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I'm just so glad I live in a BLUE state, and not

Posted By: a red one. on 2008-10-16
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Since when is Georgia a blue state?
Just wondering.
And even though my property value went down in a blue state...
my taxes still went up. That's what goes on in a Democratic-controlled state. They sent my assessment that valued my home at $40,000--yes $40K less than last year and my taxes STILL went up. And you can bet property taxes in Washington are higher than those in Tennessee. I can't rent my home out for what my payment is, so each month, we lose money because we can't sell it with the housing market the way it is and did the right thing when we financed, by NOT financing a home we could not afford with an ARM. Luckily, we got a really good deal, so the house is still worth more than we paid for it, but not much and it doesn't really matter anyway because, like I said, we can't sell it. I think that I would be happy if your property values stayed the same, rather than falling.
Guess it's time to move to a blue state then huh?


Red state, blue state?

Written last Thanksgiving:  "Some would argue that two different nations actually celebrated: upright, moral, traditional red America and the dissolute, liberal blue states clustered on the periphery of the heartland. The truth, however, is much more complicated and interesting than that.

Take two iconic states: Texas and Massachusetts. In some ways, they were the two states competing in the last election. In the world's imagination, you couldn't have two starker opposites. One is the homeplace of Harvard, gay marriage, high taxes, and social permissiveness. The other is Bush country, solidly Republican, traditional, and gun-toting. Massachusetts voted for Kerry over Bush 62 to 37 percent; Texas voted for Bush over Kerry 61 to 38 percent.

So ask yourself a simple question: which state has the highest divorce rate? Marriage was a key issue in the last election, with Massachusetts' gay marriages becoming a symbol of alleged blue state decadence and moral decay. But in actual fact, Massachusetts has the lowest divorce rate in the country at 2.4 divorces per 1,000 inhabitants. Texas - which until recently made private gay sex a criminal offence - has a divorce rate of 4.1. A fluke? Not at all. The states with the highest divorce rates in the U.S. are Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas. And the states with the lowest divorce rates are: Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maine, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont. Every single one of the high divorce rate states went for Bush. Every single one of the low divorce rate states went for Kerry. The Bible Belt divorce rate, in fact, is roughly 50 percent higher than the national average.

Some of this discrepancy can be accounted for by the fact that couples tend to marry younger in the Bible Belt - and many clearly don't have the maturity to know what they're getting into. There's some correlation too between rates of college education and stable marriages, with the Bible Belt lagging a highly educated state like Massachusetts. But the irony still holds. Those parts of America that most fiercely uphold what they believe are traditional values are not those parts where traditional values are healthiest. Hypocrisy? Perhaps. A more insightful explanation is that these socially troubled communities cling onto absolutes in the abstract because they cannot live up to them in practice.

But doesn't being born again help bring down divorce rates? Jesus, after all, was mum on the subject of homosexuality, but was very clear about divorce, declaring it a sin unless adultery was involved. A recent study, however, found no measurable difference in divorce rates between those who are "born again" and those who are not. 29 percent of Baptists have been divorced, compared to 21 percent of Catholics. Moreover, a staggering 23 percent of married born-agains have been divorced twice or more. Teen births? Again, the contrast is striking. In a state like Texas, where the religious right is extremely strong and the rhetoric against teenage sex is gale-force strong, the teen births as a percentage of all births is 16.1 percent. In liberal, secular, gay-friendly Massachusetts, it's 7.4, almost half. Marriage itself is less popular in Texas than in Massachusetts. In Texas, the percent of people unmarried is 32.4 percent; in Massachusetts, it's 26.8 percent. So even with a higher marriage rate, Massachusetts manages a divorce rate almost half of its "conservative" rival.

Or take abortion. America is one of the few Western countries where the legality of abortion is still ferociously disputed. It's a country where the religious right is arguably the strongest single voting bloc, and in which abortion is a constant feature of cultural politics. Compare it to a country like Holland, perhaps the epitome of socially liberal, relativist liberalism. So which country has the highest rate of abortion? It's not even close. America has an abortion rate of 21 abortions per 1,000 women aged between 15 and 44. Holland has a rate of 6.8. Americans, in other words, have three times as many abortions as the Dutch. Remind me again: which country is the most socially conservative?

Even a cursory look at the leading members of the forces of social conservatism in America reveals the same pattern. The top conservative talk-radio host, Rush Limbaugh, has had three divorces and an addiction to pain-killers. The most popular conservative television personality, Bill O'Reilly, just settled a sex harassment suit that indicated a highly active adulterous sex life. Bill Bennett, the guru of the social right, was for many years a gambling addict. Karl Rove's chief outreach manager to conservative Catholics for the last four years, Deal Hudson, also turned out to be a man with a history of sexual harassment. Bob Barr, the conservative Georgian congressman who wrote the "Defense of Marriage Act," has had three wives so far. The states which register the highest ratings for the hot new television show, "Desperate Housewives," are all Bush-states.

The complicated truth is that America truly is a divided and conflicted country. But it's a grotesque exaggeration to say that the split is geographical, or correlated with blue and red states. Many of America's biggest "sinners" are those most intent on upholding virtue. In fact, it may be partly because they know sin so close-up that they want to prevent its occurrence among others. And some of those states which have the most liberal legal climate - the Northeast and parts of the upper MidWest - are also, in practice, among the most socially conservative. To ascribe all this to "hypocrisy" seems to me too crude an explanation. America is simply a far more complicated and diverse place than crude red and blue divisions can explain.


I don't know what state you live in but in my state

they are adding police and only in the big cities do they have paid firemen. The rest are volunteers.


I look at it this way: If a state can't stay in the black, then they have to cut spending some place that wouldn't jeopardize the safety of the citizens. Threats of cutting essential services like Barney Fife stated today are unjustified. Cut the non-essential services first.


Our governor talks about cutting back on services, laying off government workers, which I think is a good idea because government is too big anyway, but then he turns around and spends more money on non-essential items. Doesn't make sense.  


 


 


Yes, especially if you live in a state like Washington...
with no income tax. A big lot of the taxes come from property tax. Now, I don't even live there, but I still pay a share of the taxes, plus income tax in another state. But, I guess what can you do? It's the price I must pay for working hard enough to own my own little slice of heaven, even if the military says I don't get to live there.
It was blue long ago and turning blue now thanks to OBAMA THE HERO
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Im so glad I dont live a cloistered life.

That is why Oregon is such a great state to live in.
What a turn out! We live too far away to have gone, but like the other poster I don't do well in crowds.
I also saw bits and snippets of his interview on Good Morning America saying they should back off of Michelle. I think that's great that he is sticking up for her. Clearly the "other side" didn't post the message about what she was talking about and what she meant. They just took a snippet and made a commercial from it when they know that's not what she meant. Then they can sit there with a smirk on her face "she said it, it's on film" but they aren't showing what she meant, so they are purposely being deceiful. It is very low class and just too silly. What's next, they are going to find something his kids said? Also McCain and Clinton better watch out because if they go after Obama's spouse there is plenty of stuff on their spouses too. I read today that Clinton is planning to "unleash" something about Michelle and if she wants to bring anything up we've got plenty of dirt on her spouse "called impeachment". Then there is McCain's wife who is a recovering prescription drug addict and in 1994 escaped prosecution from stealing/using drugs (funny what money can buy you).
you live in a chronic state of conspiracy theory
how sad for you
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You can have our federal money along with a new state motto: "Michigan - The Slave State". n
NM
Any of you live in the midwest? Just in case you live down the road from me...

I live in Wisconsin and am often also in Minnesota.


No, I'm not a stalker or a weirdo (my opinion, anyway).


Yeah, tell me again how liberals want to live and let live....what a joke!!!! nm
why not just tell the truth? That only extends to liberals.*I have had it with Republicans...* a whole group of people tossed out like garbage. *I will not respond to your posts nor read them.*

As to Ann Coulter...the left has their share..Michael Moore, AL Franken...do you ever look at your own party?

That is the most INtolerant post I have seen here in a LONG time.

Liberals true colors always come out...regardless of how much they say they are the MOST tolerant, and want EVERYone to live and let live...everyone if you happen to be liberal.

We are all Americans...and America is about debate. Tell me, liberal Democrat, again how you care about ALL Americans. Talk about ringing hollow.
Glad you enjoyed them and glad to see you back!

blue:red
Likewise
Don't care if you are red, blue or in
grateful for today! Sure looks better than Friday!
I have Blue Shield, and can hardly get them
At least with national, I have a fighting chance to get to see a doctor.
Ole Tn girl myself also and I am a blue
dot in a red state right next to you now. Whereabouts in TN are you? I am glad to say my property taxes are going down this year from over 2,000 to 800- well I have become old enough they believe I no longer have children in public school so am finally getting a break. My property assessment comes out really close to the end of the year so will have some bubbly later on to celebrate. Long time coming!
Q. What’s black and blue and dead all over?

A. Anyone who dares to tell a joke about President Obama in public.


  It's funny cause it's true...


But such a lovely blue folder!
What a bunch of whack jobs those Republicans are! I hear that there was a lovely picture of a windmill in the folder but no numbers. Now that's the kind of budget the Republicans can vote for!

Maybe the final Republican budget will be done as a pictorial, so their base can understand it without every having been taught to read.
Laws vary state-to-state

Many people were confined against their will just because someone wanted them "out of the way." These were normal people with no mental illness - that is why it is so difficult - don't blame the liberals. Blame your state.


CONFINING THE MENTALLY ILL


In the legal space between what a society should and should not do, taking action to restrict the liberty of people who are mentally ill sits in the grayest of gray areas.

Our notions about civil and constitutional rights flow from an assumption of "normalcy." Step beyond the boundaries and arrest and prison may legally follow. Short of that, government's ability to hold people against their will is severely and properly limited. Unusual behavior on the part of someone who is mentally ill is not illegal behavior. Freedom can't be snatched away on a whim, or on the thought that a person is hard to look at, hard to hear, hard to smell.

It was only a few decades ago that the promise of new medications and a change in attitude opened the doors of the mental hospitals and sent many patients into society. There, they would somehow "normalize" and join everyone else, supported by networks of out-patient facilities, job training, special living arrangements and regular, appropriate medication. But the transition has been imperfect, long and difficult.

In some parts of urban America there is little professional support for those with mental health problems. A new generation of drug and alcohol-fueled mental illness has come on the scene. People frequently end up on the street, un-medicated and exhibiting a full range of behaviors that are discomforting at the very least and threatening at their worst.


Spoken like a true blue member of the
Rah! Rah! Sis-boom-blah!
If they wear red, white and blue, they are not REQUIRED to
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I hope he goes after Blue Shield - those crooks

White people with blue eyes caused this
According to Brazil's President "White people with blue eyes causes the economic crisis".

Glad I've got hazel eyes. Whew! Glad to know it's not my fault.



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She did rant when Bush was prez. Now everything is blue skies with a big pot'o'change
at the end of the rainbow!
I for one am glad AG
some opposing views. I'm all for that. Too often "stalking" gets mentioned when it's really just someone who finds a lot to argue with in someone else's posts - of course they're going to reply if they have something to say. It's usually nothing personal. And even if it becomes that after so much back-and-forth, so what? If a person is arguing with facts and debating relevant issues, the other poster ought to have their facts in line also for a good reply. Challenging isn't "stalking." I think those who fear challenge are those who don't really have a desire to debate at all, or aren't sure of their own information - in which case why are they here in a political forum when there are happy happy recipe exchanges going on a couple of forums over?
Glad to see him go...nm

I'm Glad...
Judith Regan, the woman who wrote the book, claims she contracted with his lawyers that the money went to the kids or she would not have done it. Don't know if that is true or not; that is what I read. I am also glad that Fox dropped it. Pressure on NBC also resulted in the crucifixion-like scene in Madonna's concert being cut. The people do have a voice...we just need to continue to use it.
Yes, and I am very glad
that there are less of our troops dying over there. I guess my point was just that some people (not meaning you, but people on the news) discuss how things are going good in Iraq without always necessarily taking into context how BAD it was. I do recall hearing on MSNBC I think how that even though the number of deaths has gone down in recent months, 2007 was still the deadliest year in the war. I would be curious to see how the number of deaths/injuries now compares to each month/year since the war began.
Glad to see someone else...
has refused to drink the Kool-Aid.

Excellent post with great points, not bashing, threats, scare tactics and hot air. Refreshing these days.
I'm glad -nm
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I'm glad you know her so well.
You see her one way, I see her another.  I don't like her, you do, so what's the big deal?  I think she is phony, you think she's sincere.  We'll see.
I'm glad! nm
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I'm so glad I don't believe all that s#it.
Or the gum on the bottom of your shoe is an omen of the end of the world because it resembles Satan.

Ooga-booga-booga -
whattabunchavoodoo.
I'm glad you are.............sm
but that is not the case with everyone.
While I am glad
That part of the stimulus was taken out, I don't agree with the fact that the alternative is a depression. We are already walking a razor's edge of a depression. There isn't a whole lot that is going to "save the economy" or the world financial markets. Prices and company stocks were over inflated for many years and each market must reset themselves. With more money being printed and nothing to back it up, we will have hyperinflation probably towards the end of this year. There are a few very respected analysts that are saying September of 2009 is going to be the worst.

I give Obama all the credit in the world for trying to undertake this massive problem but at the same time it is his job. I hope he is able to pull something out of his hat that is fair and right to everyone.
Thank you - I'm glad I was not the only one
I got through the first sentence, but the rest just rambled on and I could not understand what point was being made except that the poster was too happy to call someone a teabagger. I guess that's the "trendy" thing to do now. I still would like to know if she would like me to call her the "c" word and see how she likes it.

Like cuss words that you cannot say on this board I think this is one of those terms that should be banned.
I am glad he is doing SOMETHING
I am willing to give the man a chance. I don't condemn him simply because he is not of "my party."

I do not like the spending at all - but he was not the cause of that spending. He is just trying to "fix" the broken system he was given.

As has been asked numerous times on this board, what better ideas do you have?
YES! Right on GP! Glad to see you again.

Although we do disagree at times, just like I disagree with JTBB sometimes, at least they are normal "conversations." 


 


Thank you. I'm glad someone can understand
Most of the time on these boards I feel like I'm on another planet.
Glad to be back. sm
No I am not walking on eggshells because of the other board. I re-read my post.  I am the daughter of a Command Sergeant Major, from the real old Army, and we did not discuss rank at all; it was not proper at that time.  When we were overseas, we were all Americans and equal; rank, race, religion did not matter, we were all the same - AMERICANS. When I said earlier my dad was "spat upon".  He wasn't but many VN soldiers were; and I was speaking for them.  No one in their right mind would have spat on my dad.  He was infantry, a sharp-shooter, a marksman.  That was his MOS - military occupational specialty.  The second time he went to VN he got two kinds of malaria at once, and he was shot so full of quinine, he had tremors, I probably did not spell it right, probably tremers, he could never hold a gun again. We were stationed in Germany between 1960-1963, and I still don't know the deal.  All I know is there would be a lot of activity all of a sudden in the middle of the night; mom would be up helping him pack, and he would be gone - maybe for a day, maybe for three months, maybe for a year, and he never talked about it.  I did ask him one time when I was a child if he had ever killed anyone.  He teared up and said he had killed many men, but the hardest was that he had to kill a kid who had a grenade in his hand and was trying to kill him.  Anyhow, we got back to the states in late 63, early 64, just in time for the JFK assination; that is when all innocence stopped for me, and I became a bitter person - working on it though. Thanks gals, just got mom to bed, needed to vent.
I'm certainly glad you didn't go into it...

This is a joke, a parody of all the ridiculous right-winger fundamentalists telling us the tsunami is God punishing people who don't think like them, that Katrina looked like a fetus.......blah-blah-blah. 


The difference is that this is a JOKE and the other examples are DEAD SERIOUS!!!!!  I hope you understand this better now.


You're welcome, glad
He is an excellent writer. Too bad it often falls on deaf ears and blind eyes. Yes, I agree with you, that people tend to take their news with 30-second soundbites and don't read anymore.
I'm glad you posted this. Thanks! nm
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Wish I'd seen that! Well, actually glad I didn't.

Gawd,  just think about the possibilities for teenage rebellion reasons when these kids are old enough.  And I thought I had it bad at age 15!!!!! 


I tend to see a link in:  Oppression of women = viewing women as baby machines


Mind you, I do think babies are precious but I don't necessarily believe that quantity equals quality.


Some religions foster woman as baby-machines (Catholicism included, unfortunately), some cultures foster it.  But as I said, it's part of the destruction of our world if it continues.  Okay, I'll climb down off my soapbox now.


I'm glad someone is helping.
Shame on this administration!
I'm very glad you're here.
I enjoy reading your posts.  I hope you stay. 
Then I'm glad you know Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11

and that they had no WMDs. 


Glad to not be a democrat. Please sm

 








 


Senators vote on English





 


 






 








33 Senators Voted Against English as America 's Official Language June 6, 2007




 




On Wed, 6 Jun 2007 23:35:23 -0500, "Colonel Harry Riley USA ret" wrote:





 




Senators,





 




Your vote against an amendment to the Immigration Bill 1348, to make English America's official language is astounding. On D-Day no less when we honor those that sacrificed in order to secure the bedrock character and principles of America . I can only surmise your vote reflects a loyalty to illegal aliens.





 




I don't much care where you come from, what your religion is, whether you're black, white or some other color, male or female, democrat, republican or independent, but I do care when you're a United States Senator, representing citizens of America and vote against English as the official language of the United States





 




Your vote reflects betrayal, political surrender, violates your pledge of allegiance, dishonors historical principle, rejects patriotism, borders on traitorous action and, in my opinion, makes you unfit to serve as a United States Senator... impeachment, recall, or other appropriate action is warrented.





 




Worse, 4 of you voting against English as America 's official language are presidential candidates: Senator Biden, Senator Clinton, Senator Dodd, and Senator Obama. 





 




Those 4 Senators vying to lead America but won't or don't have the courage to cast a vote in favor of English as America's official language when 91% of American citizens want English officially designated as our language. 





 




This is the second time in the last several months this list of Senators have disgraced themselves as political hacks... unworthy as Senators and certainly unqualifed to serve as President of the United States.





 




If America is as angry as I am, you will realize a back-lash so stunning it will literally rock you out of your panties... and preferably, totally out of the United States Senate.





 




The entire immigration bill is a farce... your action only confirms this really isn't about America ; it's about self-serving politics... despicable at best.




"Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." ~ anonymous 




The following senators voted against making English the official language of America





 




Akaka (D-HI) 




Bayh (D-IN) 




Biden (D-DE) Wants to be President?




Bingaman (D-NM) 




Boxer (D-CA) 




Cantwell (D-WA) 




Clinton (D-NY) Wants to be President?




Dayton (D-MN) 




Dodd (D-CT) Wants to be President?




Domenici (R-NM) Coward, protecting his Senate seat...




Durbin (D-IL) 




Feingold (D-WI) Not unusual for him




Feinstein (D-CA) 




Harkin (D-IA) 




Inouye (D-HI) 




Jeffords (I-VT) 




Kennedy (D-MA) 




Kerry (D-MA) Wanted to be President




Kohl (D-WI) 




Lautenberg (D-NJ) 




Leahy (D-VT) 




Levin (D-MI) 




Lieberman (D-CT) Disappointment here.....




Menendez (D-NJ) 




Mikulski (D-MD) 




Murray (D-WA) 




Obama (D-IL) Wants to be President?




Reed (D-RI) 




Reid (D-NV) Senate Majority Leader




Salazar (D-CO) 




Sarbanes (D-MD) 




Schumer (D-NY) 




Stabenow (D-M)




"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale, and undermine the military are saboteurs and should be arrested, exiled or hanged." 




~ President Abraham Lincoln  "   Amen  "




 









 

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