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Gourdpainter, I agree with you. So do most people since Obama is ahead of McCain.

Posted By: pc on 2008-10-07
In Reply to: Scary - gourdpainter

McCain doesn't have any solutions except trying to get Palin to tear down Obama with her big mouth.




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McCain ahead according to Gallup...
Gallup Daily: McCain Moves Ahead, 48% to 45% September 7, 2008

A lot of the hysterical people at McCain rallies these days are Obama plants....
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I know that Gourdpainter will not agree,
but part of the problem is the ridiculously high wages that American manufacturer employees get in contrast to the foreign manufacturers with plants her in the US, which is because of the unions. With higher wages comes higher overhead and higher prices. They cannot sell cars at competitive prices because their employees make too much money. It is unfortunate, but I think that a lower paying job is better than no job at all.
obama ahead by 15 points

Talk is cheap.  See, I can just pull statements out of my bellybutton also.


 


obama is ahead in all major

polls. Sympathy not required.


 


Go ahead and trust Obama, then.
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Not to worry. Obama is ahead
The sky will not be falling on December 15th.
Looking Ahead to the Obama Presidency.....sm


Looking Ahead to the Obama Presidency
Written by John F. McManus
Wednesday, 26 November 2008 00:40




Barack Obama's and Joe Biden's own records and agendas show the direction they have in mind for the nation.

Without doubt, the election of Barack Obama is historic because he is the first Black American selected by voters for the highest office in the land. Indeed, the election of an African-American to the presidency by a nation with a majority white population may be unprecedented, and the fact that this is possible should be a source of pride for all of us, regardless of whether Obama himself was a good or bad choice.

An articulate and confident young man, Obama's presence in the White House will be welcomed by many. Along with his oratorical skills and appealing vitality, his family will remind older Americans of the John F. Kennedy era when a telegenic and appealing wife and two charming youngsters accompanied the newly elected president into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

What will the Obama presidency be like? Throughout a campaign stretching back for almost two years, the Illinois senator regularly employed the word "change," and the word even morphed into "change we can believe in." The posters, oratory, television ads, and pronouncements of several Obama staffers repeatedly issued unspecified pledges that this new and different candidate would alter the course America was following.

"Blueprint for Change"

But how would America's course be altered? Even though the American people could have read online what an Obama-Biden administration promised, most failed to do so. Much of the agenda, albeit without a lot of detail, is contained in Blueprint for Change, the 83-page document subtitled "Plan for America" issued by the Obama-Biden team. As we shall see, the "change" envisioned by the Blueprint includes more government at home and a continuation of our interventionist foreign policy abroad.

Of course, America has been moving in the direction of more and bigger government for decades, regardless of whether a Republican or Democrat has been in the White House. Obama hopes to move us even further in the big-government direction. What kind of change is that?

Even many Americans who recognize that Obama will push for more government at home believe that he will end our interventionist foreign policy because of the opposition he has expressed to the Iraq War. But this conclusion flies in the face of his proposal to transfer troops to Afghanistan (in essence transferring the Iraq War to a different theater) and his support for international arrangements, including expansion of NATO.

Please consider the following positions as they appear in the pages of the revealing "blueprint" document and judge for yourself how much change there will be and whether the recommended "change" would be a good thing. (Comments following each quoted item are ours.)

• "Emergency Economic Plan to Inject Immediate Relief into the Economy." Both Obama and Biden voted for the $700 billion bailout (along with John McCain). More bailouts will likely follow.

• "Provide a $1,000 Emergency Energy Rebate to American Families." Government giving money to everyone, as was done with the 2008 rebate, doesn't solve any problems. These funds either have to be printed (the root cause of inflation) or borrowed, likely from China, which puts our nation's neck in a noose. The interest that is compounding on our already enormous debt is a toxic time bomb. The government will eventually resort to massive inflation to pay the debt or collateralize the debt with American assets; in which case, those now holding our bonds will end up owning America.

• "Invest in the Manufacturing Sector." America's manufacturers need relief from the stifling array of taxes and regulations, and from the steady erosion of the dollar brought on by debilitating inflation, not government handouts that are always followed by government control. A 2006 study by the Competitive Enterprise Institute entitled "Ten Thousand Commandments" found that the federal regulatory burden on U.S. businesses amounted to $1.13 trillion. This burden is killing American businesses, productivity, innovation, and jobs.

• "Create 5 Million New Green Jobs." This will be done, says the Blueprint, by investing "$150 billion over 10 years to advance the next generation of biofuels and fuel infrastructure, accelerate the commercialization of plug-in hybrids, promote development of commercial scale renewable energy," etc. In other words, politicians and bureaucrats would create government jobs and subsidize private-sector jobs that should be financed by the private sector (and would be if they were economically viable). Government should get out of the way and let free Americans create jobs.

• "Create a National Infrastructure Reinvestment Bank." This promise includes an infusion of $60 billion more in federal spending.

• "Give the Federal Reserve Greater Supervisory Authority." The Federal Reserve, which already wields enormous, unconstitutional powers, is a destructive engine of inflation and should hardly be given greater authority. As Nobel Prize-winning economist Milton Friedman has recommended, it should be abolished, not enhanced.

• "Pressure the World Trade Organization to Enforce Trade Agreements." Granting the UN's WTO even more authority is another step toward global governance. The WTO is already exercising judicial jurisdiction over sovereign nations, overruling national laws and legislatures, including the laws and the Congress of the United States. Congress and President Bush have weakly protested these usurpations — and then meekly accepted them.

• "Guarantee Affordable, Accessible Health Care for Every American." Healthcare costs have risen dramatically because of already existing government intervention. A national healthcare system would swell the cost while making healthcare hard to obtain, as such plans have done everywhere they have been instituted.

• "Barack Obama has fought for comprehensive immigration reform." Ultimately, what this means is amnesty for as many as 20 million illegal aliens in our nation.

• "High Quality Zero-to-Five Education." The Obama plan actually calls for "early care and education for infants in a Zero to 5 Plan," more government for K-12, federal support for afterschool programs, and more grants for those who move on to college.

• "Double our annual investment in foreign assistance ... to $50 billion.... Invest at least $50 billion [annually] by 2013 for the global fight against HIV/AIDS." With record deficits and a soaring National Debt, America is, in effect, giving away borrowed money.

The above constitute only a sampling of the pledges for more programs, more spending, and more government powers contained in the 83 pages of the Blueprint for Change. And the official Obama-Biden Internet website provides several hundred more pages of details, all pointing toward plans for a vast expansion of the federal government. Less than a week after the election, Georgia Congressman Paul Broun (R) told an audience in his district the president-elect shows "signs of being a Marxist." Perhaps Broun had read the Obama-Biden Blueprint, a rather obvious call for socialism in the United States. And perhaps Broun knows that, in addition to Marx's well-publicized association with communism, Karl Marx is also the godfather of socialism.

Although he didn't mention his own party, we should point out that Rep. Broun's criticism of Obama's apparent Marxist bent applies also to many Republicans. In fact, in October, President Bush and many Republican members of Congress rolled out the Socialist Express to push through the bailout package. Take it from Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez, a self-proclaimed socialist, who congratulated Bush for joining the socialist club, and then chided him and his allies for applying a double standard. "How many times have they criticized me for nationalizing the phone company?" he asked. "They say, 'The state shouldn't get involved in that.' But now they don't criticize Bush for having nationalize[d] ... the biggest banks in the world. Comrade Bush, how are you?"

Expanding the UN

The United Nations Association of the United States is the most determined promoter of the UN within our nation. Early in 2008, its leaders sent a questionnaire to all presidential candidates. Barack Obama displayed his strong commitment to the world body and to its various sovereignty-compromising programs in his responses, some of which follow:

• "No country has a greater stake in a strong United Nations than the United States."

• "I have pledged to create a [UN-promoted] cap on carbon emissions in the United States."

• "I fully support the [UN] Millennium Development Goals."

In the year 2000, the 189 member nations of the UN adopted the Millennium Development Goals, a program of eight goals to aid developing countries. Our share of funding these goals could total hundreds of billions of dollars in just a few years. Senator Barack Obama introduced S. 2433 in 2007. Labeled the "Global Poverty Act," this proposal seeks to require our nation to "achieve the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of the people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than one dollar per day." Five months later, Senator Biden offered minor amendments to the bill as he co-signed it. Obviously, these two senators — and the handful of others they have enlisted to back their proposal — believe the American people should pony up enormous sums of money sought by the UN in another program that would empower the world body and further enrich corrupt foreign dictators while doing little to improve the plight of the world's poor.

Based on their stated positions and track records, it is reasonable to expect that Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and the team they will select to staff the new administration won't even consider less government and a mind-your-own-business foreign policy to be options. Their agenda, if implemented, would speed the growth of the federal government, accelerate the surrender of America's independence, and hasten our nation down the path toward submergence in what internationalists euphemistically refer to as "global governance" by various supranational institutions, of which the UN, the WTO, and the IMF are among the most noteworthy. For more information about the power brokers who have helped formulate Obama's agenda and who will be running the Obama-Biden administration, see "Behind the Obama Agenda."





http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/543-looking-ahead-to-the-obama-presidency
I agree, gourdpainter, to a point....
but one thing I DO know...Obama and a majority democrat congress mean socialism. There are no two ways about it. And I DON'T want socialism for America. So I would not vote for Obama, and if I vote for a third party and NOT McCain, that is a vote for Obama. I will NOT be a party to putting that man in the White House. No way, no how.

I am a registered Independent. I have not been a party faithful for several years. But I am concerned enough about Obama and his agenda that I am voting a straight Republican ticket for the FIRST time in my life. THAT is how much I DO NOT want him and his agenda for this country.

I agree with McCain on some things "he says." If he does them, fine. If he doesn't, we still don't get socialism. If McCain just gets elected and the status quo remains, we don't get socialism.

I don't want socialism. I don't know how much more clear I need to be about it.
I sadly enough agree with you Gourdpainter
I think the ugliness has barely begun.  Truth will out in the end, it always does.
I agree that Sam's and Gourdpainter's posts showed the differences (sm)
between the two candidates but I think you are absolutely clueless when it comes to your judgement. Sam's posts are always backed by facts. No one is her "follower." We who are voting for McCain are often grateful that she takes the time to find these facts and post them for all to see. While I can appreciate your admiration for Gourdpainter, your insults to Sam are completely unfounded and uncalled for. You Obama-backers are always looking for proof---show me some proof that Sam's posts are garbage. Proof please?
According to Bill O'Reilly...Obama moving ahead in polls! (nm)

I agree neither choice is great, but will vote McCain just as a vote against Obama. nm
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Why are you McCain people so desperate? You are just like McCain. No plan. Just criticism of the
other candidate.  I guess you want the same old thing we have had for the past 8 years.  God forbid McCain win with that wild woman, Palin.
Gourdpainter. I cannot support Obama, but whoever
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No, gourdpainter...it's gonna be Obama ruling....make no mistake....
Obama and the democratic congress.

I think it's highly doubtful Hillary will pass muster to be SOS, since Bill has too many shady dealings with China and the Saudis, and who knows who else he has taken/is taking money from, and selling our national secrets to (or did, in the case of China with our military secrets).

As for Bush, don't know how you get him thrown in the equation, unless someone named Bush has been appointed....I'm working too much to pay close attention...


But, as I said, make no mistake. No matter who Obama appoints, it's gonna be him and his socialist/marxist agenda....Obama and his far left agenda to the max.....


I'm hiding for the next four years......
McCain is concerned about the people . . .
right after Palin gets her photo ops with world leaders and his poll numbers start going down including FoxNews poll and his campaign manager's firm gets caught taking money for "consulting" that was never done and . . .
You just attacked all of the McCain people
in your post, so yes you are a hypocrite. You expect nobody to respond to that? You could have just e-mailed her with that personal post.
In my opinion, McCain is just as bad as the terrorist people because he obviously just wants to get
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No more than I agree with everything McCain says.
That was my point.
The "level-headed" people here voted for McCain.
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I agree - McCain is a wolf.
Making promises he won't (or can't keep), offering tax breaks that won't amount to anything (his 1% rich friends will still get more than they need) and we will be given scraps hoping that appeases us, keeping the war going, oil companies will continue to profit, housing market will continue to decline, banks and brokerages will continue to be bailed out all while the American people suffer for it. We will be led into a depression before his time is done (while of course blaming the other side), the list goes on and on and on, all the while he will continue to call us "my friends".
I agree that if McCain/Palin win this one,
Big-time.
I agree that McCain has been for deregulation...
yes. But when it counted, when he saw the crisis coming, he cosponsored legislation to REGULATE. Obama did not. This is not just about money. This is about putting your country first. WHen you see that your economy could be put in crisis because of a program in trouble, you should put country before party and fix it. Obama, Dodd, and Frank did not; in fact, made it worse by encouraging Fannie/Freddie to go on just like they were. That is about judgment. THat is about caring more about your country that your party or your career. Yes, I will accept that McCain had a lobbyist as recently as last month on his campaign. Will you accept that Jim Johnson, with Obama campaign until last month, was one of the CEOs who walked away from Fannie with a HUGE golden parachute, PERSONALLY benefitted from the cooked books?

No, I do not accept that McCain had anything to do with this crisis that faces us now. He is the only one who saw this coming and tried to head it off, and Obama and Biden BOTH helped kill it.

Obama showed very plainly that he put party and career first, and the American people second. As did Dodd, Frank, and yes, Biden because none of them would buck the party and help the legislation pass.

I think his judgment is wrong, I think his priorities are wrong, I think he and the Democrats are on the wrong side of this and Republicans are on the right side, specifically John McCain.

I am not convinced it was all about money. What I am convinced about is that it was party ahd politically motivated and we the rank and file Americans got thrown under the bus. McCain tried to stop the bus...the Democrats, Dodd, Obama in particular...pushed the accelerator.
I agree - it WAS McCain's best debate. And if that's
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Agree 100% with you regarding McCain being an adulterer....
leaving his first wife who had been disfigured in an car accident! Shame!
Why did he cheat on her and later divorce her?
He could have done this without cheating on her first.
I do NOT believe him when he says the he regretted it because he NEVER regretted it.

Also McCain was offered to be released from imprisonment, what he refused. Really nice gesture to his wife.

It is old stuff, I know, but the OP reminded me of that. Talk about trust!
Agree and believe republican ticket will be McCain and
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i agree. It makes McCain look weak and
what a great leader he would make...McBush...
I agree. McCain was so funny I was splitting a gut.

O was funny, especially the great-grandfather comment and the meaning of his name.  I thought McCain was really roasting rather well!


I don't agree with this. I think the people sm

who do not want to say the pledge should be allowed to be silent or leave the room during while it is recited.  Don't stop everyone.


JMHO.


I agree with that! If more people would do that...
maybe in unison could hold feet to fire. :)
I agree. If two people....sm
want to make that commitment to each other, it's none of my business either.
I couldn't agree with you more!! I'm voting McCain for the same reason. nm
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I am so glad other people agree
I had forgot about that one. And they looted Air Force One, and I also heard they did "unthinkable" things to some of the rooms in the white house that took some major professional cleaners to remove bodily fluids from some of the places when they were upset that Gore didn't win. That might have been a rumor but I wouldn't put it past them. I just don't understand where they came from and why people bow down to them. They are the worst two people to come to Washington since I don't know who. I could understand some of it if they came from a long line of politicians like the Kennedy's or other political families of generations, but these are two individuals (both lawyers) who crawled over and stepped on everyone they needed to to get where they are today. I just don't understand why people worship them.
Dont agree. It is people like you along with the
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I agree with OP. I was just at party with people sm
from both sides and everyone was respectful. OK, it was family party, but still. There was respect for both sides.

We are the UNITED STATES and we should start acting like it.
Why are people clueless?! Because they don't agree with YOU?!
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I agree! I think the majority of people who are
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I tend to agree with the greediness of people...

any responsible homeowner would READ the contract. We sat down with our mortgage company and read each item line by line so we could fully understand what we were signing. I don't feel sorry for those who bought and now claim they didn't understand what they were signing, didn't realize they had an ARM loan or that a balloon payment was coming up. Also, anyone who does get bailed out should have to put up 20% or more in cash the next time they try to buy a home. Too many people used their home as a piggy bank, thinking it was free money.


I agree....simply because what people will say to a caller...
or even on this board or to a friend even...when that person gets to the point of voting...I am not sure all those saying to the pollsters "Obama" will actually vote for him. Remember the exit polls for Kerry...it looked like he was winning everywhere by large margin and when the votes came in...not so. We are not going to know until election night. And I still think it will be close, but I don't think Obama has it sewn up by a long shot.
Again my point is made - you just like arguing and bashing people that don't agree with you
Your bringing up a dead subject while shouting it at us. You started an abortion post on 8/25 and bashed everyone who didn't agree with you, and you were bashing people on 8/22 about the same subject. Everytime someone brought up their viewpoint you be arguing or bashing them. The point I (and others) are making is you keep bringing this up again and again and again and again and when people don't agree with you you bash them, then when they come back to say something you bash them even more. Then when we finally get a break and have new topics, you start another post about the abortion thing again. The abortion issue is getting tiring for all. We know what abortions are, how horrible they are, and we know how babies are made and the stages of their lives (we are MT's and all took the course) but you feel the need to keep it up and up and up and it's getting real old. Besides that it looks like you are posting under other names and then answering yourself.

I want to read people's opinions and questions of issues we are facing. Abortion is not one of them for most of us. Let it go and move on. What I am trying to say is that while I'd like to hear your viewpoints on other issues enough with the abortion and try and not be so argumentative all the time.

Yes, we all have the right to post things, but it looks like you are posting just for the sake of arguing and we're all getting tired of it.

So go ahead bash me some more.
I agree people should leaving their freakin QA'ing out of the board
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Between McCain and Obama

Do you think either candidate is more "real" than the other? Is one of them truly a "what you see is what you get" sort of person, or is one of them liable to turn tail and be the opposite of what we see now?


Thoughts, opinions, comments?


I had hoped to include Hillary in my list, but I guess that won't be necessary now. Bummer.


Obama/McCain
I think this whole politics thing is amusing.   I believe people are fed up with the politics of the White House and where this administration has brought us in 8 years, Iraq, threatening Iran, many enemies in other nations who used to be friends, etc.  Obama is accused of not knowing much and McCain of being too old to run.   I think maybe both are true.  I am waiting for a debate between these two men to see if I will even bother to vote, because in MHO all politicians will lie to get where they want in office.   All I do know is that this country is going in the wrong direction and needs to change quickly.    That is why I believe a woman should be in the White House.  No Hillary did not win, but there needs to be a strong woman in there to run the country and straighten this horrible mess out, which includes global warming, health care, aide for elderly and food for the poor and help for the poor.  We need to concentrate on our country more to help the poor/sick/elderly, and stop the oil companies from making such huge profits while we decide on food or gas for the week.   
Obama vs McCain
Not in any way to make light of John McCain's service to this country.  If being a Viet Nam POW qualilfies anyone to be president, maybe my husband should consider running.  No?  Why not?  He has the "qualifications."  We are, or should be, electing a leader of this great nation, not a war hero.  Perhaps J. McCain has integrity and other qualities but I see nothing that makes me want to see him be our next leader.  I can say the same about Obama.  My personal opinion, we don't even have a candidate that I can support as the lesser of the evils.  Having always been registered a Democrat, I  have changed my registration to Independent.  McCain will bring us 8 more years of George W. Bush and we can't afford it.  Obama will bring us........well, who knows?  I believe his slant is more toward African-Americans rather than plain old every day AMERICANS.  I don't care what color he is, if I really believed he would turn our economy, energy, SS, Welfare and the list goes on, around I would vote for him in a New York minute.  Unfortunately I think he is saying what the American people want to hear and McCain..........well, his platform seems to be all about HIM and the time he spent as a POW. <sigh>
Obama/McCain
Take away McCain's military service...no more or less than thousands of other men who are not running for office and thus usually don't even like to talk about their war experience.... and there is not a whole lot of difference in the two men.  BOTH have an agenda and NEITHER has anything to do with putting country first any more than George W. Bush (or Bill Clinton) had an agenda that put country first.  Otherwise, we wouldn't be in this mess.  Well...maybe all of them would put country first right after themselves and their cronies.
Obama, no McCain, no Obama, no McCain

That is how I have been going over the last couple months.  I just don't know any more and frankly I'm getting tired of it.  I voted for Obama over Hillary, then was a strong supporter of Obama.  Heard some stuff I didn't like so I switched to McCain, then heard some stuff and switched back to Obama, now with the economic crisis and what the democrats have done, I am looking towards McCain again.  Let me explain why (please take pitty on me and don't flame me too bad :-), but with that said let me tell you why.


I feel that Obama can speak better than McCain.  Gotta give him credit for being an eloquent speaker, however that doesn't mean that his ideas are right for America.  I'm learning about his voting record and the programs he will be pushing for, and if I wanted to live in the type of economy Obama wants if he is elected I mind as well move to Cuba or another country that is socialized.  Yes he understands our economy but he's making all the wrong decisions and we are going to be further in debt.  I just found out today that 700B dollars is not a figure they need.  They made that up out of thin air.  They need close to a trillion dollars, but they were afraid if they ask for a trillion it will raise suspicion so they picked 700B out of thin air.  And that money will be pocketed by them and then they'll need more.  Kucinich said today where do you think we're going to get 700B from?  We'll get it from banks.  And we'll give it to banks.  And then more faux money and debt and loans will go out and we will not be any better.  And this is what Obama is going to approve.  Obama does not care about people like you and me.  He is for the 1% of the rich (him and his friends).  I don't think he is qualified to make any decisions about our economy.  And Pelosi and Franks should be fired on the spot!  We should remember as a democratic congresswoman pointed out that we have enemies both foreign AND domestic.  That means here in our country, and as far as I can see they are the democratics that are destroying our economy.  NOT ALL DEMOCRATS.  I wanted to make sure I made that clear.  There are plenty good democrats who know this bill is wrong and are voting agaist it - good for them, but there are the other ones (along with some republicans) who are out for themself.  We need a strong leader to lead us in the direction of bringing our economy back up and I believe that person is John McCain.


Second, I don't feel safe with what Obama is proposing to sit down with our enemies and have a nice big group hug and everything will be all better.  That's not the way it works and McCain understands that.  I feel safer with McCain in there on foreign policies and the ability to keep our country safer.


Biden - Don't know much about him except he's been in the senate a long time, which is good because Obama is fairly new so he would be big help.  Personally I like Biden, so have no quams with him.  I think he can put his foot in his mouth enough if you get him talking long enough.  It also doesn't help that he was even saying Obama is not qualified to be president, but time will tell.


Palin.  She's better than a lot of people are giving her credit for.  I know your probably saying pleeese, but put your hatred towards her aside.  She has a lot to learn, but so does Obama.  He's had an 18-month lead on her, and with help she is learning fast. I heard the leader of Pakistan tonight and he said after meeting with her she was intelligent and he thinks if McCain and Palin are elected she will do just fine.


I like her resume and knowlege of the economy and plans for getting us back on the right track better than Obama's.  BTW - I did watch one of her interviews and she did quite well.  She was very intelligent and articulate in what she was saying (completed full sentances throughout the whole interview, finished her thought processes, etc), but then again she was being interviewed by someone who treated her with respect and didn't try to pull any of the "gotcha's", or look down at her cross-eyed like Couric did.  Couric has the interview skills of a beanpole, so don't know why anyone even watched it.


I am looking forward to the debate on Thursday.  I know a lot of you have already got it in your minds that she has already lost the debate and that is unfortunate.  I am anxious to hear Biden talk.  I do like him and had wished he had won the nomination over Obama.


My feeling on Palin is that given a chance and good mentors she will do just fine as VP and I always remember our founding fathers didn't have half the experience she does and they made this country great in the beginning.  Now politics is just filled with lawyers, crooks and liars.


So...if Obama and Biden win I won't be crying, and if McCain and Palin win I will be fine too.


Obama : McCain
It was McCain's best debate, but it was not good enough. Obama is 9 points ahead or even more and winning. It is too late for McCain.
The election is Nov 4.
Obama vs McCain
Obama is a socialist from the word go and will have social medicine, not good.
Obama/McCain
All this crap about Obama's "radical relationships."  Why is it that McCain has not brought up preacher Wright.  He hasn't spared anything else to trash Obama so why is he sparing him on that?  And don't tell me  it is "off limits."  I'm not buying that. Nothing else is "off limits."   Unless maybe Obama/McCain have made a deal not to bring up that in exchange for Obama not bringing up something that would bring McCain down.  I heard preacher Wright with my own ears and that is something *I* would like to hear addressed. I do not call Wright "reverend" because I don't believe he deserves the title based on what I know.  If McCain is so righteous and he11 bent on "saving" this country why doesn't he hit Obama with that accusation.....that might have some legitimate place in this campaign?
Obama : McCain
Obama has a dynamic mentality to which McCain's mentality just pales.
This is it.