Nobody is denying the gays the right to assembly...
Posted By: Kendra on 2009-05-29
In Reply to: Normally I would have sympathy for these people...(sm) - Just the big bad
also, you really have no idea what this particular group of people feel about gays or anything else. There are Christians who are sympathetic to gay marriage. Not me, but that is beside the point. To be honest, I think that they should file the proper paperwork and follow the law, I just think your argument is flawed.
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Not DENYING anything
Just stating my opinion and religious beliefs on the matter.
Shame on you for denying someone else
their freedom of speech. As bad as you HATE it you people don't speak for everybody...
Who's denying her freedom of speech.sm
What you guys want is for her freedom of speech to go unanswered. Since she is an army mom then we should worship her and allow her to dump on us because of our beliefs.
If she wants praise and high-fives she should be posting on the conservative board.
The only point I can see is....he keeps denying the rock star thing...
and then has a rock star set designer do the set. Okay...so which is it?
McCain is not a Bush clone. The two are nothing alike. But, of course, to know that you would have to research it and would actually have to care about accuracy.
'Nuff said.
So then you are denying that you guys call all conservative posters liars? sm
If you did, that would be a lie.
There is a difference between courts agreeing and denying based on standing...
Where did gays come from?
Answer: I don't know. Without starting world war 3, my PERSONAL belief is that it is a choice. Others would not agree. I do know that kids are great imitators and if they are raised by gays I expect they will see being gay as the "normal" way of life and that is against everything in nature. Again, my PERSONAL belief, if God had intended to have Adam and Steve He would not have created Adam and Eve.
You are the one who was agains the gays
Christ wasn't like that, so why call yourself a Christian?
Do I hate gays? No. Do I think I'm better
than a homosexual? No, again. Do I agree with their lifestyle? No. In the same regard, do I think I'm better than an alcoholic/drug addict/adulterer/etc? No. Do I agree with their lifestyle? No. My feelings about the rightness or wrongness of homosexuality are a personal conviction. I am a Christian, but I don't hate. I may not like what they do, what they believe in, but they still have a soul, and, as a Christian, the Bible commands me to love my neighbor as myself. No hate involved at all. Just a difference of beliefs. 
I don't think gays and lesbians are
second class citizens. What in the world is the big deal??? What is it they want? Look how many heterosexual couples live together without benefit of marriage. Well, maybe this push for gays and lesbians to be able to marry is instigated by some lawyers who see more dollars from divorce court. Next thing we know Mormon polygomists (sp?) will be demanding their rights to marry 500 women. Why don't we just go ahead and throw all morality right out the window.
Gays have a right to marry
I sincerely believe that all are equal on this planet. Why would we want to deprive them of happiness?
except that most gays are about INCLUSION, not
They believe in 'live and let live', NOT 'my way or the highway'.
Then gays and lesbians should do the same
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It has never been a right for gays to marry....
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Christians don't hate gays
but the Bible says it is a sin. We love gay people and hope that they come to know the Lord and in doing so will understand it's a sin. Marriage is for a man and a woman.
Please, if you don't really understand Christianity, don't speak about it. People make so many assumptions about what we believe.
Love the person, hate the sin. We are all sinners. Gays are no worse than us. My telling a little white lie is just as much of a sin as someone being gay which is just as much of a sin as someone killing a child. In God's eyes there are no "levels" of sin. That's why we need Jesus, to pay our sin debt, because all the good works in the world can't save us.
Flame away...
Ummm...I think gays care. lol. That...
being said..."it doesn't affect my paycheck.." is that your barometer for whether something matters to you? Just wondering.
And secondly...threw it on the ballot to manipulate voters? Manipulate them how? You don't have to vote for...or against...on everything on the ballot.
You hate blacks AND gays? You think Fox is the news..
I am not answering any more of your racist, rude dumb posts. Talk to yourself, all 3 or more of your selves that you are posting here so obviously.
Judge overturns Florida ban on adoption by gays
(CNN) -- A Florida circuit judge Tuesday struck down a 31-year-old state law that prevents gays and lesbians from adopting children, allowing a North Miami man to adopt two half-brothers he and his partner have raised as foster children since 2004.
"There is no question, the blanket exclusion of gay applicants defeats Florida's goal of providing dependent children a permanent family through adoption," Judge Cindy S. Lederman wrote in her 53-page ruling.
"The best interests of children are not preserved by prohibiting homosexual adoption."
The state attorney general's office has appealed the decision.
Lederman said there is no moral or scientific reason for banning gays and lesbians from adopting, despite the state's arguments otherwise. The state argued that gays and lesbians have higher odds of suffering from depression, affective and anxiety disorders and substance abuse, and that their households are more unstable.
Lederman said the ban violated children's right to permanency provided under the Florida statute and under the federal Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997. Whether the ban violated the state's equal protection clause by singling out gays and lesbians should be considered, she said.
Lederman's ruling paves the way for Martin Gill to legally adopt the two half-brothers, ages 4 and 8, whom he has cared for since December 2004, the American Civil Liberties Union said.
The two boys, who are referred to as John and James Doe in court documents, were removed from their homes on allegations of abandonment and neglect.
On that December evening, John and James left a world of chronic neglect, emotional impoverishment and deprivation to enter a new world, foreign to them, that was nurturing, safe, structured and stimulating," Lederman wrote.
In 2006, the children's respective fathers' rights were terminated, court documents said, and they remained in the care of Gill and his partner.
"Our family just got a lot more to be thankful for this Thanksgiving," Gill said Tuesday, according to the ACLU, which represented him.
Florida is the only state that specifically bans all "homosexual" people from adopting children, although it does allow them to be foster parents.
This month, Arkansas voters approved a ballot measure to prohibit unmarried partners -- same-sex or opposite-sex couples -- from adopting children or from serving as foster parents. The measure is similar to one in Utah, which excludes same-sex couples indirectly through a statute barring all unmarried couples from adopting or taking in foster children.
Mississippi allows single gays and lesbians to adopt, but prohibits same-sex couples from adopting.
Neal Skene, spokesman for the Florida Department of Children and Families, said the appeal was filed so a statewide resolution on the law could be determined by an appellate court. He noted that another Florida circuit judge declared the law unconstitutional this year but that ruling had not been appealed.
"We need a statewide determination by the appellate courts," he said.
Gill's adoption petition cannot be approved until the appeal process is finished, Skene said, but the children will remain in Gill's home.
"These are wonderful foster parents," Skene said. "It's just that we have a statute, [and] the statute is very clear on the issue of adoption."
Several organizations -- including the National Adoption Center, the American Medical Association, the American Psychological Association and the American Academy of Pediatrics -- have said that having gay and lesbian parents does not negatively affect children.
The Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute, a nonprofit organization that studies adoption and foster care, hailed the decision.
"This ban, which was the only one of its kind in the country, has done nothing but undermine the prospects of boys and girls in the foster care system to get permanent, loving homes," said Adam Pertman, the Adoption Institute's executive director, in a written statement.
"So this decision by Judge Lederman is a very important, hopeful ruling for children who need families."
But I thought you guys LOVED gays! Wassa matta you?!!? nm
No issue is no issue. Denying that
nm
So you not only hate gays, you also hate
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