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Stating the obvious

Posted By: does not in any way on 2009-02-04
In Reply to: And now we revert to personal attacks - MT in PA

resemble a personal attack. You have clearly defined yourself here. All I did was to tell it like it is.


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Nothing silly about stating obvious facts.
Voters recognized that and acted accordingly. It takes some longer than others to catch on.
Thank you for stating this.
there is a good chance Clinton is out or (which of course will happen) government will change the constitution.
Thanks for stating this. (NM)
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Stating that sin
is sin is not passing judgement. If I was judging, I would be telling people they were going to burn in hale. Anyone can repent of their sins but pointing out a sin is not a judgement. It's reiterating what God tells us.
Thank you for stating this.
This is why I am ticked off with Obama and government. He is just taking over EVERYTHING!
I was stating my opinion. sm

I was simply stating that my father has 3 purple hearts and I was a military dependent, living 6 years of my childhood in cold war Germany.  I am tired of the right referring to anyone who does not support the Iraq civil war as "unpatriotic".  I am a soldier's daughter, and I want our troops home, because I do support the troops.


 


Yes 911 was a terrible terrorist thing.  What does that have to do with Iraq?  Nothing.  Never has, never will. 


No problem....just stating
proven facts.  Hoover raised taxes during a recession and it lead to the great depression.  FDR spend money on goverment programs and it actually prolonged the duration of the depression.  History, my friends.....history.
Just stating facts
and the fact is that McPalin's campaign money was spent on those hateful calls.  Dirty, dirty politics.  I am just the messenger so don't take it out on me.
Just stating facts
Obama has been caught in lies and distorting the truth. One man cannot change this country. One man did not get this country into this mess. You can't blame the President for every dang thing happening.

Do you know what Obama called Pennsylvanians? "Those white people," "bitter," "cling to their guns and religion," "they'll call me a black man."

Sound like a great, caring candidate to you?

No, was just stating that we are still paying them...
its not like they are not getting an income while they are campaigning.

The point was that he could share his own wealth if he wanted to without being forced to by the government...lead by example, before he forces the rest of us to join in whether we want to or not.


True, but GM is stating it will take
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As my post above, stating
We did not rush in. Gave Iraq plenty of time so they could move their weapons.
I never heard her stating that about herself.
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If you are stating that he is lying, then
Yes, I did read the whole post. You wrote I'm more concerned about **the lying**, not **I would be concerned if I found out he was lying** or something along those lines.  **The lying** -- again, WHAT lying? 
I was merely stating there are TWO sides....
to every story. I have not taken sides, as apparently you have. That is all I am saying. The Palestinians are not without fault either, and their present governing body are on the terror watch list. That should mean something....?
If you had stopped at stating it was from Newsmax...
and not followed that with conservative propaganda in the body of your post...obviously said in an effort to discredit whatever was in the article. I can read between the lines, as can other posters, right and left, I feel sure.
Good for you for stating your views on the war then...
I find it ultra annoying when people start calling others unpatriotic when they don't agree with the war or something else the government is doing.  Isn't being passionate about what you feel is best for the country the epitome of patriotism!?  I think so.
I agree. Sam is stating the facts as well (sm)

as opinions.  Take them or leave them.  Stop bashing others for your benefit.  Sam is above that and doesn't play the bashing game.  Just a strong poster with opinions that don't agree with yours.  You guys are like a pack of wolves.  You are really full of yourselves, aren't you?  Shame on you. 


This is a forum for posting opinions, observations, and finds.  Leave it at that and stop the catfighting.


All I'm stating is that this election may determine
At no time did I say other countries are directly involved in our system of picking a President. (That system already sucks enough as it is. Look at the Florida fiasco a couple elections ago).

What I'm saying is, if we don't get some leaders in office that have less ego, and more people skills, who can speak AS WELL AS LISTEN, then we're doomed to continue to have the same problems, and very likely worse.

If our next leader is more into bombing than talking, then we better dust off our nuclear arsenal, 'cause we could end up having to use it. Personally, though, I'd rather see the next Prez. talking and using diplomacy, rather than bombing the s**t out of the rest of the world. What goes around does have a tendency to come around.


I haven't condemned anyone...just stating
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nope, just stating facts
and not providing backup - seems to be a common thing on this board. But, since I posted it, it must be true, and if you don't take me at my word, you are blinded by the light of your favorite (insert name here) politician.
I don't think there was any insinuation there. Just stating the facts. sm
Obama better wear a bullet proof vest all the time. I am voting for McCain, not because I like him but as a vote AGAINST Obama. I don't want a president that is not an American citizen much less one who believes in a different God than I do.


Stating our servicemen died for nothing.....
is misinterpreted. No one wants to lose one single troop. The war is senseless and our troops have to believe in what they are doing in order to survive. But, most could claim all wars are senseless. No, I did not know people were protesting our service people (the war, YES, but not our actual service members - head in the sand on that point). Ignorance, if they understood anything at all, they would understand that our troops are doing their jobs by following orders.
Horrible signs were stating
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Insinuating?? We're stating it as a fact!!!
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That is the most clear-cut stating of the facts that I have ever heard. sm
Unfortunately, this could go out on national TV and the Dems and others bowing at the "Altar of Obama" will just keep on blaming Bush and the Republicans.

I for one am going to send it to as many people as I can. It may not make a difference, but it sure can't hurt.
Palin stating Africa was a country

Liberal Media Bias: MSNBC Falls for Palin Africa/NAFTA Hoax -- But So Does Fox News




Even after losing the election, VP candidate Sarah Palin has continued to be in the news for various reasons. Among them was the claim that Palin is so stupid that she thought Africa was a continent, not a country. She was also said to not be able to name the three NAFTA countries. The source: “Unnamed former McCain advisers.”


Makes sense, right? After all, Sarah Palin is your typical simple-minded, non-Ivy-League-educated, baby-making, hick conservative Republican, right? She was John McCain’s middle finger to the American people, right libs?


Well, turns out the whole story is false, a hoax, a scam.


Only this time, one of the guilty parties is Fox News.


What? She has a valid question and stating facts.
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What part of just stating fact escapes you?
didn't amount to a hill of beans when it came time for your representatives to roll their sleeves up and hammer out a compromise. My statements are supportive of bipartisan initiatives (as in both parties coming to a middle ground) that move us forward from here. Whether or not I agree with the plan, which side of the fence I live on or what percentage of support for the plan is reflected in the latest polls is immaterial at this point. I keep my eyes on the prize. Those folks needed to do THEIR JOBS, get past their differences, try to come up with solutions and do what is right for the economy...or at least give it their BEST shot. Go stir somebody else's pot.
Forget the bowing, how about Obama stating
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5104350/Republicans-slam-Barack-Obama-over-American-arrogance-speech.html

WHO THE HECK DOES HE THINK HE IS? PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD?

Obama states America is changing. America showed arrogance, been dismissive and even derisive and in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious and blah, blah, blah. He just LOVES making speeches.
Canadian citizen just on the news stating how its
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The b/c issue - Stating factcheck as a reliable source
Since they are all one in the same.  Factcheck is not an independent source.
McCain inside - stating his aspirations: I have always aspired to be a dictator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p94Nvs9sZSA&feature=related


 


You Bushies are struggling to find a new daddy.  Senator Hague (sp?) was a great senator and he was a logical man who appeared to be forthright - which is how I like my politicians.


It must be terrible for you to have had the man you placed in charge to have displaced blatant dereliction of duty in his handling of terrorism, the economy, international relations.  I know you credit him for "keep us safe for 8 years" but Osama bin laden speech clearly stated his aim was not to fly jets into buildings or drop dirty bombs off at bus stops - but bankrupt America by way of war.  This is retaliation against America for their involvement in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. 


http://mprofaca.cro.net/binladen_transcript.html


By the way, do you find it rather odd that of all the countries in the world collapsing from their involvement in the U.S. stock market and corporations, Israel is not and is, in fact, economically thriving quite well.  This is after veing at war nonstop for the past 15 years.  Do you find that unusual in the least?  Are you even curious about this since Paulson, Bernanke, Barney Frank along with the owners of the corporations that just been bailed out (why did they bail out freddie and fannie and not Indymac???  Why Bear Stearns and AIG but not Lehman Brothers????).


I have a feeling when everything is said and done, the world will realize we have been fleeced by an elite group of very determined men, men who have thought about this for years.  Bush is a Harvard bus school grad.  He appears stupid and everyone laughs and thinks it is endearing.  But i think he is acting - he thought Iraqi's would greet us with flowers and chocalate?  His father and Cheney have both been documented as saying a civil war would break out if Saddam was removed from power and that it would destabilize the middle east.


Bush and the republican party as they stand now are corrupt and I believe that many of the democrats are as well.  Special interests and corrupt America as bought them.  Now, you may disagree and defend every move made in the last eight years as smart but that is just your ego talking.


Repubs would be wise to listen to both sides a little more closely and raise your expectations for your next candidate. 


 


Bush is accountable for the mess the country is in.  He is a liar, a cheater and a thief - And you can bet he makes a bee line for So. America with his loot when his term is finally up.  Bush, it is stated, was actually a black sheep in his family (Jeb was supposed to be the Bush son who reached the presidency, not George who was not his father's favorite child). 


 


It is obvious

It is obvious this poster is a conservative coming over to the liberal board to try to start some trouble. Fortunately, liberals know to let people speak their minds, think out things and speak them.  Unfortunately conservatives like to squash that, everyone should think like them and god forbid, if they dont, they will be eliminated.  I ask, who posted this against a liberal poster who was speaking his/her mind?  Come forward and state who you are and defend your actions of reporting the liberal poster to the administration..Come on out and tell the liberal board who you are and why you did this.


Oh gee, it was so obvious....
When asked the question about who he thinks will win the presidency, he couldn't answer without pausing. It was so obvious he doesn't want Obama to win but, of course, saying that would go against his party lines so he and Hillary just sit and wait until 2012, hoping for the next chance.

This lady does not want to play second fiddle to Obama.

Bill says he is working with many organizations that help around the world and listed several of them.
Yes, it would seem obvious, but....
the devotion of his followers is almost cult-like. And they absolutely cannot understand anyone who doesn't adore him. Sigh.
Well isn't it obvious?

People in the armed forces are generally conservative people and would likely vote McCain.  So of course this hasn't been fixed because they don't want McCain voters to vote.  Homeless people living on park benches, however, would only have to hear about Obama spreading the wealth and they would be on board for Barrack Obama therefore giving him more votes.  You do the math.


I am totally disgusted by the corruption in this election.  The voter registration fraud as well as the voter fraud that has happened is just plain wrong.  Letting homeless people with no address vote is just opening up a chance for more voter fraud.  Taking away the right of our armed forces to vote because of a glitch is just wrong. They are fighting and risking their lives and we can't even do right by them when it comes to making THEIR vote count.  Of all people in this country, don't you think they have the most right to vote.  They are the ones fighting for us while we sit here and complain about everything from the safety of our computers. 


That is quite obvious from all your
FOX IS BETTER!! Check the real ratings, not the ones they lie about on MSNBC! And, it is fair and balanced.
it is so obvious...
from all of your posts that you are quite convinced no one else knows anything. just following this thread demonstrates it. Face it, some people think differently than you do. Geez, it is possible they could even be right? someone who sees things differently than you could be right?? So you just keep typing away and thinking that you know more than those members of the military actually serving who think differently than you do. The only ones that you even consider are the ones who think like you. Whatever. Your over-rated opinion of yourself does not merit further comment.
It's also obvious that...(sm)

you have nothing constructive to say (from either side), rather you just look for opportunities to take a jab at someone with a different opinion.  If you were actually following this thread (which I seriously doubt), you would know that this is about the amount and content of news allowed for soldiers at war.  It has nothing to do with me being smarter than them, it has to do with availability of information.


Considering your obvious impressive disinterest in the subject being discussed, might I suggest you start your own post on a subject that interests you and call it *I don't like people who disagree with me.*


It is very obvious, you go where ever
source supporting your views; especially those who support your views and who have nothing good to say about our great U.S.A.!
The obvious is always ignored ..........
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Well, I do think that about JBB....that has been obvious
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She's only saying what is very obvious from your posts!

It was obvious you were speaking for
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The obvious response would be
if it bothers you so much, why do you watch it?  I assume you possess free will.   No big bad mean Republican has super-glued your dial to Fox News, I am assuming? 
Sorry, it's obvious I am bumfoozled. sm

I already explained it so sorry for the mistake.


your point is obvious

What is not so obvious is how you keep that funny little hat perched atop it . . .


 


Oh but it is so obvious how much you do care!
You post about it repeatedly, you taunt, you deny, then you rehash the whole thing again and then you end by more taunting.  This applies not only to your moniker-obsessing but your posting style in general.  You might try reading and thinking about what you post some time.  You come across as very un-genuine and in deep deep denial about your own behavior.  I am sure this is not the first time you have heard this comment, either, This could explain why you resort to mocking people on an anonymous board in addition to why you have so very much time to spend on a computer. 
An obvious question would be...
why would anyone wait until you are sick to get insurance? That is like trying to get flood insurance when they have 2 feet of water in their house. I don't think anyone should expect an insurance company to insure them in either case. If an insurance company was forced to insure a person who waited until they were sick to get insurance, who had not paid one premium prior to that...how unfair is that to the people who have paid premiums into that company for years and had not had a claim, their premiums would go to take care of a person who never sought insurance until they were sick. Plus, if insurance companies were forced to do that...within a month several thousand people who had insurance would stop paying insurance premiums and not try to get insurance back until they got sick. No premiums, no money to pay out, insurance company goes belly up and no one has insurance. I am not sure exactly where you are going with this...maybe I am misunderstanding?
It was NOT obvious it was a joke -
This is what McCain is about. He obviously wants to wipe out other nations. He's been heard singing about it. This is not "amusing", this is not "cute", this is not "a joke", and this is certainly not "Statesmanlike". As for Michelle's comment. If Obama had said it, yes I would say go after him. But she is not running for President, and when it comes to this people always say leave Cindy McCain alone even though she's said and done some whoppers in the past. We all know what Michelle meant and I feel bad she added the word "first" in there. This is called a mistake. Everyone makes them. This was not a serious mistake. I'll tell you though...there is not a lot to be proud of. Bush's, Clinton's, slimy politicians and lawyers and corporate executives destroying hard working Americans lives. Nobody caring about people losing their homes, gas prices rising, gouging of other costs. Executives being dismissed from jobs but receiving multi million dollar settlements, while the workers lose their jobs with nothing. You tell me what is there to be proud of. We've still got a long way to go in race relations as unfortunately there are still a lot of biggots in this country who believe because of the color of his skin he should not be president. But to harp on this issue because Michelle said the word "first". Everyone knows what she meant (even Mrs. Bush made a statement in that regard). As for Barack sitting down with our enemies - you better count on it if we ever plan to get along with other countries. You HAVE to sit with your enemies and work out a strategy to live on the earth together in peace (even Kennedy, Carter, and Reagan have all said that). Not coward and hide in a corner like McCain would (oh no, that's right - he'd obliterate them). Let the Michelle comment rest and focus on what the candidates are saying (or not saying) and doing. Look at their records. Leave Cindy M and Michelle O out of it.