Correction -- *College* (nm)
Posted By: American Woman on 2005-12-18
In Reply to: If your kid's in colleged, the feds might visit you. - American Woman
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When I was in college
I was very liberal - led rallies for Dukakis, made phone calls, passed out bumper stickers, etc. My dad, who is very conservative, called me out on my liberal views one day with this story.
"A girl with very liberal political views came home from college to visit her parents, who were very conservative. She started to discuss politics with her father, even though they always disagreed. Her dad, deciding to change the subject, asked her how she was doing in school. She replied that she was doing great and carrying a 4.0 gpa, but she didn't have much time to socialize because she was studying so much. The dad then asked how her friend from high school was doing. The daughter replied that her friend wasn't doing very well - she went to parties all the time, never studied and hardly ever went to class. She was carrying a 3.5 gpa. The dad said that maybe she could go to the Dean of the college and ask him to give her friend 0.5 points of her gpa - that way, they would both have a 3.5 gpa and they would be equal. The daughter was very upset by this suggestion, as she had worked very hard and given up a lot in order to have such good grades and that it would not be fair for her to give her friend her points when she had done nothing to earn them. Her father just smiled and said "Welcome to the Republican party."
Electoral College........
If you really knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't even have kicked your point down by saying anything about the electoral collge. The electoral college really is illegal and unconstitutional and there is no place for it in this country. It is mainly far left liberals who only look at for themselvs and could care less about the country as a whole. What a joke!!
the electoral college
I don't really know what people would want but I do know that the final decision on presidency rests with the electoral college, which vote will not take place until december 15th. The whole issue is designed to influence the votes of the electors so all remains to be seen after the SC today and the electoral vote on 12/15.
Getting rid of the electorial college....sm
or at least rewriting it is one of Obama's plans for his presidency. Perhaps his brilliant idea to beef up the registered voters in electorial-rich states will be his research market study to sell the idea to Congress and to the American people.
I don't think the electorial college is the ideal method of determining presidency as it stands now, but I am not sure what the answer needs to be. Popular vote would probably net the same results, a few more densly populous states determining the outcome of the presidency, but it does seem more representative of what the people want than some calculated system such as the electorial college.
Electoral college.... sm
What do you think will happen on December 15 when the electoral college convenes?
Do you think that Obama has succeeded in changing the color of the electoral college permanently or at least for this election? Do you think the electors will stand by their votes or do you think some who changed over might revert back?
electoral college?
Honestly, this 'electoral college' always confuses me and I believe I am not alone in this.
Could you be so kind and explain?
Always open to learn something.
Thanks
Youths in College
"Youths in college" are busy trying to figure out how they're gonna pay for their textbooks and keep their grades high enough to stay in school next semester. And get drunk on Saturday night. What "youths" do YOU know who are Young Democratic Socialists, for crying out loud?
And yes, I do like to argue.
Are you asking if college students...(sm)
should be allowed to vote or if democratic socialists should be allowed to vote?
Went all the way, school, college degree
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college educated voter in the
suburb up the road says farmer is an ignorant redneck who does not check facts.
Then maybe that college educated voter......... sm
might like to test that theory by working a season or two in the redneck farmer's fields.
I live in an area where there are a lot of immigrant workers. The truth of the matter is that farmers really cannot afford to pay a wage high enough to be able to afford even a modest apartment, let alone buy food and pay utilities. I live right down the road from a poultry farm which employs a family of Mexican immigrants. The farmer, while making a fairly decent living (at least until Pilgrim's filed bankruptcy) provides a mobile home for the family to live in, pays utilities on said home and also pays the family wages to work on his poultry farm. No doubt this family recieves Medicaid and food stamps as well and the children probably get free lunches at school. It is very hard, if not impossible, to get Americans to work these kinds of jobs. I'm not condoning illegal immigrants, but if legal immigrants will do the job, then why not hire them?
I agree with doing away with the electoral college....
it would certainly level the playing field and not give the bulk of the votes to the population centers. One only has to look at red states vs blue states to figure that one out.
Obama was a lush in college, huh?
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about that free college education
I posted this below but I think it will not get noticed 'cuz it is so far down and I am really wondering about it. My daughter, who graduated law school, has over 100K in student loans for her education. She is working hard to pay that back. What happens to those? She is killing herself to pay back while the next guy gets for free? I don't think so. Will Obama also forgive those loans? If not, I would expect greater default than we now see. And I would certainly expect to see a lot of professionals, the people with those big loans, protesting this deal big time. Just wondering if anyone else has any input there. I know people spent up to 20 years paying off those loans, and I would certainly resent spending 20 years paying off something that everyone is getting for free. That 100K applied to their mortgage would certainly be nice!! Might even allow her to work less hours and be home with the family more.
1st 2 yrs of a community college is already free
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Global Electoral College...s/m
This was already posted earlier, but I want to repeat it:
Would the whole world have voted, only
3 (three) ! countries are leaning towards McCain
Iraq
Democratic Republic of Congo
Algeria   
He thanked the college for not canceling out.
The kids stated he has freedom of speech and they were interested in what he had to say, in fact they had a right to hear what he said.
Other's weren't so sure he should be there, but all the inside tickets were sold out but there were a few simulcast tickets left.
I read some of her things from college
as well. That on top of them attending Rev. Wright's church for so long.....well....the bitter black woman with a chip on her shoulder is a perfect description of her, IMO.
Electoral college - Do we need it for a fair election? sm
Some states are talking about getting rid of the electoral college. Critics think this will lead to candidates pandering to urban areas to get the most votes.
Off the top, it sounds like a good idea to me because I'm in Alabama and if I could vote 100 times the republican party still would win our punny 3 electoral votes because we are overall a conservative state. Given that it seems like my vote doesn't count. However, I realize the electoral college was set up to avoid regional preferences.
The electoral college is Article II, Section 1
Joke's on you.
Has anyone heard about Michelle's college thesis?
I got an email yesterday talking about Michelle Obama's college thesis. I actually read most of her thesis. I had to click on a couple of links to see the actual copy of the thesis, but I just wondered if anyone else had read this, heard about it, and what they thought on the subject. I know it was stated that Princeton was not to release her thesis until after the election. Not sure who requested that or why, but after reading it I would assume it was her husband's campaign that requested it not be brought out before election and I could see why. I was a little unnerved by her thesis. Just curious what others thought.
I'm in Ohio. It's aimed at college students for O.
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Link: www.Global Electoral College.com.......nm
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REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GET THE COLLEGE CREDIT! NM
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I'm sorry, but I attended college in upstate NY. 100% of my friends were 100% liberal. sm
Not one of them believed in God. That was the only thing that I can go by.
Half sister ---college student --- left that
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technically not even president-elect until electoral college meets. nm
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Tests can be thrown, college admissions bought and sold
Since when can IQ be extrapolated from SAT test scores? I'd appreciate a source citation so I can read up on that, unless you are going on those lame IQ test websites that have assigned W, O and Michelle's IQ all at 125. Fact is, brilliant people have been known to score low on SAT for a variety of reasons so that argument is not terribly convincing.
I'm going strictly on such measures as butchery of his native tongue, i.e., inability to form more than monosyllabic 6-word sentences without a teleprompt or cue cards, how challenged he is to complete a whole thought and his dependence on behind-the-scenes heavyweights to engineer his campaigns and run his presidency, just to name a few.
W was denied admission to St. John's Academy (HS) and UT School of Law. This does not happen for no reason. His distinguishing accomplishment at his Dad's alma mater was joining the secret society of the Skull and Bones brotherhood. I'm a firm believer that strings were pulled on his behalf (as they were on so many other occasions) to get him into the ivy league track, unlike Obama, who did it the old-fashioned way (scholastic achievement) when he transferred to Columbia and was ultimately admitted to Harvard, where he graduated magna cum laude.
Bush does have an impressive record of failing at almost everything he every tried to do before (and after) his political career: In abstentia service in the National Guard, bombed election bid for the Texas House of Representatives in 1978, and an oil company that went bust which he left under a cloud of suspicion of insider trading. He did manage to capitalize on his 5-year dalliance with the Texas Rangers baseball team (could't really call what he did there REAL work) just long enough to get good name recognition for his run for gov and make a profitable sale of his shares in the team.
This less than stellar performance was totally eclipsed by the multitude of screw-ups while in office, way too much to get into in the confines of this forum. Bottom line for me is that his behavior and performance is very uninspiring, less than mediocre and not at all suggestive of much in the way of creativity or intellect....in other words, the polar opposite of the O. Hence the statement, IQ is good for the country. The wisdom angle was somebody else's attempt to side-step the issue of W's stupidity.
Also, because we are white middle class and have a house, we are putting kids through college, ever
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Correction!
I copied the wrong link. THIS is the link that includes the clip of him saying what he denied saying. Sorry!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/11/10.html#a5796
correction, *believe OR think* and *put this out there for you to THINK about.* sm
Excuse my misspellings, I'm typing too fast.
Correction
Yet, he goes on business as usual Iraq speeches, guitar playing, and everything *under the sun in response to Katrina* and not until he is criticized that he shows up for photo ops. In my mind this is criminal as well.
Correction.
Re: #4 and #22. Commas where inserted where numbers should appear. Total = 54.
Correction: Don't come here looking for you.
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correction
George HW Bush IV is the global head of investment management for now-bankrupt Lehman Brothers, not ML. Got my bankrupt companies mixed up...
Correction to above
I did find the US Code on another site. I don't know why it won't pull up on the US Code search. However, the fact is that the whole issue in the original post was regarding Obama's appearance on "Meet the Press" September 7, 2008. He has not been on there in months and the supposed author of the article does not appear to be a real person, certainly not a writer for The Washington Post, or googling his name would have pulled up an abundance of articles he had written.
Correction.
I wrote previously that you responded to my response to GP. I see now that you responded to my response to Chele.
I'm still confused by "OP," though.
Correction.
I accidentally posted the wrong link above the Norwegian MD video. It should be as it appears below. I am posting the warning again in case anyone views this without having read my other post.
WARNING. These videos are extremely graphic and quite disturbing. If you are faint at heart, have just eaten or if there are children in the room, DO NOT VIEW THESE ACCOUNTS. However, if you are interested in an unsanitized report of this conflict as seen by everybody else outside the US, take a deep breath and a long, hard look at our tax dollars at work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev6ojm62qwA
Norweigian MD says he has only treated ONE Hamas military among the other hundreds of injured and dead.
Correction...(sm)
Here's what you said:
*Like it or not nations are formed through civil war. There are winners and there are losers. It's really very simple. The process has not changed for centuries and it will never change. The strong prevail. The righteous prevail. The minute we take a liberal viewpoint, that's the exact minute we become weak. *
So, the question I had was whether or not you thought Hitler was righteous, since he did prevail. (notice the lack of the word Jews in your statement above).
And yes, I did bring Hitler into the conversation. He systematically tied to wipe out a group of people, which is exactly what Israel is doing right now.
*there is a very fine line between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism, a line that was very clearly crossed when just the big bag posted her Hitler remark, a line many have crossed in this discussion by likening the Gaza Strip to a concentration camp. When you say these things you have become an anti-Semitic.*
And that should mean what to me? If Israel's actions right now are indicative of Jews in general, then please by all means, call me an anti-semitic.
However, to me this really has nothing to do with Jews in general. It has everything to do with a government (Israel's) that is simply in the wrong.
How many schools have they bombed now?
Correction...(sm)
Clinton tried to kill Osama and failed. He then passed all information on to Bush, who simply ignored it for 9 months.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3L2513JFJsY
Correction, I should have said
middle school.
Correction...(sm)
*do not have TVs* should have been -- do not have compatible TVs
Correction...
guy singing with his friends...and freecreditreport.com.
Correction.....(sm)
Technically, we are not in a war.
correction
it is not just republicans. there is hate on both sides.
Correction.....(sm)
It's not that we can't talk to Iranian leaders, it's that we haven't been able to talk to them in the past. You're right that the supreme leader pretty much controls everything; however, I think with what is going on right now, it's not just the president who is in jeopardy, but also the supreme leader. I don't know if you caught any interviews of Moosavi backers before the election, but they were saying what they wanted was to be more in tune with the rest of the world. They are tired of being cut off financially and socially from everyone else. If the people of Iran get their way with this election (which is iffy at best), then perhaps we could wind up with someone we could talk to.
The thing about the US getting involved is that it has to be because we were invited. If they ask for help, then I would help them. If they don't ask for help, then if we did butt in, it would again to them look like we are trying to control their govt, which is about the last thing we need right now.
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Correction, Roe, not *Rowe*
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Correction - This..."If you are not with me, you are against me."
is Bush's motto.
Correction...about 22 debates....nm
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