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No more than any of the Dem posters on this board....

Posted By: sam on 2008-09-04
In Reply to: Is that your mission in life? To try to prove that - everyone else in the world is wrong?

there's that pesky double standard again. Rather sad, really.


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I think that most of the posters on this board

forgot to read the post by the moderator. If they did, they wouldn't be acting so childish.


This used to be a nice place to discuss issues, but no more. It's been taken over by hostile posters. I stayed away for over a month and come back to what???...it's worse then ever!!!! They don't want to discuss issues. They just flame those that have a different opinion.


You have to stay cool and calm and take every post at face value, not get involved in a stupid argument, which is what most of these posts are lately, and not yell or use name-calling.


Freedom of speech does not work on this board and that is why I try not to post anymore. I just read and, sometimes, laugh at some of the most ridiculous ones, then count to 10 if I want to answer in an inflammable way...and leave the board instead.


I don't think 80% of the posters on this board........... sm
are for the bill.

But then, I'm no analyst. LOL
You have no right to talk to the posters on this board the way you have been
No, you’re the one who has no right to talk to us the way you have been. Who do you think you are. You’re the one who started in with “get off this forum and take a cold shower” I just repeated your words back to you. I see you sure didn’t like it when it was said to you, so why do you think it’s okay for you say it to others (no that is not a question – it’s a statement).

So in your own words it comes right back to you - “You have no right to talk to me like that. Who do you think YOU are. You are not the owner of this forum, not a moderator, and not management – you are just you.”

If you don’t want to be told to get off this forum, then you should not be telling others they need to get off the forum.

You claim you weren’t rude??? Here’s some of your quotes –

- get off this forum and take a cold shower
- You are a joke, 'Backward typist,'
- Confused or imbibed?
- There are meds against paranoia, don’t you know?
- You suffer from delusions
- The mind and world of caged-in Republicans and those whose life adheres to every little detail mentioned in the Bible, those are the ones who live in a small world
- paranoid and delusional, is this written in the Bible
- are you o.k.? Or did your UTI reach your brain (oh my wasn’t that one nice)

Oh, and here is an especially good one you said –

“I hate to repeat myself for those who have a slow mind.”

You have been on this board calling people losers, slow minded, pathetic, hateful, etc, etc

We know your democrat – we get it and that’s fine. (please don't try to convince us you are independent - we read your posts. Nothing to be ashamed of being a democrat. Everyone is entitled to their believes/opinions, but that’s doesn’t give you a free pass to bash others and call others names.

My suggestion again is that if you can’t handle a conversation without bashing someone because they don’t believe the same as you, or it just gives you joy to cut others down, there are other forums on the internet that you might be happier at. The moderator has said many times “no flaming”. It’s even at the top of the board and you might want to read it. Your getting very close.

This is the liberal board. Please do not bash the posters here. Thank you. nm

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All posters: This board is NOT heavily censored. We only wish to keep
This board is NOT heavily censored.  We only keep posts respectful.  If you don't like it, don't post. It's that simple.  If you can't post respectfully we don't need you here.
Posters may debate here or on the Conservative board and do so in
a respectful manner.  There will be no additional forum as these are sufficient.  If you cannot play nice and post with respect, do not post in this forum.  This goes for ANYONE posting, Liberal, Conservative, polka dotted.
With the glaring exception of several posters on this board...
who don't get it and aren't anywhere near the plate. That being said...I gave Obama kudos immediately. He did step up and in an aggressive way. Good for him.
Message for all Political board posters (SM)

Discussing such hot topics can really incite emotions.  We expect far more tolerance and, to a degree, a thicker skin from posters here. 


Posts with foul language or threats should definitely be reported.  However, simply because you disagree or find a post or poster abrasive does warrant removal.


Please always provide a link for news stories or cited information. 


Moderator


 


Message for all posters on Political board.

The topics on this board can be very inflammatory and sensitive.  In general, you need to be able to control your emotions and develop a "thick skin" to get along on this board. 


Please remember that the Politics board is for political issues/topics.  Anything regarding faith, religion, God, atheism, etc., belongs on the Faith board and those topics will be removed. 


We are not moderating the Politics board to make it a "nice" place to have "nice" discussions.  We moderate it to ensure that as much opportunity to express views, discuss opinions, and debate topics exists.  There will be heated exchanges sometimes.  Respect and civility can be maintained even when debates occur.  This means that you will have to moderate your own reading/responding at times. If a specific poster upsets you, don't read the post.  Sometimes you will simply need to refrain from posting. 


On occasion, there will be hit-and-run posters or trolls who try to upset you with their posts.  Ignore those posts. The more you respond, the more you feed their need for attention.  If there is foul language, hate speech, threats of violence or personal attacks, please use the REPORT THIS MESSAGE feature available.  Do not try to police the board yourself nor try to rally people to your support.  Let us simply weed out the posts and posters, as necessary.


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A Message to ALL Political Board Posters

This board is not moderated for "niceness".  There are controversial topics discussed here, as openly as we can allow.  You WILL find topics, opinions, subject matter that you disagree with.  However, just because you personally don't like it does not mean it warrants removal.  Please do report posts you feel are objectionable but understand that every person who reads and/or posts here should be practicing a pronounced effort at tolerance and allow a wide lattitude for differing opinions. 


This is a prviately owned website, however, and posting guidelines will be enforced as necessary.


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If it's so great there, why don't you STAY there instead of attacking posters on this board

all the time?  I don't need to grow any skin, thank you.  If people are just simply NICE and treat me with respect, they receive the same in turn.  It's called the golden rule.  Liberals on this board follow the golden rule.  It's the conservatives who must constantly attack, and frankly, it's tiresome.  You add nothing of value to this board.  NOTHING.


Posters on THIS board condone what Zarqawi and Bin Laden did?

Why?  Because they don't all agree with your highness?


Point out one post on this board that condones what they did.


You're pathetic.


This board is for liberal posters. Do not bash their posts. sm
Thank you.
Apparently other posters on this board do not share your view...
of free speech. Thank you for your permission, even though it had to be in the form of a potshot. That being said...I would equate fanaticism more with being on board for killing 1.2 million babies a year rather than being against it...but that is just me. I would think that liberals so concerned about war and the innocent killed during one...might show as much concern for innocent babies being killed like shooting fish in a barrel. But alas...not so.
I am responding to all the posters who have made a living on this board denegrating everything that
new President does, even though he has just taken office, give me a break. George had 8 years, and each year was worse than the one before it.....I am not "whining" about Bush, the past is the past and I am trying very hard to focus on change, on a new future, on how we can all help, etc., not waving the Democratic flag, but the AMERICAN flag, I am just referring to history, nonpartison history.
So you and your buds bash us on *your* board and suddenly, once you reach this board,

some respect?


You publicly post on the other board that you *try not to visit the bog of eternal stench.*


Well, doesn't look like you are trying all that hard. Or is that another example of Conservative honesty, like your buddy on the other board lies 3 times before suddenly deciding to be *up front* (in her own words) about the whole bogus line of crap she was spouting.


You and your 2 friends don't respect anyone unless they're a member of your little club, think exactly as you think, belong to the same political party as you belong, and believe in the very same little narrow SUBsection of one particular religion.


That's what I interpret from YOUR WRITTEN WORDS.  Your posts don't show respect.  They only show twisted *facts*, ignorance, anger and hatred.


You can't be *respectful* on your own board but suddenly, when you come here - HERE - the place YOU call *the bog of eternal stench* you suddenly discover some respectability during your mouse click from there to here?


Please.  Some of us aren't as stupid as you think we are.


You're becoming quite a bore.  You and your friends stated you don't want us on your board, but you're not happy unless you're picking a fight.  You and your *gang* told us to leave and not to post on *your* board.  Maybe that should work both ways.


Out of ALL the problems with radical Conservatives, maybe the most annoying thing is that you don't believe in equality at all.  You believe in SUPERIORITY.  Somewhere along the line, someone made you think you were special and above everyone else.  Sheesh!  You're not happy unless you're dictating to everyone else in the country what they're allowed to do in their own personal lives regarding life, death, science, etc. You even think YOUR GOD IS BETTER than everyone else's.


You want to make the rules, censor people and tell them which boards they can and cannot post on, but YOU want to invade them all and spew your ignorance and hatred. 


In my heart, I believe there are sincere, honest, intelligent Conservatives out there who are capable of a sensible debate.  I've seen them.  (I hope you don't chase them away, too.)  But and your crew don't fall in that category, and this will be the last of your inane posts I will subject myself to.


Talk about stench. Just read your very own posts.


Can we bring the board back to the true reason for the board

Can we get the political board back to the true purpose of this board – to share opinions of why we like our candidate.  Not bash and cut down others because they don’t agree with you.


I stayed away from this board for the past couple days because anyone who had anything positive to say about Sarah Palin got slammed, bashed, kicked down, etc.  After awhile I found it all too draining, and was not seeing any reason to come.  Yes, I did see some of it towards people who favored Barack Obama, but if you read the posts again it is mostly towards anyone who favored Sarah Palin/John McCain.


I thought the political board was for posting information regarding politics and candidates.  What I have seen for the past few days is that it has been an attack board.  Especially if you have anything positive you want to share about Sarah Palin.  You say something good about her and you get attacked, you answer back, and you get attacked more, and then when you get mad and pretty much say stop attacking me, they come back with this “Geez, I’m allowed to have an opinion”.


Another thing I am tired of seeing is the slanderous, hate filled, really off the wall comments about Sarah Palin.  The latest was something about her daughter actually had her baby.  Talk about just bizarre comments.  I thought what’s next, she’s an alien from another planet?  The more I kept reading the more the comments were getting just really weird and bizarre.  Of course nobody ever having any proof of any of these allegations.  I then came to realize that the posters were just trying to get a fight going.


I also saw posts that had nothing to do with politics but attacking a poster named Sam.  Again, probably trying to get another fight going for no good reason and on things that have nothing to do whatsoever with politics.  I’ve read “Sam is like an annoying nat that you sway away”, “Sam, please let me know where you work” or “she must have her quota” or “sam is to the politics board as oracle is to the”  This childish rhetoric is getting old.  I’m not defending sam she is a big girl and I can see by her posts she can take care of herself, but my point is that this has nothing to do with politics.  If you want a fight maybe you could request that the administrator create a separate “fight and degrade” section.


I’ve read the administrators post a couple different times called Beware of Flaming.  She/he said as long as we realize that not everyone is going to agree we shouldn’t wear our feelings on our sleeves and a little more oversight on here would be good.  Let people express his or her opinion and move on.  If you don’t like someone just ignore that person. “It’s not rocket science, you know” (I liked that statement)


I consider posting on this board a privilege and not a right.  If you don’t agree with something and you post that you don’t agree and state the facts why (and are civilized about it) that’s one thing, but when you bash and degrade others without showing proof and just want to start fights and belittle others it just seems a bit juvenile to me.


I come to the politics board to hear ideas and stuff (facts) about the candidates.  That is how I’m learning about each one, but I don’t want to read people attack other posters for no good reason.  I'd like to hear about Obama/Biden & McCain/Palin, but I want to hear facts.


If you like to fight so much why don’t you pick on people that you can fight to face to face. 


we need more posters

here about the liberal issues, the more we have, the more the bilge from the right will be diluted.  Don't be run off, now girl.


 


did the dem posters

on this board ever consider that this country is lost to yokels and religious fanatics who actually enjoy the vittrole of the Fox nation?  That they elevate a corrupt, sarcastic shrew nobody to a Great New Candidate?  That they actually view anyone from any other country in the world as a scarey fur-i-ner and think that the fact other countries look down upon us is proof we are #1? Our schools have gone steadily downhill.  Our families are falling apart.  There are basically fewer and fewer educated and intelligent people around to see beyond the poison being spoonfed to us by the republicans.  Remember in the Frankenstein movies there was only 1 monster but dozens and dozens of ignorant village people whipped up in a frenzy chasing him with sticks and torches.  We will have the government we deserve.  You can bank on it. 


 


For those posters below who like to

  1. Bush ignored the advice of more than 450 economists, including the Bush administration's own Economic Advisement Council and his own treasury secretary, when they warned that his tax cuts would fail as a growth stimulus, increase inequality and worsen the budget outlook

  2. Unemployment rate rose from 4.2% in January 2001 to 6.3% in the first 2-/12 years of the Bush administation.

  3. During the first 6 years, income rose an abysmal 1.6%.  Though the inflation rate was at historic lows during those years, (2% to 3%), income failed rise at the same historically low rate.

  4. Poverty rates rose from 11.7% in 2001 to 12.7% in the first 6 years.

  5. When compared to business cycles from the previous 50 years (1949 to 2000), Bush policies underperformed in terms of GDP, jobs, income and consumption…especially in the jobs sector.  Go here and scroll down to the economic growth section for a really cool graph that illustrates this point.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_policy_of_the_George_W._Bush_administration

  6. Income inequality rose as the Bush policies benefitted the top 1% of the income earners.  The Congressional Budget Office, shows that "the average after-tax income of the richest one percent of households rose from $722,000 in 2003 to $868,000 in 2004, after adjusting for inflation, a one-year increase of nearly $146,000, or a whopping 20 percent.  In 2005, the top 1% received its largest share of gross income since 1928. 

  7. Total budget surplus for FY 2001 was $128 billion dollars.  Here's how W eliminated that and added to the US public debt: 

 


Fiscal Year                 Value                           %GDP


2001                            144.5 billion (B)         1.4%


2002                            409.5B                        3.9%2003                            589.0B                        5.5%2004                            605.0B                        5.3%2005                            523.0B                        4.3%2006                            536.5B                        4.1%2007                            459.5B                        3.4%


Notice how the value and %GDP trend reversed under the democratic congress.


8.    Pubs like to blame dems for opposing oversight on Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.  They fail to mention that the 2 times during the Bush administration the issue of an oversight agency was entertained occurred in 2003 and 2005…under republican majorities in both House and Senate.  Those dems must have had some help from somewhere. 


the administrator, not the posters
I did not say I have information on IP addresses..I suggested to the conservatives if they think I am constantly posting with other handles than my own, they could contact the administrator and ask her to check the IP address of the posts the conservatives keep saying I am posting under and it would prove I ONLY POST UNDER GT, NO OTHER HANDLE..Those other posters are NOT ME..The administrator of this site of course can check IP addresses..NOT US, the administrator..
LOL, three different posters, I assure you
You are the one who is entertaining and silly cause gt, dixiedew and libby are three different posters, not one and the same..so you are the one who is laughable..LOL
The posts were not from posters outside of the US. They

were from posters from within the U.S.


We have had several posters here from out of this country.
They were dispatched post haste by the people on this board because they did not espouse their views. 
Posters like this need to be left alone
nm here
driveby posters
definition: Those who have families and activities that prevent them from parking 24/7 on a small message board repeating same opinions over and over. 
Just keep it about the politics, not the posters.
If the personal attacks keep going, nobody will be left to disagree...then we'll have a pretty boring one-sided Politics board....nobody wants that:-)

Fight away, but please keep it about the issues and/or candidates and not about each other.
Re: Right-Wing posters - sm
Not all of us are 'all for this pay-my-mortgage idea.'

I'm a conservative Republican and I think it's baloney that people who greedily signed their lives away to buy houses they couldn't afford should get a hand out. Their hand out came when they were allowed to ATTEMPT to pay the mortage they contractually agreed to. If they blew it, tough luck. No hand outs for irresponsible behavior.

I agree that if Uncle Sam wants to cut people checks for 75K, it should be for ALL Americans. And I'd be a danged site more resonsible with that money that these greedy homeowner-overreachers would have been.
ATTENTION POSTERS

There are way too many personal attacks, foul language and abusive posts going on here. 


Read the sticky above.  Also read that it is NOT saying to write whatever you want on here. 


We're getting loaded with report after report after report to delete messages from this board. 


Back off and take it easy on people.  Absolutely NO MORE personal attacks.  You don't have to like a candidate, but that doesn't make the poster who does any less of person nor do they deserve to be attacked or belittled or called names. 


The same is true for those that are reporting absolutely every little thing on here.  Read the sticky.  Beware of flaming in these posts.  If you are too sensitive to be on a political board, then please don't read the posts. 


Huh? Two of the posters are directly below
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shelly -- don't let these posters

discourage you.  Keep spreading the word.  As a previous O supporter, I knew that he was pro-choice.  I did not, however, know to what extreme.  I simply thought he chose to support Roe v. Wade, as many do.  Had it not been for this board, I never would have researched and found out about the FOCA.  There are people on this board who can still be won over.  Keep on "harping"!!!


The people who are trying to keep religion out of politics are the same ones trying to keep it out of our schools, our money, and ultimately our homes. 


Here we go - bashing posters again
you claim the republicans bash and she's not bashing YOU ARE!!!!!!!
For all Politics posters - sm

If you have a problem with a post, use the Report Message button at the top of the screen.  Do not post openly about it.


Personal attacks are not going to be left on the board.  Discuss your views and perspectives, debate, argue but leave off personal attacks. 


Every poster here has the right to their own opinion.  As long as there is no inappropriate language, name calling, hate speech or maliciousness, opinions can be expressed.   While "freedom of speech" may be a right in the US, this is a privately owned site and the degree of "freedom" to say what you want is limited to what the board's administration outlines. 


Whether or not you agree with the morality or position of a particular view is something you will have to moderate within yourself.  You can do this by determining what you will and will not read.  Stop with the personal banter trying to "notify" posters you are not reading their posts any longer, etc.  Simply stop. 


Reading the Politics board is an exercise in tolerance, patience and flexibility. 


Feel free to email the moderators or administrator at any time. 


Moderator: Cher  (cher@mtstars.com)


 


And these other posters are the people
we show respect for Obama! This man who continues to wow us with his dark and dangerous associations that we are to accept without question. I am still in shock!
Oh, yea. The other posters reminded me

I need a house. We are living in a basement, the front sided and open so we can have windows, but 3 sides under ground. This was the basement of the home we were going to build on top. Build this place for $10,000 using as much as we could from the old house that was flooded out in ྜ and had to build on higher ground even though we live on a hill.


We won't go into debt now because the county states our place is worth $100,00. Yeah, right. Try to get a loan or HELOC (which we would never do now). We'll live like this until we win the lottery. LOL


Perhaps these posters were just "dreaming," as we do when we think.......sm
what we would do if we won a lottery, it is fun, but not practical. Now saying what you INTEND to do with a certain amount, like a tax-cut rebate, is different, so I would not be too hard on anyone on this board. There are so many folks going through such a tough, scary time, that sometimes you just have to dream a little. I love your monicker, BTW!
No, she had 3 posters above laughing
her off as if she didn't know what she was talking about, claiming they had never heard of such a thing. One even claimed to have over 1900 channels and had never heard this. That alone should be proof that the majority of the news channels do not present but one side. You see why Fox News is the most watched news channel there is? Good reason! Oh, and BTW, I just saw on Fox News the NAACP wants the young cartoonist AND his Editor fired, so I am sure their days with the Post are numbered!
No, her mother did not.......posters like YOU did!
xx
Your on the wrong board - you need to preach on the faith board
You just delivered a sermon (or quote). Either way it doesn't belong here. What does this have to do with politics. The democrat and republican party did not start up until after the 1800s. Socialism also wasn't created until the 1800s.

To me your post describes the way humans should treat other humans. This has nothing to do with politics - imho.

Because you posted on the Main board not Politics board.
It was removed, as we do not have an option of moving from Main to Politics.

This could have easily been avoided had you posted on the correct board.

The response from another poster to not post political viewpoints on this board was becuase you posted it on the Main board.
There are more trolls over here lately, and driveby posters...sm
And some of them even post how amused they are to come over here and dump on us. I guess this is their only source of amusement in a day is starting a fight on the liberal board. Whatever floats their boats?!?!?!
Please do not bash liberal posters. Thank you. nm
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Trying to intimidate posters who don't agree; always

hope a lot of these posters are not mothers
because they would be horrible role models for the younger generation.
you have no right to attack posters who disagree with you
there is too much of that going on here in my opinion
do those boring posters include you too?

nm


Stop insulting posters!
x
Glad to know there are still posters with common
JTBB wouldn't know facts if it bit her in the butt. Same posts over and over, bashing Bush with absolutely NO facts but when facts are presented back, JTBB absolutely goes bezerk and starts ranting more and more about Bush. Made all these accusations when Obama was running for president, bashing Bush and actually rambled on and on about HIM destroying the constitution? Well, Bush has signed things into law which are against the constitution BUT I think it's about time JTBB got off the Obama love fest wagon and realize her precious Obama is just about to sink this country..........he doesn't even BELIEVE in the constitution let alone our civil rights.

Hope your post shuts JTBB up for a while until the Bush rants start again....
It's just that the other posters tonight were much more respectful and better informed.
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You sound like one of the more level headed posters here
I'm glad you don't hate him. Disagreeing with his viewpoints and policies is one thing, but I'm reading a lot of posts and you can tell a lot of people really hate him. I don't agree with some of his issues. I don't agree with some of McCain's issues. I think your also one of the first posters who said anything good about McCain. What just really worries me about McCain is his attitude, his mean temper, and his readiness to send us to war anywhere.

Oh, I think I may have not quite said it right in my original post. I wasn't blaming oil companies and CEOs for the mess we are in, I was stating (or trying to state) that they are the ones who decide who our next president will be (that and you know that secret group that meets every year "behind closed doors"). I still have very high doubts that the "people" pic our president (but I could be wrong of course).
so if obama is assassinated, it will be because of the posters on this forum?
i really hope you're wrong about all that - i don't think the posters on this forum are bigots and haters - i don't think it's about that at all.