Translation: I watch a lot of Fox News and stick strictly to party rhetoric.nm
Posted By: LVMT on 2006-08-13
In Reply to: I have studied U.S./Israel relations - huh?
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This pub party rhetoric is at least 50 years old.
applies to the 21st century please?
Denounce Fox News Outrageous Rhetoric
Fox News Crosses the Line
Target: Fox News Sunday Host Chris Wallace
Sponsored by: Media Matters
For news coverage to be "fair and balanced," there has to be a line separating news from political activism – a clear boundary between legitimate commentary and demagoguery.
Fox News Sunday host Chris Wallace repeatedly characterizes his network as "fair and balanced" – a source of news that should be taken seriously. However, several recent actions on Fox News illustrate that the network is contributing to a culture of conservative paranoia and anti-Obama political activism.
For example, since launching his Fox News show, Glenn Beck has engaged in increasingly outrageous rhetoric that promotes a culture of conservative paranoia – from imitating President Obama pouring gasoline onto the "average American" to mocking Obama's aunt's "limp."
If Wallace wants to continue to portray his network and influential Sunday show as a credible source of news, he owes it to his viewers to speak out publicly against Fox News' recent behavior. So please join us in asking Chris Wallace to publicly denounce Fox News' recent actions and repair the damage done to his network's credibility.
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You just stick with the Communist News Ninnies. That's more
O'Reilly sometimes uses three-syllable words, so you wouldn't be interested.
rhetoric rhetoric - just tell people what they want to hear, it worked in 2000 and 2004 right?
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I don't watch TV. Especially the TV news. Never have. nm
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You obviously don't watch much Fox news, do you....sm
In their efforts to be fair and balanced, they'll have two libs on to one conservative, and almost always end up leaning leftwards of center.....
Makes me sick, actually. Especially seeing Fox is trashed all the time for being ALL conservative and therefore shouldn't be watched, when that is far from the case....
Fox gives equal and more often than not, more time to the lib point of view.
That's hardly fair and balanced, the way they claim.
And still they're bashed for being right wing.....go figure.....
Tsk!Tsk. I watch Fox News. I really
find them to be pretty accurate in their reporting. They interview others on the good and bad from the news of the day and get both sides of the picture. I don't know what is so bad about that. They are not as biased as the other news programs....believe me, I've watched quite a few mostly one-sided news.
FYI, I'm not talking about O'Reilly, Hannity and Colmes, Greta VanSustern, etc. I'm talking about the regular news.
I guess you don't like it because its more fair in its reporting and not one-sided.
Anybody watch ABC News tonight?
Charlies Gibson had a personal interview with JM about Sarah. Very interesting. He has the utmost confidence in her as VP.
Most of the news tonight was on the convention.
watch Faux news they are all
about flags, lipstick, crosses in the sand -- all the symbolic distraction you could ever, ever hope for.
You must watch MSLSD and get your news from those
credible sources Keith (I'm jealous of Bill O'Reilly's fame, fortune and ratings) Olbermann and Chris (I get a tingle down my legs when Obama speaks) Matthews.
Maybe it's because I watch a lot of news on different stations
besides reading political news in the WSJ, hometown paper, and others.
Seems like I can't have a down-to-earth discussion with you so from now on, I will ignore your sarcasm.
Everyday I watch the news or
look at the news on the internet, etc. and there is always a murder mentioned in the news. I'm sure that there are people who are targeted merely because of their sexual orientation. However, people are murdered everyday. I personally hear about murders more than I've heard about murders based on sexual orientation in the news. How many little kids went missing one right after another one and they found their bodies later? We have gang related killings. We have race related killings. We have religious related killings. I don't see the schools teaching about acceptance of religions because there are people who are targetted merely for their religious beliefs as well. It truly is sad when you think about all the murders that occur day in and day out. It makes you wonder what is wrong with our world that a man can shoot his wife and children and then himself or that someone can take a child, molest them, and then kill them. It is very sad indeed.
All depends on what news you watch, polls
are all over the place
I watch Fox News also. I have watched all networks.
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I disagree. I watch all the cable news networks
his observations about their evolution of identity to be quite astute and entertaining.
Translation
"I really don't care!!!" means "I got busted falsely accusing someone (which is my usual and customary practice), but instead of stepping up to the plate and admitting it like a decent, honest human, I pretend like it never happened and that I REALLY DON'T CARE!!!
Nighty night, MT. I have a life to live. Thanks for all the laughs and smiles. I'll miss you. 
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I don't come here often -- once a month or so. Is the common response when one is bested and has no reply to state "you proved my point." I see it has popped up twice (at least) today when the bitterbamanators are pinned to the mat. Just want to know the ground rules for when I drop by next month.
Which are strictly your opinion and that
based only on what you have read and listened to, none of which has been proven. He has not been around long enough to prove any of the rumors or claims we have heard about him. All we know for sure are uncertainties.
Do you vote strictly based on what your
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Translation: to do my part for the good of ME.
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Why strictly the topic of religion Mr. Trebek?
The knowledge, or lack thereof, that inspired the previous poster is related to an apparent unwillingness to determine the truth about Prez-O's upbringing. So you may be able to trump them in religion, but I'm thinking common sense and any question that requires a fact-based answer will go to the other poster.
Isn't it time to watch Hannity or bowl or some other watch Nascar?
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Rhetoric?
I don't know what posts you have been reading, friend Lurker, with the anything to do with hatred, loving terrorists, etc., are directed at the post containing just that thing. One poster who shall remain nameless stated emphatically that investigating Bush took precedence over terrorism. To me, that is a statement supporting terrorism, and while maybe not idiotic, does not seem to me to be a very smart thing to say, considering Amadinejad stated this morning he wanted the next group of Al Qaeda leaders to come from Iran and that he was sending the US a message soon. And then this afternoon, we find out that the nuclear watchdog group found plutonium in the nuclear waste at the Iranian nuclear plant. But your liberal friend who proudly calls herself so wants to investigate Bush rather than concentrate on terrorism. That would be laughable if it were not that a great number of liberals are in full agreement with her. Which is concerning to say the least. Several who post the liberal board and on the conservative board who clearly identify themselves as liberals do hate democracy (evident in their posts), make frequent statements in support of terrorism (taking attention off them is supporting them), spout socialist policies (why they are called socialists)...if you don't fall into any of those categories, should be no big deal to you. You are including yourself in the group saying we. Liberals come to the conservative board too. Conservatives are not the only ones who cross over boards.
Rhetoric
Per Onelook:
▸ noun: study of the technique and rules for using language effectively (especially in public speaking) (hmmm...yep)
▸ noun: using language effectively to please or persuade (okay, I get it)
▸ noun: high flown style; excessive use of verbal ornamentation (ohh, for sure!)
▸ noun: loud and confused and empty talk (that's the nuts and bolts of it)
As far as rhetoric is concerned, I would say O has it mastered.
Palin was speaking the truth, plain and simple, and she has the record to prove it. Get over it. If you are so embarrased, go live somewhere else.
Where is all of "O's" big bipartisan rhetoric now?
Obviously that is all it was....rhetoric. Preached we had to work across the aisle...bipartisanship...to get things done. And now, with the biggest crisis this country has faced in decades, and he has a chance to put his money where his mouth is...what does he do? Decides what is best for Barack, and that is the tack he takes. ANY credibility he had left with me is gone.
Admit what? Your rhetoric?
BTW, brush your teeth - your breathe stinks - I know where your head has been.
Guess not. 50-year-old rhetoric
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Here's the deal. This kind of rhetoric is exactly
and does absolutely nothing to advance the cause of your broken down party and the dirth of leadership you are currently experiencing. This kind of disconnect between your party and the rest of us is exactly what you should be spending your time trying to come to terms with.
Being a democrat, it is fine with me if you persist along these lines, since it would serve to ensure similar election results next time around, but for your own sakes, you guys really do need to GET A GRIP.
Bitter self-serving rhetoric?
I have absolutely no personal ties whatsoever to the middle east, so exactly why would I be bitter, and what would I have to gain? Your statement makes no sense. The main benefit of actually recognizing the history of the region (as opposed to the Israeli version of the *truth*) would be for better political relations with the middle east. Have you noticed that the rest of the world sees what's going on? Why do you think there is so much resentment in the middle east for the US? Israel (or rather our empowering of it and it's abuse of that power) is one of the main problems over there.
Why would I care about your opinion? I don't. There are very few people's opinions that I actually value on this board. Those would be the ones who can actually discuss a subject with reasonable viewpoints, and guess what? Most of them disagree with me on most everything. LOL
I'm simply trying to get you to stay on the subject, which is obviously a lost cause.
Your rhetoric was meaningless months ago...
and it is just as meaningless today. I supported Obama then, and I support him now, as do all of the people who voted for him. It must be miserable to live with such hate in your heart. I would pity you, but it seems that you are doing a pretty good job of that on your own.
I am an independent....neither party is "my" party.
THis election cycle I believe the best man is a Republican. Do your research. John McCain warned about this in 2005, named Fannie and freddie by name, co-sponsored legislation to control them. Blocked by Democrats, led by Chris Dodd..same guy now trying to fix what he and the Dems broke. Chris Dodd, #1 on contributions list from fannie/freddie, followed closely by #2, your shining knight Mr. Obama. The chickens have come home to roost all right...or should I say the donkeys. :)
No difference. Fact is that primary rhetoric
whenever you try depict rhetoric reversals as LIES, the challenge of your own candidates reversals will be waiting for you. Lame game and pointless.
Yes Sam, Biden is running with O. JB is a 35-year veteran in the Senate and if he felt O was not prepared for office, why then is is willing to place himself on the same ticket? JB knows what he is doing. There is no stronger statement of support than that. No brownie points for you on that one.
Day by day, we will be seeing dems, pubs and indies surface from Alaska who have bones to pick with SP. Wonder why that is? You can try to discredit and dismiss them to your heart's content, but you cannot ignore the fact that the public is never that forgiving and these types of testimonials will have impact on voter confidence. Funny how the verifiable facts that are a matter of public record included in Kilkenny's comments seem to have completely escaped your notice. Those facts will stand for what they are...challenges to the claims that she and the party are making about her fiscal responsibility and evidence of her tendency to want to run the show, run over anybody who gets in her way and take revenge on those would would oppose her. Not such a breath of fresh air after all, and looking a bit on the hypocritical side...a trait that some people associate with dishonesty. So yeah, whose lies and whose truths are not for you or I to decide. We have no choice here except to do our homework, put our views out there and leave it up to the voters to decide.
Actually, nasty, tacky, low-class rhetoric is exactly that,
You seem mighty sure of yourself while you presume to speak for a complete stranger.
I would think with all your anti-semetic rhetoric that you would be a big fan of Hitler's!
Oh the hypocrasy!
No, work for a living, and have heard all the liberal rhetoric before.
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Bush just casually reverses 5 years of rhetoric. sm
How many more lies before everyone wakes up?
Editorial Toledo Blade: Another lie on Iraq
WHEN President Bush declared last week that nobody has ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the 9/11 terrorist attacks, a large segment of the American public must have been very surprised.
They would be the die-hard supporters of the war in Iraq, the one-quarter to one-third of Americans who, according to opinion polls, believe to this day that Saddam was somehow involved in 9/11.
No one likes to think that their President is lying, but for Mr. Bush to casually reverse five years of rhetoric is like Bill Clinton claiming I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky.
No, there is no DNA evidence that we know of to indict Mr. Bush for perjury. But the public record includes repeated statements by the President, Vice President Dick Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, and other administration officials that linked responsibility for the 9/11 attacks to Iraq, both directly and indirectly.
The alleged connection was the administration's strongest selling point for the war, slaking the American people's thirst for revenge for the 2001 attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C.
As Mr. Bush put it on Oct. 7, 2002, We know that Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist network share a common enemy - the United States of America. We know that Iraq and al-Qaeda have had high-level contacts that go back a decade. … We've learned that Iraq has trained al-Qaeda members in bomb-making and poisons and deadly gases.
Here he is again, in his 2003 State of the Union address: And this Congress and the American people must recognize another threat. Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications, and statements by people now in custody reveal that Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of al-Qaeda.
And in his Mission Accomplished photo op, May 1, 2003: In the war on terror, Iraq is now the central front.
Mr. Cheney was even more specific: In 2003, the vice president claimed that the government was learning more and more about links, before 9/11, between Iraq and al-Qaeda. This came even after the CIA had debunked any such claims. In 2004, the veep said flatly that Saddam had long-established ties with al-Qaeda.
Now, you can argue all day about whether faulty U.S. intelligence misled Mr. Bush, or about what the meaning of suggested is, but this much is clear: The administration relentlessly blurred what was a clear distinction between the militantly secular regime of Saddam and Islamic extremists like the 9/11 hijackers so as to create a laser-beam connection in the public mind that they were one and the same.
So for Mr. Bush to now claim that nobody has ever suggested that the Sept. 11 attacks were ordered by Iraq, as he did last week, is yet another lie in the chain of mendacity that shackles the Bush presidency.
Bush starts changing his tune/rhetoric.....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061112/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_iraq
I understand the moral stance, but feel the rhetoric is over-the-top.....sm
This man is NOT pro-abortion, as many of us are not. He is preserving the right of choice for ALL women, and does not believe that a poor woman who has undergone a rape, incest, domestic violince/intimidation situation, or even has just accidentally gotten pregnant with a child she cannot carry for medical, emotional, or financial reasons....I hate abortion also, but if Americans are to be equal, then a poor woman needs to have resources available to her which would be available to others, or you are damning her to the back-alley abortionists. That is reality. I, Myself, married 18 years, vigilantly spacing my children and on birth control, came up with an unexpected, very difficult pregnancy. Yes, we made the choice to love and take this baby into the world, but we also had SOME resources and family, some girls do not.
There are not many folk who are PRO ABORTION, but preserving the individual choice, though abhorrent to many of us, is part of true liberty. And God Himself will judge as appropriate.
And I do feel that those few who use abortion as a means of birth control, well there should be restrictions and a definite "no."
You're a good little communist/socialist/marxist in your rhetoric..nm
I don't watch Fox, I watch CNN and feel the
exact same was .... just sayin
I don't watch Fox, I watch CNN and feel the
exact same way .... just sayin
Yes, better stick with
your characature of Obama because it always makes sense to take something and run with it.
Have to stick up for him already...nm
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Stick around
I got a million of 'em. I'M HERE ALL WEEK, FOLKS! Be sure to tip your waitress!
Just stick it to grandma,
that there medication..she's a fakin'..we'll slash her Medicare benefits! 'Sides we can always borrow more money from China..uh,what's his name? Oh and we'll let the grandkids pay....Huh? What deficit? Hurricanes Katrina, Rita, and the war? Bake sales! Doin' a heckuva job! Just keep dem hands off doze tax cuts! 'Scuse me, gotta do more speechifyin' 'bout what a good job I'm doin'. {{{smirk}}}}
Ah, the Bush way...good plan. It would be funny if it wasn't so freakin' pathetic. Heaven help us.
please stick to the issues
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Take this website and stick it
you know where. We all know PUBS are the ones who cheat. Please, what is wrong with you, really???
I will stick up for Sam, too. -not a bully.
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So I should stick myself in a room
and never go anywhere because it's everyone's right to display sex drugs and violence everywhere? Where is my right to live in a society that doesn't bombard us day and night with those lifestyles?
The least you could do is stick to the subject...(sm)
As far as how I could vote for Obama after 911. Well, probably because he won't go running all over the middle east starting illegal wars in the name of fighting his "the axis of evil." My guess is once he straightens out Bush's mess, which is a job all by itself, he'll do what this country needs him to do -- restore credibility.
Did you stick your tongue out at me too?
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