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Posted By: Or just a slam for the introduction? on 2008-09-01
In Reply to: The left does it all the time. - Don't act innocent. nm

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Serious post regarding S-CHIP for those interested...see inside

Apparently the individual states have a lot of discretion as to how they spend the federal CHIP money.  Pennsylvania, according to their website (PAkids.com I think, or something like that), isay they will insure ALL kids, no matter how much money their parents make.  Only kids who are eligible for Medical Assistance (for lower income families I think) are not eligible.  It says either it will be provided free or at a much reduced cost.  So, even before expansion, had individual states chosen to, they could have provided insurance to all kids apparently.  So if anyone is interested in seeing how their state handles the money, or is need of assistance, I would suggest going to individual state websites and see how their individual states handle the money.  If PA can do it, I would think other states could do it too....? 


I stand by my post as before - see message inside
I'm reading posts and you are all acting as though the child is living and outside the body already in school and is then taken away to be murdered.

I read another post that said "before you even know you are pregnant the heart is beating". This is totally false! Week 4 is when the brain, spinal cord, heart and other organs begin to form and continue to form. To suggest that at the instancy of sex you now have a live breathing baby whose heart is beating and brain is fully developed is absurd. - which by the way they can't speak for themselves so that is what you are all here for. Having an abortion before the baby is developed is the safest. You can call it as you like to. Most of you have a heart so cruel you like to label people as murderers. This embryo is not someone, it is an embryo. Full term abortions and killing babies outside the womb I believe is disgusting and vile. As for Laci Peterson - she was getting ready to give birth to a baby. If that baby was born it would lived. Yeah, but that's a whole different topic, but to have an abortion before the organs are fully developed and the child's brain has developed and they have no nerves so cannot feel anything is a different story.

Lastly, I would never have an abortion myself, but if by chance I did and the embryo has not had time to develop (first trimester) then you keep your nose out of my business where it does not belong. I answer to one higher being (our creator) not you!!!!!

I stand by the original poster. Keep your noses out of where they don't belong.

P.S. - I certainly am not going to listen to a bunch of hipocrites who will murder innocent animals so they can devour them at their meals. Now that is disgusting to me!!
This is a "bash free" post - see inside.
You posted on 8/26 about abortions – your title said don’t read if it bothers you so there was no need to shout it as us as we all can read.

That’s fine you want to post about abortion, but you also posted on 8/25 about abortion not counting the numerous times you brought in the subject of abortion to other posts (in all fairness you did not start those conversations) but what started out as one subject you turned into abortion issues. So in the beginning the postings about abortions were fine but then it started getting very tiring and when people disagreed that is when you started in on them.

I read messages from people not bashing you but simply stating they were tired of hearing the same thing and that’s when you started bashing them.

One post said “We stopped reading your posts a long time ago” That is not a bash. Another post said “My sentiments exactly”. Again that is not a bash. But you came back and said “Enter the cheerleader. Predictable. So much for listening to the other side. Then inside the message you called them a liberal and said if they only believed their philosophy it might actually BE a better world” That is bashing!

Then someone came back and said “listening over, and over, and over and inside said she is not affiliated with any party and most definitely am not a liberal. Again – that is not a bash.

Then more posts after that. My point is you were the first to start the “bashings”. When people tell you they are tired of hearing about the abortion subject (without bashing you) you don’t like that and have to give a nasty comment to them.

I have read six posters all saying the subject matter is getting tiring and old and that it was covered extensively below in other posts. The “we” I am referring to are those six posters.

Abortion is just one issue that people feel very strongly about which will eventually lead to heated words if people don’t agree with the posters viewpoint, then comes the bashing, people being called liberals when nobody knows what their viewpoints are. Sure we all feel strongly about issues but we don’t like being called names. I read all the previous posts and not once did I read any post where anyone called you a name.

It is a free board and everyone is entitled to post what they want but like the latest poster said there is no need to bring it up again. I say there are way too many interesting things in politics going on. I’m sure I will start up some new topics. What’s that saying. “Let’s let sleeping dogs lie” (at least I think that’s the saying) :-) – just say lets give the abortion subject a rest.
true, your post has nothing inside it. Your point please?
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Why don't you actually answer the post?
Mockery is great but what do you actually have to say about the point of Lurker's post? The article is right on. Would you defend Clinton to the death if he did any of those things? Of course not, you wouldn't have defended him if he single-handedly rescued 50 orphans from a burning building. So why are you so blind as to defend someone else who does those things?
your answer to the post was

vacuous.  I was merely pointing that out.  My post was not really to you, but for the benefit of the elite democrats on this board who enjoy seeing the silly posters in a smackdown left standing with their mouth in a big O.


 


 


Hi, Your llink did not show up, only 'page not found.' so I post my link inside...sm

NewsWorld newsIran

Tehran braces for crackdown as protesters vow to defy KhameneiSupreme leader warns Mousavi supporters against bloodshed

guardian.co.uk, Friday 19 June 2009
Iran's opposition faces a critical test of resolve and the country an uncertain future tomorrow after the Islamic regime's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, issued a blunt warning to those involved in mass protests over last week's "stolen" presidential election that they would "bear the responsibility" for any bloodshed.

Khamenei rejected accusations of fraud in the poll, confirmed the incumbent, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as the winner, and gave no ground to the millions of Iranians demanding their votes back.

Mir Hossein Mousavi, who claims he beat Ahmadinejad in the race, was said by an ally to have no plans for unauthorised rallies tomorrow following the warning, but supporters vowed to go on protesting.

Fears grew tonight of an intensifying crackdown on media and opposition activists. Students at the fine arts faculty of Tehran University – where scores of students were injured and some reported killed after raids by security forces earlier this week – announced an indefinite sit-in starting tomorrow.

Khamenei's closely watched speech at prayers at Tehran University could hardly have been tougher. It had been hoped he might adopt a more conciliatory tone that would help defuse the gathering crisis, the worst in Iran's 30-year post-revolutionary history. But he warned: "If there is any bloodshed, the leaders of the protests will be held directly responsible. The result of the election comes from the ballot box, not from the street. Today the Iranian nation needs calm."

Tens of thousands of worshippers cheered as he told them: "It is your victory. They cannot manipulate it."

Mousavi, a moderate former prime minister whose "green" movement scared the regime with the support it was attracting, ignored a call to attend the prayer meeting and now faces a dilemma over his next step. Ignoring Khamenei's message risks bloodshed on a far larger scale than the eight people killed last week. Accepting it means surrender to the regime.

The reformist cleric Mehdi Karroubi, another candidate for the presidency, added to the pressure tonight by also calling for the election to be annulled. "Accept the Iranian nation's will by cancelling the vote and guarantee the establishment's survival," he urged.

Khamenei attacked opponents at home but also lambasted Iran's enemies abroad in hardline remarks that bode ill for any opening to the US, where Barack Obama is seeking talks to tackle worries over Iran's nuclear ambitions.

Britain was attacked as "the most evil", but the US, Israel and "Zionist-controlled" media were also abused, as was Hillary Clinton, the US secretary of state. "The enemies are targeting the Islamic establishment's legitimacy by questioning the election and its authenticity before and after [the vote]," said Khamenei.

The speech underlined the sense of profound crisis, since the supreme leader usually only speaks in public at the end of Ramadan and on the anniversary of the 1979 revolution.

Analysts and commentators were dismayed by its implications. Sadegh Saba, chief analyst for BBC Persian TV, said: "Mousavi wants the protests to continue but Khamenei is saying if they do there might be bloodshed – and it will be on your hands."

Issa Saharkhiz, a Tehran-based pro-reformist commentator, said Khamenei's speech had transformed the crisis from a conflict over the election result into a trial of his own political authority, which was now being openly questioned. "Now the issue is that the supreme leader's sense of justice, management and competence is under question," he told Deutsche Welle. "The leadership of the country cannot be left in the hands of such a person, who for the sake of preserving himself and his own power, threatens people with mass murder."

Crucially, Khamenei ruled out any cheating in the election, apparently dashing hopes that a partial recount ordered by the guardian council, a supervisory body of senior clerics, will mitigate the crisis.

Khamenei's call for Mousavi and Karroubi to confine their protests to legal avenues prompted mockery. "This means that Imam Hossein [the third most revered figure in Shia Islam], instead of making a last stand at Karbala, [should have] pursued his grievances through the legal process," one blogger said on the Farsi blogsite Balatarin.

Balatarin was flooded with messages voicing outrage at Khamenei's warning that opposition leaders would be held responsible for further unrest and bloodshed. One correspondent wrote: "Mr Khamenei, the direct responsibility for any damage to people's lives or property from now on lies with you."

In Washington, the House of Representatives voted overwhelmingly to condemn Tehran's crackdown on demonstrators. It was the strongest message yet to Iran.

The post was *so now you speak for God, gt* Her answer yup.

What is wrong with you?  Time for new glasses????


Sorry, can't post an answer to your question
because I am not welcome to post here anymore
Why do you answer my post. then if you, as you state
'had nothing to do with these things...?'

I feel the need to answer on this board regarding this post. SM

You could not possibly have done an in depth research of the Protest Warriors.  They are no more pro war than God is.   They do believe in the right to bear arms, part of our Constitution, by the way.  I know how deeply offended you must be by seeing pictures of those who own guns defying your agenda to take them away from them, despite what the Constitution says.  They are pro-Israel and believe, as I do, in the Israeli state.  They are Jewish.  I am not.  While doing your selective in-depth review of their web site, did you happen to view any of the videos.  Two?  Even one?   I am thinking you probably didn't.  Protest Warriors expose the left for what they have become.  Shrill, violent apologists for terrorists.  Anti-American shills for the very people who want us dead.  If you viewed the videos, you would know that.  But you don't want to know that I am sure.  Please stop speaking about something you obviously know nothing about.  I am the member you spoke about. I don't know anyone else who posts on the boards who has admitted to being a member.  


Carla, I have to answer this ridiculous post. SM
I feel justified, since you make use of our board and post over there, though I have stayed off this board.  In fact, most of us have.  You are absolutely full of bull.  First of all, Carla, the Salvation Army IS A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION.  They always have been.  Second, prove to me what you are saying is true.  I don't believe a word of it.  Secondly, Carla, there is no connection between the Salvation Army, day care centers and the Republican Party.  Your posts get more bizarre every single time. 
I forgot to say, I will answer your post in more depth later.
I am most definitely a conservative, though. You are correct. 
For Taiga...sorry I did not answer your post about CBS and Politico...

as to I should let CBS know that the Iraq link in their article went to Politico....this is from the CBS news site:



From Our Partner:






soooooo I'm thinking CBS knows that the link went to Politico...ya think??  You falsely accused me, and you were wrong.  I DID get my article from CBS.  


Just keeping the record straight.


I will answer you just as soon as you address my orignal post
that question repeatedly and I think you and I both know why you have been running from it all day long.
My post was a direct answer to the direct post...
of Democrat. It was not a blank open-ended statement. And dial it back a notch...it is certainly your right to protest anything any time you want to. Just like it is my right to protest you protesting while men and women are still in harm's way, because you are in effect aiding the enemy. Apparently the Viet Nam experience taught you nothing. Americans protesting in the streets heartened the enemy and when they were about to surrender decided not to, based a lot upon what was happening in the American streets. I believe that the protesting in that war prolonged the war and cost more American lives. Hanoi Jane should have been tried for treason. That being said...lessons were not learned and the protestors are doing the exact same thing now. Exercising the very right bought for them by shedding of American military blood. And I still say common courtesy should keep people out of the streets and off the TV until the military are home safe. But it just proves the same thing to me over and over...the selfISHhness of the protestors vs. the selfLESSness of the military. They continue to put it all on the line for your right to protest anything you want to protest...it is up to YOU to decide where and when that is appropriate, and it is up to you to take the heat for same. It is up to me and others like me (in my opinion) to apply that heat. Go ahead and do whatever your conscience or lack thereof moves you to do. But do not expect those of a different mind not to protest the protest.
why do you answer so stupidly, the right answer
if you had any brains, would have been......

'well, she made a mistake.'

But telling me that I need a job, is so stupid, yes, stupid AND a very weak point.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with laughing at something that is not only very funny but also happens to be true.  Unfortunately, this Administration hasn't given us very much to smile about.


When I read this, nothing led me to believe that Google has a liberal's brain.  By the way how much DID that "poor schlump" part with, since you seem to have all the answers? 


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From your posting:


"So if you and Chomsky are comfortable with putting every man, woman and child in this country at risk to satisfy whatever beef you have against freedom and democracy, fine.  Your freedom of speech had a most terrible and high price tag.  Something tells me that many of these fine men and women, if they could speak now, would not thank you for your thoughts."


I do not recall stating anything related to your above quote.  As I said, you may have me confused with another poster. 


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In the first place, I'd like to say thanks for posting here, and you're welcome here any time.


As far as supplying topics to discuss, YOU seem to be the one who is actually supplying the topics.  Today the Conservative board is a pleasant place to be, and even I felt safe responding to a post in your thread.  The topic was excellent, and nowhere have I seen you attack a poster for his or her opinion. 


You haven't come across as confrontational and hateful.  Unfortunately, to a lot of people, these three have done so.


People can debate without personally attacking a poster that doesn't agree with them.  You seem to have done that.  I hope the Conservative board is able to get more posters like you.  You've made it a comfortable place to be.


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Chill!  LOL.  Gee, you sure are defensive.  I wonder where that came from!


You are NOT on the conservative board any more, and you don't have to walk on eggshells here (although I seem to have acquired a "fan" who has been following me around on this board, taking swipes at everything I say and just generally being unpleasant and contributing nothing of value to any conversation).  If you read the posts here, it's obvious to see whose agenda it is to discuss and debat and whose agenda is restricted to creating discomfort and attacking.


I thought your post was great, and there wasn't one word or phrase in your post above that would imply any lack of respect for a soldier. 


Some people just can't understand that others support the troops by wanting to keep them alive, honor their lives by only placing those lives in jeopardy when absolutely critical and necessary to protect America.  It's obvious you're not "against" our troops, but instead you're trying to fight FOR THEM while they are fighting for HIM and what I believe in the core of my soul to be his personal grudge war.  I believe more and more people are coming to this realization every day and share your thoughts (and mine), as well.


I come here because I like to see what a few certain posters write.  I've been reading these posters' thoughts for a few weeks now, and I find them to be genuine, original and heartfelt.  (If you have any doubt as to who these people are, just follow the long trail of the hateful responses to their posts.)  It's a source of relaxation to me after I finish working.  I've actually made a list of whose posts aren't worth reading any more because they totally lack value and are designed to do nothing but attack and harass.  I'm no longer willing to feed their addiction to hate, and I simply won't respond to them any more.  Again, if you read the board, I'm sure you will see who I'm referring to and why.  Wouldn't surprise me at all if you are their next target.  They can be very upsetting and cause normal, intelligent people to become very defensive.  They bait posters, and it seems to me if they're ignored, their posts will just stand alone, making their motives very, very clear.  (Just my personal opinion, and I only mention it because I don't want anyone to get to you or chase you away from here because they simply aren't worth it.)


I'm really glad to see you here.  Now I have one more reason to continue visiting this board.  I hope you have a great day! 


P.S.  I noted in your first post you mentioned you're a "military brat."  I'd just like to personally thank you and your family for the sacrifices you made for your country and for me as one of its citizens!


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I'm posting the entire post, since I'm not sure if I copied the link correctly.  It was posted by vs, followed by additional attacks on gt and Brunson complaining of the *bog of eternal stench* that she claims *tends to drift on over here* on the Conservative Board, after nobody from the Liberal Board has bothered them.  Not once.


This is the post on the Conservative Board from vs, but it's not the only objectionable one.


Sorry to see you go





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Posted By: vs on 2005-11-28,
In Reply to: I agree with you, MT. SM - Brunson

I understand why though. It's a darn shame that one or two people make this an intolerable place for everyone. Well, if the post count goes down on the boards then maybe they will revisit their policies. At least on these boards the two-initialed Nazi is allowed get away with her genocide of anything conservative, but that's not helping the post count on the board at all.

BTW, I went to the Extremely Politics board, and only a person with a self-esteem death wish would dare post there. I can see why the two-initialed Nazi likes it there. She's free to practice her hate. It's not a place I would want to touch with a 10-foot pole.


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See inside. SM

Yes, forgiveness does mean that we have to realize our sins and confess them.   But, unless you are either George Bush himself, his pastor, or his God, how do you know he hasn't?  That is conjecture on your part.  None of us knows what has transpired between this man and his God.  I realize what I am saying will not be popular here, but I don't see a whole lot of Christianity in what I am seeing. Quoting from written sources is not addressing the fact that you are sitting in judgement of someone who is not you.  We aren't supposed to do that.  I hope you all have a blessed Sunday. I am off to church and will certainly pray that God releases from your hearts the hatred you carry.  


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Here is some more from the conference.  So shines a light in a sometimes dim world.    


The sanctity and infinite worth of every human being is a quintessential Jewish value, grounded in the biblical notion that man is made in the image and likeness of God. Against this background, it is ironic and vexatious for many pro–life activists that American Jews tend to line up on the pro–choice side in the struggle over abortion. Affirming the Sanctity of Human Life, a conference held November 12 in Washington, D.C., brought together a hundred or so Jews who are troubled by the Jewish community’s stance toward the unborn, particularly concerning the gruesome late–term procedure known as partial–birth abortion.  The morning session consisted of panel presentations by three Orthodox Jews and a maverick Reform rabbi. Marshall Breger, a law professor and political writer, lamented the fact that Jews support abortion rights more than any religious or ethnic group: they are consistently 15 to 20 percent above the norm, he said, even when controlling for various factors such as religious belief or unbelief, political ideology, social class, etc. He attributed this support, in part, to fears that governmental restrictions on abortion would abridge personal autonomy and impose Christian religious standards on Jewish life. He said that gray areas in Jewish law—its combination of silence and ambiguity regarding the fetus’ status, its handful of exceptional situations allowing abortion—have confused Jews about the permissibility of abortion in general.


Barry Freundel, an Orthodox rabbi from Georgetown, seconded Breger’s sociological account of Jewish fears about abortion as being symbolic of the wider Jewish culture clash with conservative Christian movements. It’s hard to have a conversation about abortion, he said, that doesn’t become a conversation about something else. Even among his own Orthodox congregants, Freundel said, his pro–life preaching is treated as the rabbi getting up on his soapbox again. Nevertheless, he said, he feels obliged to inform them that the absolute license to abort, as practiced in the United States today, is simply impossible to reconcile with traditional Jewish teaching. Judaism, he said, permits abortion in a few limited circumstances, such as to save the life of the mother. He indicated that there is some difference of rabbinic opinion about these circumstances, but stressed that there is no warrant for the overwhelming number of abortions now performed in the U.S. He said that classic Jewish sources really don’t say much about the general moral or metaphysical status of the fetus; but, he added, we have an intuitive response that the fetus is not like an appendix or an in–grown toe nail that can simply be removed at will.


 


Thanks, A.G....(msg inside)
Yes, I figured it out, but I kept thinking surely to goodness he/she would be able to come back with something other condescending mush, but alas, no. The original post could have meant 3 things: (1) he/she was a card-carrying member of the liberal Hate America first club; (2) he/she was championing minorities and their mistreatment 200 years ago, which I find strange when they tell us we can't go back 20 years to support a position; or (3) he/she was comparing what happened with Native Americans and blacks in our past to what happened to the Jews during the Holocaust, which is absolutely ridiculous, they are nowhere near the same. Since he/she came back in a post with how he/she *I generally avoid using the racial/ethnic I'm being picked on because of my race/country of origin/gender/you name it cliche also but I'll make an exception in your case.* so I don't much think she champions minorities very much...that rules out #2. I am leaning real hard toward #1, but after some of her later posts, it could well be #3. Or a combination of #1 and #3. I am still waiting for her to give me the name of one of those several countries she said she knew about who did not have any kind of mistreatment of their own citizens at some point in their history. I didn't ask for several, I just asked for one. Have a good day, AG!

9-11 Inside job
You posted a laundry list. Can you support any of that? Where did this come from? What is your source?
Uh oh...LLD :-) see inside
good post.  I agree.      with just one exception...I think there ought to be something included in the program that makes allowances for the cost of living where the recepient lives.  At least some kind of adjustment to level the playing field.  I know someone can get decent housing where I used to live in Oklahoma much more reasonably than they can were I now live in the Northeast...so a bigger chunk out of the $80 grand where I live now than where I used to live.  What do you feel about that?  (not baiting you, really interested)  That is basically why I did not think expanding the program higher up the income ladder was a good idea...that coupled with it needing to be fixed to get illegals out of it and from more illegals getting on it. 
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1. Yes.

2. Most of them, yes, they have been needed, whether you or I think so or not.

3. Yes, although McCain will not be exactly that same kind of leadership.

Why?

At this point in time, this country is still in need of the Republicans (or what is posing as Republican this election year, as McCain is more of a centrist than true Republican, much to my chagrin). However, he has what we need, at this point in time.

If he's smart, McCain will chose Romney as his VP, as economy is sorely in need of someone who knows what they're doing.

Obama, is not what we need. He cannot fix anything, has not ever run anything, has no real experience, and quite frankly, I have no desire to have a socialistic pseudo-communist president, thank you very much.

My gut feeling tells me that Obama is not presidential material, period, no matter how much the liberal media tries to coronate him and cram him down our throats. (Hillary isn't prez material either, by the way...too much baggage, and "it's my turn" mentality)

I am an Independent, have voted for all parties, at one time or another (even though it may pain me to say I voted for Anderson, lo all those years ago...lol...in hindsight, I should have voted Reagan.)

But believe me, if Obama was the real deal, I would be right there for him, but sadly, he is not. He has made too many fatal errors of late, the most recent was caving to the Clintons and giving them free reign over the DNC. He is not a true leader, in my eyes.

He will not win in November, mark my words.
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Seriously, I believe that all the things that enable a person to endure such torture over an extended period of time builds character and traits that are essential to leadership. So if you put 5 years in a prison camp up
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Her youngest son is named Trig Paxson Van Palin. After Trig was born, a spokesperson for Palin said that Trig is Norse for true and brave victory. His middle name, Paxson, is the name of an area of Alaska that Palin and her husband think is "one of the most beautiful spots in Alaska," according to a report on MSNBC.

Palin is on record joking that she was naming Trig "Van Palin" after eighties rockers Van Halen.

Bristol, Palin's oldest daughter, 17, means "meeting place by the bridge," according to thinkbabynames.com. Bristol is Old English and is the name of an important town in England, which many US cities were named after as well. It has not ranked in the top 1000 baby names in the US in the last 100 years. Bristol is also the name of a bay in Alaska where Palin's brother-in-law is a fisherman.

I have not found out about the rest yet.

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I kinda like that name ... ROTFL

ok .. I'm finding this is difficult to put into words.

It's his tone of voice and his mannerisms at times. It's his attitude about why things are as bad as they are -- it's like he wants to blame Bush solely for it ALL, and that is just not the way this country operates.

I guess my answer is it is just my gut reaction to him.

I'm sure this is not an an adequate explanation (going to put the flame suit on, LOL)).

I sincerely apologize for not giving you a better answer, maybe later I can. I have to go to work now..

really gone this time!
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“I make [decisions] as quickly as I can, quicker than the other fellow, if I can. Often my haste is a mistake, but I live with the consequences without complaint.”
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Slash teen pregnancy funding:
Washington Post’s false accusation that Gov. Sarah Palin “slashed” funding for a teen pregnancy program, when in reality, there was “over a threefold increase from the government funds they received from all sources in 2006 (FY2006 ending 12/31/06).”

She and her husband each owned 20% of the car wash so it was not controlling interest. Who owned the controlling interest?

Don't know about the books...everything I read that was on a blog and basically said she asked the question, but it can't be verified that I can find.
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It seems to me you would like to justify how "innocent" this is by posting a link of someone who said "don't read into this". I know the poster isn't actually linking the two together, but there are a lot of "less informed" people who read Osama bin laden and Obama/Biden...yup, gotta be the same, they must be alike, Obama must be a terrorist. Believe me they are out there because I have read different web sites (can't remember where) that were saying they were connected together. This is why I take offense at it. Because there are stup!d people who can't tell the difference. Besides...this subject already came up with a big uproar the last time. How many times are we going to keep posting the same thing. And the last time it came up the poster said it was "freaky" and this is what this poster said so it leads me to believe its the same poster that wants to keep stirring up a hornets nest. When someone is offended by a post why can't others just say "I'm sorry it offended you" and drop it. That's all I'm asking to drop it. Not bring it up every other day or so.
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http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

http://www.charlotteconservative.com/index.php/2008/02/global-warming-wrong-again/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

http://www.oism.org/pproject/



There's a lot of scientists against global warming. Inform yourselves of the facts, not scare tactics by the media and AL Gore.

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Its like the inquisition is in full gear once again.

I guess Pagan would be a good way to describe me. I believe that life is in everything. I love going into the woods and just sitting by the trees by myself and listening to the earth spirits talk to me. I respect Mother Earth and all her beautiful gifts she gives us. The last time I went into a church the hair on my neck stood up. Never went back there.
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"Most partial-birth abortions are performed in the fifth and sixth months of pregnancy. Even early in the fifth month, babies who are expelled by premature labor will often be born alive. At that stage the baby's lungs are too undeveloped to permit sustained survival, but if the baby draws breath it is a LIVE BIRTH." To my definition, the 5th or 6th month is late-term. Semantics maybe.

Even with the existing partial birth abortion ban, it is still recognized as a procedure that can be used to save the life of the mother, even though no physician will go on record saying they EVER had an instance where that procedure was necessary to save the life of the mother.

That is why the baby is turned around so that it is breech, so that the brain can be collapsed inside the mother...because if the head comes first and it takes a breath it is considered a live birth and protected by the Constitution like the rest of us...until the practice of infanticide came along and was practiced until that nurse in Illinois threw a fit and brought it to public attention.

So I am not wrong, and it is not a lie.




Here it is (inside) ... the one from
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http://www.obamacrimes.com/attachments/028_Obama,%20Motion%20for%20Leave%20and%20First%20Amended%20Complaint.pdf


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I can't find a video on it, however, it made the rounds on news shows today....

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/sfgate/detail?blogid=14&entry_id=31736
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Yes, McCain has a refundable tax credit for health insurance. Is it aimed at a specific income group? No. Does it eliminate anyone's tax liability? No it doesn't. It isn't welfare.

Obama's refundable tax cut says specifically it will eliminate federal taxes for 10 million low income workers. People who heretofore WERE paying taxes, you have assured me repeatedly. Taxing "the rich" more to make up for that loss of revenue is marxist redistribution of wealth. There is nothing remotely like that in McCain's credit. It is basically welfare...giving a tax credit to eliminate taxes and making up the lost revenue by taxing others who make more.

You explain to me how that is NOT redistribution of wealth. He said it himself. Spreading the wealth. At least he IS honest about it.
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First off, when you have a private conversation with a sitting president, it should remain private. One should be able to keep private, sensitive matters private...or in other words, to be able to keep your mouth shut.

Does anyone really want so much transparency that we know exactly what goes on every time Obama sits down to talk to a world leader, especially when it comes to our enemies? Does anyone really think world leaders will want to sit down and be honest with someone that leaks their conversations out right after they've had them?

But if it's "transparency" that you want, then Obama in this case, was just trying to make Bush look bad. But it blew up on him, and he had to retract.


This paragraph tells the lie. The first report of the leak was that they "horse traded"...see below...when in reality, no such think occurred, and the white house made them retract, as the articles state.


Barack Obama's transition team described as inaccurate news reports that irked President Bush claiming that the two had been horse trading over signing a second economic stimulus bill in exchange for congressional passage of the Colombia Free Trade deal.



But you know what, I really do give up. Obama supporters will never find any fault whatsoever with anything that he does. He's not perfect, and I just wish his supporters would at least agree that he's human, and that he's going to make mistakes.




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Amanda, I'll try one more time. Only two people were in that room. Bush and Obama.

Obama came out of this first, private, oval office meeting and what was leaked to the press was that Obama urged Bush to get relief to the auto indutry and a stimulus plan I believe. Obama said that Bush said he would only do it if the Columbia trade agreement was pushed through Congress first.



So.


There is no way Bush or Bush aides would leak any of this information.



This information came from Obama. From a private conversation. To Obama aides. Who leaked this to the press. Who lied and said that Bush wanted the Columbia trade agreement signed before he would sign any other agreements.



This was a lie.


The White House was upset and asked for a retraction, as it was a lie.



It was retracted. By the Obama camp.




I personally do not want such transparency from a president. It shows me what little character he has.



I know it seems different to an Obama supporter.


So with that, good night. I don't blame you or the just the big bad poster for not being able to see what I see.



Night and take care.


Please don't anyone bash me, I can't take it anymore..............
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Careful, Just me, we'll be called racist if try to link the O to treason. Not that I disagree with you at all........
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In the realm of religious fanaticism a whirling Dervish was somebody who spun round and round until they got so dizzy they entered a prophetic state.  This is what is also known as an obot. 
Found it. See inside.

I'm forwarding this to Alan Combs, Greta Van Sustern (sp) and Bill O'Rielly.  Thanks.


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AIKEN -- The 6-year-old Aiken girl who'd been dead for up to 14 hours before being taken to a hospital was beaten to death, authorities said Thursday.


And the woman who called Chaquise Gregory her life and her baby is being charged with homicide in the child's death.






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Aiken County Department of Public Safety officers lead a handcuffed Kathy Salley away from her residence in the 500 block of Abbeville Avenue. She is charged with homicide by child abuse.

Aiken police arrested Kathy Salley, 26, at her Aiken home Thursday evening and booked her into the Aiken County Deten¤tion Center.


She'll be charged with homicide by child abuse this morning, Aiken Public Safety Sgt. David Turno said.


Police arrested Ms. Salley on an outstanding warrant for fraudulent checks to get her in jail, he said.


An autopsy found that Chaquise, who'd moved to a home in the 500 block of Abbeville Avenue in Aiken with Ms. Salley in May or early June, died from a severe beating, he said.


Authorities had already revealed that Chaquise had been dead between 10 and 14 hours when Ms. Salley took her to an Aiken hospital June 23.


"That's all we can tell you," Sgt. Turno said. "I do not believe they're going to go into the full evidence of the case, but we do know it was from a severe beating."


Aiken County Coroner Tim Carlton said he couldn't release many details about what killed Chaquise, except that the beating "caused some internal-type malfunction in the body that caused her death."


Mr. Carlton said there were no drugs found in the child's system, but "there were some older injuries that we're looking into that may or may not have been related to previous abuse."


The autopsy found no broken bones, but there was evidence of past breaks.


Mr. Carlton said the initial results indicate that the child was not sexually abused, but he would not rule it out completely.


She was not molested "that I'm aware of at this point," he said.


Capt. Maryann Burgess, who has been the investigator in the case, said she can't say how many others may have been involved in Chaquise's death or what charges they face.


"We know where they are," she said.


She said investigators also have not been able to verify that Ms. Salley had legal custody of Chaquise, which she claimed.


If convicted of homicide by child abuse, Ms. Salley faces between 20 years in prison and a life sentence.


In an interview with The Augus¤ta Chronicle on June 27 - five days after Chaquise was pronounced dead - Ms. Salley denied any wrongdoing in her death. Ms. Salley said she'd raised Chaquise since she was 3 years old.


"She was the only child I could ever have," she said, and questioned how the girl's biological family could think she was responsible.


Ms. Salley hinted that another person living with her and Chaquise - and who m she said she'd left the child with the night before - may have had something to do with the little girl's death.


"I can't point fingers when I don't know what went on in this house while I was gone," she'd said.


According to preliminary autopsy results that were released soon after her death, Chaquise had been dead between 10 and 14 hours before Ms. Salley took her to Aiken Regional Medical Centers.


Capt. Burgess said the additional autopsy results she received Wednesday led to Ms. Salley's arrest.


Ms. Salley told The Chronicle that authorities found bruises on Chaquise's arm and bottom, and cigarette burns on her shoulder and back.


Mr. Carlton said investigators are still trying to determine whether those marks were cigarette burns.


"It's just a tragic incident that was visited on a defenseless child," Mr. Carlton said. "And if the allegations are all true, then we certainly hope that the law and criminal justice system will be the defender of this child's rights."


You might be right, on the other hand. (see inside)

Message inside.

I thought so, too, when I first read it, but there's a whole website dedicated to nothing but this kind of hatefulness. How could anyone communicate reasonably, intelligently and productively with a follower of this kind of religion? 


Sad, isn't it?


Again... WHERE DID I SAY I HAVE AN INSIDE TRACK?

What you copied and pasted was an opinion which I stated.


Nowhere in any of my posts do I claim to have an *inside track* to anything.  That's YOUR ridiculous claim, not mine!


see link inside...........sm
http://www.hermes-press.com/BushSaud.htm
actually there is a message inside above..nm