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Insinuating?? We're stating it as a fact!!!

Posted By: To the bone........nm on 2008-09-20
In Reply to: Are you insinuating that Obama is a communist? - What!

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What part of just stating fact escapes you?
didn't amount to a hill of beans when it came time for your representatives to roll their sleeves up and hammer out a compromise. My statements are supportive of bipartisan initiatives (as in both parties coming to a middle ground) that move us forward from here. Whether or not I agree with the plan, which side of the fence I live on or what percentage of support for the plan is reflected in the latest polls is immaterial at this point. I keep my eyes on the prize. Those folks needed to do THEIR JOBS, get past their differences, try to come up with solutions and do what is right for the economy...or at least give it their BEST shot. Go stir somebody else's pot.
You're just prejudiced. That is not based in fact...
Just because you say that's what he'll do, doesn't make it so.

You just wish he was as bad as you think he is.


Fact is that he's kept you safe in your own country for over 7 years.


But you'll never admit it.



So what are you insinuating?
Stop this nonsense. Why can't we have an INTELLIGENT conversation on this board anymore?

You know what? I don't give a rat's patooty anymore. I am done with this board and all the mean, nasty, small minded people. My mental health is worth a whole lot more to me than the lunacy I have witnessed on this board of late.

I feel sorry for those of you who feel compelled to come here day in and day out and fight with each other over basically nothing.... "I'm a better American than you"..."No! I'm a better American than you."

I hope that someday you will see your way off this board and back to real life.

So long. It used to be fun...but that was a LONG time ago.

I wish you all the best.
Since you are insinuating that I am prejudiced...
I am in a very long-term relationship with a man that I intend to spend the rest of my life with. I have 2 back brother-in-laws and a black son-in-law. I have 2 mixed grandchildren, 4 mixed nieces and nephews, and 4 mixed "stepchildren". I am most certainly not prejudiced.

I made that comment about not being prejudiced because a lot of people will accuse you of being prejudiced if you speak negatively in any way about black people. I do not feel like it is just a black people problem, I do not feel like it is every black man, but it is a problem with black people.

In just my family, I have an ex-brother-in-law who now has 7 children and pays no child support for any of them and only spends time with my nieces and nephews about 3 times a year and NEVER sees 2 of his children at all; I have an ex-brother-in-law who has 3 children, pays no child support, had his rights to my nephew legally taken away by the courts and he does not spend any time with his other 2 children; I have an ex-son-in-law who now has 5 children and 1 coming soon and he only pays child support to my daughter because they were married and it was ordered in the divorce, but never has even acknowledged the youngest of their children in the last year (saw her for 1 hour afte she was born and in the past year has never even said her name, calls her "that girl"), never has seen 2 of his other children at all and does not pay them child support.

But on the good side - I have a son-in-law who has taken it upon himself to become my grandson and granddaughter's "daddy" because their dad is not trying to be in their life any more than calling my daughter repeatedly and asking for his child support back to "fix his car", "to pay my power bill", "to buy some gas".

On the other hand, I have a brother-in-law now that has adopted my nephew and is wonderful with him and his biological child - spending time with them on the ballfields, at the school plays, at the dance recitals, going to church, etc.

I have a brother-in-law who has taken it upon himself to help my other sister with her 2 children and be the involved "father" in their life where their biological father is not.

No, I am not prejudiced... just see the world as it is!
No one's insinuating anything. In your words,
This rhetoric is hate-filled bigotry at its worst. These lies will do nothing to advance the success of your party. Stupid is too kind. Ignorant would be more accurate.
Are you insinuating that Obama is a communist?
What the heck are you drinking or smoking? Sam thinks he a socialist, you think he is a communist, and the reality is he is a highly-educated, well-qualified democrat presidential candidate that could possibly be the best thing this country has seen in at least 8 years!
Any kind of inflammatory insinuating remarks
for the sole purpose of misleading uneducated voters, in my eyes, is a deliberate act of desperation by a group that has absolutely no integrity at all.  Someone who is so vile as to suggest that Obama would endanger our troops if he is elected is less than human.  Barack Obama wants nothing more than to get our poor troops out of an endless, senseless situation.  If I wasn't so disgusted by that kind of mindless drivel that many of you are so willing to bow down to, I could almost feel sorry for you. 
The fact that an article was written does not make it fact. I hope you know that. nm
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Thank you for stating this.
there is a good chance Clinton is out or (which of course will happen) government will change the constitution.
Thanks for stating this. (NM)
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Stating that sin
is sin is not passing judgement. If I was judging, I would be telling people they were going to burn in hale. Anyone can repent of their sins but pointing out a sin is not a judgement. It's reiterating what God tells us.
Thank you for stating this.
This is why I am ticked off with Obama and government. He is just taking over EVERYTHING!
I was stating my opinion. sm

I was simply stating that my father has 3 purple hearts and I was a military dependent, living 6 years of my childhood in cold war Germany.  I am tired of the right referring to anyone who does not support the Iraq civil war as "unpatriotic".  I am a soldier's daughter, and I want our troops home, because I do support the troops.


 


Yes 911 was a terrible terrorist thing.  What does that have to do with Iraq?  Nothing.  Never has, never will. 


No problem....just stating
proven facts.  Hoover raised taxes during a recession and it lead to the great depression.  FDR spend money on goverment programs and it actually prolonged the duration of the depression.  History, my friends.....history.
Just stating facts
and the fact is that McPalin's campaign money was spent on those hateful calls.  Dirty, dirty politics.  I am just the messenger so don't take it out on me.
Just stating facts
Obama has been caught in lies and distorting the truth. One man cannot change this country. One man did not get this country into this mess. You can't blame the President for every dang thing happening.

Do you know what Obama called Pennsylvanians? "Those white people," "bitter," "cling to their guns and religion," "they'll call me a black man."

Sound like a great, caring candidate to you?

No, was just stating that we are still paying them...
its not like they are not getting an income while they are campaigning.

The point was that he could share his own wealth if he wanted to without being forced to by the government...lead by example, before he forces the rest of us to join in whether we want to or not.


True, but GM is stating it will take
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As my post above, stating
We did not rush in. Gave Iraq plenty of time so they could move their weapons.
Stating the obvious
resemble a personal attack. You have clearly defined yourself here. All I did was to tell it like it is.
I never heard her stating that about herself.
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If you are stating that he is lying, then
Yes, I did read the whole post. You wrote I'm more concerned about **the lying**, not **I would be concerned if I found out he was lying** or something along those lines.  **The lying** -- again, WHAT lying? 
I was merely stating there are TWO sides....
to every story. I have not taken sides, as apparently you have. That is all I am saying. The Palestinians are not without fault either, and their present governing body are on the terror watch list. That should mean something....?
If you had stopped at stating it was from Newsmax...
and not followed that with conservative propaganda in the body of your post...obviously said in an effort to discredit whatever was in the article. I can read between the lines, as can other posters, right and left, I feel sure.
Good for you for stating your views on the war then...
I find it ultra annoying when people start calling others unpatriotic when they don't agree with the war or something else the government is doing.  Isn't being passionate about what you feel is best for the country the epitome of patriotism!?  I think so.
I agree. Sam is stating the facts as well (sm)

as opinions.  Take them or leave them.  Stop bashing others for your benefit.  Sam is above that and doesn't play the bashing game.  Just a strong poster with opinions that don't agree with yours.  You guys are like a pack of wolves.  You are really full of yourselves, aren't you?  Shame on you. 


This is a forum for posting opinions, observations, and finds.  Leave it at that and stop the catfighting.


All I'm stating is that this election may determine
At no time did I say other countries are directly involved in our system of picking a President. (That system already sucks enough as it is. Look at the Florida fiasco a couple elections ago).

What I'm saying is, if we don't get some leaders in office that have less ego, and more people skills, who can speak AS WELL AS LISTEN, then we're doomed to continue to have the same problems, and very likely worse.

If our next leader is more into bombing than talking, then we better dust off our nuclear arsenal, 'cause we could end up having to use it. Personally, though, I'd rather see the next Prez. talking and using diplomacy, rather than bombing the s**t out of the rest of the world. What goes around does have a tendency to come around.


I haven't condemned anyone...just stating
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nope, just stating facts
and not providing backup - seems to be a common thing on this board. But, since I posted it, it must be true, and if you don't take me at my word, you are blinded by the light of your favorite (insert name here) politician.
I don't think there was any insinuation there. Just stating the facts. sm
Obama better wear a bullet proof vest all the time. I am voting for McCain, not because I like him but as a vote AGAINST Obama. I don't want a president that is not an American citizen much less one who believes in a different God than I do.


Stating our servicemen died for nothing.....
is misinterpreted. No one wants to lose one single troop. The war is senseless and our troops have to believe in what they are doing in order to survive. But, most could claim all wars are senseless. No, I did not know people were protesting our service people (the war, YES, but not our actual service members - head in the sand on that point). Ignorance, if they understood anything at all, they would understand that our troops are doing their jobs by following orders.
Horrible signs were stating
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That is the most clear-cut stating of the facts that I have ever heard. sm
Unfortunately, this could go out on national TV and the Dems and others bowing at the "Altar of Obama" will just keep on blaming Bush and the Republicans.

I for one am going to send it to as many people as I can. It may not make a difference, but it sure can't hurt.
Palin stating Africa was a country

Liberal Media Bias: MSNBC Falls for Palin Africa/NAFTA Hoax -- But So Does Fox News




Even after losing the election, VP candidate Sarah Palin has continued to be in the news for various reasons. Among them was the claim that Palin is so stupid that she thought Africa was a continent, not a country. She was also said to not be able to name the three NAFTA countries. The source: “Unnamed former McCain advisers.”


Makes sense, right? After all, Sarah Palin is your typical simple-minded, non-Ivy-League-educated, baby-making, hick conservative Republican, right? She was John McCain’s middle finger to the American people, right libs?


Well, turns out the whole story is false, a hoax, a scam.


Only this time, one of the guilty parties is Fox News.


Nothing silly about stating obvious facts.
Voters recognized that and acted accordingly. It takes some longer than others to catch on.
What? She has a valid question and stating facts.
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Forget the bowing, how about Obama stating
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/5104350/Republicans-slam-Barack-Obama-over-American-arrogance-speech.html

WHO THE HECK DOES HE THINK HE IS? PRESIDENT OF THE WORLD?

Obama states America is changing. America showed arrogance, been dismissive and even derisive and in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious and blah, blah, blah. He just LOVES making speeches.
Canadian citizen just on the news stating how its
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The b/c issue - Stating factcheck as a reliable source
Since they are all one in the same.  Factcheck is not an independent source.
McCain inside - stating his aspirations: I have always aspired to be a dictator.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p94Nvs9sZSA&feature=related


 


You Bushies are struggling to find a new daddy.  Senator Hague (sp?) was a great senator and he was a logical man who appeared to be forthright - which is how I like my politicians.


It must be terrible for you to have had the man you placed in charge to have displaced blatant dereliction of duty in his handling of terrorism, the economy, international relations.  I know you credit him for "keep us safe for 8 years" but Osama bin laden speech clearly stated his aim was not to fly jets into buildings or drop dirty bombs off at bus stops - but bankrupt America by way of war.  This is retaliation against America for their involvement in the Israeli Palestinian conflict. 


http://mprofaca.cro.net/binladen_transcript.html


By the way, do you find it rather odd that of all the countries in the world collapsing from their involvement in the U.S. stock market and corporations, Israel is not and is, in fact, economically thriving quite well.  This is after veing at war nonstop for the past 15 years.  Do you find that unusual in the least?  Are you even curious about this since Paulson, Bernanke, Barney Frank along with the owners of the corporations that just been bailed out (why did they bail out freddie and fannie and not Indymac???  Why Bear Stearns and AIG but not Lehman Brothers????).


I have a feeling when everything is said and done, the world will realize we have been fleeced by an elite group of very determined men, men who have thought about this for years.  Bush is a Harvard bus school grad.  He appears stupid and everyone laughs and thinks it is endearing.  But i think he is acting - he thought Iraqi's would greet us with flowers and chocalate?  His father and Cheney have both been documented as saying a civil war would break out if Saddam was removed from power and that it would destabilize the middle east.


Bush and the republican party as they stand now are corrupt and I believe that many of the democrats are as well.  Special interests and corrupt America as bought them.  Now, you may disagree and defend every move made in the last eight years as smart but that is just your ego talking.


Repubs would be wise to listen to both sides a little more closely and raise your expectations for your next candidate. 


 


Bush is accountable for the mess the country is in.  He is a liar, a cheater and a thief - And you can bet he makes a bee line for So. America with his loot when his term is finally up.  Bush, it is stated, was actually a black sheep in his family (Jeb was supposed to be the Bush son who reached the presidency, not George who was not his father's favorite child). 


 


You're entitled to your opinion. I guess it depends on what side of the spectrum you're on.nm
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We're not defending Bush we're pointing out the obvious
All you see in your view is Bush, Bush, Bush. Nobody else exists. You have yet to answer any of the questions I posed yesterday. We're not the one obsessing about Bush. I'm sure you'll counter that with I don't owe you any answers! It's really telling that for five or six days this board was mute about the Israel/Lebanon situation. You were too busy posting trash news about Bush like nothing was even happening, but I know that the left has wait for its talking points. You all cannot formulate opinions on your own. You have boilerplates ready to go though. *This is Bush's fault because _____________ but you have to wait on Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, etc. etc. to fill in the blanks for you. It's not just a phenomenon here but with all the left. You can count on at least two days of silence when something unforseen breaks out in the world, because they have to retreat to their bunkers to get their talking points straight, but it will always start with *This is Bush's fault because....
Hey, if they're smoking cigs, they're paying for SCHIP.
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They're too lazy to show patriotism......they're waiting
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So you're not racist but you're most definitely SEXIST and AGEIST!!!
"Someone more in our age group..."

"She should be taking care of her family."

Your true colors are showing, and they're truly ugly.
Just because they're LOSING doesn't mean they're VICTIMS.
What is it with people these days? You think that just because Hamas is getting its fanny handed to it that that magically makes them victims, and we should all weep and throw cash at them?

From the dawn of time, lesser civilizations have fallen to stronger ones.

It's why the human species survived and the neanderthals didn't.

It's why Rome conquered the Celts.

It's why the Barbarians conquered the Western Roman Empire.

It's why the British conquered the American Indians.

It's why the Spanish conquered the Aztecs.

It's why the Muslims conquered Israel the first time. But, since their societal progres seems to have permanently parked in the Stone Age, now Israel is conquering them right back.

Deal with it.
You're right. They're simply not worthy of a reply.

stating facts folks, just the facts....if it's getting
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They're not tax breaks....they're tax credits
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I'm snotty, you're rude...we're even....
My dearrrr....not everyone in this country pays taxes. So you are wrong there. Obama said "spread the wealth." From his own mouth. The interview in Canada...economic parity and redistribution. Words from HIS mouth. If you believed those words from his mouth as much as you believed other words from his mouth, you would know he is a socialist. Selective memory is a wonderful thing ain't it??
You're right. They're all wack-jobs... nothing
so they try to make themselves feel important by standing around on street corners with their posters and their dollies.

Most of them are just buffoons, good for nothing other than being laughed at by the rest of us. But the ones that totally lose all reason, and go so far as to shoot people (in a church of all places...) is pretty off the deep end.