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I was merely stating there are TWO sides....

Posted By: watcher on 2009-06-17
In Reply to: where is the OTHER side of the story? - ()

to every story. I have not taken sides, as apparently you have. That is all I am saying. The Palestinians are not without fault either, and their present governing body are on the terror watch list. That should mean something....?


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Both sides should have a choice, on both sides, pregnant woman and doctor...nm
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Thank you for stating this.
there is a good chance Clinton is out or (which of course will happen) government will change the constitution.
Thanks for stating this. (NM)
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Stating that sin
is sin is not passing judgement. If I was judging, I would be telling people they were going to burn in hale. Anyone can repent of their sins but pointing out a sin is not a judgement. It's reiterating what God tells us.
Thank you for stating this.
This is why I am ticked off with Obama and government. He is just taking over EVERYTHING!
I was stating my opinion. sm

I was simply stating that my father has 3 purple hearts and I was a military dependent, living 6 years of my childhood in cold war Germany.  I am tired of the right referring to anyone who does not support the Iraq civil war as "unpatriotic".  I am a soldier's daughter, and I want our troops home, because I do support the troops.


 


Yes 911 was a terrible terrorist thing.  What does that have to do with Iraq?  Nothing.  Never has, never will. 


No problem....just stating
proven facts.  Hoover raised taxes during a recession and it lead to the great depression.  FDR spend money on goverment programs and it actually prolonged the duration of the depression.  History, my friends.....history.
Just stating facts
and the fact is that McPalin's campaign money was spent on those hateful calls.  Dirty, dirty politics.  I am just the messenger so don't take it out on me.
Just stating facts
Obama has been caught in lies and distorting the truth. One man cannot change this country. One man did not get this country into this mess. You can't blame the President for every dang thing happening.

Do you know what Obama called Pennsylvanians? "Those white people," "bitter," "cling to their guns and religion," "they'll call me a black man."

Sound like a great, caring candidate to you?

No, was just stating that we are still paying them...
its not like they are not getting an income while they are campaigning.

The point was that he could share his own wealth if he wanted to without being forced to by the government...lead by example, before he forces the rest of us to join in whether we want to or not.


True, but GM is stating it will take
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As my post above, stating
We did not rush in. Gave Iraq plenty of time so they could move their weapons.
Stating the obvious
resemble a personal attack. You have clearly defined yourself here. All I did was to tell it like it is.
I never heard her stating that about herself.
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If you are stating that he is lying, then
Yes, I did read the whole post. You wrote I'm more concerned about **the lying**, not **I would be concerned if I found out he was lying** or something along those lines.  **The lying** -- again, WHAT lying? 
If you had stopped at stating it was from Newsmax...
and not followed that with conservative propaganda in the body of your post...obviously said in an effort to discredit whatever was in the article. I can read between the lines, as can other posters, right and left, I feel sure.
Good for you for stating your views on the war then...
I find it ultra annoying when people start calling others unpatriotic when they don't agree with the war or something else the government is doing.  Isn't being passionate about what you feel is best for the country the epitome of patriotism!?  I think so.
I agree. Sam is stating the facts as well (sm)

as opinions.  Take them or leave them.  Stop bashing others for your benefit.  Sam is above that and doesn't play the bashing game.  Just a strong poster with opinions that don't agree with yours.  You guys are like a pack of wolves.  You are really full of yourselves, aren't you?  Shame on you. 


This is a forum for posting opinions, observations, and finds.  Leave it at that and stop the catfighting.


All I'm stating is that this election may determine
At no time did I say other countries are directly involved in our system of picking a President. (That system already sucks enough as it is. Look at the Florida fiasco a couple elections ago).

What I'm saying is, if we don't get some leaders in office that have less ego, and more people skills, who can speak AS WELL AS LISTEN, then we're doomed to continue to have the same problems, and very likely worse.

If our next leader is more into bombing than talking, then we better dust off our nuclear arsenal, 'cause we could end up having to use it. Personally, though, I'd rather see the next Prez. talking and using diplomacy, rather than bombing the s**t out of the rest of the world. What goes around does have a tendency to come around.


I haven't condemned anyone...just stating
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nope, just stating facts
and not providing backup - seems to be a common thing on this board. But, since I posted it, it must be true, and if you don't take me at my word, you are blinded by the light of your favorite (insert name here) politician.
I don't think there was any insinuation there. Just stating the facts. sm
Obama better wear a bullet proof vest all the time. I am voting for McCain, not because I like him but as a vote AGAINST Obama. I don't want a president that is not an American citizen much less one who believes in a different God than I do.


Stating our servicemen died for nothing.....
is misinterpreted. No one wants to lose one single troop. The war is senseless and our troops have to believe in what they are doing in order to survive. But, most could claim all wars are senseless. No, I did not know people were protesting our service people (the war, YES, but not our actual service members - head in the sand on that point). Ignorance, if they understood anything at all, they would understand that our troops are doing their jobs by following orders.
Horrible signs were stating
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Insinuating?? We're stating it as a fact!!!
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That is the most clear-cut stating of the facts that I have ever heard. sm
Unfortunately, this could go out on national TV and the Dems and others bowing at the "Altar of Obama" will just keep on blaming Bush and the Republicans.

I for one am going to send it to as many people as I can. It may not make a difference, but it sure can't hurt.
Palin stating Africa was a country

Liberal Media Bias: MSNBC Falls for Palin Africa/NAFTA Hoax -- But So Does Fox News




Even after losing the election, VP candidate Sarah Palin has continued to be in the news for various reasons. Among them was the claim that Palin is so stupid that she thought Africa was a continent, not a country. She was also said to not be able to name the three NAFTA countries. The source: “Unnamed former McCain advisers.”


Makes sense, right? After all, Sarah Palin is your typical simple-minded, non-Ivy-League-educated, baby-making, hick conservative Republican, right? She was John McCain’s middle finger to the American people, right libs?


Well, turns out the whole story is false, a hoax, a scam.


Only this time, one of the guilty parties is Fox News.


Nothing silly about stating obvious facts.
Voters recognized that and acted accordingly. It takes some longer than others to catch on.
What? She has a valid question and stating facts.
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What part of just stating fact escapes you?
didn't amount to a hill of beans when it came time for your representatives to roll their sleeves up and hammer out a compromise. My statements are supportive of bipartisan initiatives (as in both parties coming to a middle ground) that move us forward from here. Whether or not I agree with the plan, which side of the fence I live on or what percentage of support for the plan is reflected in the latest polls is immaterial at this point. I keep my eyes on the prize. Those folks needed to do THEIR JOBS, get past their differences, try to come up with solutions and do what is right for the economy...or at least give it their BEST shot. Go stir somebody else's pot.
Forget the bowing, how about Obama stating
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5104350/Republicans-slam-Barack-Obama-over-American-arrogance-speech.html

WHO THE HECK DOES HE THINK HE IS? PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD?

Obama states America is changing. America showed arrogance, been dismissive and even derisive and in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious and blah, blah, blah. He just LOVES making speeches.
Canadian citizen just on the news stating how its
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The b/c issue - Stating factcheck as a reliable source
Since they are all one in the same.  Factcheck is not an independent source.
McCain inside - stating his aspirations: I have always aspired to be a dictator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p94Nvs9sZSA&feature=related


 


You Bushies are struggling to find a new daddy.  Senator Hague (sp?) was a great senator and he was a logical man who appeared to be forthright - which is how I like my politicians.


It must be terrible for you to have had the man you placed in charge to have displaced blatant dereliction of duty in his handling of terrorism, the economy, international relations.  I know you credit him for "keep us safe for 8 years" but Osama bin laden speech clearly stated his aim was not to fly jets into buildings or drop dirty bombs off at bus stops - but bankrupt America by way of war.  This is retaliation against America for their involvement in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. 


http://mprofaca.cro.net/binladen_transcript.html


By the way, do you find it rather odd that of all the countries in the world collapsing from their involvement in the U.S. stock market and corporations, Israel is not and is, in fact, economically thriving quite well.  This is after veing at war nonstop for the past 15 years.  Do you find that unusual in the least?  Are you even curious about this since Paulson, Bernanke, Barney Frank along with the owners of the corporations that just been bailed out (why did they bail out freddie and fannie and not Indymac???  Why Bear Stearns and AIG but not Lehman Brothers????).


I have a feeling when everything is said and done, the world will realize we have been fleeced by an elite group of very determined men, men who have thought about this for years.  Bush is a Harvard bus school grad.  He appears stupid and everyone laughs and thinks it is endearing.  But i think he is acting - he thought Iraqi's would greet us with flowers and chocalate?  His father and Cheney have both been documented as saying a civil war would break out if Saddam was removed from power and that it would destabilize the middle east.


Bush and the republican party as they stand now are corrupt and I believe that many of the democrats are as well.  Special interests and corrupt America as bought them.  Now, you may disagree and defend every move made in the last eight years as smart but that is just your ego talking.


Repubs would be wise to listen to both sides a little more closely and raise your expectations for your next candidate. 


 


Bush is accountable for the mess the country is in.  He is a liar, a cheater and a thief - And you can bet he makes a bee line for So. America with his loot when his term is finally up.  Bush, it is stated, was actually a black sheep in his family (Jeb was supposed to be the Bush son who reached the presidency, not George who was not his father's favorite child). 


 


Exactly....and that happens on both sides...
in all seriousness...without the jibes...I have two big issues with the Dem candidates, that being the abortion issue and the endless tax and spend for social programs. I am not against social programs, I am just against the waste associated with it and the constant assault on the paycheck. The average in the US is 30-35% of your paycheck off the top in taxes. Can't we all agree that is enough? Why create more programs or throw more money at programs that aren't working? Why not look at the programs and cut the waste. Look to helping people better themselves instead of pushing assistance higher up the income ladder. Because it is we in the middle class who suffer the most. Pretty soon there will not be any middle class at all, because they will then be the working poor on the assistance that goes higher up the ladder.

There is such a thing as a conservative Democrat...who believes in fiscal responsibility.

And I will be the first one to say that the Bush Adminstration has strayed way away from that...fiscal responsibility. While I agree with him on some things...I sure don't agree with him on that.

I fear Hillary's national health plan because I know Canada's is not working the way it should...and it is horribly expensive to the taxpayer. Up there, their median is 50-55% of their taxes off the top, and the #1 place for that money to go is the universal health care. And even if you have the money to pay for an operation, you can't jump the waiting list. Hence, they come here for it.

I would just hope that whoever wins will look at the long-reaching ramifications before just jumping in. Be that Hillary or a Republican....because I do think Hillary will get the nomination. I can't see it go any other way...unless something drastic happens between now and the primary. Of course, we won't see all the ugliness (on both sides) until a little later. I guess the proof will be in the pudding.
What do you have against 2 sides
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Yes, they can be - on BOTH sides.
Someone makes a wise crack about it being nice to have someone with a triple digit IQ - when in FACT they don't know what Bush's IQ is OR the possible that Barack has a higher OR lower IQ score. The problem is the people who post don't know. They have just an outright hatred and loathing for the republicans. Well how would they feel if I went and said Obama has an IQ of 68 or something so absurd. They wouldn't. You know what, having a high IQ doesn't mean squat. I know a lot of people with degrees and high IQs and they are more of imbs than people without degrees. Just another put down for Bush they they think is cute and funny. It's not! We get it already. They don't like Bush, they hate him, and some of them like my MIL will come right out and say what they want to happen to Bush (i.e. the same thing Hillary said would happen to BO and that is why she is staying in).

I'm really getting tired of the utter hatred and disdain for Bush, and the constant Bush bashing I see on this board. Calling him stoopid, etc, etc. when there are no facts to back it up (unless they are sitting with his school transcipts on their desk). You know I like Obama. I think he's an okay guy. I don't care for Bush. Never have, but this utter hatred and lies get to be a bit too much. Then of course they find websites to try to "validate" what they are saying, yet they won't post websites that go against what they are saying. I'm just sick of the whole thing. The next 4 years should be interesting. Not going to say O is going to fail, but I'm also not putting him up on a pedistal and praising him while I dance around in circles chanting his name like most on this board are doing. Then again if he does fail I expect no comments from the libs on that one. For him it will be okay.
Uh...that isn't what I said. I said it happens all the time and both sides do it.
Are you sure you read MY post?  Just wondering because it didn't sound like it from your response.  Man, you guys are trigger happy!
Is good, but not see here. Sad for all both sides.
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Could it be possible there are 2 sides to the story? sm
The US, UK, and Israel also have a long and colorful history of 'creating incidents' to further their own agendas. I would say control of the Middle East is something at the top of the list. Hezbollah is wrong to send rockets into Israel. In fact, they are all wrong, but what do you expect them to do just wait there and be incinerated by Israel?
I'm sure both sides are represented.
There are soldiers for the war and those against.  It's all there if you look hard enough.  Absolutely....both sides are well represented.
Both sides say things like that
Obviously, living up someone's rear-end is not something that is to be taken literally - that is why I called it a joke - maybe not the best terminology.

My problem is when people say things about certain groups of people and they mean it literally - hence the reason that I specifically mentioned Anne Coulter's discussion and did not add anyone else mentioned in the OP's message.

This kind of crass talk happens on both sides of the fence. Do you have anyone in your family that is a registered Democrat? Do you lump them in with your comments about liberals? (also in comments on the conservative board) I have close family members that are registered Republicans. That is why I do not make sweeping remarks about all Republicans or conservatives. I'm trying to be very specific in my comments because everyone is obviously different.
Racism is on both sides......not just one
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Both sides of this issue.....sm
The emotional part of me, that loves wildlife, absolutely and completely hates this practice. The governor before Gov. Palin did this, as well.

Intellectually, however, my husband and I talked about this last night. I have to realize that things are different in the state of Alaska, and we down here in the lower 48 can't judge them for this, as we don't understand all the facts. Sam posted them down below. It's a different mindset, when it comes to predator control versus the herd availability for the people of Alaska who are subsistence hunters, and need that caribou to make it through the winter.

I would much rather to let nature take its course, and let the predator and prey take each other out, the way nature intended it. However, throw humans in the mix, and it does change things.

All that taken into account, I still don't have to like it. But I can respect Alaska's decision to do this, even if I disagree.
Yep. there are two sides to every story....
you just have to choose the side that fits your view for your country. Godspeed in your search. :)
On ALL sides--does not necessarily mean sm
this fiasco is partisan--only that the current administration (GOP) allowed all entities to run amok. It's the financial world versus the common man, now vice versa. As one pundit said tonight, The public shouldn't have to pick up the broken chairs when they weren't invited to the party.



Hey, the hate has come from both sides.
It's so extreme now.
There are SMs from both sides of the fence
Take the above posts, for example:

Fitzgerald renews interest in Rezko-Obama deal

If you read anything on here, read this.

This should disturb every honorable citizen

Your stereotypes are inaccurate and pretty boring.
I can see both sides of the argument
Yes, many people are getting threatened and businesses getting picketed for supporting Prop 8. You cannot deny that (what was the pink taliban or whatever that disrupted church service a month or so ago?)

But on the other hand, if they want these donations anonymous, than that means Obama and other politicians can make their donations anonymous, and I think it's the publics right to know who is financing the next leaders of the country.

I just find it interesting that the homosexuals are assaulting and threatening supporters of the Prop 8 for what they believe in when they themselves are asking for fair treatment for what they believe in.
I am patriotic. I look at both sides.

It's certain people that refuse to look at the PRESENT ISSUES, not the PAST. I am all for O doing the right things, but right now, it looks like business as usual with the exception of his cabinet picks and this stimulus package.


Sticking to the issues is one thing. Calling some unpatriotic just because they don't agree with you is another.


nasty on all sides
Can't we just state our opinions without calling each other "idiots" and "children?"  Does that really enhance the argument?  Ever?