Thanks for your helpful dictionary comment.
Posted By: Zville MT on 2009-06-09
In Reply to: Once again, - Patty
That's the problem with discussing things like religion, sexuality, and politics - someone always has to make some kind of smart-a$$ comment and then...
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How is this helpful? Why is this necessary? sm
This is what I really really can't stand about liberals. BLAME BLAME BLAME. Can't wait until the flood waters have cleared. I am sure this will be examined, but right now, people are suffering and dying. Could ya put down the poison pen for just a sec and try and have some compassion for these people?
extremely helpful
Extremely helpful, if you ask me. Have to let the people know whose fault it was.
I saw one Republican say it was not helpful...
all the rest say that it was. You are correct, it was not going to pass as is, McCain knew it, he said so, and that is why he went. He got ALL the parties together in the meeting he asked the President to call, including Obama. What did that do? Focus everyone in Washington ON the issue, and focus America ON the issue. Yesterday only senators were talking. Today, there are four people in a room, a Dem rep from house and senate and a Repub rep from House and senate. EVERYONE is involved, and only 4 people hammering out the details. Since EVERYONE is represented, a bill that comes out will have bipartisan support and will pass. That was NOT going to happen unless McCain did what he did. It is a GOOD thing he did it, and it is a GOOD thing he asked the President to get Obama up there to be part of it. THAT is TRUE bipartisanship and that is what McCain is about. He put his bid for the Presidency on the line to do what is best for this country. It only reinforced for me why I am voting for him.
Cool. Thanks. It's helpful.
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I think you may find these 2 links helpful.
http://www.pewcenteronthestates.org/uploadedFiles/ballot%20verification.pdf
Go here and check out language for Arizona.
http://www.co.yavapai.az.us/WorkArea/showcontent.aspx?id=18500
This is a 5-page document with Provisional Ballot information specific to Arizona.
Seems like they will count once address, ID and precinct information is verified. If your daughter votes in accordance with your posts, I may be cancelling out my own vote here, but above all, we want all voices heard and fair elections to the best of our ability. Hope this helps and good luck with your picks.
Don't you own a dictionary? nm
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So you think it is more helpful to watch shoe being thrown
at our current leader than to hear about the new administration's cabinet members?
Dictionary of Republicanisms
Dictionary of Republicanisms
by KATRINA VANDEN HEUVEL
[from the December 12, 2005 issue]
Over the past few decades, the radical right has engaged in a
well-funded, self-conscious program of Orwellian doublespeak, transforming the
American political discourse to suit its ends. Think tanks like the Cato
Institute routinely market phrases for their political resonance, like
personal vs. private accounts. Frank Luntz, the Republican
pollster, lexicographer and MSNBC pundit who combines Madison Avenue techniques
with K Street connections, sends out regular missives informing
Republican operatives and politicians on how to spin conservative policy
proposals. (He was on The Daily Show demonstrating his talents, defining
manipulation as explanation and education.) Paul Wolfowitz admitted to
Vanity Fair that weapons of mass destruction was agreed upon as the
reason to go to war with Iraq because it was the most salable rationale.
And we all know how that turned out.
Before we can win the great battle of ideas, we must debunk the right's
political discourse, a veritable code of encrypted language that twists
common usage to deceive the public for the Republicans' purposes. The
key to their linguistic strategy is to use words that sound moderate to
us but mean something completely different to them. Their tactics range
from the childish use of antonyms (clean = dirty) to the
pseudo-academic use of prefixes (neo is a favorite) to the pernicious and very
expensive rebranding of traditional labels (liberal as an insult).
We decided we needed to break the code by building a Republican
dictionary. Skewer their deceptions with the fine-tipped sword of satire. Lies
melt away in the face of mockery.
Unlike Republicans, who rely on rich old cranks and
intellectuals-for-hire to do their dirty work, we opened up the process to the people. For
six months, thenation.com accepted suggestions from everyone who wanted
to participate. The result was an overwhelming grassroots groundswell
of hilarious submissions from citizens who are mad as hell and aren't
going to take it anymore. Thousands of definitions were entered from all
over the country, forty-four states in all, along with Puerto Rico and
Washington, DC. (We even received a few from outraged Canadians,
Australians and Brits.)
As momentum for the project grew, friends and allies joined the effort.
TomDispatch.com asked its readers and writers to submit their own
definitions. Reviewing the submissions from our website, we found that
certain trends became apparent. Compassionate conservative and ownership
society were the most popular targets. No Child Left Behind was the
most common riff. The disaster in Iraq was the subject of the most
outrage. The results have been compiled in a new book, Dictionary of
Republicanisms (Nation Books). Here are some of my favorites. I hope they
inspire you to action, to take back this great nation from those who are
doing it such harm.
abstinence-only sex education n. Ignorance-only sex education [Wayne
Martorelli, Lawrenceville, NJ].
alternative energy sources n. New locations to drill for gas and oil
[Peter Scholz, Fort Collins, Colo.].
bankruptcy n. A punishable crime when committed by poor people but not
corporations [Beth Thielen, Studio City, Calif.].
burning bush n. A biblical allusion to the response of the President
of the United States when asked a question by a journalist who has not
been paid to inquire [Bill Moyers, New York, NY].
Cheney, Dick n. The greater of two evils [Jacob McCullar, Austin,
Tex.].
China n. See Wal-Mart [Rebecca Solnit, San Francisco, Calif.].
class warfare n. Any attempt to raise the minimum wage [Don Zweir,
Grayslake, Ill.].
climate change n. The blessed day when the blue states are swallowed by
the oceans [Ann Klopp, Princeton, NJ].
compassionate conservatism n. Poignant concern for the very wealthy
[Lawrence Sandek, Twin Peaks, Calif.].
creationism n. Pseudoscience that claims George W. Bush's resemblance
to a chimpanzee is totally coincidental [Brian Sweeney, Providence, RI].
DeLay, Tom n. 1. Past tense of De Lie [Rick Rodstrom, Los Angeles,
Calif.]. 2. Patronage saint [Andrew Magni, Nonatum, Mass.].
democracy n. A product so extensively exported that the domestic supply
is depleted [Michael Schwartz, unknown].
dittohead n. An Oxy(contin)moron [Zydeco Boudreaux, Gretna, La.].
energy independence n. The caribou witness relocation program [Justin
Rezzonico, Keene, Ohio].
extraordinary rendition n. Outsourcing torture [Milton Feldon, Laguna
Woods, Calif.].
faith n. The stubborn belief that God approves of Republican moral
values despite the preponderance of textual evidence to the contrary
[Matthew Polly, Topeka, Kans.].
Fox News fict. Faux news [Justin Rezzonico, Keene, Ohio].
free markets n. Halliburton no-bid contracts at taxpayer expense [Sean
O'Brian, Chicago, Ill.].
girly men n. Males who do not grope women inappropriately [Nick Gill,
Newton, Mass.].
God n. Senior presidential adviser [Martin Richard, Belgrade, Mont.].
growth n. 1. The justification for tax cuts for the rich. 2. What
happens to the national debt when Republicans cut taxes on the rich [Matthew
Polly, Topeka, Kans.].
habeas corpus n. Archaic. (Lat.) Legal term no longer in use (See
Patriot Act) [Josh Wanstreet, Nutter Fort, WV].
healthy forest n. No tree left behind [Dan McWilliams, Santa Barbara,
Calif.].
homelandism n. A neologism for love of the Homeland Security State, as
in My Homeland, 'tis of thee, sweet security state of liberty... [Tom
Engelhardt, New York, NY].
honesty n. Lies told in simple declarative sentences--e.g., Freedom is
on the march [Katrina vanden Heuvel, New York, NY].
House of Representatives n. Exclusive club; entry fee $1 million to $5
million (See Senate) [Adam Hochschild, San Francisco, Calif.].
laziness n. When the poor are not working [Justin Rezzonico, Keene,
Ohio].
leisure time n. When the wealthy are not working [Justin Rezzonico,
Keene, Ohio].
liberal(s) n. Followers of the Antichrist [Ann Wegher, Montello,
Wisc.].
Miller, Zell n. The man who shot and killed Alexander Hamilton after a
particularly tough interview on Hardball [Drew Dillion, Arlington,
Va.].
neoconservatives n. Nerds with Napoleonic complexes [Matthew Polly,
Topeka, Kans.].
9/11 n. Tragedy used to justify any administrative policy, especially
if unrelated (See Deficit, Iraq War) [Dan Mason, Durham, NH].
No Child Left Behind riff. 1. v. There are always jobs in the military
[Ann Klopp, Princeton, NJ]. 2. n. The rapture [Samantha Hess,
Cottonwood, Ariz.].
ownership society n. A civilization where 1 percent of the population
controls 90 percent of the wealth [Michael Albert, Piscataway, NJ].
Patriot Act n. 1. The pre-emptive strike on American freedoms to
prevent the terrorists from destroying them first. 2. The elimination of one
of the reasons why they hate us [Michael Thomas, Socorro, NM].
pro-life adj. Valuing human life up until birth [Kevin Weaver, San
Francisco, Calif.].
Senate n. Exclusive club; entry fee $10 million to $30 million [Adam
Hochschild, San Francisco, Calif.].
simplify v. To cut the taxes of Republican donors [Katrina vanden
Heuvel, New York, NY].
staying the course interj. Slang. Saying and doing the same stupid
thing over and over, regardless of the result [Suzanne Smith, Ann Arbor,
Mich.].
stuff happens interj. Slang. Donald Rumsfeld as master historian
[Sheila and Chalmers Johnson, San Diego, Calif.].
voter fraud n. A significant minority turnout [Sue Bazy, Philadelphia,
Pa.].
Wal-Mart n. The nation-state, future tense [Rebecca Solnit, San
Francisco, Calif.].
water n. Arsenic storage device [Joy Losee, Gainesville, Ga.].
woman n. 1. Person who can be trusted to bear a child but can't be
trusted to decide whether or not she wishes to have thechild. 2. Person who
must have all decisions regarding herreproductive functions made by men
with whom she wouldn't want to have sex in the first place [Denise
Clay, Philadelphia, Pa.].
Don't know what dictionary you're using.
From Merriam Webster on line http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=persecution
Main Entry: per·se·cu·tion 
Pronunciation: p&r-si-'kyü-sh&n
Function: noun
1 : the act or practice of persecuting especially those who differ in origin, religion, or social outlook
2 : the condition of being persecuted , harassed, or annoyed
As LVMT pointed out, they have been provoked, as well.
I repeat. Iraq and Iran were enemies. Due to Bush's ridiculous war, the area is now split open and on the verge of civil war with influence from Iran that never existed before because Saddam Hussein kept his vacuum very secure.
I won't address the remainder of your post because it is inflammatory, rude and defamatory, and I don't communicate with people who can't stick to the issues without resorting to personal insults against other posters. Such remarks have no value among intelligent mature adults attempting to engage in a meaningful dialogue.
Thanks, but I did not want a dictionary definition....
I wanted a *liberal* to define what that means to them...what are their views...what is the *platform* so to speak...what makes a *liberal* different from a *leftist?* Why is Obama not a liberal? That is the information I am seeking...not a dictionary definition. In a liberal's own words, so to speak.
Okay....in your own words, then, not the dictionary...
liberal to the core...why? What are your values, your ideas? Yours? You say those old men with old ideas, so out of touch. What are your ideas? What makes you so happy you are a liberal Democrat, and why is Obama not one? Thanks!
Did you know gullible's not in the dictionary?
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If you look in the dictionary under hypocrit
It will say "early 21st century Republican Party." How else can you call yourself pro-choice and be pro-war at the same time, all the while back a President who took us into a country that had done nothing to us, kill a lot of innocent people while looking for something that the Bush knew wasn't there in the first place. Who else would say they backed "less government" while trying to legislate the heck out of our personal choices, if the choices were different from theirs. Who else would complain about too much spending and all the while support a President who took a surplus and turned it into a hugh deficit, mostly supporting a war that was a lie, and did not bother providing our soldiers forced to fight in this war the proper protection, and even cut funds to make sure that they could not get health resources when they went home! Shall I go on? Because there is a lot more??
Look, you righties are entitled to your opinion, misguided as it is, and Kathy and I are entitled to ours. Time to find something else to talk about because this is going no where.
In your dictionary - as limited as it has proven to be
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This is from OneLook Dictionary search. sm
partial-birth abortion
n.
A late-term abortion, especially one in which a viable fetus is partially delivered through the cervix before being extracted. Not in technical use.
The following is my OPINION on the whole issue:
PRACTITIONERS OF THIS BARBERIC PRACTICE SHOULD BE TRIED AS MURDERERS by the state in which they live.
Nice dictionary definition....
Obama practices the Marxist version.
"Marx believed that the problem with the socialism of his day was that it did not deal with economic issues. He proposed that his new (communist) economic system, which called for redistribution of wealth, was more equitable."
Read up on that, and on black liberation theology and "economic parity." Then come back and let's talk about Obama socialism.
Yes, Palin is NOT socialist because she said ALL Alaskans should share in revenues derived from the state's vast national resources. Not taxing wealthy Alaskans to subsidize lower income Alaskans.
Clearer now?
Yes, let's post articles to mother's of military. So helpful. Geez. nm
Does Fox ever say anything nice or true or helpful to repubs and dems alike? nm
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And you need to read your dictionary for correct spelling......
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Consulting Webster's Dictionary online........... sm
resulted in the following. I don't seem to see the word "cult" there.
Christianity
Noun
1. The system of Christian beliefs and practices.
2. A group of Christians; any group professing Christian doctrine or belief; "the church is debating the issue of women priests".
3. The collective body of Christians throughout the world and history; "for a thousand years the Roman Catholic Church was the principal church of Christendom".
Source: WordNet 1.7.1 Copyright © 2001 by Princeton University. All rights reserved.
Date "Christianity" was first used in popular English literature: sometime before 1050.
Consulted yet another web site for Merriam-Webster and found the following....still no "cult" appearing in the definition.
Main Entry: Chris·tian·i·ty
Pronunciation: ˌkris-chç-ˈa-nə-tç, ˌkrish-, -ˈcha-nə-, ˌkris-tç-ˈa-
Function: noun
Date: 14th century
1 : the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies
2 : conformity to the Christian religion
3 : the practice of Christianity
How about Dictionary.com? Nope, not there either.
christianity - 5 dictionary results
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Chris⋅ti⋅an⋅i⋅ty /ˌkrɪstʃiˈ¿nɪti/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [kris-chee-an-i-tee] Show IPA
–noun, plural -ties. 1. the Christian religion, including the Catholic, Protestant, and Eastern Orthodox churches.
2. Christian beliefs or practices; Christian quality or character: Christianity mixed with pagan elements; the Christianity of Augustine's thought.
3. a particular Christian religious system: She followed fundamentalist Christianity.
4. the state of being a Christian.
5. Christendom.
6. conformity to the Christian religion or to its beliefs or practices.
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Origin:
1250–1300; ME cristianite < L chrîstiânitât- (s. of chrîstiânitâs), equiv. to chrîstiân- Christian + -itât- -ity; r. ME cristiente < MF < L, as above
Maybe the American Heritage dictionary? Sorry...not there.
Chris·ti·an·i·ty (krĭs'chç-ân'ĭ-tç, krĭs'tç-) Pronunciation Key
n.
The Christian religion, founded on the life and teachings of Jesus.
Christians as a group; Christendom.
The state or fact of being a Christian.
pl. Chris·ti·an·i·ties A particular form or sect of the Christian religion: the Christianities of antiquity.
Maybe WordNet by Princeton University? Nope....
christianity
noun
1. a monotheistic system of beliefs and practices based on the Old Testament and the teachings of Jesus as embodied in the New Testament and emphasizing the role of Jesus as savior
2. the collective body of Christians throughout the world and history (found predominantly in Europe and the Americas and Australia); "for a thousand years the Roman Catholic Church was the principal church of Christendom" [syn: Christendom]
Gee....I can't seem to find Christianity defined as a cult in any mainstream online dictionaries. Which one are you using?
Wow, they squeezed every Democratic talking point in that article. Congrats. How is this helpful?
Comment on Bush comment
I heard Bush this morning saying that no one predicted or knew that the New Orleans levees would give way. Well, that is not true. This was widely predicted by engineers and meteologists. The engineers predicted it for years if/when a major hurricaine hit, as well as engineers and meteorologists predicting this 1-2 days before Katrina. I even told my boyfriend last Sunday night that they were predicting some levees would break, that New Orleans would be in water the same depth as Lake Pontchartrain and that thousands could die. Gee, guess I should be a White House advisor.
My other gripe is that this federal response seems a bit slow. Like maybe Monday afternoon things should have been put into motion instead of......Thursday? But then, I'm sure not an expert.
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Comment
Why did you choose the Hilter comparison?
Here is what I saw in Hitler:
1. Megalomania - yes, possibly in Bush.
2. Skillful use of the propaganda of hate to unite a nation and incite a lust for war. Blaming of select ethnic group for Germany's woes -- yes, I see some similarity there, but Bush seems more like "oops, sorry I accidentlly killed you" to the Iraquis (Islam nations) rather than "I will place you in concentration camps until you are all exterminated."
3. Hitler was mentally ill but still capable of great, inspirational speeches and inspiring confidence in the masses -- Bush is kind of dopey and I'm not sure who he inspires, really, if much of anyone.
4. Hitler seemed to have an agenda to exterminate -- as mentioned, I don't see that in Bush.
Well, I had fun with this. WWII is an area that I know quite a bit about.
Comment
Did gt actually say there were NO socialist Jews? I took her to mean that Jews in general should not be categorized as socialists. There are probably socialist Irish, socialist Catholics, socialist African-Americans....but that doesn't mean you label the entire ethnic group as such. Common sense would dictate this. Just as I keep saying, you cannot label all liberals or all democrats as having the same ideals and belief systems. You seem to keep trying to put square pegs in round holes here....or, as also has been mentioned...thinking only in black and white when the world and all its people are shades of gray. It makes me very sad to see this and I end up feeling hopeless about the future of our country and of the world.
As far as Chomsky, I haven't read tons of his writing but what I did read a few years ago I very much liked. Could it be a case of you taking some things he wrote out of context? Or perhaps some things he wrote were more fiery or radical than you were comfortable with? Perhaps you didn't survey his writings as a whole and only picked out a few you didn't like. When you make an accusation as you did, please provide examples to back up your comments.
Your comment...
I think I do your understand your point....basically you are saying his comment was taken out of context? It did seem that what I read of this quote was more that he was careless in his comments - they touched a nerve, as I said. It seemed he was looking at a cultural problem from a tongue-in-cheek statistical line of reasoning, and perhaps spoke before thinking. At least, I HOPE that's all it was. I have not read this all that carefully, I must admit. I also admit I know NOTHING about him personally or his past.
Thanks for your intelligent commentary.
Comment
Obviously your beliefs bring you solace and comfort and that is a benefit that religion offers, in my opinion, and that is very good if it helps you.
However, perhaps you should not generalize. I was a hospice worker as well as watching my mother die from cancer. She was a life-long agnostic and I don't believe it ever even crossed her mind to call out to Jesus or Zeus or any other deity. She made the most graceful exit from this world I have ever seen and was at peace with that process.
I do agree though that in times of extreme stress many folks may want to enlist the aid of a higher power, but please don't assume that we all turn to Jesus.
Just a comment
Does this apply to anyone who helps a specific region? That would certainly limit a lot of programs that target specific groups of the poor. So when President Johnson launched his War on Poverty targeting Appalachia he should have been required to live there? I am just so happy to see interest and help provided for the most downtrodden sectors of our society (as well as worldwide) that I can see no good reason to require that the folks contributing have to change their place of residence.
Had to comment
The story about your prescriptions rings so true! My insurance company sends me these little papers after every x-ray, lab test, etc. that outlines what I paid, what they paid, and whether or not the price was reduced. I had blood tests that I was initially told cost $1,150. (I almost passed out!) After a few months of arguing with the insurance company and the lab, I get one of these little papers that says my $1,150 bill was knocked down to $150 - without my insurance paying anything. The lab went ahead and reduced the price since my insurance was obviously not going to pay for it. I've had this done with hospital bills, too. I just love looking at those numbers. Someone is making a HUGE profit somewhere for them to be able to cut the price down that much. Kinda like when I worked in retail and I got to see the difference between what the store paid to the manufacturer and what the price tag said. Sometimes I'd almost rather not know...
Just another comment
I've been watching all stations of the news. I'm not voting for Obama. I don't trust him. I also don't trust McCain and not voting for him. I'm sure I will write in someone's name. With that said I have seen no "love fest" with Obama (watch CNN, MSNBC, and FOX). I'm not seeing this "love fest", however it was so obvious with Clinton. It was so obvious and so nauseating that I always had a bucket nearby to retch in.
As for McCain..who is saying that he is supposed to "hide" the fact that he was tortured. I've never heard that on any station. However, McCain keeps playing it over and over and over. This is not the Vietnam war and I don't care what anyone says...just because he was tortured doesn't make him qualified to be President. What makes some qualified is having your "faculties" together. Know what country you are talking about and know what's going on with the countries. DH and I were looking at each other funny when he's talking about Iran and says the Israeli people and vice versa. He doesn't know where the Taliban are, and for sure he has no idea or plans to get this country back on its feet. He is a war mongerer and that's all he's planning for. If its not one country he'll start up a war somewhere else. It's what he thrives on.
As for September 11th - the truth will come out one day and people will be shocked and in denial.
First of all, i appreciate very much your comment...
about her daughter.
That being said...there are women in high places who have young children. I do not think that precludes Sarah Palin from serving. She has been managing as governor, including firing the state chef because she wanted to cook for her own kids.
JFK had young children. Both John and Caroline were very young. Jackie did a fine job raising them. They were/are fine young people.
the difference is that Sarah is VP, not president, and her husband will be taking a larger role. There are a lot of husbands who stay at home more to take care of children because of the wife's career. I don't remember how old amy carter was...13 maybe?
At any rate, that is not an issue for me. Those children seem happy and well adjusted after their mom being a mayor and then a governor, and I have no reason to believe they will suffer if she is VP.
I think that just brings her closer to understanding career women, who can have both without excluding the other. I think that makes her closer to mothers, period. She understands.
But that is just my opinion...and you are certainly entitled to yours.
Just a comment
Having offspring is not the only reason to get married as your post suggests (not saying it says that, just saying it "suggests" that). You said "If same-gender marriage was to be then where would there be offspring". There are a lot of man/women couples who cannot have children (like me), should that have stopped us from getting married? Loving a person and wanting to spend the rest of your life with them and share the same rights every other human being get to have should be the basis for a marriage. Just leave the offspring to couples who can have kids. The world will still be fruitful and multiple.
Well, my comment on that is ---
If you don't believe in abortion and you don't believe in gay marriage, then don't get an abortion and don't get married to a gay person, and you will still get to pay less taxes!
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(Basically, Russia wants to be able to trust the USA again but is deploying "short-range missiles near Poland to counter U.S. military plans in Eastern Europe" in response to Bush's missile placement in Poland and the Czech Republic.)
From:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081105/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_medvedev
After the speech, the Kremlin announced Medvedev had congratulated Obama for winning the U.S. presidency, saying in a telegram he was "counting on a constructive dialogue with you on the basis of trust and taking each other's interests into account."
So, no comment on JTP?
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I think we both know better so why should your comment
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Thanks. I appreciate this comment.
I was beginning to think I was hallucinating hate speech after hours and hours of defending the other side of the coin. Guess that means I should pack it in for the night. After all, the Israelis will still be attacking Gaza in the morning and I guess it wouldn't hurt to say a few prayers, begging for mercy and hoping the gound invasion will not take place.
My comment is to anyone
who lived that carefree, don't worry about tomorrow attitude that got them in the situation they are in now. Who in their right mind would agree to an interest-only mortgage, an ARM, or any other harebrained idea to own a home. I am more irritated with the ones who knew they made $50,000 a year and bought a $300,000 home and can now plead stupid and irresponsible and the gov't will bend over backwards to help them out. I am sick and tired of my money going to those who have no clue as to how to manage money, can't better themselves without the gov't helping out, and just plain expect someone else to pay for their mistakes. Believe me, I am tender hearted, feel for the children, etc, I don't want to see anyone lose their home but for cryin' out loud, take some responsibility and quit blaming the lenders; they did not FORCE people to buy homes. Sure, they made an attractive offer, but that does not preclude common sense going right out the window just because you want something. Shelter is a right; owning a home is a privilege when you can afford it.
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I'll take the ignorant comment
as a compliment....believe or not I do read a lot and from different perspectives. What people like you can't stand is that some people don't take the same perspective as you. If you want to live in a doom and gloom and defeatest mindset go ahead...you are certainly free to do so, but calling me ignorant for my perspective on the whole situation shows that you cannot accept other's views on the whole subject. Again, where's the tolerance and understanding?
Dont comment, please
A Xtian, if he/she does not want to look like a fool, should not comment on Israel.
Okay, one last comment (for the time being)
When I spoke of hijacked I meant:
1. I have been banned at times from the Conservative board for comments I've made which seemed pretty tame in retrospect. How many of you conservatives have been banned on the liberal board? I'll bet none, but hope I'm wrong.
2. The conservative board have reminded the liberals posting on it REPEATEDLY that it is their board, no bashing allowed and to go back to their own board - often in a very nasty fashion. Fair enough, but the same rules are NOT followed by the conservatives posting on the liberal board and that is definitely not playing fair and creates a double-standard.
3. It does make me happy to see conservatives posting on this board but I do not enjoy the bashing and the double-standard (see point #2) that I see going on. Worst of all, it turns me into a basher at times, too, out of frustration!!
That's it, didn't mean to start a civil war or anything.
I have learned SO much from both conservative and liberal posts and hope it continues.
Additional comment on this.
Open the website listed and take a look at ALL THE OFFERS. It is WONDERFUL. Some groups are accepting over 1000 people. It will make you feel like people really do CARE and they are all over the country.
Oh yeah, and what about the *pot* comment at the very end
Thought you didn't smoke pot gt? You were all up in arms about that last week So which is it, you do or you don't?
Nuevo California state motto---what grows in Nuevo California stays in California! 
Here is the comment I was talking about....
it was NOT a skit. She has done this twice. The time I am talking about, she said this: ...Rock bottom came when [Randi Rhodes] compared Bush and his family to the Corleones in the “Godfather” saga. “Like Fredo, somebody ought to take him out fishing and phuw,” she said, imitating the sound of gunfire.
THIS is the one she apologized for: The announcer said: “A spoiled child is telling us our Social Security isn’t safe anymore, so he is going to fix it for us. Well, here’s your answer, you ungrateful whelp: [audio sound of four gunshots being fired.] Just try it, you little bastard. [audio of gun being cocked].”
Anyone who wants to complain about Ann Coulter should try a little Randi.
If she did it twice, I have no doubt of her intent, no matter how many times she *apologizes.
Just to keep it REAL.
I guess my comment to that would be
Not everyone CHOOSES not to have insurance. Take my father for example - He worked in construction. He had a heart attack this past year. This past month, he was laid off. He will not be able to get private health insurance because of his heart attack. Not all people do not have insurance because they don't want to. Some cannot afford it. Others have it, but it is dependent on their full-time employment. People are getting laid off left and right down here. Those people will now be without insurance until they can find another full-time job. Yes, I do realize that there is Cobra, but the premiums for that are astronomical. How is a person without a job supposed to pay $800 a month for health insurance (for just one person)?
The other issue, is the one I bring up for my situation. I have a pre-existing condition. I cannot get private heatlh insurance. I HAVE to work full-time to keep this insurance. I have only two options - work full time or not work at all and get Medicaid. And yes, I had insurance when I was initially diagnosed, but I was covered under my mother's health insurance because I was in school and under 25. At that point, I got very sick and was not able to get a full-time job to cover the gap in coverage. When I tried to apply, I was denied. When I finally was able to work full-time, I had to pay for 12 months of insurance during which time NOTHING was covered. So, not only did I pay the $300 insurance premiums, but I still have a few thousand dollars in medical bills.
My main point was that the poster above mentioned free enterprise and letting insurance companies have free reign. I was just trying to explain why that is a horrible idea because insurance companies are a business and they only care about $. They of course will choose not to cover someone with an illness. SOME government control over the situation I feel is necessary.
Just had one comment to make...
I agree that we should have stuck with Bin Laden until we caught him, but here is the thing. Bin Laden isn't doing the fighting. He is sending his people to do all the ugly work while he hides and is well protected. The only way for us to win the war on terrorism is if the people in these countries fight themselves against the terrorists. If they stand up and say....I've had enough.....it will be a lot harder for the terrorists to do what they are doing. JMO though. We can't make them stand up to them though and I can't really blame them because I'd be terrified if I were them too, but that is the only way it will stop.
I think what she meant by the last comment - sm
was that now McCain has nothing to say about Obama's lack of experience because Palin doesn't have much either. I didn't take it necessarily as a bash.
How can someone be pro-life and pro-death penalty? A life is a life right? Most of the pro-lifers I know, have listened to have made comments about God's the only one who can take a life, well if that is someone's stand how can you be pro-death penalty. I'm not saying that that is her reasoning, God, but just a question.
I'm all for cleaning up gov't too, including your party, but isn't what she is under investigation for a bit of gov't corruption too with the whole ex-BIL incident. I read that somewhere too about firing the guy because he wouldn't fire her sister's ex.
I don't know if this is a good comment or not
Am confused. If its good, thank you. Still don't know what it means.
If its bad I guess I don't care then because I still don't know what it means.
obama's comment
He was asked about press inquiries into candidate's pasts. He chuckled and said that this has been happening to him over 18 months and repubs are complaining after only 4 days.
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