking without bothering her neighbors, then she needs to get her behind out and go to a library or something.
I'm not saying that it's the neighbor's fault. At this point what all of us know about this case is speculation, and that amounts to squat. So at this point we don't know if they just had mean neighbors, or if the couple was in a war with the neighbors, or if it was or wasn't a hit against christianity, or about 100 other things that could have played into it. That is the point of my post....to point out that this could be the result of a lot of things, not necessarily just to get at christians. I think way too much has been assumed in this thread about the situation.
I have a soon to be 9-year-old daughter and
pregnancy and the allowance of it most certainly does concern me especially when McCain is in his 70s and not in the best of health already. Yes, I was raised with family values and yes this absolutely does concern not only me but my husband as well. Yes, this is a big focus right now on Governor Palin and her family values. I'm only one voice, but one voice that is concerned about this teenage girl and it being "allowed" and "accepted." This goes against any core family values I've learned my entire life. Does this mean it's okay for her daughter? Does this mean that this candidate will just "ignore" issues if she had to step in as President blaming us the country and not herself for her own misjudgements or her own "oversites?"
God bless your daughter..
for having the bravery and the courage to serve and protect us! May God keep her safe and protected and return her safely home!
You mean like his mom and grandmother who raised him?
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My daughter had to take out loans
and work to save money for school. No Pell Grant for her because we make too much money. I guess my money went toward your schooling. Why didn't you just take out loans instead of being handed money from government?
This is the question being raised? Where would
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If his daughter is allergic, they may have to get
hypoallergenic trait in poodles and some other breeds is dominant and carries over to the cross-bred offspring.
I think a big, Standard Poodle would be a great First Dog! They are so much fun, yet calmer than the small dogs, and not yippy. Easily trainable, too.
But it would be cool if they could get a shelter dog. Talk about good fortune for some poor, down-and-out dog... to go from the Pound to the President's dog!
My 14-year-old daughter.
The girls were together one night at a friend's house. They heard it through school that Obama family do not believe in Christmas gifts to the girls nor do they believe in giving Birthday gifts. There are also questions if Obama family believe in Thanksgiving.
Looked on line (Google) and cannot get a straight answer, just that muslims do not believe in this either. Do not know that to think and so I asked.
So what? And to not let your daughter listen to
How bigoted is that? Children should be taught tolerance, not HATRED.
Hmm, and just how would you treat your daughter
if she said she was gay?
Recruitment is low because they RAISED their quota. And, they
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I'd appreciate it if you would leave my daughter out of your agenda.
I mentioned nothing of her political opinions or what she "thinks." I merely said I baby-sit for her occasionally and use her computer. for you to try to drag her into your accusations is typical of what I have seen happen on the other board. It's inflammatory and untrue, but it's how you people seem to create your "facts." I can assure you that my daughter has her own political opinions, and she and I don't always agree, unlike you, but we at least respect each other's right to their opinion and often have respectable, interesting, informative debates with each other. She was taught respect and learned it very well. You can't hold a candle to the intelligent, respectful young lady that she is, so don't even try because you're way out of your league. As far as going back to the conservative board, thanks, but no thanks. I've already explained my reasons for not going back there any more. People are much more respectful of differing opinions on this board.
My post to gt was simply to tell her that I understand what it's like to be accused of all sorts of things simply because you post on a board. It happened to me on the conservative board on my first (and last) visit there, which is why I won't return.
Do I think some of the things gt said were over the top? I sure do. Do I understand why she said them? My guess is that she was trying to communicate with you in the only way you seem to understand, since civil attempts don't seem to work with some of you people. I think I can "understand" her motives, just like some of you "understand" why Eric Rudolph murdered innocent people. And between the two, I'd much rather try to "understand" gt than "Eric" (as he appears to be affectionately referred to elsewhere on this board).
from his teens on he was raised by maternal
I just read he was raised by his maternal white grandparents from his teen years to adulthood and all thru college....
But that's not what I meant.....I meant when he is campaigning (I should have made that more clear in the last post) - in every state - I see a predominance of white people. I do not believe white people are a majority today and if so many like/love Obama, how come from state-to-state I MAINLY see whites? Again, this is strictly a curious question and not the least bit racist intended........I'm white....
I know black people who are voting for him, personally and famous, voting for him - but on TV and in the campaign only state-to-state, I only see whites...
My daughter has shunted hydrocephalus
When she was 5 years old, she had totally unexpected abrupt failure when were out of town, and required a Medflight back home and immediate surgery with her neurosurgeon. I can't imagine if we had to wait for an MRI or CT scan with her. Universal health care scares me to death.
She has raised most all her kids while in some form...
of public service. I think she is fully capable of raising this one. I see no evidence to the contrary.
Come on now...are you saying that if the Obamas had a down's child and he was elected that Michelle should just stay in the white house and raise him and not do what the first ladies normally do? They travel, they give speeches, yada yada.
Palin's husband will be of help. It's not like she is going to be in DC, just she and Trig with no help whatsoever.
Yes, he is a down's baby, but he is perfectly healthy in every other way.
Good luck with your daughter! sm
I have kids are older than yours and while there has not been a pregnancy, there have been other issues we have worked through that floored me and shocked me, but we got through them.
I have several friends whom are excellent parents, involved, church going, teach values ...could not ask for more.
guess what???
Their kids drink, try drugs, have sex and yes, indeed, some have gotten pregnant. I am not saying ALL teenagers do, because that is not true, BUT many, many do.
IMHO, embracing it and loving your child when something like this happens is called unconditional love. It does NOT mean that you condone it or approve. But what is done, is done.
p.s. (joke)
just how do her parents "allow it?"
Question about McCain's daughter
What is really necessary for her to look up on the internet whether or not she was adopted??? Maybe looking in the mirror may have given her a clue! And I thought Chelsea Clinton was hard on the eyes. At least Chelsea is educated and a good speaker. McCain's daughter looks challenged - and I don't be sport's challenged!! How about Cindy's hair color - ain't that pretty?
Well, so far the Dems have raised as issues...
Sarah palin's pregnant daughter and her pastor. Anyone who talked about obama's pastor got sliced and diced. Talk about gutter politics. And glaring double standard.
Whatever Palin is, she is NOT a Marxist/socialist, and it is patently obvious the change Obama wants...as David ALinsky stands by and cheers.
In reply to the concerns you raised.
My first reaction when reading your post was one of curiosity. I was an IC during the latter Clinton years and I do not recall paying 40% of my earnings to tax. What I remember was an aggregate tax payment composed of income tax, social security tax and self-employment tax, which essentially represented a burden I shouldered as an IC that compensated for the lack of employer contribution to SS, Medicare and FICA. To my knowledge, this tax structure has not changed since then for ICs. I also remember paying my taxes quarterly, and being responsible for calculating enough tax not only to cover my required amounts, but also to pay in extra each time if I wanted to generate a return at the end of the year. I made a decision NOT to be an independent contractor because I was a single parent with a mortgage. The self-employment levy felt like double tax to me as compared to what I had been accustomed to as an employee and, most definitely the total percentage of tax burden as an IC was greater than that of a full employee status.
On checking my returns from those years (which I still keep in the house) I find the total tax burden I had for all the components of my tax liability amounted to 27%. I am wondering if you did not get a return back then because you did not contribute more than the minimum rate during the course of the year and that later on, your contributions did allow you to have a return. Also, to account for the lower rate during Bush years, did your family situation change between Clinton years and Bush years, did you get married, have children, add an earned income tax credit deduction, add dependents, start itemizing your taxes. All these changes would account for a lower percentage rate of your tax liability, thus allowing for a return.
I am also wondering why you would look back instead of forward when assessing the issue of whether or not you will be "taxed more." Have you read Obama's tax plan? If not, please go to this link and take a look. http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/#tax-relief
Essentially this is what you will find (please excuse the format challenges of cut and paste).
Provide Middle Class Americans Tax Relief
Obama will cut income taxes by $1,000 for working families to offset the payroll tax they pay.
• Provide a Tax Cut for Working Families: Obama will restore fairness to the tax code and provide 150 million workers the tax relief they need. Obama will create a new "Making Work Pay" tax credit of up to $500 per person, or $1,000 per working family. The "Making Work Pay" tax credit will completely eliminate income taxes for 10 million Americans.
• Eliminate Income Taxes for Seniors Making Less than $50,000: Barack Obama will eliminate all income taxation of seniors making less than $50,000 per year. This proposal will eliminate income taxes for 7 million seniors and provide these seniors with an average savings of $1,400 each year. Under the Obama plan, 27 million American seniors will also not need to file an income tax return.
• Simplify Tax Filings for Middle Class Americans: Obama will dramatically simplify tax filings so that millions of Americans will be able to do their taxes in less than five minutes. Obama will ensure that the IRS uses the information it already gets from banks and employers to give taxpayers the option of pre-filled tax forms to verify, sign and return. Experts estimate that the Obama proposal will save Americans up to 200 million total hours of work and aggravation and up to $2 billion in tax preparer fees.
It also might be worthwhile to check out the plan on the economy here
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/economy/
Scroll down to At a Glance and browse the links of interest to you.
Here's the link for healthcare
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/healthcare/
Again, scroll down to At a Glance and select links of interest.
I have provided Obama website links because you expressed doubts about democratic policy. McCain's website also should have similar information available on these issues as well for your comparison. After reviewing the information (if you were not already familiar with it), ask yourself where the information is coming from that is making you fearful that your taxes will be raised. I would really be interested in any response you may feel inclined to post in this regard. On a personal note, I will not be trusting McCain with the economy or with handling my HARD EARNED tax money. I do NOT want one more single penny to be used to fund the war, bankroll Israel's apartheid and nuclear weapons arsenal, prop up our struggling corporations or trickle up into the pockets of the richest among us in the form of continued Bush tax cuts to the rich, which McCain has openly stated he will continue if elected.
So what? I know people that were raised as practicing -
witches. Doesn't mean they're all gonna drop a house on someone.
Lets her daughter get pregnant ????
I don't know ANY mother who would get up one day and say, "Gee, I would love to LET my daughter get pregnant". What do you think she should do, handcuff herself to her daughter and follow her around all day and night? Give me a break!!! There are mothers who are home all day with their daughters and they get pregnant. Who you wanna blame now!!!!
Her daughter getting pregnant does not imply sexual abuse at all....I see two hormone driven teenagers. Lets not get so carried away that just because a teenage girl gets pregnant you jump on that stupid bandwagon of believing she was abuse. I feel pretty confident in saying she was probably a willing participant....now they both have to deal with the consequences just like others from the beginning of time......
He was raised by his "white" grandmother.
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Would love to be a fly on the wall if your daughter
got knocked up despite being "taught not to get pregnant". Especially if that mistake were to end up tying her for 18 years of her life to some loser guy, and all the problems that can bring.
So what exactly do you think will happen if the earth's population continues to grow at the rate it's been for the past 50-100 years? What kind of world does that leave your grandchildren? It's too crowded now - how horrible will it be when the earth's population doubles, then triples? Standing-room-only?
Born and raised in Chatta
Left there years ago but still visit some, went to high school there, Red Bank. I still get the News Free Press on line to make sure everything on the up and up there.
Can't have your cake and eat it too, don't you want your husband, son, daughter...sm
etc. to be paid what they are worth, to be paid enough they can save up and buy a home AND make the mortgage and insurance payments? Afford to feed their family without food stamps? We area a family of five, homeowners, trying to help our eldest with student loans to become a teacher, live VERY modestly, work overtime whenever we can, drive well-used cars that we OWN, and some weeks we have to put off buying medication or shampoo because we spent the family budget until the next paycheck. More working people, able to be consumers paying taxes, is one of the long-term fixes to any economy, we are not all George Bush's Halliburton and corportate/oil buddies, Japan made its working force world class by implementing higher wages, providing better benefits to workers, etc. America is way behind the times, and that is why we are in a boatload of trouble.
Her daughter is not in politics - take it to the gab board
Gloating about the sadness that some kids are going through belongs on the gab board. Her daughter and daughters bf never ran for a political position. It's bad enough to see the Palin bashing continue past the election (get over it), but to gloat about someone's misery is shameful, especially when they are not in politics. The OP was obviously gloating and it's disgusting to know there are people so spiteful that they can't let it go with Palin, they have to drag her kids (soon to continue to her family soon) into the bashing too and express their happiness about the awful circumstances her kids are going through - real nice!!! Take the gossip to the gab board.
And if you look below you'll see many posts by me. I'm not a coward to use my moniker I've always been using.
My children have always been raised with boundries . . . s/m
and consequences, and that's why they are exceptionally ethical, compassionate young adults, straight-A students, and, in general, wonderful human beings well on their way to being productive, responsible grown adults. I am their parent first, always. I have instilled them with the information and tools to make wise decisions, and this seems to be working well for me and them.
The father of the Marine daughter also said the same thing. sm
I guess they are all just misguided and brainwashed. In fact, a lot of the military is saying this. But it doesn't shut people up, does it. Didn't in Vietnam either. Well, freedom of speech works both ways. But the left never seems to get that either.
Well my son is being raised in an all white family (stepdad)
I don't know how Obama was raised but maybe it has something to do with it.
and he was raised by his radical islamic stepfather
Be very aware..........
and if his wife is a member of the CFR - trust me, he's involved too.....
New World Order - New American Century - Skull and Bones - read up on it.........
You're confused - she was raised in Idaho
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Maybe Palin didn't know yet that her daughter was pregnant when
That is a possibility. The daughter might have tried to hide it until she started showing. I don't know the circumstances around Palin and don't pretend to know, but I knew of girls in high school with me who hid it from their parents well into their 5th or 6th month. Not until they started showing did they tell.
I was raised by very conservative, strict parents. - sm
But once you get beyond high school, and into college or out into the working world, you meet so many different kinds of people. I'd be lying if I said I got along with all of them (or even maybe most of them?) But in my own experience, beginning back when I met the first gay person I ever knew (he had his own horse, and he let me ride it all the time), my personal friendships have been good ones. I wouldn't trade any of them for anything, and feel sad when I think they sometimes have to live certain aspects of their lives as ƈnd-class' citizens. Especially when each and every one contributes so much to society, and to life in general. So I really have no idea, as well.
I am not afraid of a black man raised by whites. sm
Flame away, but.....What I AM afraid of is people who cannot see the forest for the trees, those who are so bamboozled by his smoke and mirrors and snake oil, how this "black man raised by whites" is going to pay for all the pie-in-the sky promises he is making. We all know socialized medicine does not work. Look at all the Canadians coming here for their medical procedures etc. How much money can he take from the "have's" to give to the "have not's?" So if I make over $250K, then I have to give money to somebody who doesn't work and will never work? And don't even get me started on his stand on the abortion issue. Conversely, McCain does not have all the answers either. I don't know who would or who does, but I do know this: It is not Obama.
Please address the 4 key points raised in terms of
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Hubert Hoover raised taxes
during an economic recession and that lead to The Great Depression. Obama is the one wanting to raise taxes here. He wants to raise taxes on companies who are already hurting right now because of the financial crisis. This will lead to less jobs and more companies closing and going out of the country. FDR introduced several new deals which were government assistant programs that were supposed to help people during the great depression and those new deals have actually been proven to lengthen the duration of the great depression.....not help it. Obama wants to introduce new government assisted programs. To me....Obama will be the absolutely worst thing for this economy.
As for Sarah Palin....at least she has run something which is more than I can say for Obama. He may have been a community organizer but the buildings in his region that were for low-income families, like the ones owned by Rezko, were often without heat and were horrible living conditions. Sarah Palin has run a state where she is very popular. She has cut spending in her state. She has no problem standing up to her own party. These are very admirable things. Yes, Obama has been on the senate but he hasn't been on there very long. His experience of running things and making executive decisions is seriously lacking. Instead of cutting back government spending, he wants to raise our taxes. Gee....that sounds like change, huh. A man looking out for us little people.....whatever. Obama has never once stood up against his own party. His own running mate said he didn't have the experience. The amount of pork Obama has spent government money on is just outrageous. The key to this whole thing is to get government under control and stop the spending.....not let government get bigger and control more of OUR money.
Maybe they'll get their dog when Sarah Palin's daughter
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oops typo, *Not Without My Daughter* (Sally Field).....
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Did Palin's daughter actually give birth to the child?
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/8/30/121350/137/486/580223
 
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