Yeah, lets give our money away and make our
Posted By: enemies our friend. Thanks Obama -OMG.nm on 2008-09-19
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Yes, lets all give more to the freeloaders and
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Yes, lets all act like grown-ups and make the
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So sorry for your loss. You make great points. Lets
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It takes money to make money. nm
Lets make a bet on how long it takes dems to turn
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Yeah, lets spend billions, go into more debt while
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FED money give away
Read a report that the FED was just recently found to have given 2 trillion dollars away to someone for some reason. They wont say why or who but it is OUR money. Nice that they do not have to answer to anyone. Obama is putting lobbyists in his administration even when he said he would NOT and just about every person that he picks are tax evaders but they get away with it basically. The media doesnt even bother to report on the detention centers that they are wanting to build in our country to have in case there is a martial law and they never even broach the subject of the civilian military that O wants to start. O supporters can flame me and try to tell me that this is because there is no truth to it. PLEASE. When will you guys stop allowing yourselves to be fed like a bunch of babies by the media and O? COME ON. It's like you guys dont have eyes in your heads! THANKS. You guys wanted change so badly you were willing to jump at the first thing that sounded good. America is going to be so changed for the worst, I doubt it will ever be the same again and all of you who voted this fool in will be responsible for allowing it to happen. I am voicing my opinion now because I feel that in the very near future, I wont be allowed to.
Yeah, lets talk about Billo the Clown and not the guy that died in US custody! (sm)
Wow...that's what I call total disregard for others.
Yea, keep it in your pants and give that money to
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Why don't you give your time & money to the
She's obviously living your idea of the Model Life.
What a fine, upstanding woman that Nadya is. She's a real beacon of inspiration to the rest of us to 'go forth and propagate.'
You people are too blinded by your own sense of self-worth to ever be of any worth to anybody else.
Get a job. Put a low-income student through college. Pay some single mother's rent or buy some groceries for her kids. Go help out in an underdeveloped (and over-populated) 3rd-world country. Read books other than the bible. You might actually learn something of value that can be put to use in the real world, not the fantasy-world you live in.
Good point. We give money because we want to.
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If you are going to give money to re-educate the auto workers....... sm
then it would follow that money should be given to sustain and re-educate the people in other industries (MT comes to mind) that are suffering because of big suit mismanagement and jobs going overseas. What about the thousands upon thousands of other displaced workers in the public sector that have lost their jobs? Will they need to be re-educated as well? Will there be jobs available to them, even if they are re-educated?
Maybe that's what all those re-education centers all over America are for. hmmmmmmm
Well, they already made him give back Hamas' money.
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Why do you make such little money?
I don't understand how you and your husband only make $24K between the two of you. Working an average of 30 hours a week, I will make close to $40K this year.
Not judging. Just don't understand how as a Transcriptionist you can only be making that much between the two of you.
For those that think they will make more money!
Federal taxes, 28% of EVERYONE's income....... higher state income taxes, higher sales taxes, and higher property taxes.... and the lists go on and on. And this is for the average joe.... not the corporations! Taxes WILL go up eventually because for all those that refuse to admit it, where will that money come from to pay all those trillions of dollars? YOU will!! It's just a matter of time. And when the hyperinflation sets in shortly, which it will, and your grocery bill continues to increase by leaps and bounds, your utility bills have skyrocketed, you think Obama is gonna pay that for you?
AND when corporations pay more, YOU pay more.......... Obama should have the sense enough to know corporations will pay their raised taxes out of hiking up everything WE (the consumer) pay for........ so you have to ask yourself since most of us know it's not the corporations he is really going after, what is he really trying to do to this country?
If we give up all this money now and do NOT demand full disclosure/accountability to these foul thie
despite all the duplicity in the banking crisis, are STILL in corporate positions, then we have just thrown good money after bad and our whole system will go down faster. These guys do not even know what accountability means, and someone has to TEACH THEM, if not, be replaced, no more hand-outs, and face stiff fines for misappropriation of tax payer's money/government funds. We need to act fast, but not BLINDLY AND RASHLY!!
Gosh, you are funny! You should try to make more money as a comedian on SLN..nm
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Yeah, do you have ANY idea how much money of
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Yeah, GIVE AIG whatever, but loan the big 3
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Yeah and I give him credit
that's one time he told the truth.
yeah, and that whole "steal from the rich to give to
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Yeah, spend more taxpayer money on food stamps.
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Yeah, we need conservative radio shows to give any
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Oh yeah! I'm sure you make over
$250,0000. Give it up. Just cuz you lie over and over doesn't make it true.
Yeah, and why do none of you make a big deal re:
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Yeah, I think my MENSA ties just might make me "minimally"...sm
intelligent too....lol....
yeah, but could care less really doesn't make sense if you think about it -nm
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Yeah, next time we're just going to make our candidate a pop star.
Since it worked out so well for y'all.
Why don't you just let go of the bitterness already? It's petty.
Printing money we dont have? Borrowing money
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta
Well lets see
try having a daughter wandering around like a ghost and a 2-year-old grandson wondering where his daddy is. Try having to explain to a 2 yo why daddy is never coming back. Yeah your right, the holidays are not great around here this year as I am sure they are not great for a lot of families who have lost someone in Bush's miserable war. So why dont you and Writer go natter elsewhere and let the grownups talk here.
lets see her
Okay, let's have Mrs. Palin on the interview shows. I want to see her interviewed by Bob Shieffer, Mat Lauer, Andrea Mitchell, George Stephanopoulous, Meet the Press, etc. We saw that she can really deliver a written speech well. I want to hear her personal views on foreign affairs and improving the economy. She has experience in Alaskan news, so I will expect a camera-ready, polished performance.
Lets all say............
Obama doesn't have any experience, executive or foreign!!!! And yet, he's running for President.
At least Palin knows what executive experience is, which is more than Obama has.
Oh lets s/m
We need to lighten up around here. I'll start a thread and then I really have to get busy.
lets not go there
OK I can understand questioning his name given 9/11. But what the heck does it have to do with being black? Can you please tell me? I swear.
okay, lets go with that....(sm)
Let's say for the sake of argument that he is Muslim. With this in mind, he would be going to a christian church, all the while faking having the christian belief. So when Rev. Wright gets up and preaches, I can assume that since Obama is supposedly a Muslim and not a christian, that he would not believe what is being preached. If Obama is not influenced by what is preached in this church, then what's the big deal about Rev Wright and the supposedly big impact he had on Obama?
NOBODY can make Saddam look good. But Bush seems to be the ONLY one who can make him look less
If you can't make abortion illegal, just make it impossible (sm)
That's right, Bush is still alive and well. Check this out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#28024676
Yeah, I know it's MSNBC, but how many other people are doing a lame duck watch?
lets tar and feather them
This lying immoral corrupt administration needs to be tar and feathered and handed over to the families who lost loved ones in this illegal war and occupation of a nonthreatening country. I have lost no one, however, I gotta tell ya, if I had lost someone, I would not be as kind and soft spoken as Cindy Sheehan. I would be hell on wheels.
Just trying to help, sm lets people know there is ...sm
a message inside. If you put nm, no one will open your post because they think there is nothing inside.
lets just wait and see how it
all plays out. As for McCain being incontinent, I did not know that until you said so. That's a shame.
I know, lets just talk about....(sm)
Obama's b/c. It's perfectly okay to try to discredit the guy who isn't even in office yet over a bunch of unsubstantiated rumors, but let's not talk about the guy who is in office now who has single-handedly brought this country to it's knees as well as destroyed all credibility of this country on a global scale. Again, Bush is still running new legislation through that will affect us for years to come unless it can be reversed. How about that new agreement with Afghanistan? Yeah, that would be the one that will directly impact our people over there -- not in a positive way. It sounds to me like you have a good case of *out of sight, out of mind.* That's a pity.
Yes they will see increases when the O lets ...sm
the Bush tax cuts expire in 2010.
Everyone's taxes will go up.
Everyone.
Interesting how the O doesn't bring this fact up at all, like it will have nothing to do with him.
hmm...no you win....lets argue about that instead. nm
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lets get it straight abc
i said "Your can save us" what does that mean? That is what I said. I also said i think you are stalking me or something like that because you bashed me over and over and called me a stalker. I never said anything hateful in that post and never said your spelling sucks. Also, I am done arguing with you and all the people on this board like you. You know the ones that are just looking for a fight. The ones that LOVE to stir the pot and point out everyone's faults but their own. The ones that scream hate and prejudice and all that crap when someone voices an opinion that is slightly different than their own. Have fun tearing each other apart. I will post my beliefs and opinions and ignore the people that get on simply to stir up anger. 
Lets look at the big picture
Seems like each time a president leaves office everyone "hems and haws" at the list of people they pardon (especially those who dislike whatever president is leaving office). Every exiting president has had their list of people who should never have received pardons. Some yes, like first time offenders, people arrested for mairjuana, or caught turning back odometers, etc).
Maybe you should have also posted the list of people Clinton pardoned. All you said was "he pardoned some nice ones too". You make it sound like GW is pardoning hardened criminal while BC only pardoned some people who did petty crimes. Even though you didn't say that, by saying "he pardoned some nice ones too" it takes away from the seriousness of the people he did pardon. But since you didn't post Clinton's pardons I will. Now before anyone throws a fit because I know a lot of you think Clinton is the best thing since sliced bread, I'm just posting to show that he pardoned as many creeps as Bush is. (BTW - I didn't, have never, and do not support Bush - can't stand the guy, but at let's try to keep it honest here). Oh and my favorites are the money launderers, income tax evaders, bank fraud, conspiracy to defraud the government, issuing worthless checks, bank fraud, etc - all those things that helped to start bringing our economy down). Those and Roger Clinton, Marc Rich, and Susan McDougal, I did notice how he pardoned a lot of people who lied, but then again that was Clinton's whole 8 years in office - one lie after another, so doesn't surprise me he pardoned people who lied under oath.
You said something in regards to food stamps...look at #22 on Clintons list - Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps. I found an interesting article called "10 Heated Presidential Pardons" that goes back to George Washington. I'll post the link. All I'm saying here is that each president throughout our history has pardoned some pretty bad people that should not be pardoned. GW is no different and no more worse than any of the previous. Here's the article - an interesting read.
http://www.kitv.com/presidential-race/17578058/detail.html
Here's the list of Clinton's pardons
[edit] Pardons
- Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States).[4]
- Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
- Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
- Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
- William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
- Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
- Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
- Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
- Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
- Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
- Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
- David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
- William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
- Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
- Douglas Charles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
- George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
- Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
- Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
- David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
- Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
- John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
- Mary Louise Campbell (Unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps)
- Eloida Candelaria (False information in registering to vote)
- Dennis Sobrevinas Capili (Filing false statements in alien registration)
- Donna Denise Chambers (Intent to distribute cocaine)
- Douglas Eugene Chapman (Bank fraud)
- Ronald Keith Chapman (Bank fraud)
- Francisco Larois Chavez (Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens)
- Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
- Roger Clinton, Jr. Cocaine charges(half-brother of President Bill Clinton)[3]
- Stuart Harris Cohn (Illegal sale of commodity options)
- David Marc Cooper (Conspiracy to defraud the government)
- Ernest Harley Cox Jr. (Defraud of federally insured savings and loan)
- John F. Cross Jr. (Embezzlement)
- Rickey Lee Cunningham (Intent to distribute marijuana)
- Richard Anthony DE Labio (Mail fraud)
- John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
- Richard Douglas (False statements to a government agent)
- Edward Reynolds Downe (Wire fraud, false income tax returns and securities fraud)
- Marvin Dean Dudley (False statements)
- Larry Lee Duncan
- Galen R. Elmore (Convicted of cattle theft)
- Robert Clinton Fain
- Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
- Alvarez Ferrouillet
- Henry O. Flipper - guilty of "conduct unbecoming an officer" (1882)
- William Dennis Fugazy
- Lloyd Reid George
- Louis Goldstein
- Rubye Lee Gordon
- Pincus Green
- Robert Ivey Hamner
- Samuel Price Handley
- Woodie Randolph Handley
- Jay Houston Harmon
- Rick Hendrick
- John Hummingson
- David S. Herdlinger
- Debi Rae Huckleberry
- Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
- Donald Ray James
- Stanley Pruet Jobe
- Ruben H. Johnson
- Linda Jones
- James Howard Lake
- June Louise Lewis
- Salim Bonnor Lewis
- John Leighton Lodwick
- Hildebrando Lopez
- Jose Julio Luaces
- James Timothy Maness
- James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
- John Robert Martin
- Frank Ayala Martinez
- Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
- John Francis McCormick
- Susan H. McDougal
- Howard Mechanic
- Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
- Samuel Loring Morison
- Charles Wilfred Morgan III
- Richard Anthony Nazzaro
- Charlene Ann Nosenko
- Vernon Raymond Obermeier
- Miguelina Ogalde
- David C. Owen
- Robert W. Palmer
- Kelli Anne Perhosky
- Richard H. Pezzopane
- Orville Rex Phillips
- Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
- James G. Powell
- Norman Lyle Prouse
- Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[5]
- Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
- Charles D. Ravenel
- William Clyde Ray
- Alfredo Luna Regalado
- Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
- Marc Rich
- Howard Winfield Riddle
- Richard Wilson Riley Jr., Cocaine and marijuana charges, His father was Clinton's Education Secretary.[4]
- Samuel Lee Robbins
- Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
- Michael James Rogers
- Anna Louise Ross
- Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
- Gerald Glen Rust
- Jerri Ann Rust
- Bettye June Rutherford
- Gregory Lee Sands
- Adolph Schwimmer
- Albert A. Seretti Jr.
- Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
- Dennis Joseph Smith
- Gerald Owen Smith
- Stephen A. Smith
- Jimmie Lee Speake
- Charles Bernard Stewart
- Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
- Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
- Richard Lee Tannehill
- Nicholas C. Tenaglia
- Gary Allen Thomas
- Larry Weldon Todd
- Olga C. Trevino
- Ignatious Vamvouklis
- Patricia A. Van De Weerd
- Christopher V. Wade
- Bill Wayne Warmath
- Jack Kenneth Watson
- Donna Lynn Webb
- Donald William Wells
- Robert H. Wendt
- Jack L. Williams
- Kavin Arthur Williams
- Robert Michael Williams
- Jimmie Lee Wilson
- Thelma Louise Wingate
- Mitchell Couey Wood
- Warren Stannard Wood
- Dewey Worthey
- Rick Allen Yale
- Joseph A. Yasak
- William Stanley Yingling
- Phillip David Young
- Keith Sanders
- Darren Muci
- John Scott (not a full pardon)
[edit] Commutations
- Ronald Henderson Blackley
- Bert Wayne Bolan
- Gloria Libia Camargo
- Charles F. Campbell
- David Ronald Chandler - federal death row inmate[1].
- Lau Ching Chin
- Donald R. Clark
- Loreta De-Ann Coffman
- Derrick Curry
- Velinda Desalus
- Jacob Elbaum
- Linda Sue Evans
- Loretta Sharon Fish
- Antoinette M. Frink
- David Goldstein
- Gerard A. Greenfield
- Bob F. Griffin, former Speaker of the Missouri House of Representatives, who was serving two years on bribery charges[3]
- Jodie E. Israel
- Kimberly Johnson
- Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
- Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
- Peter MacDonald - Navajo Chairman (sentence for 14 years in 1993 for fraud and racketeering convictions.)
- Kellie Ann Mann
- Peter Ninemire
- Hugh Ricardo Padmore
- Arnold Paul Prosperi Florida attorney, tax fraud. managed Clinton's 1967 campaign for student-council president.[2]
- Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice
- Pedro Miguel Riveiro
- Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money
- Susan Rosenberg
- Kalmen Stern
- Cory Stringfellow
- Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking
- Thomas Wilson Waddell III
- Harvey Weinig
- Kim Allen Willis
- Kemba Smith
- Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant
only if we win LETS HOPE
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lets describe you
You are the most intelligent man on the face of the earth. No one understands your amazing gifts. No one gets your subtle humor. And yet, here you sit, wasting your intellect on a bunch of young women. Maybe you need to grow up and seek out your own kind.
There is no need to ban them. If we do, lets add - see message
Lets add to the list Keith Olberman, Chris Matthews, Rachel Maddow, David Shuster, Wolf Blitzer, Anderson Cooper, Alan Colmes (you already said Hannity), Thom Hartmann, Joy Behr, and a whole slew of others who spew their hate.
I may think these above mentioned names are nothing but hate-spewing propaganda pushers, but others out their enjoy listening to them. There is no reason to ban any reporter/radio/talk show host. This is America and this is supposed to be land of the free, not "Land of lets only let liberals say what they want and shut down everyone else whom I don't agree with".
As for Michael Savage. He's great. He tells it like it is. He is neither a republican or democrat and has gone after both political parties. Also there is nothing wrong with O'Reilly. He has guests from both sides on, and actually lately I've been watching him and he is tending to lean more to the left, although he calls himself an independent. He is defending Obama on a lot of issues I don't agree with. But he's entitled to his opinion and I have mine.
I don't know what Savage did to have him banned from great brittain, but there is no reason to ban him or any other talk show/radio personality from the US. Especially when they are doing nothing to deserve being banned. They do that in socialist countries, and as fast as the current admin is trying to turn the US into a socialist country as far as I know we still have our freedoms of speech - as long as it isn't inciting hate and fear - in which I'm surprised Olberman, Cooper, Mathews, and Maddow have not been banned yet for.
yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
Yes, but lets just keep the facts straight. NM
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