People are born gay or straight
Posted By: Get your facts straight on 2009-06-09
In Reply to: No one is born homosexual or heterosexual - Patty
I would love to know why straight people spew hatred at being gay. I know why, you believe we are perverts yet you do not consider that our lives parallel with yours. I NEVER think what you do in your bedroom so why should it bother you to the point that you hate gays because of what they do in their bedroom? Perhaps if you stop worrying about the sex life of a gay person, you might see that they are just like you in every way.
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Straight people being
Called gay generally do not have a problem with that when they are comfortable in their sexuality and in their own skin. Rolls right off them. Newsflash! Gays ARE accepted in mainstream society. Religious zealots and wingnuts are not mainstream society. As for confrontational, exactly what have YOU been doing on here ALL day long? Keep it up... I have all night.
People don't "turn gay". They're born that way.
It doesn't matter WHERE he was born. He was born to an American citizen so he is sm
a native American.
Obama was born in US, his FATHER was born in Kenya, check it out and sm
Do you really think the campaign would have gotten this far if he was born in Kenya? Did Hannity tell you that? LOL!!!!
natural born does not mean you have to be born physically in the US -
My daughter was born in Germany, but because I am an American she is an American. She has no problems and is considered natural born - that just means you did not have to go through the hoops to become an American citizen.
There's one born every minute.
You seem to have bought the Dem's propaganda hook, line and sinker. What a sucker.
There is none so blind as he who will not see.
You know, not everyone was born in Boston...
and not everyone expresses himself/herself in the way you wish they would. That does NOT diminish their abilities. You still come off as sounding very condescending. I don't live in Boston and I don't have a master's degree, and I know a lot of "Joe six-packs." Who, incidentally, are very fine and not uneducated people. She does have a degree in journalism. She is not uneducated. Obama does not have a depth and breadth of experience, no more than she does. She has executive experience, he doesn't. He doesn't have foreign policy experience; that is why he has Joe Biden and 300 foreign policy advisors. She has balanced the state budget and has had surpluses which she returned to her constituents. She is very honest and open...much more so than Obama OR Biden.
Funny you should mention God...have you looked into black liberation theology?
Born-again believers
can't vote for Obama but they can vote for McCain, an admitted adulterer, proven liar, a man of proven poor judgment (Keeting-5 not to mention Gov Airhead)? They'll vote for McCain because he "says" he is against abortion? We know this how? I for one do not believe in abortion...for myself. I further believe that is an issue not for the government but between a woman, her doctor and her God. If she has no God, of course, she is not bound by His laws.
Yes, he war born in Hawaii which in in the US. nm
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He was born too early ...
If you read through the articles, you'll see that he was actually born before the law went into effect stating that people born in the Panama Canal zone were natural born citizens. Thus, he is not.
I'm sure the RNC felt that it was just a technicality that would never be called out.
I fear if this Obama stuff continues, it will be. And we'll be left with no candidates to vote for.
FYI, even though born in Iran, she is....sm
a natural-born American citizen.
As a born and bred
Chicago baby, I can say you are 100% right!
I was BORN in Europe, So what? What does this have to do
with anything and it is none of your business.
I assume that you are jealous that I am European born, therefore you are literally 'following' me around the forum with your pathetic comments.
Nothing better to do?
Look for another past-time.
I am a born again Christian and believe sm
homosexuality is wrong but THAT IS the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life!
So let me get this straight
If Bush changes his mind it's flip-flopping but if a Democrat and/or liberal does it he/she's just exercising his right to change their mind.
I just love pointing out blatant double standards which their seems to be a lot of in the liberal ideology.
What you fail to realize is that what is going on Washington right now is politics as usual on both sides. Both sides are playing the game to some extent. The liberals are just realllly bad at it.
So, let me get this straight...
The poster of sickened and fed up can post here and criticize and this is okay, but Think Liberal cannot defend the original post, and if he/she does, he/she is not compassionate? Sounds pretty one-sided to me.
let me see if I have this straight
I'm a little confused. Let me see if I have this straight.....
* If you grow up in Hawaii, raised by your grandparents, you're "exotic,
different."
* Grow up in Alaska eating mooseburgers, a quintessential American story.
* If your name is Barrack you're a radical, unpatriotic Muslim.
* Name your kids Willow, Trig and Track, you're a maverick.
* Graduate from Harvard Law School and you are unstable.
* Attend 5 different small colleges before graduating, you're well grounded.
* If you spend 3 years as a brilliant community organizer, become the first
black President of the Harvard Law Review, create a voter registration drive
that registers 150,000 new voters, spend 12 years as a Constitutional Law
professor, spend 8 years as a State Senator representing a district with more
than 750,000 people, become chairman of the state Senate's Health and Human
Services committee, spend 4 years in the United States Senate representing a
state of 13 million people while sponsoring 131 bills and serving on the
Foreign Affairs, Environment and Public Works and Veteran's Affairs
committees, you don't have any real leadership experience.
* If your total resume is: local weather girl, 4 years on the city council
and 6 years as the mayor of a town with fewer than 7,000 people, 20 months as
the governor of a state with only 650,000 people, then you're qualified to
become the country's second highest ranking executive.
* If you have been married to the same woman for 19 years while raising 2
beautiful daughters, all within Protestant churches, you're not a real
Christian.
* If you cheated on your first wife with a rich heiress, and left your
disabled wife and married the heiress the next month, you're a Christian.
* If you teach responsible, age appropriate sex education, including the
proper use of birth control, you are eroding the fiber of society.
* If, while governor, you staunchly advocate abstinence only, with no other
option in sex education in your state's school system while your unwed teen
daughter ends up pregnant, you're very responsible.
* If your wife is a Harvard graduate lawyer who gave up a position in a
prestigious law firm to work for the betterment of her inner city community,
then gave that up to raise a family, your family's values don't represent America's.
* If your husband is nicknamed "First Dude," with at least one DWI conviction
and no college education, who didn't register to vote until age 25 and once
was a member of a group that advocated the secession of Alaska from the
USA, your family is extremely admirable.
OK, got it! It is sooo much clearer now
So let me get this straight - sm
you get mad at people if they won't vote for O because he's black but your against someone because of their age? But to throw another wrench in you are for Biden when he's only a few years younger than McCain? The term I heard tonight that could correctly go into this post is "nincompoop".
Let me get this straight... you and DH sm
Make more than $250K and you are an MT?
I will be straight up with you on this one.
I'm a McCain supporter in this election and I will be voting for him. Having said that, I don't think either candidates are perfect and I'm not sure McCain's economics plans will actually benefit this country right away, but I do know that Obama's economic plan will make our situation worse. That is the main reason I'm not voting for him. Taxing companies more will lose jobs...not create them. Raising taxes during an economic crisis leads to worse economic crisis....just look at what Hoover did. He raised taxes during a recession and it started the Great Depression. FDR started several goverment assisted programs to help and they actually extended the duration of the great depression. Obama wants to raise taxes and wants to institute new government assisted programs.
As for the allegations of him being born outside of the country....who knows. He claims he was born in Hawaii and if that is the case, show your birth certificate and be done with it. If you have nothing to hide, show it. Ya know. I feel that there have been many things that Obama has not been outright and honest about. If any other politician had the associations and the history as Obama has had.....their political career would be in the gutter. I do not understand this love affair the media has with Obama.
I do not trust Obama and let me reiterate that this is not a race thing. I don't think John McCain is a saint and I do know that all politicians lie to get elected but I just feel like John McCain has served this country all of his life and I would feel more comfortable with him in the oval office than a man we hardly know, who won't answer questions honestly about himself or his associations, and has very little experience.
So, let me get this straight.
Slander, infer, distort, misrepresent, fabricate, slur, smear, disparage, belittle, defame, deceive, falsify, slam, libel, vilify and lie about Obama night and day, ad nauseum, 24/7, for months on end but when his supporters (whose interests they feel he represents) TAKE THIS PERSONALLY, and respond in kind, this is mean? Dial back the dialog on the candidate candidate and you will be pleasantly surprised to see what you get from the other side.
Okay, so let me get this straight..
into poverty, but you don't want the money it takes to care for these children to come out of your pocket???? Am I on the mark?
I guess this is another so-called way to sling mud at Obama. The rich republicans can't have it both ways. You either care for the unborn (welfare for their mothers) or you allow the mother the choice... Which is it?
Not all abortions are a form of birth control, ya' know. I knew a very religious lady that aborted her child due to hydrocephalus. The child would been born deformed/a vegetable. This would have put this lady at high risk. She prayed about it and soon after aborted the child. She had to live with that.
Not all situations are the same. Furthermore, you can't force your child to have a baby or to have an abortion. Either way, it's her body.
So let me get this straight....
If the cartoon doesn't offend me, I am racist. If I didn't vote for Obama, I am racist. If I am not up in arms about something as silly as a political cartoon, I am racist. I have never dated or been married to a black man, does that make me racist? There are no black people who live in my community (it is very small), does that make us all racists? I do have several black friends, do I get a free pass for that? I go to movies that feature black actors, is that okay? I like to listen to the Motown channel on Sirius radio, is that okay? Oh, I like Whoopi Goldberg, Halle Berry, and I even think Michelle Obama is fairly attractive, do I get a free pass for that too? Oh, but I don't like Oprah, so that makes me a racist, right?
This argument is old as the hills and will never go away. To each his own, don't obsess about it.
Actually, MANY do think FOX gives is straight.
nm
Let me get this straight....(sm)
You think I'm a hypocrit because you knew a flamboyant homosexual when you were growing up? That almost made sense....
Tell me, if you meet a homosexual and you don't approve of his/her mannerisms, does that give you the right to attack him? What happens if someone doesn't approve of your mannerisms?
Let's get this straight,
you choose to start a grammar war, hurl personal insults, get thoroughly defeated by practically everyone on this board, then go crying to the moderator? We have a couple of American sayings (maybe Midwestern, you would be the expert on that, I suppose):
Don't bring a knife to a gun fight.
If you can't stand the heat, stay out of the kitchen.
FYI, if you are transcribing for American accounts, you really should be familiar with the vernacular. Doctors often use slang in direct quotes and typing ''criminal'' for criminetly would make you look quite silly.
unborn versus born
I do not think they would choose their life over a child that was already born, but I do think many would choose (and do choose) their own life over an unborn child's life. And by life I don't necessarily mean a medical condition. If my daughter were a teenager (she is not quite there yet) and she was pregnant, and she chose abortion, her father and I would certainly support that choice versus her giving up a promising future to raise an unwanted child, especially at such a young age.
I know others would not choose that, but many do everyday. Certainly, I think men and women should choose birth control, abstinence, etc., but birth control fails, mistakes happen, rape happens, incest happens, and I don't feel anyone should have to give birth if they don't want to or aren't prepared for the responsibility of parenting.
Many women chose to give their babies up for adoption, and that is a wonderful choice for them. However, not the best choice for everyone. I want everyone to be able to have that choice.
It does not matter how racism is born...
racism is racism. All whites did not enter into the slavery trade nor discrimination nor condone it, and if it had not been for some fed-up white Republicans like Abe Lincoln slavery would not have been abolished as quickly as it was. And if it had not been for some fed-up white Republicans shoving through the Right to Vote act in the 60's, oppression would certainly be worse still today. So I would be very careful about saying all whites oppressed anyone. And that is what racism is...condemning an entire "race" for perceived injustices or perceived inferiority. To the Nation of Islam, apparently to Obama's church, to Black panthers...there is no good white person. Exactly the way the old south was in reverse. Defend it if you like...it is still virulent racism and should not be condoned for ANY reason.
So, my friend, when you talk about quotas in jobs, quotas in scholarships, being put ahead not because of hard work or actually qualifying for something like a job or a scholarship, please don't whine about how blacks or minorities are oppressed. In today's culture it should strictly be on merit, not on the color of your skin, be that white, black, yellow, red or chartreuse.
And, frankly, your last sentence sounds pretty racist itself.
Where in the announcement does it say he was born in Hawaii...
If you listened to Michael Savage's interview, he actually had the newspaper with the announcement. It does not state the location of the birth. It just made an announcement.
Our local newspaper always has announcements for births and many of those births are from other states, etc. It is just an announcement to let the community know that one of their members had a child, grandchild, etc.
Yes, and he was born in "coal country" and also said
"No coal plants in this country." Now, that's really being behind your beginnings.
He was never a US born American citizen
Let me repeat - Never was an American citizen, never was, never happened, nothing to denounce. He was born a Kenyan, moved to Indonesia and became an Indonesian citzen. What part of that are you not understading. If you were never an American citizen to begin with there is nothing they can take away. CRIPES ALMIGHTY! How many more times do people have to post that. There are NO documents to ever prove he was. You just don't listen.
If they were born on a military base, they
are considered U.S. citizens. Military bases anywhere in the world are considered U.S. soil.
Yeah. They have to be born citizen, not
a naturalized citizen. Which is why "the Governor" will never be the Prez.
You can be born on the moon and as long as you...sm
have one parent who is an American citizen, you are a natural-born American citizen, PERIOD!
they were not born on a military base either
they have dual citizenship.
1963...LOL..that's the year I was born. (sm)
  Checking scalp for 666.
If Obama wasn't born in the US
then he shouldn't be president. Why? Because if we open that precedent, than anyone from any nation can run for president, and seeing as how many people will vote based on what they hear (or think they hear), all it would take would be a charismatic, young, exciting, progressive, man or woman from another country to come in with a hidden agenda and run for president and get voted in and then show us what he or she really had in mind for our country.
As for people who voted without any idea....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ovcdb6csHBE
On the second one not one person could really name any specifics, just regurgitated whatever they heard on the t.v., internet, speeches, etc. I especially love the one that said "he's beautiful!" I didn't realize that was a point for voting...
You can also listen to the Howard Stern interviews where they listed Mccain's platforms as Obama's and asked people if that is why they were voting for Obama and they all said "yeah! definitely!" I didn't want to paste those because of the language though.
I'm not saying all of his supporters were dimwits, but a lot of them just voted for him because he was new, young, "hip", black, and a smooth talker. Believe me, being a 22-year-old college student, he appealed to me at first too, until I found out the things he stood for.
Yeah but at least he was born in America
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Born and raised in Chatta
Left there years ago but still visit some, went to high school there, Red Bank. I still get the News Free Press on line to make sure everything on the up and up there.
Just to clarify - this is for infants who were actually born .
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As a Born Again, Bible believing sm
Christian, I can see how you would get this opinion of Christians. Some Christians don't present themselves as they should and go to crazy and illegal methods. Let me say that a true Christian who loves Jesus Christ would NOT murder an abortion doctor. No one has that right. The abortion doctor will have to answer for what he has done as will the "so-called" Christian who murdered him. The person who murdered this doctor and those like him are not representative of what a true Christian is and should be.
When I hear stories like this it makes me sad that it has brought such shame upon the name of Christ my Lord. Please do not put us all in the same classification. Not everyone who calls themselves a Christian IS a Christian.
I am a Christian and I love Christ my Lord, but never would anything like this ever enter my mind.
God bless you.
No one is born homosexual or heterosexual
Those are meaningless terms. You're either born male or female. You decide what sex acts you wish to engage in. Some are normal. Some are abnormal. Some are immoral.
Not at all. Just trying to set the record straight. sm
 As to what the board monitor REALLY said, since the left sometimes has comprehension problems and all.
Get facts straight
Where would the word satanist even come up in your head? I mean, that is truly scarey. I dont even know what that is. It is not part of my vocabulary or thought proceses, yet you posting in a liberal board throw that my way? Obviously, these things are on your mind..to me that is downright troubling. Get facts straight? That is what we liberals and peace lovers have been trying to tell you warmonger right wingers all along..get your facts straight..the war is based on lies, Bush is a liar..
At least he knows he needs to get his facts straight. sm
That's one step in the right direction. I hope he doesn't mean CREATE some facts.
If this is true though, it is cheap for the US to be involved with this company. Same thing though with the United Arab Emirites and their child camel jockeys (see link).
Let's get it straight. I will not tolerate
continued slamming of the President and this country. Ask yourself what you're really gaining by doing so. My political affiliation has NO bearing on this whatsoever. I expect people to behave appropriately on all forums. ForuMatrix is a website that is open to the entire world, not just the US and I am ashamed of some of what I read knowing that people in other countries are reading it too. Don't think for a minute that I am only pointing out the Liberal board. Far from it. I've had to come down on some posters on the Conservatives board, too. So, what this all comes down to is that respectful posting will be adhered to or I won't allow posting. We need to go back to old fashioned VALUES, if we think that way then the words we write won't be as cutting. You may not agree with me and that is your prerogative and I am not trying to censor you, rather I would prefer that you and others post in kind and with respect.
Get your facts straight.
Now that is not exactly the truth is it? He refused to be coerced and he paid dearly for it. I was unaware the Viggo Mortensen was a hollywood burnout. Does he know that?
Straight and to the point.
nm
Get your facts straight, please....there was no lie....sm
She said,
"I put it on ebay."
....which she did.
I....put.....it....on....ebay.
She didn't say it sold there, now did she?
It didn't sell there, I believe it was sold to a private party instead.
Lemme get this straight...
Those who cannot afford any insurance at all will get "Cadillac" plans (that's what fed employees receive) underwritten by the rest of us?! Meanwhile we continue to pay out the nose for our crappy policies, which will be less than the "Cadillac" plans, while we are paying for the ne'er do wells' "Cadillac" coverage?
That's not the kind of "change" most of us want, although I can certainly see why the recipients of this "handout" would think it's a great deal!!!
Seems to me he isn't thinking straight
in a lot of areas. "Not thinking straight" is a qualification for the highest office in the land? I should hope not.
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