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Unbelievable! I posted an article disputing everything you said.

Posted By: PK on 2006-07-07
In Reply to: Skinheads don't join the military. - sm

Now who am I going to believe?


A newspaper (that you admittedly don't LIKE) or YOU, who obviously knows more than I would ever want to know about skinheads?  You (and your party of lies and deceit) don't have an ounce of credibility, and I'd believe the NYT any day over the ignorant, bigoted, hateful likes of YOU!


In case you haven't noticed, there is a huge controversy over rape and murder of civilian Iraqis.  It certainly makes sense that a neo-nazi skinhead group would carry out these kind of brutal acts with no conscience and without thinking twice. 


Your beloved skinheads are making the rest of our very FINE military look bad, yet you defend these filthy subhumanoids. 


I'm not surprised that you're angry because apparently what was supposed to be a big secret is now being publicized.  I'm also not surprised that you're defending them.  I fully expected some from the other board to reveal their true selves when I posted the article.


You're repulsive.  Go crawl back under the rock you slithered out of.  You're leaving a disgusting slime trail. YUCK! 


This will be my last post to you.  I don't deal with hateful bigots.




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DW, if you will look at the article I posted....
you will see some of your concerns addressed. I think the link piglet posted in her original post, where she went searching for more on Camp Cropper....that link has to do with something else, not Camp Cropper. Two different persons in charge. At any rate, Camp Cropper sends kids outside the detention area to school taught by Iraqis, not Americans, just a more moderate view of Islam also not the militant jihadist kind. It says that Sunni and Shiite teens are starting to interact and the hatred seems to be disappearing. And, as piglet rightfully pointed out regarding Venezuela and how the young people were effecting the change...so can it be in Iraq, because that is where it starts, correct? And it sounds like this commander over this detention center, with the help of Iraqi teachers, is doing just that. Not trying to convert them from Islam, just give them a different view of Islam and a choice other than violence. As you say, they are the future of the Middle East, and I think the school that Camp Cropper uses is the way to help that happen. As the Iraqi principal said...mostly they are just kids wanting to be kids. And if we can turn a few of them from jihad and toward reconciliation within their own country, then I think it is well worth the effort.

Have a good day!
That article posted above was NOT about
It was about SCHIP.

Snapshots: State Coverage Expansions, Despite Economic Downturn
Despite the economic downturn, a few states are continuing to pursue coverage expansions. States such as Indiana are expanding Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) by extending program eligibility up the income ladder. Other states are taking more unusual approaches, such as mandating children's coverage (New Jersey) or extending dependent coverage for children to young adults (Illinois and many other states).
This article you posted clearly contradicts your assertions..
Read what it says about Christianity, also.  I believe the article is stating that Hitler's belief about Jews, capitalism and communism was faulty -- used as an excuse to exterminate them.  It does not state that Hitler's three excuses for hating Jews is based on factual evidence, quite the contrary.
I think perhaps you read a different article than the one posted by Lurker.
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See the article I posted above by Peggy Noonan.

She talks about Bush's out of control spending, and she's no liberal!


Bush cut OIL COMPANY PROFITS?  Yeah... right!  Time of crisis or not, they don't care.  I'm no O'Reilly fan, but O'Reilly publicly challenged the oil companies on his show to just voluntarily take a small reduction in PROFITS during this time.  Ain't gonna happen.


For all the conservative posts on our board, I haven't seen ONE who can explain who is going to PAY for all Bush's spending.  I pity the poor person who is the next President and inherits Bush's huge MESS.  If (hopefully) it's a Democrat, you can bet the necons will be trashing him/her from the git-go, calling him/her atheist, drunk, and whatever other libel they invent between now and then.


I'm working as hard as I can because my daughter and her husband won't be able to afford to heat their home this coming winter.  There is no way I'm going to let my grandchildren, daughter and son-in-law freeze, and I'm going to try to help out as much as I can.


I've read where some of the most radical whacko evangelicals with a direct pipeline (no pun) to God blamed Katrina on lack of morals of people in New Orleans.  In the light of Rita, seems to me that God's actually targeting the people controlling the oil rigs.  Maybe God's warning that if we don't quit coveting and trying to steal oil from the Middle East's Gulf, God's going to send in a really BIG storm to destroy the oil rigs in America's Gulf.  Maybe it's God's way of telling Bush that Bush isn't listening to what God has been telling him, that we need to protect and take care of our own, and stop lying and murdering and killing for his own personal gain and that of his cronies.


Sorry to go off on a tangent here, but I become very angry at the thought of my family freezing this winter (even though they work hard and are/were considered middle class).  Hopefully, I will be able to help so that doesn't happen, but what about all the other families with children out there?  What happened to conservative family values?  They obviously don't exist if a school choose to CLOSE to conserve fuel, and oil companies keep right on churning and collecting huge profits.


Just like you, I truly hope a revolution is churning.  Someone has to start caring about regular, hard-working, underinsured or uninsured people in this country.  These are the people who are the backbone of this country, the people who do the REAL work, while the fat cats (Bush's base) sit back and get fatter and fatter with Bush's blessings!


Exactly, in fact, the Ann Coulter article I posted sm
has past turnovers in congress and house under other administrations. This is nothing compared to the past.
I was talking about the article you posted with no source. sm
And my point was if you believe everything that is written, well...never mind.  Rush likes to gets libs going and it looks like it worked for you.  I like him.  MY opinion is that he not what you say he is, so we will have to just agree to disagree. 
The above article posted a little messy. trying one more time

Bush vetoes children's health bill a second time


Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:11pm






 

 







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By Caren Bohan


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President George W. Bush on Wednesday vetoed a bill expanding a popular children's health-care program for a second time, angering Democrats who are locked in a fight with the administration over the budget and spending.


Pushed by the Democratic-led Congress but also supported by many Republicans, the bill was aimed at providing health insurance to about 10 million children in low- and moderate-income families. Taxes on cigarettes and other tobacco products would have been increased to pay for the aid.


Bush vetoed an earlier version of the bill in October but Congress quickly passed another one that included some changes but not enough to satisfy the White House concerns.


"Because the Congress has chosen to send me an essentially identical bill that has the same problems as the flawed bill I previously vetoed, I must veto this legislation too," Bush wrote in a message to the House of Representatives.


The fight between Congress and the White House over the health bill is one in a series of clashes over spending that have arisen this year.


Bush has said the funding level sought by the Democrats for the health program would have expanded it beyond its original intent of covering poor children and marked a step toward government-run health care.


Democrats say the additional money is needed to help families who cannot afford to buy private health insurance but who earn too much to qualify for the Medicaid health care program for the poor.


"This is indeed a sad action for him to take, because so many children in our country need access to quality health care," House of Representatives Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, told reporters.


The bill would have provided $60 billion in funding for the children's health program over five years, compared with the current $25 billion five-year funding level.


The tobacco tax increase would raise the levy on cigarettes by 61 cents to $1 per pack.


House Democratic leaders said they will not try to override the veto right away and would vote on a bill to ensure the more than six million kids now in the program can stay enrolled.


(Editing by Todd Eastham)


(Additional reporting by Donna Smith and Richard Cowan)




I didn't say I believed it, just posted an article
I wouldn't be too quick to put words in someones mouth just for the sake of mocking them. I never said I believed it. I know it happened in Nazi Germany (holocaust). I only posted the article because when I started searching on welfare, government takeovers, and other topics, that topic kept popping up.

Do I believe it could happen. Not really. Just thought it was interesting. So,...all I said I believed was the plan to put the country on welfare. If you want to mock me for something at least mock me for what I said.
Don't think you read the same article, THAT IS THE TITLE...see the link I posted...

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I posted the entire article, but I MUST be LYING! LOL! Link inside. sm
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/8/30/230457.shtml
The article posted is not the complete conversation. Ever hear of Freakanomics? sm
That has a lot to do with the conversation. As usual, the MSM left out significant parts of what was said.  No surprise there.
Unbelievable. SM
So does being a progressive mean that you give America credit for nothing?  Are you a Marxist?  40 million Jews included those detained in death camps who survived and those forced to leave the country or otherwise affected by Hitler's extermination process.   But you would have to know history to know that.
Unbelievable!
With some help again from Diebold, she seems to have the moral fiber and economic policies required to become the next neocon President!
here's another one.....unbelievable!!...sm

this one is more recent, 2 days ago...other one was 3 days ago...


http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=71759&videoChannel=1


Unbelievable. LOL.....
Any thread is a conversation and anyone can respond. You are the one who got all bent with the "was I talking to you?" comment.

Speaking of intolerance...LOL.

If it is so boring, why do you respond? Probably because nobody but me will even engage you, in the "real world" or in this virtual one. How sad....LOL
You are unbelievable. I'm done with you.

You can't carry on a civilized conversation or bring any important information into debates.  You are nothing but a troll.


UNBELIEVABLE!!

Democrats put an earmark in the bailout bill for ACORN....


***Edited by Moderator***


URLs or links only, please...no copy/paste of copyrighted materials.


 


http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008809140383


unbelievable
use your head. blood and guts wouldn't be on wall street. it would be in our backyards. Did you ever hear of 1929? Know how many people lost everything? It wasn't the wall street guys, it was the people who worked and saved. they stood in bread lines. they used newspaper for the soles of their shoes. Know how many people commit suicide? This would be the same thing all over again. Geez, think it through before you wish for something to reckless.
Unbelievable.....

http://84rules.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/crony-capitalism-is-root-cause-of-fannie-and-freddie-troubles-democrats-at-the-center-of-it-all/


With this out there, plus video of Frank opposing reform, Pelosi gets up and thanks Frank and Emanuel for their intellect in dealing with this situation.  If it weren't so pathetic it would be funny.


Now saying Repubs did not vote for it because their feelings were hurt and they were "punishing the country."  And said...are you ready for this:  "We have the votes to pass it but it would not be right if it was a Democratic majority.  That would not be good for the country."  HUH?  lol.  Translated:  If it goes south we don't want to be the only ones to blame.  Yeah, that is really putting country first.


I am so disgusted, not with all democrats, but certainly all the ones on the hill.  I wouldn't vote for a Democrat for congress this time around, period.


Unbelievable is all I can say, nm
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Unbelievable
The posters below have so much hatred towards Palin they'll excuse an abusive cop!

Oh and I'm sure your all okay with the voter fraud being commited by the democrats too!

Unbelievable!

It's absurd drivel like this that will lead to something catastrophic happening to President Obama, who happens to be a CHRISTIAN!


Unbelievable!

First you guys say he shouldn't do anything because he's not in charge yet.  Then, when he does do something you do nothing but post articles and sayings from Fox news and right-wing conservatives.  (In case you haven't noticed they are turning on each other right now and really have no room to talk about anyone else.)


The 2 posts below in particular that caught my attention were the "drill, drill, drill" post and the reference to adding onto the deficit.


1.  Drill, drill, drill.  If you want jobs NOW, as you posted, you might want to look somewhere else.  Just how long do you think it takes to get an oil rig flowing?  LOL. 


2.  Deficit.  Would that be the same deficit that your beloved Bush gave us as a parting gift? 


And then there's the not so insightful article that was posted basically saying this would be the Clinton administration again.  You may want to wait on the criticism until you hear what he does instead of using speculation.  And oh yeah, would that be the same Clinton administration that left us with a surplus before Bush got in there?


Unbelievable.......
please take the time to read the post from "no one is coming" above and you might understand before you go into a tizzy.
What IS unbelievable
These same people heralding this as a wonderful thing are the same people if, they were forced to participate in a religious ceremony (or "religious voodoo") with which they strongly disagree, would be the first to scream how their rights are being violated!

What hypocrites!


Unbelievable is all I can say, keep twisting
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Unbelievable is all I can say, Everyone so quick to...sm
believe and condem. Does not anyone know that what you read on the internet is not gospel? I have not heard a thing on the national news, so I will wait and see.
Unbelivable. Truly unbelievable.
You have a strong opinion on Michael Moore but no opinion at all on Phelps and WBC. Oh wait, you think he has a bishop at all and that his congregation will object to his teachings?

Oh wait, I understand now. You responded to the OP regarding your dislike for MM, but you know nothing about WBC or Phelps. You think that this is a hatchet job by Moore on a church and is, as such, untruthful.
Unbelievable! Drug dealers (sm)

There was a drug bust in my area overnight. One form of heroin being sold was stamped "Obama 09" !


Good heavens! Now they're even rooting for him. I have never heard of anything like this before.


Unbelievable, ignorance abounds. nm
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Unbelievable that there are no responses to this post.. All I can say is...sm
this is so true. In my opinion, people voting for the republican ticket are either right wing religious voters, rich voters, poor under-educated voters who are easily led, bigots who would never vote for a black man, or people who for whatever reason buy into the terrorist, Muslim, anti-American, anti-Christ, foreigner, not like us scare tactics that abound.

I find it unbelievable that they keep bringing this up.

It only makes things worse, not better. The anger it causes with "outsiders" coming to that small town does not do any good. Let the people of that town alone. They're doing okay without outsiders stirring up trouble.


I'm not just talking about that town. It happens all over the USA. These groups get together and go to a town just to stir up trouble. I've seen it happen again and again. They have no right sticking their noses in where it doesn't belong. Let them protest in their own towns.


The KKK does this all the time, too. They don't get the press, though, and they shouldn't be sticking their noses in where it doesn't belong, either.


OMG, unbelievable. People near retirement age..sm
expected to get a higher education to keep a job. No way. How could a person even afford it, and once you graduated, you'd be too old and couldn't find a job. He addressed this in an awful way IMHO.
I agree completely. Unbelievable.

This person either didn't even watch the clip and is completely unaware of Phelps and his "activities" or simply silently condones the heinous things he does.  I particularly despise Phelps' uninvited attendance at the funerals of American soldiers and his "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" motto.


I would be this person posted himself/herself blue to blast Rev. Wright, but this Phelps moron is okay.


Unfortunately, it says a lot about some people who post on this board. 


I emailed the moderator and why are you being so cruel? unbelievable
Ever think you might hurt a person's feelings? Or you simply do not care?
Each brown place in the link takes you to a different article that supports this article...nm
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Unbelievable - Individual cities are now asking for money from the bailout -

What do ya'll think about this?  I cannot believe it.  The bailout was bad enough when it was to keep the banks from failing which was going to ruin us all, but now these individual cities are asking for money for things such as mass transit improvements, expansion of clean technology businesses, to fund long-neglected infrastructure, more police, upgrades to airport terminals and runways, upgrades to wastewater treatment plants, etc.


Where is it going to end?  What happened to all the taxes people have been paying in for years anyway?  Why was it not being used for those things all along?  And why should I in Georgia have to pay to give people in other states money to fix things?  Alaskans are not giving me part of that money they get every year from their oil...  Maybe that is selfish - but if they continue to take and take from me, then what I am supposed to do? 


So does someone's comment at the end of the article, discredit the whole article??
Unbelievable. 
Wow, I can't believe you posted that. sm
considering all else you have posted on these boards.  LOLOLOLOL!!!  Man oh man!
who posted it?
I suspect it was the person who goes under the name Brunson who posted the Army mom post as in the post it talks about C-Span and I kind of thought..mmmmm..this is just one of those crazy right wingers posting to start stuff..So right after the post came through, I checked out the right wing board and Brunson was posting the same thing about checking out C-Span today.  Coincidence?  I dont think so..Two posters within one minute posting about checking out C-Span today? 
She posted this as a
She stated above the reference to the Clinton body count and that it was a conspiracy theory.  The statement of someone above *It seems that people that sue Bush turn up in bad health or dead* is every bit as much a conspiracy theory as this.  Someone on both boards has been trying to spam us with conspiracy theories for days now none of which have an ounce of substance or actual fact behind them.  Most of us can see the difference between conspiracy and an actual story with facts behind them.  It's really hard to get away with conspiracy theories when there is so many facts out there on the net.
This has been posted before. sm

And is in no way or shape complete or accurate.  Rumsfeld served 3 years.  You think a flight instructor is a small job?  That's pretty telling.  Clinton dodged the draft by deferring for a ROTC duty, which he never fulfilled after writing his famous loathing of the military letter. So if we are going to post these lists again and again, let's get it right.


Well, as I posted before...
...it's probably good that you love something, even if it's based on cruelty and mockery. 
Do you really mean what you just posted?
Do you actually liken Gitmo to the Hanoi Hilton? Seriously??
Yes, I just posted it too, right after you. sm
It brought tears to my eyes, that the Obama campaign could do such a thing.

And tears that McCain cares more, quite obviously, of our country and it's symbol.



Sorry. This should be posted
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yes! I posted below. Don't let

the Fox zombies drown out the truth on this board. Bless you.


 


When I first posted
I did not know who it was benefitting. I later found out it was benefitting Obama. Either way if it was benefiting McCain I'd still be saying this is not right. 11/4 is voting day. I'd say a sure fire way to comit fraud on the democrats side. Do the right thing and vote on 11/4.
I don't think they have posted the new one....
if they have, I can't find it.
This should have been posted under
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