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I do have a grip. If she knew about them, she would have

Posted By: ms on 2008-10-19
In Reply to: I suppose the meth labs just sprung up after she was Mayor, eh? (nm) - Get a Grip

tried to clean them up. It is her community, after all, and she has children growing up there.


Are you implying something more sinister here? If so, please provide referenced links with proof.


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You seriously need to GET A GRIP.
Where are you people digging up all your 'facts'? In the checkout line?
Get a grip...(sm)

*government and religion are intricately intertwined and that the fact will be made evident in the ensuing years.*  Guess what?  That fact has already been made evident ---- and that's the problem.


Exactly why is it that you feel obligated to jump into a conversation that initially had nothing to do with religion and start preaching?  Might I suggest the faith board.


Get a grip
Certainly abortion is not an issue that is going to be settled here, but to lump all Republicans and Christians together claiming they want no sex ed and no birth control makes yours about the MOST narrow-minded opinion I've seen yet.

Abortion is a very personal issue and ultimately will remain to be up to the woman involved. My great-grandmother, who was having children around 1895-1905 used to say "Better ten on your lap than one on your conscience." Women even then did things to prevent having more children and thankfully, we have a lot better alternatives now than we had then.


Get a grip....(sm)

As everyone on this board knows, I am an athiest, pro-choice, pro gay marriage.  I have been told it would be better if I were sterile.  I have been called a racist (that one was funny), a hypocrite, a pig, an Obamatron, and I don't have time to look for the rest of them.  You don't see me crying do you?


This board is full of hot topics.  If you can't handle it, I would suggest you leave it alone.


Get a grip please
Could this be any more ridiculous? If you believe this, I have some oceanfront property in Arizona I'd like to sell ya! You scare me...
Get a grip.......
Bush just locked people up period. He flushed habeas corpus. He could care less about the families of these attacks. He had agendas to fulfill. Of course Obama said he was going to close Gitmo and a good thing, too. This war in Iraq, derailed from Afghanistan, bred more terrorists than anyone can imagine. Bush set the middle east on fire. Not Obama. But Obama gets to clean it up. You really don't know who you are dealing with here, do you? Bush was "The Decider." And a lot of good that got us. Let's see what Obama does. He may be "The Doer." You just don't know, do you? Nobody does. I think he's a lot smarter than you could possibly imagine. I suppose he could let those prisoners squat in Gitmo for his entire term and let someone else deal with it. How long do you think these guys will last in one of our federal prisons? Ole whatshisname, the serial killer that liked to eat his victims didn't last very long. Wipe your tears and buck it up.
Okay, get a grip on your emotions....
Some folks - possibly just you in different monikers/lack of moniker - are posting on this board under the guise of concern for our troops as well as condemnation of the left.

These posts reek of play-acting. You seem to portray yourself as a reasonable person who is truly concerned but your posts show you as an intolerant, kind of crazy person. See the above post about how I could talk to a military person like that. You were the one being hateful and volatile and a little bit nuts, not me.

But there is no reasoning with such a person. You are creepy. I will not reply to any more of your posts, nor read any more of them.
Get a grip...........they have the same rights everyone
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Get a grip. This is illegal and against the constitution. nm
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I have a grip..........a darned good one....sm
Since you are so politely asking me to butt out of the conversation, then I will oblige you.  So much for freedom of speech.
Geez. No. Get a grip. I was sincerely hoping...
that no one ever places you in the position you are placing these babies.


I always knew I would NOT

vote for Obama.  Now that Palin is McCain's running mate.....I feel more confident than ever that I made the right decision when I chose to vote for McCain......even if McCain is really really really old.  ; - )


McCain and Palin ང 


I knew you would be one of the few to...
...understand this post, without tossing in all these other issues again into the mix.

I can hardly wait to see her mix it up with them either!
yes! I knew it!

They won't let her off the leash to speak without a written statement in front of her.  Hope people take notice and realize what this means.  Pat Buchanan yesterday said she was under no obligation to ever give an interview.  Isn't that unbelievable??


 


Gee I wish I knew as much as you do.

Most of this I already knew......sm
but some I did not.  America, collectively speaking, bought it hook, line and sinker.  One can only "hope" that the "change" will be for something they really "believe" in.  I fear it is not and it is too late to stop the well-oiled wheel of fate from turning. 

Obama was manufactured for this job by his puppeteers and now they are ready to put on the show.  Those who think something simple like his birth certificate will make a differece are as deluded as the sheeple are.  We, the people, have been duped on all fronts and now it is time to sit down and obediently watch the puppet show called "The Revelation."  Hurry quick for a front-row seat! 
Wish I knew!
Pubs don't really seem to have one, which is really disappointing. There are quiet a few out there that make a lot of noise, but I don't really see any of them walking the walk, you know?

And I'm really disappointed in Michael Steele and his apology. I thought at least he'd have a backbone - it's okay not to agree with Rush and it's okay to say it out loud - sheesh!
I knew nothing about it at all until that very day
I did not know what it was about, nothing and I turned onto the bigger channels to see what was happening. I left the house and heard some local radio news saying not much traffic in Atlanta pertaining to that. I just surmized the tea party referenced the Boston tea party relating to taxes but there was not much coverage at all that I saw.
Yes, I knew....
It was just one of those automatic MT things that made me laugh. I have to really concentrate to type the word milk since it invariably comes out mild.
It blows the lid off what we already knew. sm
Their Bush hatred is so virulent, it wipes out all reasoning and blackens their souls.  They have no compassion for the people in the south, only gleeful that they have once again been given a reason to hate Bush.  No matter how misguided that hatred and blame is. 
gt it would go a lot better for you if you actually knew what you were talking about. sm
instead of pulling stuff off PETA's website.  You don't know Kyoto.  Just admit it.  You don't know it and you are pretending to know it and you are just looking silly. 
Knew what you meant
Isn't it awful when your own relatives treat you like dirt. My sister is mormon and she actually thinks I'm on the same level with manson, dahmer, hitler, etc because I'm not mormon (we both grew up going to methodist services with 12 years of sunday school). Inlaws treated us like garbage cos we didn't go to their church when we lived near them. I am a deeply spiritual person but I am not a Christian and I count myself blessed not to be in their crowd.
I knew it had been filed....
so now they have been served? Out of curiousity, if he was proven ineligible and had to withdraw...what happens then? Another primary or what? Has that ever happened before? Where a nominee had to withdraw before the election? Does the party just pick another person and that person pick another VP?
i knew what you meant
I took no offense, but I do get a little sensitive as I would have loved to have some children when I was younger (but then I look at the Menendez brothers and my own nephew and say - what a relief- smart decision for me) HA HA. I did understand your post as you intended it that if man and woman don't unite there is no offspring, but I was just saying I believe that we can all live together. Man and woman can off their offspring they want and the others who wish to pursue an alternative way just won't have kids. I'd rather be with someone of my own gender and be truly and blissfully in love and married to her and not have any kids, rather than have kids and be married to a miserable person just because he's the other sex.
How do you fix corruption??? They knew what
His own spokesperson said they have "amended" the papers to read ..... in other words, we will admit the money was given SPECIFICALLY to hire more workers to go out and do whatever necessary to get more votes for Obama, even if through illegal means.


An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show Citizens Services Inc. — a subsidiary of ACORN — worked in “get-out-the-vote” projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary.

I knew what you meant as well.

Just like if McCain had chosen Powell.  The dems would be in an uproar because they would say he picked him because he was black, not because he has great values, experience, etc. 


Oh wait, they already did that with somebody else...


Do you think they knew the U.S. has only 50 states, too?nm

I'm sure a lot of us knew a recession

was coming long before the "experts" knew it.  All they had to do was to be Americans who were trying to fill up their gas tanks, feed their families and try to hang on to their jobs.  I just read an article the other day where someone in the government finally admitted that we've been in a recession that they believe will last another 14 months.  (Can't remember who said it; will try to find the link.)  This is after months and months of denials, although most everday folks felt like they were in a recession long before hearing it "officially."


If they are only now admitting to a recession, that tells me that we're in the beginnings of a full-fledged DEPRESSION. 


Add terror threats, a war between Iran and Israel and the USA, perhaps provoking a terror attack (real or "false flag"), people becoming so poor in this country that their fear is replaced with anger, and voila!!  The US soldiers that are lying in wait for us to "misbehave" as tensions arise so they can keep us in line, just might have their work cut out for them...especially if we suffer another attack on our soil.


We've got crooks running the Treasury Department, all chosen from the same failing companies for which they worked. 


The Wall Street "crisis" came on so quickly and so urgently that nobody knew what to do.


Well, Bush knew what to do.  First, he hired Henry Paulson of Goldman Sachs fame, the company that received a $3 billion payout, who then went on to appoint Michael Alix to "oversee things."  This is the same Michael Alix who was in control of "overseeing things" at Bear Stearns (we remember how well that whole Bear Stearns thing worked out.)  Paulson then went on to appoint Neel Kashkari (another Goldman Sachs graduate).


Bush has selected these men, either personally or through Paulson, because he knows that THEY know how to play the system and accentuate the greed.  He hired people who aren't on America's side at all.  They're part of Bush's "Haves," and the rest of average Americans -- the "have nots" -- aren't even in the picture, except as it pertains to how much money has been stolen from our accounts.  Bush has always has been about greed.  He still is.  When a government begins to buy banks, it's at the very least socialism (if not, more accurately, fascism).  For all intents and purposes, this money could easily be in Bush's pockets.  We don't and won't know this because this particular sweetheart deal came with NO oversight and NO transparency as conditions on the part of Bush.  By the way, Bush bought a ranch in Paraguay. 


Basically, Bush had a lot of knowledgeable, independent people who had NO conflict of interest from having been senior executives of the failed companies from which he could have chosen.


Instead, he chose those who were at the very top to the crooks (if not the crooks themselves.)


In short, Bush hired the foxes to watch the hen houses.  No doubt in my mind that Bush's pockets are going to be pretty full soon if they're not already.


The arrogance with which these auto executives presented their testimony is reminiscent of all the arrogant people who surround themselves with the Arrogant-In-Chief.


In the middle of all this, though, I do see somewhat of a silver lining.  The less money people have to spend, the lower prices will be forced to go -- all that supply and demand stuff. 


Enter Obama's "bottom-up" theory.  Once the lives of the least of us can improve a bit, that will hopefully trickle up to everyone else.


I also heard an excellent idea on TV recently:  That every single CEO of a company should NEVER earn more than the President of the United States.  I kind of liked that one. 


P.S.  I apologize if this post doesn't make any sense.  I'm very heavily medicated right now and probably shouldn't even be at the computer.  I've tried to write this as coherently as I could.  If I failed, I apologize. 


Hope you all have a great evening.


JTBB - I knew you'd try this
That is why I said that are many more websites than just what I listed. You can say all you want and try to reason that your viewpoints and your opinions are truthful while the others aren't, but in actuality they all are like Hitler. The actions of what Obama has done so far are like Hitler's whether you like to hear it or not.
Clinton knew
who had information about Bin Laden before 9-11 and did nothing?  Oh yeah, President Clinton, another Democrat who chose to do nothing...Bush was less than 9 months into his first term when 9-11 happened.
That was the first I knew about Murtha except

before the election.


I agree with your statement on the others. I think Pelosi is too pushy and I wonder why she is in such a hurry to pass all O's stuff so quick. I often wonder what kind of background she has.


I watched a program the other night (don't ask who, I'm always flipping channels) and they had a perfect answer for where Gitmo prisoners should go....to Alcatraz, right in Pelosi's backyard and she can then look through those viewers that look out over the bay and watch the prisoners herself. I thought it was hillarious.


I knew it! (see post above somewhere)
Tell us what that lifestyle is like. Do you guys actually do the horizontal bop with your animal-suits on?
I knew you sucked...
after reading your posts on other boards. Hope your new job sucks as much as you do.
If Americans Knew..................sm
Copioed from the wesite

'If Americans Knew'

Last Updated July 9, 2008

In the late 1800s a small, fanatic movement called “political Zionism” began in Europe. Its goal was to create a Jewish state somewhere in the world. Its leaders settled on the ancient and long-inhabited land of Palestine for the location of this state.


Over the coming decades Zionist leaders used various strategies to accomplish their goal of taking over Palestine.

This growing violence culminated in Israel's ruthless 1947-49 "War of Independence," in which at least 750,000 Palestinian men, women, and children were expelled from their homes – half of them even before any Arab armies joined the war. At every point in this war, Zionist forces outnumbered Arab forces. This massive humanitarian disaster is known among Palestinians and others as ‘The Catastrophe,’ AL Nakba in Arabic.


Zionist forces committed at least 33 massacres and destroyed 531 Palestinian villages and towns.

This was the historical creation of the state of Israel and this is the truth, no proaganda.

This is History.

You can read the whole article on the website

If Americans knew.com




I knew there was a reason I can't stand him.

His office *knew* (tired) ...nm

I knew it was not you who posted the second time...
and I was responding to that poster. My description is not a tad overstated, and if it suits you to believe that the baby is not alive and does not feel pain, so be it. Dilatation and curettage is dilating a uterus and cutting the baby to ribbons. That is not overstated. You should view a film of one. Partial birth abortion is gruesome and horrible. I did overstate it. There is no nice clean unpainful way to abort a child. No need to be condescending, either, but that is not unexpected.

The medical community may refer to miscarriage as abortion, that is semantics. You and I both know that a spontaneous abortion has nothing to do with human intervention. D&C, partial birth abortion, those require human intervention. Not even remotely the same thing; we both know that. As to the medical community...why does the medical community do surgery in utero....why would they do surgery on something dead? That makes absolutely no sense. The below is taken from an article about a procedure performed on a 30-week baby:

On Nov. 7, a team of specialists -- cardiologists from Children's and high-risk obstetrical specialists from Brigham and Women's Hospital -- used ultrasound imaging to guide a catheter through Angela VanDerwerken's abdomen and uterus into the heart of the 30-week-old fetus, a 1 1/2 -hour operation.

A fine needle, followed by a wire with a preloaded balloon, was pushed into the left atrium and then through the atrial septum to reduce the pressure that was causing the atrium to expand with blocked blood. The balloon was inflated until the atrial wall widened. Then the same process was used to create a second hole in the septum, only this time, a tiny stent was put in place.

Cheers rang through the operating room when heart monitors showed blood flowing through the stent. But doctors would not know how successful they'd been until Grace was born by vaginal delivery Jan. 10.

Jay VanDerwerken of Ashburn, next to wife Angela, embraces their daughter Grace during a news conference at Children's Hospital Boston. (By Josh Reynolds -- Associated Press)

The medical community proves what a lot of us already morally know, that the child in utero is alive. How does a heart beat and pump blood in something not alive?

You are right, I would choose not to have an abortion. You can also rest assured I will not stop calling it what it is, either, and that is murder. You want a woman's right to choose, but you do not want to allow me to have an opinion because it does not agree with yours. Right now the law permits abortion on demand (thanks to activist judges who took the right away from individual states and people to vote on the matter) and my faith also tells me I must obey the law of the land. But my faith does not tell me I should not continue to call what is wrong, wrong. As one poster so aptly put it, just because it is legal does not make it right. I am not telling you or anyone else whether or not to have an abortion. What I am telling you is that I believe to choose abortion is wrong, and I believe that any time a society starts to devalue life it sets the stage for moral decline and sets the stage for many worse things to come. History has proven that, time and time again.
I knew an MT who did just that - died at her desk.
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I knew about birth control.
However, was I willing to go to my mom and ask her to put me on the pill.  I knew my mother would have suspected my sexual activity and I didn't want her to know.  Most teens also have the belief that "it won't happen to me."  Now that I'm older, I see how some of the decisions I made back when I was 17 were poor ones, but at that time I thought they were great ideas.  Do I blame my mom and dad for the bad decisions I made back then....no.  Those were my decisions, my choices, and I had to deal with the consequences. 
So, if you knew someone that could build you a home
you wouldn't like that? You're so full of crap!

Of course you would. If I knew a contractor that could help me build a house for less, charge me less and still get the job done, you darn tootin I would.

Stop acting so self-righteous.

Even I got better sense than that. I'm a DEMOCRAT who would love to know someone to help me cut corners to build a nice new home.


Everyone here knew you were voting Obama
Your phony posts have been full of crap from day one.

Every single post you've made here has bashed Republicans and praised that spider monkey obama.

Perhaps MTs who can't find a job STINK AT THEIR JOBS!!!! If you don't have work, do't blame the Republicans. Get some education and fix the problem yourself.

Stop beggining big government to fix your own shortcomings!!!!!
Thank you, sbMT. I knew the verse was in there
:)
this is an open board last I knew
and there is no reason to put down a person for posting what you do not approve of.
last I knew there was nothing about the president not being able to smoke...
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Hey JTBB - knew I could count on you LOL
As I posted I knew exactly who would be trying to cut down the articles. Glad to see you didn't let me down. HA HA HA. At least though there will be people with open minds who will read it.

The rest of you I think need to give all yourselved a big group hug and high five. It must feel good to you all to cut down and insult people that don't think the way you do.

But wait...you can always just stay tuned to MSNBC for all your tabloid shows you like to consider "real" news. It looks like Matthews and Olberman have taken over almost every show there while they spew their hateful viewpoints.
Yep, I knew it would go from slamming her kids to
nm
Yeah. They knew it was going to happen
Sen. Schumer from NY knew last January. So you know he told all his buddies. I posted a link about it yesterday.
oh, honey, I knew you'd be the first BHL to answer

You really are a piece of work. 


Let the pills go, honey.  That's old news.  For being in health care, you embarrass me.


I know the difference here, so my posts here are done.


I disagree...we knew exactly what the change would be...sm
We could give those who voted for Obama cover by saying "they didn't know", I suppose, but only if we conclude that they were either comatose during the entire presidential campaign, were seduced by the racial considerations, were taken in by his smooth style, or were simply intellectually incapable of analyzing his positions and their implications.

Whatever the reason for this horrific mistake, voters were aided and abetted by the media, who never asked the hard questions because they already knew the answers and had no interest in the American public hearing them.

Obama was not mysterious during the campaign. His lack of character was fully exposed. His liberal agenda was so clearly stated that even Joe the Plumber had the sense to be frightened and outraged by it. What Obama carefully concealed from the public was what he really knew about the costs that would come crashing down on the public when a government that creates no wealth has nothing to offer but redistribution of the wealth created by others.

Our forefathers never guaranteed equality of outcomes, which would have been an intolerable notion to them. They guaranteed equality of opportunity. In the election of Obama and of those who conspire with him to destroy the fundamental principles on which this nation was founded, we can't say that this was change we didn't know about. It is precisely the change we voted into office, to our everlasting shame.




If I knew the answer, I wouldn't...

...have asked.  You again refused to answer the question and instead posted an additional equally ridiculous and meaningless post in response to mine. 


And for the record, I don't claim to know anyone on this board because I DON'T.  I do enjoy reading JTBB's posts, though.


Hope you have a great day.  That's what I plan to do! 


Well I'm not getting anything back - which I knew - see message
all along that there were no tax breaks for the under $250K crowd. It was a huge campaign stunt (similar to the Clinton gas credit that she thought if she said that people would vote for her) but this got way out of hand and there were/are some unfortunate souls who still believe what he spewed. I knew all along that the middle income (under $250K would have to pay more in taxes - NOT less). But for the unfortunate fools that bought into his stunt that you're not going to have to pay more or you'll get a break or pay lower, that's all it was...a publicity stunt. But I'm paying for it. I owe from last year (which I know is not the current admins fault so in no way am I placing blame on them for what I owe from last year (which is close to 4K), however, last year made the same amount as the year before and my taxes worked out fine the year before and I paid the same amount (and got money back), why not last years I have no idea.

However....with that said my taxes this year have more than doubled than what I was paying last year and with the tax hikes this current place is putting on everyone my tax lady said to expect my taxes to go up more and it might be a good idea to be sending extra so I don't get stuck with a huge tax bill at the end of the year again.

It's just very sad, and even worse that people will have to pay more but they don't care.