Not all Obama supporters are looking for handouts -
Posted By: Amanda on 2008-11-07
In Reply to: Yeah, some people have love of country. Some - have love of handouts..pathetic.nm
I am not asking for handouts - I don't need handouts - I don't want handouts - and I am THRILLED that Obama won the election.
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Which is how Obama wants it....free handouts!!
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Obama supporters, I need your help
I am a conservative Republican, but am undecided in this election. My best friend is a liberal Democrat and she is hosting an Obama Party this Friday. I've been trying to become educated on where Obama stands on some of the issues and what his plans are once he becomes president, but I'm obviously looking in the wrong places. I have a very open mind and want to be part of the conversation at this party, but I want to know what's being talked about. Can anyone give me some reputable websites that will give me any of this information? It would be greatly appreciated!
If Obama has supporters like you,
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Why is it so many Obama supporters
sound like you? Always angry, negative, militant nay-sayers who never seem want to allow anyone else to have an opinion that does not agree with yours. I've heard you spiel before too. I will be glad when McCain wins the presidency and stops all these rumors. I've heard more than enough about someone who really hasn't accomplished much of anything of significance.
A lot of Obama supporters do
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obama supporters sure don't like
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obama supporters
I have been visiting this board for a little while and I will say that I will never visit EVER AGAIN. I have never witnessed such nastiness and hatred on BOTH sides of this political forum. One side thinks they are better than the other; the self-righteous blathering about 'who is more of an American' calling people horrible names like 'oreo', 'half-breeds', 'low-lifes', etc - even stooping so low as to call people 'baby-killers'. You all seem to forget one thing: WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER, NO MATTER WHO IS ELECTED. And whatever happens, all of us will be affected and as much in the toilet this country has been in for the past eight years - NONE OF US IS BETTER THAN OUR FELLOW MAN. Period.
Whatever Obama supporters are, they are
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Hey, Obama supporters ...
What do you say we all switch and vote a dirty old maverick into the White House?
Sorry, just felt the urge to be an @$$. 
To Obama supporters: s/m
I don't normally post on this board, I stay over on the MT boards, but I have one thing to say from my heart: Please remember that you reap what you sow. All of the years of the Bush-bashing from the left...it was always "okay" to do that because Bush is an "imbecile" or whatever other hateful names he was called. You didn't agree with his policies, etc. So let's bash him. Forget that he is a human being with people who love him. I believe he did the best he could with what he had to work with in terms of faulty intelligence given to him and the unimaginable stress of being the Leader of the Free World.
Well, now the tables have turned. I, personally, do not intend to bash Obama until he does/does not do something I disagree with, but when the time comes that some people might have the gall to disagree with something Obama does and refer to him in a negative way by calling him names or otherwise, please remember how it was *okay* for the left to do it to Bush. Just remember that. The time will come when the hateful negativity comes back on you with a vengeance.
Thanks for listening.
Obama supporters....
When are you going to quit your job? Do we have to wait until he's sworn in to sit home and collect welfare from the tax increases....or can we quit today?
Yes. I see so many Obama supporters like this.
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Problem is Obama supporters just do not want to
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Obama supporters are organizing
While you guys are here on this page engaging it "silly season semantics", we Obama supporters are working our plan to ensure that we get this wonderful man of the people in office. Has Senator McCain given his supporters any ideas on what they can do to try to help put him in office? Most of the 90,000+ people at the Democratic convention are right now working the plan (not to mention the millions of us who watched from home!) You guys need to wake up and give your support to someone who will work for you rather than against you in Washington.
The only thing wrong with being wrong is stubbornly clinging to your wrongness. You probably voted for our current president 4 and 8 years ago. The deplorable condition that our nation has fallen into over the course of the last 8 years makes me know I must do everything possible to avoid 4 more. I, and millions like me, are so happy that Senator Obama chose to use his awesome intelligence, skills and experience of working with people to help us help ourselves. We are an unstoppable force. Better get on board, folks.
Obama supporters have nothing to fear
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Absolutely! Obama supporters seem get that now
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I see the Obama supporters have no response to
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Susan and others are right. Obama supporters
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Obama supporters are not only close, they
Several independents were in the crowds and with their own records got so many racial/vulgar/threatening comments on tape. They were standing next to those where news mics were right there and they turned them off so YOU wouldn't hear the nasty things being said.
So lets not make this just a McCain thing...... poor little Obama supporters :(
Neither do Obama supporters. Your party needs a
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I guess Obama supporters......... sm
and bar owners really do not care about the danger the city could be in because of the legislation passed allowing bars to stay open 24/7 for 4 days. I would think that safety would be a concern, but you just proved me wrong. 
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Obama's supporters only hear what they want
They don't want to hear the truth. I hope you enjoy working even harder than you do now only to give the government more money only to hand it over to people who do not work for it.
Obama supporters worried, sorry
I think Obama supporters can see the some negatives.
At this point, since he has not yet taken office, there really is not a lot to complain about. Most folks see that he is doing what he needs to be doing--preparing for the transition and keeping the public informed of that.
I see people complaining about the delusional supporters, who they claim are essentially fools for drinking the Kool-Aid. But I never see any of the Obama detractors say that they see anything at all positive about the man, which makes me think they too are drinking the Kool-Aid, just a different flavor.
What IS it with Obama supporters, liberals, Democrats, et.al....
that they get so angry, so hateful and so bent out of shape when someone does not agree with their point of view? What IS that? You are pro abortion, I get it. You are pro killing babies...I get it. What I don't get about Obama supporters/liberals/Democrats is you are all about individual freedom, about CHOICE, about freedom speech...until someone disagrees with you and then that goes south faster than the geese in winter. Classic do as we say, not as we do. If you don't agree with us you aren't welcome. Mighty big of you folks. Mighty big. LOL.
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Obama supporters are the most clueless people
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Obama supporters are very educated and not hicks nm
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One more thing about abortion for Obama supporters (sm)
While I can see the controversy about when life begins when we are talking about the very early stages of development, I have this question for anyone who has ever had a child....or been one. Generally when a mother is about 20 weeks pregnant, give or take a couple of weeks, she starts to feel the baby moving around inside her body. The baby moves more and more as the weeks go by. Toward 30 weeks or so, you can actually feel the baby changing positions to get more comfortable, moving around. So you are saying that baby I felt moving in my body wasn't alive yet?
Obama and his supporters dont care. as long as
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Obama supporters are clueless, apparently dont
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Commie? This is out of line. Obama supporters are educated. nm
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Yeah, agreed. Obama supporters refuse to see his
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Hmmm..... Obama supporters suddenly quiet
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SC Roman Catholic priest says Obama supporters shouldn't receive
By MEG KINNARD | Associated Press Writer
9:04 PM EST, November 13, 2008
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) _ A South Carolina Roman Catholic priest has told his parishioners that they should refrain from receiving Holy Communion if they voted for Barack Obama because the Democratic president-elect supports abortion, and supporting him "constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil."
The Rev. Jay Scott Newman said in a letter distributed Sunday to parishioners at St. Mary's Catholic Church in Greenville that they are putting their souls at risk if they take Holy Communion before doing penance for their vote.
"Our nation has chosen for its chief executive the most radical pro-abortion politician ever to serve in the United States Senate or to run for president," Newman wrote, referring to Obama by his full name, including his middle name of Hussein.
"Voting for a pro-abortion politician when a plausible pro-life alternative exists constitutes material cooperation with intrinsic evil, and those Catholics who do so place themselves outside of the full communion of Christ's Church and under the judgment of divine law. Persons in this condition should not receive Holy Communion until and unless they are reconciled to God in the Sacrament of Penance, lest they eat and drink their own condemnation."
During the 2008 presidential campaign, many bishops spoke out on abortion more boldly than four years earlier, telling Catholic politicians and voters that the issue should be the most important consideration in setting policy and deciding which candidate to back. A few church leaders said parishioners risked their immortal soul by voting for candidates who support abortion rights.
But bishops differ on whether Catholic lawmakers — and voters — should refrain from receiving Communion if they diverge from church teaching on abortion. Each bishop sets policy in his own diocese. In their annual fall meeting, the nation's Catholic bishops vowed Tuesday to forcefully confront the Obama administration over its support for abortion rights.
According to national exit polls, 54 percent of Catholics chose Obama, who is Protestant. In South Carolina, which McCain carried, voters in Greenville County — traditionally seen as among the state's most conservative areas — went 61 percent for the Republican, and 37 percent for Obama.
"It was not an attempt to make a partisan point," Newman said in a telephone interview Thursday. "In fact, in this election, for the sake of argument, if the Republican candidate had been pro-abortion, and the Democratic candidate had been pro-life, everything that I wrote would have been exactly the same."
Conservative Catholics criticized Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry in 2004 for supporting abortion rights, with a few Catholic bishops saying Kerry should refrain from receiving Holy Communion because his views were contrary to church teachings.
Sister Mary Ann Walsh, spokeswoman for the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, said she had not heard of other churches taking this position in reaction to Obama's win. A Boston-based group that supports Catholic Democrats questioned the move, saying it was too extreme.
"Father Newman is off base," said Steve Krueger, national director of Catholic Democrats. "He is acting beyond the authority of a parish priest to say what he did. ... Unfortunately, he is doing so in a manner that will be of great cost to those parishioners who did vote for Sens. Obama and Biden. There will be a spiritual cost to them for his words."
A man who has attended St. Mary's for 18 years said he welcomed Newman's message and anticipated it would inspire further discussion at the church.
"I don't understand anyone who would call themselves a Christian, let alone a Catholic, and could vote for someone who's a pro-abortion candidate," said Ted Kelly, 64, who volunteers his time as lector for the church. "You're talking about the murder of innocent beings."
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On the Net:
St. Mary's Catholic Church: http://www.stmarysgvl.org/
So you can pay for all those free handouts to
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Democrats give handouts. sm
Republicans give hand-ups. The Democrats have kept the black community in servitude long enough. Besides, they canceled the cards.
I work my butt off and don't want handouts -
Voting for Obama does not mean I want anyone to give me anything. I have never asked for anything and don't intend to start taking anything.
All the handouts we give them in California has helped our
No tax-refunds this year for those of us who work hard, pay taxes, and actually live here legally. This year all we get is *IOU's*.
Compassion is one thing......long-term handouts
In the case of New Orleans, the majority of those do not want a help up,they want what they had known prior to Katrina, a monthly hand out!
When the greatest majority of those folks are STILL without jobs, it is because they do not want a job. They didn't have jobs before and they certainly do not feel they should find one now.
This person was talking about the 2000 debit cards and calling them handouts...sm
Now is not the time to be talking about handups in the midst of a national disaster like the one in NO. In a time like this it is too late for that and inappropriate. But enlighten me, what kind of handup has the republican party offered the displaced NO citizens?
These people NEED HANDOUTS AND YESTERDAY, until they can regain some type of normal existence and then handups would be good. Some people can't stand to see a person get anything. I've learned that's just how some people are. Even though they are cush in front of their computers posting away, they think if I'm not getting 2000 dollars from the government neither should they. And then there's the, I got mine croud. They feel that these people should have educated themselves, worked harder and they wouldn't be in this position, so let em' stay in the astrodome until they can figure something out.
I don't agree and think these compasionate conservative Christians who think this way should ask themselves WWJD?
So many B.O. supporters are
mesmorized by the promise of change that they can't see or hear anything else but that. They have their rose colored glasses on and live in Obama fairy land. The idea of Obama actually becoming president scares the sh1t out of me. I hope and pray that there are enough people out there who have done the research and realize actually what "change" Obama will bring to our country and how it will ruin it. God help us all!!!
supporters?
We all hear a lot of support for each candidate on this board. Curious if anyone has put their money where their mouth is? What extent would you/have you gone for the candidate you favor?
McCain's supporters...........sm
McCain supporters at a recent town hall meeting. Ron Paul supporters in a march in D.C. last Saturday.
http://bayimg.com/naJmkaaBO
O supporters with moxey.
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You asked the supporters why and they
gave you what they thought, why are you "attacking" this person because you don't like their answer.
It is truly a ridiculous question. It is a flippin' pin. Does it really matter? Shouldn't we be more interested in the people who are running views and formats, be they Democrat or Republican. Why do we keep getting caught up in all of this garbage?!!
Many people were taught that the hand goes on the chest during the pledge and you sing the anthem.
FOR MCCAIN SUPPORTERS
I received this in email this morning. I couldn't find it posted here already, so:
Check this out.........and be sure to read it to the very end.
Three former Fannie Mae executives
Here is a quick look into 3 former Fannie Mae executives who have brought down Wall Street. Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregulaties in Fannie Mae's accounting activities. At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, ' Raines, who long defended the company's accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn't proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that 'mistakes were made' and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of findings that the company's books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years.' Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion. Raines left with a ' golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear. http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ . The Government noted, 'The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsafe and unsound manner.' These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits.
Tim Howard - Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard 'was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a 'stable pattern of earnings' at Fannie. In everyday English - he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, 'Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,'
On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant's income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company's board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses.
Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004.
Howard's Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!
Jim Johnson - A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO.
A look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight's May 2006 report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you'll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson's 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.' Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from
Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.
Johnson's Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.
WHERE ARE THEY NOW?
FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as Chief Economic Advisor
TIM HOWARD? Howard is also a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama
JIM JOHNSON? Johnson hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama's Vice Presidential Search Committee
IF OBAMA PLANS ON CLEANING UP THE MESS - HIS ADVISORS HAVE THE EXPERTISE - THEY MADE THE MESS IN THE FIRST PLACE.
Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street?
And the O supporters, dems,
and left-wing media don't just repeat what they see and hear? LOL! Oh please. Half of the Obamanation supporters spout exactly what Obama says and only seeing the promise of change.....which I might add....WON'T HAPPEN. Obama can't do anything he promises and if he does.....our country will be totally FUBARed (f*cked up beyond all recognition).
what do supporters prove?
What do you mean by "He'll make a fine President... He's going to do great and he's got the supporters to prove it." That only means he has people who think he will do well. Can't really say until he is in office and we see what he does. Unless you think all these people can predict the future.
You mean his supporters in Hawaii
I will be satisfied when the supreme court decides whether or not the certificate is legitimate. Having Hawaii legally seal this only raises suspicion.
Show me the proof that there was an official "Office of the President Elect" in the past. Never was! This was created by Obama. There has always been a transition team, but never a made up office. Even Clinton was not this arrogant.
Since you didn't like Fox news, here are some other links.
http://www.newemergencypreparedness.com/office-of-the-president-elect/
http://186-kps.com/blog/2008/11/07/obama-ego-the-office-of-president-elect-wtf/
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_president_elect_/2008/11/10/149643.html
I could post many more sites but it doesn't matter because if it goes against the O you just won't believe it no matter how true it is.
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