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Posted By: We think you republicans are STRANGE. (NM) on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: Objective?? ROFL..... - sam

Go Obama! Hilliary in 2012. The world is watching and the world says VOTE OBAMA.




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Don't go there - I made that observation last week
and got shredded apart for it.  I thought it was freaky, but all the super-dems took major offense to it.  It was just an observation on my part.
I made a general observation relative to the post.
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duh - I mean Canadian
I hate not being able to edit my posts!
Reply to a Canadian

How long do you consider too long on wait times?  I have alot of friends in Canada that complain all the time about how long it takes them to get in for diagnostic testing.  An MRI of the knee = 6 months.  An abnormal mammogram, ultrasound took = 3 months.  And the stories go on and on.  I worked in QA for about 8-years on one of the largest HMO's here in the US.  One of our projects was a lesion tracking program for breast cancer.  Our acceptable time frame which we entitled "sleepless nights" was 48 hours from time of an abnormal mammogram until the pt. had an ultrasound.  I have worked in several imaging centers where an abnormality was found and additional tests were worked in that day.  From everything I have heard from many of my friends in Canada, is that just doesn't happen there.  A woman I know broke her leg skiing, and she spent 4 days on morphine before they could get it set, it was over a weekend and no ortho doc was available. 


This is what makes me say NO to the type of healthcare system, it reminds me of our county systems here where you go and wait and wait for treatment.


A Canadian thinks someone else is strange.
lol
The Canadian post was phenomenal.
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Are you up to date on canadian journalism and who
What was once one of the best papers in Canada has been overthrown by crooks and cronies alike.....with their very liberal agendas! And you think you're getting a fair and balanced viewpoint from them? Humpf!!


http://www.adbusters.org/magazine/73/The_Death_of_Canadian_Journalism.html
Really? My Canadian friends have to wait 6 weeks for a CT.
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Canadian citizen just on the news stating how its
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The Canadian ecomomy is hurting just like the US economy, Why are you stunned? nm
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Oh and an observation. sm
Your a hoarder, aren't you?  You are one of those awful people who stores perceived bad things about people and then they cross you BAM!!!! It all just comes vomiting out. Yes, I know that you are and it's obvious by your posts. You are hit-below-the-belt kinda gal.  Any weapon in your arsenal, even when you are wrong and have been proven wrong, that stuff is just burned into your brain and even a hate-filled screed doesn't get it out. Not a pretty picture.
Observation....(sm)

I would agree that Obama is a pop culture thing.  However, if you sit back and look at it you will see why.  The younger generation typically gets it's news from shows like Saturday Night Live, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, etc.  All of these are slanted to the left.  The Obama campaing used the internet very successfully as well to reach the younger generation.  The republican party has done nothing like this to reach the younger voter.  Why?  If I were a young person I would look at it like, well, I guess the republican party doesn't want to take time out to actually reach us, so he must not have our interests at heart. 


This is also mirrored in the not-so-young group.  Obama was everywhere including, again, the internet, predominantly black churches, labor unions...the list goes on.  His campaign was inclusive of many.  He also had the benefit of more money which allowed for more visibility through commercials.


The McCain camp on the other hand went for predominantly white churches, less commercials, and very little internet.  I'm sure there are more than this, but I personally did not see any, and I live in TN (if you can believe that)...LOL


I think if you look at both sides you will see people just spewing out what they've heard in commercials or in speeches.  Not everyone watches cable news like most of us do.


The funny thing to me is that America voted in an African-American citizen with one parent from Africa, who admittedly not only smoked marijuana but also inhaled because *that was the point.*  ROFL.  I think it's obvious that the majority of people in this country want change.  They may not know what that change is, but they do know that what is happening now is not working.


Just an observation..sm
I do not consider myself strictly republican or democrat.  I always vote according to the issues, not the party.  Forty or 50 years ago it seemed that the working class folks were democrat and the upper class folks were republican.  There were not as many social issues involved in politics.  I was just a little kid back then, but I recall my father being a "democrat".  Jumping ahead to now, there are a lot of older folks in my area, especially rural areas, that don't look at issues at all, don't even know what the candidates support, but by golly, they are voting democrat all the way.
Just an observation...(sm)
The group "2 Million For Marriage" would like you to call them "2M4M."  Do these people not look up anything?  ROFL.
Just an observation here,
but wasn't he sworn in on a bible, and not a koran?  I think he just did not want photographs living on and on with him standing in front of a cross.  (Just in case he wants to hedge his bets.)
Just an observation...sm
I am not republican or democrat...I make my voting choices based on issues. I would just like to make an observation here. Maybe I haven't paid really close attention to political stuff in the past, but I don't know that I have ever seen this Country more split that it is right now. I have never seen or heard such irresponsible, selfish and disrespectful actions from Congress as they have done in the last year or so. It seems that no one, and I mean NO ONE, in Washington cares about the future of the United States, only about themselves or certain groups who they think can give them something. I'm not trying to start any arguing back and forth. I just needed to say this.
Just another quick observation...
when Clinton came to OKC after the Murrah bombing, even though he is not anywhere on my list of favorite people, I was happy that he came and represented the office and spoke to we Oklahomans. It was moving and I was very, very happy that he came. What I did NOT do, and what NO conservative I was aware of did, was complain that why did he come there and NOT go to the funerals of those soldiers who were killed and their bodies dragged behind Jeeps in Somalia. Why, you ask? Because the two had absolutely NOTHING to do with each other. And to try to make political hay out of what happened at Virginia Tech is immature, thoughtless, and another hurt to add to those poor folks in VA trying to deal with this. War is awful, hateful, and NOBODY wants it; however, death has always been associated with war. However, going to your class innocently on any April day and having a lunatic come in and shoot 32 of you is FAR different. And if you really cannot see the difference and the emotional effect, not just you but a great many on the left, need to really sit down and examine your values. Seriously.
Just an Observation, Observer.....

Approximately 65% of the posts on this board are made by you.  I have read some of your posts, and in one of them you state that you come here, as a conservative, mainly to read and learn.  Are you certain that this is, in fact, your main purpose for coming here? It would seem from the sheer number of your posts, well over 50% of them being made by you here, that your purpose is not to read and learn, but rather to dominate and monopolize. Just an observation....


A Realist's Observation...

Got this email this morning...


George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first SIX, with a conservative majority, the economy was fine.


A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%, the lowest in decades.
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high—peaked over 14,000
5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...


But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and we got 'CHANGE'.
In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;
2) Gasoline is went over $4 a gallon & STILL unstable!;
3) Unemployment is up over 5.5%;
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping;
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) And THE DOW is probing another low~~$2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS has evaporated from their stocks, bonds, and mutual fund investment portfolios.



Let’s not forget, the President has little control over any of these issues…ONLY CONGRESS.
And what has Congress done in the last two years?.....NOTHING!



NOW the candidates CLAIM they are going to really give us change…along with this same democratic Congress????


I don’t think we can stand much more 'CHANGE' like this….


What's y'alls' take on it...??


Excellent observation
Truth is truth and facts are facts. No matter how much you hate someone and think their dummer than a rock, you can't put the blame all on him. Everytime the democrats get into office the economy goes down the tubes. The facts are that the congress votes on issues (not George Bush).

Love the observation. Thanks.
I'm just making an observation (sm)
If there are any FACTS (and I'm not talking about an interpretation) relevant to this election from pubs on here, please feel free to point them out.  I am honestly trying to understand why people would vote for McCain. 
Great observation
I haven't thought of that aspect of all this hoopla and flash that has accompanied this whole election/inauguration. I'm not worried as much about him as I am his snooty, snobbish, holier than thou wife! She already has a goddess complex, I sure hate to see what all this is going to do to her. Seriously, can she get her nose any higher? Looking down on people like she's so above them, makes me sick.
You certainly have that one right - good observation
If only more people would realize this.
Good observation
You said it. It's sad to see that it's not balanced anymore and people don't want to hear the truth. My MIL thrives on bashing the republicans and the conservative shows. She listens to the way way left and all she can do is gloat about Obama winning and how perfect and handsome he is and she'll actually come out and state what she wants to happen to anyone who is a republican. The same thing she's screaming about if it happened to Obama but its okay if it happens to a republican. It's just very sad that this is what our country has turned into. - Zero tolerance for anyone who has a different viewpoint.

You are deifinitely right about the liberal rigging the game.
It was just an obvious observation.....
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An astute observation!! look it up!!!!
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Not to get a fight started...just an observation...
that little twinge is probably be the Holy Spirit and you would be well served to maybe listen to it....? Or perhaps you think not listening to the twinge in favor of listening to John Edwards is the better path.

God bless!
Attack versus observation

So if someone called me a big, fat, smelly, ugly, loud-mouthed, foul hag that could qualify as an observation (in your words) and would therefore be acceptable?  I mean, technically someone could say they OBSERVED these traits in me.  When does something cross the line and become a personal attack?


My take on all this is that if it originates from one of the C-posters it's an observation.  If it originates from an L-poster it's an attack.  Not always, but in general.  Could be due to the whole political board system have a very very far right-leaning slant........


Merely an observation. I'll pass on this and
Sam is hateful because sam is hateful. Her posts speak for themselves.
You make an important observation.
The "arrogance" and "elite" accusations are tactics used ad nauseum in the absence of direct debate on issues, when trying to avoid confronting talking points that have been raised and when trying to run from fact and valid observations/opinions. Usually these accusations are made by folks whose own fund of knowledge is limited on the issues at hand and who are not inspired to research to broaden their own fact base in rebuttal.

This is when the accusations surface and attitudes are substituted for intelligent discourse. You are right. The confusion you describe and accusations of this nature are typically leveled against Obama, who does display confidence, intelligence, substance and ability to lead, which unnerves his detractors and send them into fits and tantrums.
Intelligence offends you? Just an observation.
Oh oh, another big word....
Excellent post and observation
You saw the same thing I did too. The Queen would never be so low class to point out one's error in front of others. MO should not have put her hand on the Queen's back, shoulder or touched her anywhere. She should have shook her hand and that was it.
Yes I do have it made.
I do have it made, and it is well earned.  How much military service do you have under your belt?  How many political action committees have you served on? 
I don't think she has made this

decision without thinking about all she might miss with her kids.  My mom was at a lot of the things I did in school.  However, my dad was at work.  He was supporting his family by making a living.  He was making our situation better by working that overtime so we could afford stuff.  Would I have liked my dad to be at my tennis match.....sure.  But the reality is that even though he wasn't there watching, he still was literally the one supporting me and I appreciated and loved him for that.


As for Palin, did you ever think that maybe....just maybe she is willing to sacrifice time with her kids to make a better country for them as well as all of us?  Have they asked Obama about sacrificing time with his kids?  No....because we all just assume Michelle will take care of the kids. 


Al would have made sure we were . . .
not kissing (notice I did not say kicking) butt over in Iraq to get that oil.  This country would have been a lot further along with alternative energy sources!!!
I made my own
NObama pin which I alternated with an Obama pin (with the red slash through the O as in a no smoking sign). 
thank you SO much, made my day!!
That was truly worth the seven minutes!!
Please tell me you just made that up!!!
Because if you didn't, you're right, that is much more sick.
Please tell me you just made that up!!!
Because if you didn't, you're right, that is much more sick.
NO vaccines are made in the U.S. now???

Or is that another conservative "fact"? 


And, yes, those dang whacko liberals like Robert F. Kennedy and those of his ilk should be ashamed of themselves for connecting the presence of thimerosal in vaccines and resultant autism and attempting to STOP it.  Who cares about the children who are already here?  The most important thing is that we make sure not to hurt those inanimate cells in a petrie dish.


And, yes, it's certainly has been proven that there can be side effects associated with the smallpox vaccine where a small percentage of people might get sick and die.  We COULD maybe let the people CHOOSE whether they want the vaccine or not (if enough of it ever actually EXISTED to protect the entire country), but, no, free choice isn't a very "red" thing to do.  So the only logical thing to do is make sure that we deny the vaccine to all Americans so we can ALL die if terrorists decide to use that as a form of bio warfare. (By the way, I truly doubt that lawsuits will be much of an issue if we're all DEAD.)


Right?  I mean, you "red" guys know what should be allowed and denied in the life of every single American, don't you?  You've got some kind of special "divine knowledge" where you know what I should be "allowed" to do with my own personal body, who I'm "allowed" to love, how I'm "allowed" to plan my family, when I decide I'm "allowed" to die, and which God I'm "allowed" to worship without being doomed to eternal damnation?


 


wow, you made that assumption of me HOW? sm
by the way, the immaturity and silliness of your answer just makes you look like a fool.  Might want to work on that.
Yep, made a mistake, should have been why would anyone BAN you. SM
People do that all the time on the board, don't make a big deal out of it and I am perfectly FINE here.  Why.....feeling uncomfortable?   It's not like you guys don't take pot shots on the Conservative board now is it?
No, only the ones made by liberals.
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SOY was the one who made it personal anyway.
**This fits many on THIS board...To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.**

Maybe you missed that because you've stereotyped, judged and sentenced the liberals already.


Yes! You made my point exactly
They just keep shipping the jobs out until eventually we'll be left with millions of doctors and lawyers!! And who wants that?! :)

Seriously, something has to be done about this. Unfortunately, quite a few politians are paid by these big companies that make profits by off-shoring. We have to start putting major pressure on them to stop.
But who and how would that decision be made
From a legal perspective? Say "convenience" abortions are made illegal. I get pregnant and decide I want to have a "convenience" abortion. However, I know these are illegal, so I say the guy raped me. Who gets to pick in which cases abortion is permitted and in which cases it's not?

This is my main concern. You're preaching to the choir on the rest of it, because it used to disgust me when I would type reports and a woman would've had 15 abortions. I do not agree with that at all, and I don't think there are many who do. But, logistically speaking, again, it's either legal or illegal.
I only made it through the first two paragraphs
I had a nauseating sense of deja vu.
Its me again - you all made me laugh
Just had to write back to let you all know I enjoyed reading all your posts to my "rant" this morning. It's nice that other people see her for what she really is, and sad that others do not. Sure we all want to just up and leave when things don't go our way and nothing seems fair, but as my mama used to say "who ever told you that life was fair", and no I'm not rich like the hollywood people who can leave country at the drop of a hat. So, just to let you know my feelings have not changed about how I feel for her. No, I don't hate her, but I do see her for what she is and I don't like it. Well yeah, maybe deep inside I do hate her. I just wish she would just go away and I wouldn't have to see her anymore, but somehow they always find their way out from under the rocks (Bush & Cheney is included). Anyway....I have calmed down since posting (not not with medication, but with a good dose of reality from all who commented) :-) I don't have anything to worry about anyways though because even if she pulls some of her "maneuvers" and knocks out Obama she will never win over McCain - just a fact. (if by chance she does, then in November I will come back and tell you all I'm eating crow. HA HA HA. I'm also not worried bout it anymore -after all I do have a "mute" and "channel changer" on my remote control. :-)
This one's too easy. Just made my day.

Title of you post is lifted straight out of TT112OldTimer's post responding to Free Speech Rocks.  When spinning soooo out of control that the brain becomes blank, you can always resort to plagiary.  Hello.  Are you listening?  Vitriol out, vitriol in.  You might be shocked by how much respect you earn with just the simple gesture of extending some.  Respect is NOT a 4-letter word. 


 


Common sense is exactly what I used when I decided to attack my own bigoted tendencies back when I was still a teenager.  I did not learn any of that from books or courses I took in school.  I took it to the streets and reaped benefits beyond measure from those lessons. 


 


Au contraire.  The bluster of bigots is easy to bury under fact and logic.  No need to be thwarted by that.  Their reservoir of insults runs very shallow, but the intellect is a well that one can dig as deep as is necessary.  Fact/truth is another arch-enemy of the bigot.  You at least had the wisdom not to attempt to ridicule the context post since you knew you would be in way over your head and besides, you are allergic to the other side of the coin.  As they say, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.   It can’t be much fun to find yourself dumbfounded by your own narrow mind.  Frustrating too...remember it well. 


 


On the shortcut post:  That was your snipe, not mine.  Snipe begets tripe.  Vtriol out/vitriol in.  Garbage out/garbage in.  Is there an echo in here? 


 


Not the slightest bit interested in agreement, validation or vindication.  I am secure enough by now not to need all of that.  But in political contexts, the journey down the road to consensus will never begin in the absence of flexibility, open-mindedness and a good dose of patience.        


 


What part of my posts reflect your tactics do you not understand?  You absolutely refuse to look at yourself in the mirror, but you do know enough to be outranged when someone sends you your own reflection.  It’s not a pretty sight and furthermore, you become every bit as enraged as you seem to think I am.  You are constitutionally incapable of seeing what a spiteful little vixen you become when your brick-wall logic is thrown back in you face. 


 


No surprise there.  Bigotry is always blind.  Here’s another example you are bound to ignore:  You are so driven by your hatred of illegals that you would actually weigh in on the side of transnationals and cast your vote for the party who empowers them to outsource your profession overseas and drive your own wages into the ground.  


 


Well shut my mouth!  Could it be that you have finally run out of insults in the face of the realities of logic and have arrived on the threshold of the next level where most other right-wingers eventually find themselves...running for the hills and back into the open arms of the choir members?  You are big on cliché.  Here’s one for you...you can run, but you can’t hide.  Have a safe journey and I am “sending up a prayer” that you find the sanctuary you seek. 


no, my mind is already made up
I have been catching some of it (busy with MT and all) but what I really want to see is political commentary by someone who can say these were the good things about the speech and these are the things that weren't good or they should have talked about. Watching Democrat commentary they mostly say everything is wonderful and great speeches, and wathcing Republican commentary they mostly say the speech was lame or ineffective or whatever. Isn't anyone impartial? I'm really missing Tim Russert now.. :(
It would not be an issue if he had not made it one. nm
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