Has anyone heard about Michelle's college thesis?
Posted By: Chele on 2008-09-18
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I got an email yesterday talking about Michelle Obama's college thesis. I actually read most of her thesis. I had to click on a couple of links to see the actual copy of the thesis, but I just wondered if anyone else had read this, heard about it, and what they thought on the subject. I know it was stated that Princeton was not to release her thesis until after the election. Not sure who requested that or why, but after reading it I would assume it was her husband's campaign that requested it not be brought out before election and I could see why. I was a little unnerved by her thesis. Just curious what others thought.
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Thesis
I haven't read her thesis but I don't think I need to. I researched the church she has espoused for the past 20 odd years and that tells me everything I need to know about what her thesis probably says. While I said I will vote for her husband, being willing to take a chance on the unknown and hoping congress will hold her values in check, I am far from an Obama fanatic. McCain is a great warrior but God knows we don't need another war AND his record shows he has voted with Bush 90% of the time. That ought to tell us something......and if not, then his utter failure in selecting a running mate who could actually lead this country in case of his demise should.
I read her thesis.
I also was raised as a child of the 50s and lived through the 60s and 70s as a teenager and young adult. In order to understand the thesis, one has to be able to put themselves back in time to those days, walk a few miles in the shoes of a young black woman or black man and understand historical context. The same applies to Rev Wright. I am able to do that to some extent because of my background, a story I have posted here before.
I was born in the silver-sppon community of Highland Park, Dallas, TX, a stone's throw away from where W and Laura Bush will be moving (Preston Hollow, by SMU where the Bush Library will be developed). My dad was an attorney and he and my grandmother were real estate developers, with more than 500 pieces of residential and commercial property in West Dallas, the poorest section, where impoverished whites, black and Mexican families live. My mom was a republican socialite. It was unfashionable in those days for wealthy women to raise their own children. Hence, I was raised by 2 strong black women (a maid and nanny) and one very wise old black man (gardener). I loved them every bit as much as I loved my own parents.
My dad was the black sheep of the family being an advocate for the poor and a thorn in the side of city council, constantly dogging them for sidwalks, paved roads and INDOOR PLUMBING in West Dallas. I loved going there with him because people were not stuck up there like they were in Highland Park and everybody was friendly and knew one another.
One of the hardest things I had to deal with was the prejudice and bigotry whenever I went anywhere with Roxie (the nanny) or Virginia (the maid). We sometimes took the bus down to the community swimming pool, where, at age 4 and 5, was not allowed to sit in the same section of the bus with them. They also were not allow inside of the fenced area around the pool, could not drink from the same water fountains, use the same restrooms or even buy snow cones from the concession stand. I cannot begin to describe the pain that brought into my life and will not even attempt it here.
As a consequence, I mobilized myself and became politically active at a very young age and stayed that way from 1962 until the present day. I am able to read the thesis without the trappings of white outrage and, instead, can see it very clearly through the eyes of my departed black mamas. The underpinnings of that thesis smack of the white-on-black bigotry and racism that I believe every black person has the right to speak out against and certainly should not be forgotten any time soon...and won't be as long as I draw breath.
If that makes me a bully, so be it.
I read her thesis.
I also was raised as a child of the 50s and lived through the 60s and 70s as a teenager and young adult. In order to understand the thesis, one has to be able to put themselves back in time to those days, walk a few miles in the shoes of a young black woman or black man and understand historical context. The same applies to Rev Wright. I am able to do that to some extent because of my background, a story I have posted here before.
I was born in the silver-sppon community of Highland Park, Dallas, TX, a stone's throw away from where W and Laura Bush will be moving (Preston Hollow, by SMU where the Bush Library will be developed). My dad was an attorney and he and my grandmother were real estate developers, with more than 500 pieces of residential and commercial property in West Dallas, the poorest section, where impoverished whites, black and Mexican families live. My mom was a republican socialite. It was unfashionable in those days for wealthy women to raise their own children. Hence, I was raised by 2 strong black women (a maid and nanny) and one very wise old black man (gardener). I loved them every bit as much as I loved my own parents.
My dad was the black sheep of the family being an advocate for the poor and a thorn in the side of city council, constantly dogging them for sidwalks, paved roads and INDOOR PLUMBING in West Dallas. I loved going there with him because people were not stuck up there like they were in Highland Park and everybody was friendly and knew one another.
One of the hardest things I had to deal with was the prejudice and bigotry whenever I went anywhere with Roxie (the nanny) or Virginia (the maid). We sometimes took the bus down to the community swimming pool, where, at age 4 and 5, was not allowed to sit in the same section of the bus with them. They also were not allow inside of the fenced area around the pool, could not drink from the same water fountains, use the same restrooms or even buy snow cones from the concession stand. I cannot begin to describe the pain that brought into my life and will not even attempt it here.
As a consequence, I mobilized myself and became politically active at a very young age and stayed that way from 1962 until the present day. I am able to read the thesis without the trappings of white outrage and, instead, can see it very clearly through the eyes of my departed black mamas. The underpinnings of that thesis smack of the white-on-black bigotry and racism that I believe every black person has the right to speak out against and certainly should not be forgotten any time soon...and won't be as long as I draw breath.
If that makes me a bully, so be it.
When I was in college
I was very liberal - led rallies for Dukakis, made phone calls, passed out bumper stickers, etc. My dad, who is very conservative, called me out on my liberal views one day with this story.
"A girl with very liberal political views came home from college to visit her parents, who were very conservative. She started to discuss politics with her father, even though they always disagreed. Her dad, deciding to change the subject, asked her how she was doing in school. She replied that she was doing great and carrying a 4.0 gpa, but she didn't have much time to socialize because she was studying so much. The dad then asked how her friend from high school was doing. The daughter replied that her friend wasn't doing very well - she went to parties all the time, never studied and hardly ever went to class. She was carrying a 3.5 gpa. The dad said that maybe she could go to the Dean of the college and ask him to give her friend 0.5 points of her gpa - that way, they would both have a 3.5 gpa and they would be equal. The daughter was very upset by this suggestion, as she had worked very hard and given up a lot in order to have such good grades and that it would not be fair for her to give her friend her points when she had done nothing to earn them. Her father just smiled and said "Welcome to the Republican party."
Correction -- *College* (nm)
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Electoral College........
If you really knew what you were talking about, you wouldn't even have kicked your point down by saying anything about the electoral collge. The electoral college really is illegal and unconstitutional and there is no place for it in this country. It is mainly far left liberals who only look at for themselvs and could care less about the country as a whole. What a joke!!
the electoral college
I don't really know what people would want but I do know that the final decision on presidency rests with the electoral college, which vote will not take place until december 15th. The whole issue is designed to influence the votes of the electors so all remains to be seen after the SC today and the electoral vote on 12/15.
Getting rid of the electorial college....sm
or at least rewriting it is one of Obama's plans for his presidency. Perhaps his brilliant idea to beef up the registered voters in electorial-rich states will be his research market study to sell the idea to Congress and to the American people.
I don't think the electorial college is the ideal method of determining presidency as it stands now, but I am not sure what the answer needs to be. Popular vote would probably net the same results, a few more densly populous states determining the outcome of the presidency, but it does seem more representative of what the people want than some calculated system such as the electorial college.
Electoral college.... sm
What do you think will happen on December 15 when the electoral college convenes?
Do you think that Obama has succeeded in changing the color of the electoral college permanently or at least for this election? Do you think the electors will stand by their votes or do you think some who changed over might revert back?
electoral college?
Honestly, this 'electoral college' always confuses me and I believe I am not alone in this.
Could you be so kind and explain?
Always open to learn something.
Thanks
Youths in College
"Youths in college" are busy trying to figure out how they're gonna pay for their textbooks and keep their grades high enough to stay in school next semester. And get drunk on Saturday night. What "youths" do YOU know who are Young Democratic Socialists, for crying out loud?
And yes, I do like to argue.
Are you asking if college students...(sm)
should be allowed to vote or if democratic socialists should be allowed to vote?
Went all the way, school, college degree
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college educated voter in the
suburb up the road says farmer is an ignorant redneck who does not check facts.
Then maybe that college educated voter......... sm
might like to test that theory by working a season or two in the redneck farmer's fields.
I live in an area where there are a lot of immigrant workers. The truth of the matter is that farmers really cannot afford to pay a wage high enough to be able to afford even a modest apartment, let alone buy food and pay utilities. I live right down the road from a poultry farm which employs a family of Mexican immigrants. The farmer, while making a fairly decent living (at least until Pilgrim's filed bankruptcy) provides a mobile home for the family to live in, pays utilities on said home and also pays the family wages to work on his poultry farm. No doubt this family recieves Medicaid and food stamps as well and the children probably get free lunches at school. It is very hard, if not impossible, to get Americans to work these kinds of jobs. I'm not condoning illegal immigrants, but if legal immigrants will do the job, then why not hire them?
I agree with doing away with the electoral college....
it would certainly level the playing field and not give the bulk of the votes to the population centers. One only has to look at red states vs blue states to figure that one out.
Obama was a lush in college, huh?
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about that free college education
I posted this below but I think it will not get noticed 'cuz it is so far down and I am really wondering about it. My daughter, who graduated law school, has over 100K in student loans for her education. She is working hard to pay that back. What happens to those? She is killing herself to pay back while the next guy gets for free? I don't think so. Will Obama also forgive those loans? If not, I would expect greater default than we now see. And I would certainly expect to see a lot of professionals, the people with those big loans, protesting this deal big time. Just wondering if anyone else has any input there. I know people spent up to 20 years paying off those loans, and I would certainly resent spending 20 years paying off something that everyone is getting for free. That 100K applied to their mortgage would certainly be nice!! Might even allow her to work less hours and be home with the family more.
1st 2 yrs of a community college is already free
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Global Electoral College...s/m
This was already posted earlier, but I want to repeat it:
Would the whole world have voted, only
3 (three) ! countries are leaning towards McCain
Iraq
Democratic Republic of Congo
Algeria   
He thanked the college for not canceling out.
The kids stated he has freedom of speech and they were interested in what he had to say, in fact they had a right to hear what he said.
Other's weren't so sure he should be there, but all the inside tickets were sold out but there were a few simulcast tickets left.
I read some of her things from college
as well. That on top of them attending Rev. Wright's church for so long.....well....the bitter black woman with a chip on her shoulder is a perfect description of her, IMO.
Electoral college - Do we need it for a fair election? sm
Some states are talking about getting rid of the electoral college. Critics think this will lead to candidates pandering to urban areas to get the most votes.
Off the top, it sounds like a good idea to me because I'm in Alabama and if I could vote 100 times the republican party still would win our punny 3 electoral votes because we are overall a conservative state. Given that it seems like my vote doesn't count. However, I realize the electoral college was set up to avoid regional preferences.
The electoral college is Article II, Section 1
Joke's on you.
I'm in Ohio. It's aimed at college students for O.
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Link: www.Global Electoral College.com.......nm
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REQUIRED IN ORDER TO GET THE COLLEGE CREDIT! NM
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I'm sorry, but I attended college in upstate NY. 100% of my friends were 100% liberal. sm
Not one of them believed in God. That was the only thing that I can go by.
Half sister ---college student --- left that
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technically not even president-elect until electoral college meets. nm
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Tests can be thrown, college admissions bought and sold
Since when can IQ be extrapolated from SAT test scores? I'd appreciate a source citation so I can read up on that, unless you are going on those lame IQ test websites that have assigned W, O and Michelle's IQ all at 125. Fact is, brilliant people have been known to score low on SAT for a variety of reasons so that argument is not terribly convincing.
I'm going strictly on such measures as butchery of his native tongue, i.e., inability to form more than monosyllabic 6-word sentences without a teleprompt or cue cards, how challenged he is to complete a whole thought and his dependence on behind-the-scenes heavyweights to engineer his campaigns and run his presidency, just to name a few.
W was denied admission to St. John's Academy (HS) and UT School of Law. This does not happen for no reason. His distinguishing accomplishment at his Dad's alma mater was joining the secret society of the Skull and Bones brotherhood. I'm a firm believer that strings were pulled on his behalf (as they were on so many other occasions) to get him into the ivy league track, unlike Obama, who did it the old-fashioned way (scholastic achievement) when he transferred to Columbia and was ultimately admitted to Harvard, where he graduated magna cum laude.
Bush does have an impressive record of failing at almost everything he every tried to do before (and after) his political career: In abstentia service in the National Guard, bombed election bid for the Texas House of Representatives in 1978, and an oil company that went bust which he left under a cloud of suspicion of insider trading. He did manage to capitalize on his 5-year dalliance with the Texas Rangers baseball team (could't really call what he did there REAL work) just long enough to get good name recognition for his run for gov and make a profitable sale of his shares in the team.
This less than stellar performance was totally eclipsed by the multitude of screw-ups while in office, way too much to get into in the confines of this forum. Bottom line for me is that his behavior and performance is very uninspiring, less than mediocre and not at all suggestive of much in the way of creativity or intellect....in other words, the polar opposite of the O. Hence the statement, IQ is good for the country. The wisdom angle was somebody else's attempt to side-step the issue of W's stupidity.
How about Michelle!!
 She was great last night at the convention!! I will be tuning in for the remainder of the convention. I am so excited about this race!! It is time for change!!
Michelle
Not only do I believe Michelle is racist but I believe her husband is as well. If you listen to him it's there even if you have to read between the lines. My personal feeling is that it would be easier to deal with that than with McCain/Palin. I will be the first to admit that I may be making a mistake because I do not want to see either of them in office. Unfortunately, the Republicans on here will not even debate the issues they are so dead set for McCain/Palin. The fact that some may say she is lacking in experience, which she is, doesn't bother me. We might even be better off with an outsider who had no political experience whatsoever but a large dose of common sense which Washington seems to be extremely short on.. Experience is not my problem with Palin. She comes across to me as a simpering airhead. What kind of common sense did McCain show when he picked her after having only met her one time and talked to her on the phone once. Because he thought she would attract Hillary's woman voters. Looks like he may have been right too.
And so he should....and Michelle should...
remiburse the tax coffers for her little private C130 ride from Paris to London for shopping. Won't hold my breath waiting on that check. It is somehow worse that he was using to meet his mistress than she was using it to go shopping?? BOTH WRONG.
Also, because we are white middle class and have a house, we are putting kids through college, ever
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Cindy is 54; Michelle is 44
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here's what Michelle Obama says about the WHOLE PIE - please sm
This is what Michelle Obama had to say about the 'redistribution of wealth' (in keeping with the Global Poverty Act):
"The truth is most Americans don't want much. Folks don't want the whole pie. Most Americans feel blessed to thrive a little bit, but that's out of reach for them. The truth is, in order to get things like unviersal health care and a revamped education system, then SOMEONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO GIVE UP A PIECE OF THEIR PIE SO THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN HAVE MORE."
And to accomplish this, she says:
"Barack Obama will require you to work. He is gong to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your division, that you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones, that you push yourselves to be better, and that you engage. BARACK WILL NEVER ALLOW YOU TO GO BACK AND LIVE YOUR LIVES AS USUAL, uninvolved, uniformed."
I'm sorry, but that thinking is more in line with the totalitarian governments of China, North Korea and Cuba. Last I looked, I was still living in America. I have the Constitutional right to succeed or fail according to my own abilities, and I staunchly support everyone else's right to do the same. (You know, that little something called 'the pursuit of happiness?)
But I don't want big government deciding I have 'enough' and handing it off to someone in another country who may not have their 'fair share.' I already pay taxes, tithe 10% to charities, volunteer at my local food bank, and shovel the sidewalk of the elderly couple next door. I think most Americans are doing this kind of stuff day in and day. Because WE CARE about one another.
If more of my money is being shipped overseas, how am I to help my own next door neighbor?
Michelle Obama
When you said that Michelle Obama "doesn't talk like a black woman," - how exactly do black women talk? When you said that, it is so clear that you are racist. I am sure you will have one heck of an explanation about what you meant, but I would rather hear how you think black women talk.
I really hope that Michelle will put on at her
next appearance 'some sleeves' at least, or maybe a jacket.
This dress is not only sleeveless, it is less than sleeveless.
Are all the events she attends sleeveless 'informal'?
GEESH, What is next? Michelle
Already has to show off her arms.
maybe this was what he promised Michelle
when he becomes president: A trip to New York and for the girls a doggie.
I see Michelle Obama
as an arrogant bitter black woman with a chip on her shoulder. There is no beauty that I see. Her kids are cute though.
Oh, yes. Absolutely. Both BO and Michelle
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Who cares what Michelle Obama wants....
She was not even proud to be American majority of her life. 
Michelle's Boot Camp
http://www.publicallies.org/site/c.liKUL3PNLvF/b.2634379/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Allies
I think Obama and Michelle are racist!
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I think Michelle/Obama are racist
And the McCain/Palin ticket have not/still continue to show racism?? The bottom line of all of the nasty hateful comments that I have seen on this board is that if Barack Obama did not run for the President of this country, the majority of you whould't give a flying bobcat WHO he is. The number of hateful, bigoted, mean nasty comments I have seen on this board are more than enough to know that in 2008, hate, bigotry and racism have never died; it is displayed in subtle insidious ways - to any of those who care, it has been ONLY a little over TEN years since a black man was tied to the back of a pick up truck in Texas and dragged around so much he was dismembered..it is situations such as those which break my heart - a human being. I will never understand it; and in this election the racism is extremely blatant. Not to mention the blatantly racist exhibition two white men decided to make money from - check You Tube under "Obama waffles" - look at how he is caricatured and then ask yourself WHAT is racist...
same here....I wonder what Michelle Obama thinks
she knows Biden does not care for her husband and has actually said he is not the man for the job of President. Boy, that must be a tense/false/forced smile when they get together.
Michelle Obama said don't believe the polls.
She said its too close to call right now.
Also there are over 11% who are still undecided.
What did you think about Michelle Obama's dress?
Just wondering
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