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Don't waste your energy trying to engage

Posted By: rational people in this foolishness...sm on 2008-12-04
In Reply to: No you DON'T get it - Everyone should be interested

I don't argue with brick walls.


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Stop. Don't waste your energy.
victim mentality they probably couldn't escape it even if they wanted to. They cannot separate the truth from the propaganda they have been fed. If they think the report pertains to them, perhaps they are really rightwing extremists.
O is not going to engage in torture. He does not
believe in torture.
Bush's and Cheney's way DID NOT WORK.

How can you say that I am naive, maybe you are. Who knows?

Time will tell.

I can only pray, hope and wish that O will be successful in protecting and promoting the United States of America.
Typical when somebody tries to engage you in debate
you show them the door like you are the princess of this palace or something.
You haven't tried to engage in a debate.

All you've done is attack.  We don't care for that low class type of behavior on this board.  We want this to be a friendly, respectful place, but you and all the others from the CON board (assuming there actually are different people and not just difference voices in someone's head), can't stand respectful. You can't stand friendly.  You're not happy unless you're intruding on someone else's space and bullying them.


You're just very distasteful people, and you have your own board.  Please take your dumps over there.  It's really starting to reek over here.  <PHEW!>


Oh and you didn't engage in any McCain...
bashing did you? Not like you to be so hypocritical. Obama himself is why I will be easily voting a straight Republican ticket for the first time in my life. Not a thing any of you "dems" had to say. ALL him. Sure not going to blame it on anonymous posters on a posting board...lol.

Funny how you say good night everyone...and then bash "pubs" in your parting shot.

lol.
Before opening mouth - engage brain.
You're calling Palin an "under-educated butt?"

And your great accompishment is that you know how to type on a message board? What a maroon!

Please feel free to exit the country when McCain/Palin win. You and your tiny little mind will not be missed.


Around the world 150 at least countries engage in torrture and it is
kept more or less secret. Only if the human rights groups interfere it gets publicized.

'Under U.S. law, the War Crimes Act of 1996 makes it a federal crime to violate certain provisions of the Geneva Conventions. The Act punishes any American, military or civilian, who commits a "grave breach" of the Geneva Conventions. A grave breach, as defined by the Geneva Conventions, includes the deliberate "killing, torture or inhuman treatment" of detainees. Violations of the War Crimes Act that result in death carry the death penalty.'

Read what the Vatican says about the torture in
Abu Ghraib...

“ The torture? A more serious blow to the United States than September 11, 2001 attacks. Except that the blow was not inflicted by terrorists but by Americans against themselves.'
— Archbishop Giovanni Lajolo, foreign minister of the Vatican.'

In Abu Ghraib 99 percent of the prisoners were innocent and were tortured and many killed.
As retaliation there was a wave of beheadings after the torture pictures of the Abu Ghraib inmates were made public.

Why publish more pictures? To endanger the troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan even more? No.




North Korea: Engage, Appease, Oppose

A little bit of history on North Korea and the dilemma. Read the rest of the article from the link below.


"So it's another step backwards again with North Korea.


In defiance of a Security Council resolution (1718) passed after its first nuclear test in 2006, it has now announced a second. It has also implied that it has solved some at least of the problems it encountered in the first.


The actual technical achievement remains to be examined. But the test itself represents a continued belligerency whose destination is unknown. "


 


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8066719.stm


Truly, someone like this is not worth the energy.
There is no logical thought behind their posts.  Calling me a racist is a silly immature infantile leftist ploy.  We know that.  I learned a long time ago to ignore posters such as this. 
Ok, no more 5-hour energy for you...lol (sm)
While I usually agree with most of your posts, because I tend to flip flop a little between left and right myself, I am sure that conspiracy theory is incorrect. I don't think Obama is going to just be a martyr for the democratic party.  I actually think that regardless of which candidate wins there will be a danger of assassination.  It doesn't take the majority to be racist, it just takes one nutjob really. But really I think you were up too late and hyped up a bit too much and letting your mind wander a little too far.  I am sure there were lots of reasons Biden was chosen but no, that hypothesis you stated is kinda too far out there.
How about spending all that energy doing
Sorry if you call what you have been doing work, but it shouldn't surprise me. Most O lovers aren't worried about hard work, just free money.
Thank you so much for your concern about my energy level.

Too bad this poster doesn't put this much energy
she probably is up there amongst the well-to-do. Maybe a rich man's wifey, who never has to lift a finger.
Ya really need to read the article...yes they do take up a lot of energy...sm
if she's going to brag about her *credentials* on energy and I use the term loosely, then she'd better set the example. A tanning bed is no toaster and completely unnecessary in anyone's home along with the jet she got rid of at a half million dollar loss.

Next thing you know she'll be wearing $300,000 skirts also.

She needs to practice what she preaches.
SP's energy policies demonstrate

1.  Sarah's socialism is fine and dandy for Alaska:  "...and Alaska - we're set up, UNLIKE other states in the union, where it's collectively Alaskans own the resources. So we SHARE THE WEALTH when the development of these resources occurs"... boasting to a reporter of having been able to send a check for $1,200 to every man, woman and child in the state since, "Alaska is sometimes described as America's socialist state, because of its collective ownership of resources.”


2.  She agrees with Obama's windfall profits concept...a windfall profit, by any other name, is...well, a windfall profit.


3.  Sarah is a hypocrite.


4.  Sarah can articulate the shrub's oil policies even more precisely that her running mate. 


 


You know, I'm all for alternative energy sources....sm
But there are unintended consequences to everything.

The windfarms that they have as an experiment here in eastern Montana, have killed hundreds of birds and over a thousand bats.

This is not good. It reminds me of all the honeybees that are disappearing around the world. I lean towards the cell phone tower theory on the bees, that somehow it is disorienting them, and killing them, before they can return to their hives....maybe even contributing to the fungus that some scientists say have killed the bees.


This year, we didn't think our bats were going to show up, and we wondered where they were. We usually have one or two that show up in June, and take up residence under our eaves, and behind our thermostat on the deck. We see them fly at sunset, and they eat upwards of 1200 insects an hour.....if the bats disappear, the insects will remain, and who knows what the unintended consequences may be....


Just food for thought.....


http://www.windaction.org/news/16470
Good...maybe we can finally get an energy
policy that relieves us from OPEC, et.al., and save our 700B a year!  Will be tough but the tough will get going again.  We need to fix the railroads to transport goods economically rather than trucking everything.  Sorry to the truckers but we have to get smart again.
Palin on energy savings...see article...sm

Governor's mansion had personal tanning bed for Palin.  So much for saving energy...lol


http://narconews.com/Issue54/article3191.html


EIA Energy Information Sheets on Oil Production

 


http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/infosheets/crudeproduction.html


I forgot to add I like what she says about energy and drilling and not being dependent on other coun
She is a very strong woman and I have every confidence in her she will be a great VP and even great President if it came down to it.

Go McCain/Palin.
Clean Energy Fuels and Nancy Pelosi

My, must be nice. Trying to pass a bill for clean energy and who is going to profit from this? T. Boone Pickens owns Clean Energy Fuels. Nancy and her husband bought #50K-$100K worth of stock in May 2007. No wonder she's pushing it. It means a fortune for her.


Another site states her husband bought the shares alone, but she lives in CA where it's share and share alike.


http://selfinvestors.com/tradingstocks/news/the-pelosi-pickens-profit-plan-with-clean-energy-fuels-clne/


http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=72225


WHAT THE HECK? Obama says himself, "I will make energy prices skyrocket"

Read, listen, and weep.  Right from his own mouth.  He now states this 2 days before election.  No wonder he wanted earlier voters.  He did say he needs to kill people's expectations if him being president.  No kidding.  Sorry you ya, I will be blaming the one's who vote for O for this.  This guy is CRAZY.  He FREAKS ME OUT.  There is something not right with him and this whole picture and his motive.  He says that is why we should have energy efficient lightbulbs and efficient appliances to help with the skyrocket of electricity?    


http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/02/obama-ill-make-energy-prices-skyrocket/


http://blog.topicaltopics.net/2008/11/obama-says-electricity-rates-would-skyrocket/


http://www.poligazette.com/2008/11/02/obama-ill-cause-energy-prices-to-skyrocket/


 


I just don't have the energy to fight anymore, I guess. This was lame attempt!
I need to work anyway. 
Waste? (sm)
So, in this bill are provisions to improve education, rebuild and upgrade our energy grid, improve transportion and infrastructure that is sooo needed, lowers the cost of healthcare, and the list goes on and on.   All of these things benefit future generations.  My personal favorite project is research and development into alternative fuels.  This will provide a completely new industry for future generations as well as reduce our dependency on foreign oil.  In case you haven't noticed, current production of just about everything in the US is diminishing.  Is that what we want to leave our kids?--- a dwindling country?  Yeah, its expensive...very expensive.  But the alternative is to do nothing, and that definately will not help future generations.
And you're an MT? Wow - what a waste of your
!
For me, I won't waste my breath saying anything to you, Sam, since you are always right!!!!!
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You might as well not waste your time!
:D
I refuse to waste my

time reading biased, inaccurate opinions. Got a prob with that? Yours only.


 


Don't waste your time, JBB
Trying to reason with someone who has an imaginary sense of "reality" is an exercise in futility.
seriously, what a waste of time. NM
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Please... don't waste your key strokes on these people.

They only come here to incite, to insult, to spread their hatred and rage all over this board.  It's physically impossible for them to stay on the Conservative board because they all agree, and they're not happy unless they can be vile and nasty and mean and stomp people into the ground, all the time wrapping themselves in the Bible and the flag.  They have posted bait on the Conservative board, and when nobody bites, they migrate to the Liberal board to get their daily fixes of hate mongering.  It must somehow make them feel like they have some power in their pitiful, mundane, unimportant, moronic little lives.


My suggestion is that we don't even read their posts.  Let them see that their posts were read 0 times, with no replies.  We are providing the fuel for their hatred every time we read or respond to one of their hateful posts. 


They simply aren't worth the click of the mouse.


Don't waste your breath explaining it to them
They will only interpret everything you say as bashing. All logic is lost on some people.

Better than the waste products of your posting...
gutter level would elevate them. And to think that I annoy you...frankly makes my day. Thanks for sharing.
Responding to you is a waste of my time.
I do not waste my time responding to your political posts, and I will not waste my time arguing semantics with you. I would not associate with you in my personal life, and you are not worth my time and energy on this forum. I am afraid you will have to find someone else to listen to your nonsense.
dont waste your time on the
Federal Reserve Fox ploy . . . they are trying to make you lose the scent.  Research Republican history of deregulation. Making the government so small they can drown it in the bathtub. Research McCain's countless statements of being pro-deregulation. Research the safeguards built into the system after the Great Depression and how they were dismantled by the republicans in the name of "free market forces." 
It would be a waste of time to try to address
Do you folks never tire of being scared and scaring each other? There is bigotry and there is racism, both of which pervaded during this election cycle in the media and at pub rallies. To deny this is so is truly beyond ridiculous. Yours is a very small, dark world view, unfounded in reality and not worthy of further comment.
Waste of time and money!
Mailing hundreds, thousands, or hundreds of thousands of red envelopes is a waste of time and money. It is not going to have any effect on the abortion law, and the only winner is the post office. Can't you people think of more constructive ways to support a cause?
While I'm sure Mrs. Bridger will waste more oxygen
in feeling she must respond to this post, Obama has thumbed his nose at this country. Common sense is obviously something he was NOT born with, as well as many other O lovers who are obviously so depleted of oxygen, they are following him like little lost sheep to the slaughter. Saving thousands of Americans isn't his top priority; you'll see that more and more as time goes on. He's so busy playing buddy buddy with countries that will NEVER be a buddy to the U.S.,he has forgotten what his job really is, to look out for us first, not worry about befriending (what a joke that is) every terrorist leader out there.
Waste of time, postage, and tea!
Don't you people have anything more important to do with your time and energy? Go volunteer to help those less fortunate than yourselves. You might even get some self-esteem out of it.
Sure, it is not a waste to acquire any skill

and I think being able to speak more than one language is a good thing.  However, why is it that we must become bilingual in our own country to accommodate people who will not become bilingual when they move to our country?


'A mind is a terrible thing to waste'. - Unfortunately,

Why voting in the US is a complete waste of time

I've said it for years and years.  This is an excellent article. 


http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article7095.html


 


 


I guess they know it is a waste of breath rehash...sm
the same old things over and over. I think most of the dems are probably on another board discussing real issues instead of some fantasy world. I see a pattern of poisonous pablum being fed and swallowed whole.
Might as well not waste time talking to the haters.
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But Obama's plan is a joke! So much waste and
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Waste 101- Hannity haters, do not read

Although I'm not a big fan of Hannity, he had a countdown last night. I'd like to know how does landscaping certain hotels, buildings, etc. contribute to jobs? What happened to the infrastructure spending for roads and bridges that was to create jobs...even though those jobs would be temporary, some projects would have given a year or two of work. It still seems like these jobs are "once and done" jobs.


Even Microsoft gets a bridge across a highway so the workers have easier access to their other building across the highway. Why, since he's #2(?) in Forbes, couldn't he pay for it himself?


Hopefully, this list will be on line soon. It's not there yet.


The total for the 101 stimulus spending was $1,234,631,672. The good news is at least we know where some of the stimulus/omnibus money is going.


Cutting waste, fraud and abuse...They should be

Don't waste your breath. No one with a modicum of sense can honestly
believe these things. Some folks just like to stir the pot. Besides, look how the conservatives have cannibalized themselves in the elections past and have attempted to do so this year (claims in South Carolina of McCain being a traitor, etc.).

Some people will only ever see what they want to see. Unfortunately, they are victimized by those that play into their prejudices and fears.
Please do not waste our time with lies and insane allegations! nm
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Waste of time to argue with a simple mind
Here, I'll throw you a bone.......Palin.....ATTACK!!!!

It is waste alright! You dont spend taxpayer money
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