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Yes they are and lazy to boot! That's why they're

Posted By: duped into voting for O on 2008-10-15
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They're too lazy to show patriotism......they're waiting
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Michelle's Boot Camp

http://www.publicallies.org/site/c.liKUL3PNLvF/b.2634379/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Allies


 


Boot straps with no boots
The US is a country where if you work hard enough you won't be homeless. And you have my permission to have Canada be the greatest country in the world for awhile, but it is not a lot of fun, so good luck with that.
OMG I forgot about boot camp
Your right - torture. I went through 2 months of sleep deprevation, exercising til I thought my body would fall apart, standing in lines for hours and hours while the drill sergeant stood yelling in my face with his bad breath I was a skumbag private, lower than dirt, get down and give me 20, etc, etc., Never mind if I didn't answer a question correctly. Then there was the obstacle course, repelling from an 80 foot tower, having to go into the gas chamber while they had gas going off, take off my gas mask and breath it in, then run outside to throw up. Marching 17 and 25 mile marches in the 112 degree heat, escape and evasion tactics, crawling under a barb wire fence on my stomach in mud pits while fires were being shot over our heads and keeping my weapon above the water (and lets not even mention what happened when people called it their gun and not weapon). Talk about humiliated. Or if we were caught sleeping during classes, etc, etc, etc.

Two months of that - yeah I'd sure call that torture. Am I glad I went through it? yes I am. Would I ever do it again? Heck no.
Michelle's Boot Camp for Radicals

Michelle's Boot Camps For Radicals


By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Thursday, September 04, 2008 4:20 PM PT


Election ང: Democrats' reintroduction of militant Michelle Obama in Denver was supposed to show her softer side. But it only highlighted a radical part of her resume: Public Allies.





IBD Series: The Audacity Of Socialism





Barack Obama was a founding member of the board of Public Allies in 1992, resigning before his wife became executive director of the Chicago chapter of Public Allies in 1993. Obama plans to use the nonprofit group, which he features on his campaign Web site, as the model for a national service corps. He calls his Orwellian program, "Universal Voluntary Public Service."


Big Brother had nothing on the Obamas. They plan to herd American youth into government-funded reeducation camps where they'll be brainwashed into thinking America is a racist, oppressive place in need of "social change."


The pitch Public Allies makes on its Web site doesn't seem all that radical. It promises to place young adults (18-30) in paid one-year "community leadership" positions with nonprofit or government agencies. They'll also be required to attend weekly training workshops and three retreats.


In exchange, they'll get a monthly stipend of up to $1,800, plus paid health and child care. They also get a post-service education award of $4,725 that can be used to pay off past student loans or fund future education.


But its real mission is to radicalize American youth and use them to bring about "social change" through threats, pressure, tension and confrontation — the tactics used by the father of community organizing, Saul "The Red" Alinsky.


"Our alumni are more than twice as likely as 18-34 year olds to . . . engage in protest activities," Public Allies boasts in a document found with its tax filings. It has already deployed an army of 2,200 community organizers like Obama to agitate for "justice" and "equality" in his hometown of Chicago and other U.S. cities, including Cincinnati, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, New York, Phoenix, Pittsburgh and Washington. "I get to practice being an activist," and get paid for it, gushed Cincinnati recruit Amy Vincent.


Public Allies promotes "diversity and inclusion," a program paper says. More than 70% of its recruits are "people of color." When they're not protesting, they're staffing AIDS clinics, handing out condoms, bailing criminals out of jail and helping illegal aliens and the homeless obtain food stamps and other welfare.


Public Allies brags that more than 80% of graduates have continued working in nonprofit or government jobs. It's training the "next generation of nonprofit leaders" — future "social entrepreneurs."


The Obamas discourage work in the private sector. "Don't go into corporate America," Michelle has exhorted youth. "Work for the community. Be social workers." Shun the "money culture," Barack added. "Individual salvation depends on collective salvation."


"If you commit to serving your community," he pledged in his Denver acceptance speech, "we will make sure you can afford a college education." So, go through government to go to college, and then go back into government.


Many of today's youth find the pitch attractive. "I may spend the rest of my life trying to create social movement," said Brian Coovert of the Cincinnati chapter. "There is always going to be work to do. Until we have a perfect country, I'll have a job."


Not all the recruits appreciate the PC indoctrination. "It was too touchy-feely," said Nelly Nieblas, 29, of the 2005 Los Angeles class. "It's a lot of talk about race, a lot of talk about sexism, a lot of talk about homophobia, talk about -isms and phobias."


One of those -isms is "heterosexism," which a Public Allies training seminar in Chicago describes as a negative byproduct of "capitalism, white supremacy, patriarchy and male-dominated privilege."


The government now funds about half of Public Allies' expenses through Clinton's AmeriCorps. Obama wants to fully fund it and expand it into a national program that some see costing $500 billion. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded" as the military, he said.


The gall of it: The Obamas want to create a boot camp for radicals who hate the military — and stick American taxpayers with the bill.



Obiously. Dumb and blind to boot.
need some substance here....white matter gymnastics, intelligence, logic, coherehnce, pertinence. Bye-bye, dead thread deadhead.
sorry, don't know, and I too am lazy
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Or too lazy to summarize?

Are you too lazy or just too stoooooopid to look for yourself?
John McCain plan revolves around:

WORKPLACE FLEXIBILTIY
RELIEF FOR FAMILIES
GOVERNMENT REFORM
SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESS
CHEAP AND CLEAN ENERGY
BETTER HEALTHCARE
SIMPLER AND FAIRER TAXES
and
LOWER BARRIERS TO TRADE

Here, go read up and educate yourself:

http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/jobsforamerica/

Oh, I forgot.

With Obama, you won't have to do anything for yourself. The 'rich white folk' will have to pay for everything so you all can have cheaper insurance. Great plan.

Do your OWN research, o lazy one.
Why is it that Dems refused to think for themselves?

Oh, wait, I know.

They all have KoolA.D.D.
Lazy Response
It's the ultimate lazy person's response to say its "the same old show" and they're all alike. They're most assuredly NOT all alike. But it's a real convenient thing to say for those who simply want to hang out on the sidelines and offer snide, uninformed commentary.
For all the lazy people out there.....
http://michellemalkin.cachefly.net/michellemalkin.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/hsa-rightwing-extremism-09-04-07.pdf
No, that is not true. I don't believe only lazy people ask for help (sm)
and I am not a republican. I always vote for whichever candidate I agree with the most. To be honest, this year I am not happy with either choice. I will just decide who is going to be the least destructive and vote for him. The reason I said that is that you said you care about his Harvard degree, but you don't even know what he studied. So how can you speak so boldly? At least I am on here asking questions, of which you have answered none, even though you certainly have a nice vocabulary.
Therein lies the problem........too lazy to
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Follow the link, oh lazy one.
You can see the Senate requistions for yourself. Barack's name is there there, along with the amount doled out, what the money is going toward, and WHO THE MONEY IS GOING TO. Doesn't take a braniac to copy and paste a recipient's name in and Google their relationship wtih Barack.

And I notice you didn't offer a link with any rebuttal informationl. Typical. "Ladies and gentlemen, I have 'investigated' this and the allegations are 'pure garbage.' What a joke. How much did YOU get from that corrupt dolt?

Sweep, sweep, sweep. The Dems shove ANOTHER Obama dirty little secret under the rug.
It's not a lazy response, it's the truth.
The change we need isn't necessarily in the president, it should go all the way down the government. We need change in Congress (which is the same old show), we need change in state politics, and we need change in how things go through this government (the stimulus bill is the perfect example - why so much garbage added on to something intended to help the American people?). This would bring about the change that's most needed and that's in the trust we as Americans put in our politicians, which lately has been at an all time low.
You are one of those lazy people who just doesn't
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That describes most of my town......I could add lazy
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Not 'spoiled & lazy' just prefer not to live in their

I'm not by any means calling anyone stupid or lazy. sm
My objection is the government taking money and then deciding who is "most worthy" to receive it. I help those in need - I give to charities and volunteer at the food lines. I know there are people around me that have less than I do and I do what I can to help. The wealthy in this country are paying higher taxes because they're in a higher tax bracket than the rest of us, but for the government to tell them that in addition to higher taxes, now they have to give more so the government can then dole it out to whomever they wish? Who decides who those needy are, how much are they going to get, and for how long? Welfare was only supposed to be a temporary help line and now you have generations of people still collecting. I'm not down on people trying to better themselves in whatever way they can - what I'm down on is creating a whole new generation of people who are dependant on the government for all thier needs.
Gitmo -- bringing this up top cause I'm just lazy and don't want to scroll.

Obama told George Stephanopoulos at ABC News:


 


"We are going to close Guantanamo and we are going to make sure that the procedures we set up are ones that abide by our Constitution."


 


I'm sorry, but those being held at Gitmo are not citizens of the United States; therefore, are not entitled to any protection under the Constitution.  Why not say 'abide by the Geneva Convention'?  Even then, how many of our POWs were treated as outlined in the Geneva Convention?  Let's not forget, this is a war and these terrorists are POWs.  President Bush sought to protect the citizens of this country whatever the cost.  After the awful events of 9/11, it was his priority.  The world needs to know if you target the U.S. there are consequences. 


 


And I want to know where they are going to put these 250 or so terrorists?  I live 50 miles from Fort Leavenworth and that's a little too close for comfort for me.  I assume some will be released to return to their country where, of course, they will plot their next terrorist attack.  While others will be housed in federal facilities like Leavenworth and then what?  We sit them down for tea and crumpets and ask them nicely if they plan on blowing anything else up here in America? 


 

How quickly Americans have forgotten the victims and families of 9/11!
You are one lazy person.....go talk to business
they'll be glad to "enlighten" you..... you are one of those I see on here regularly that run your mouth and condemn Bush but never do you EVER hold Obama responsible for ANYTHING. We all know why but that's beside the point, well, at least to some degree.

And before you jump on the republican thing again, I am not republican and did not vote for Bush. As well I definitely did not vote for Obama; I saw the writing on that wall early on. You are a poster who firmly believes in government taking care of you and yours and, therefore, you will NEVER have a problem with him. You are the type that will always play the blame game to Bush as will many of those kind that voted for Obama. Only those that voted for him out of fear will ever come forward and say they made a mistake, as MANY are doing right now, including many of my neighbors.

Small business owners have already talked to their accountants about what they will have to do once Obama institutes his so-called regulations, which are nothing more than tax hikes, masqueraded (too big a word for ya?) behind all his jibberish about "revenue" and "profit" on businesses, which they refuse to clarify as of yet.

Do you know the difference between revenue and profit? You really don't or you wouldn't be so quick to think small businesses would NOT go under, so IF you have family working right now for a small business OR even a hospital, they will more than likely lose their job.

You need to do your homework. All I heard during the election was "show me the facts", which we all did and when they were put forth, those like yourself just pushed them aside and continued to point fingers at Bush, as if Bush was making Obama's policies.

Well, let's see...so far Obama has lied about NO lobbyists, he WILL go line by line, NO pork, NO earmarks............pleeeze!

Amazing how you haven't called him on any of these things. Why is that? Don't bother, we all know the answer to that? You are sooo transparent?
Your kind live in a fantasy land....too lazy to even
Sorry to disappoint you but I am independent. I have sat and watched posters like yourself who have absolutely nothing to prove false any facts proven on this board.

You are a bunch of sad desperate people. People like you have given democrats a bad name and have pulled the democratic party in the mud.
Do you call seniors living on almost nothing lazy bums?
GW wanted to put social security in wall st? See what McCain wants to do? The same thing. You are miserable and borderline.
So true! Needy vs lazy. 2 different things! Sending
nm
Low class, hands out, gimme my share, I'm too lazy
to do it on my own crowd. The first ones to want it all given to them and the last ones who want to work for it. Of course they would boo the man in a wheelchair, never taught how to behave around respectable people.
Low class, hands out, gimme my share, I'm too lazy
to do it on my own crowd. The first ones to want it all given to them and the last ones who want to work for it. Of course they would boo the man in a wheelchair, never taught how to behave with respectable people.
You're entitled to your opinion. I guess it depends on what side of the spectrum you're on.nm
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We're not defending Bush we're pointing out the obvious
All you see in your view is Bush, Bush, Bush. Nobody else exists. You have yet to answer any of the questions I posed yesterday. We're not the one obsessing about Bush. I'm sure you'll counter that with I don't owe you any answers! It's really telling that for five or six days this board was mute about the Israel/Lebanon situation. You were too busy posting trash news about Bush like nothing was even happening, but I know that the left has wait for its talking points. You all cannot formulate opinions on your own. You have boilerplates ready to go though. *This is Bush's fault because _____________ but you have to wait on Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, etc. etc. to fill in the blanks for you. It's not just a phenomenon here but with all the left. You can count on at least two days of silence when something unforseen breaks out in the world, because they have to retreat to their bunkers to get their talking points straight, but it will always start with *This is Bush's fault because....
Hey, if they're smoking cigs, they're paying for SCHIP.
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So you're not racist but you're most definitely SEXIST and AGEIST!!!
"Someone more in our age group..."

"She should be taking care of her family."

Your true colors are showing, and they're truly ugly.
Just because they're LOSING doesn't mean they're VICTIMS.
What is it with people these days? You think that just because Hamas is getting its fanny handed to it that that magically makes them victims, and we should all weep and throw cash at them?

From the dawn of time, lesser civilizations have fallen to stronger ones.

It's why the human species survived and the neanderthals didn't.

It's why Rome conquered the Celts.

It's why the Barbarians conquered the Western Roman Empire.

It's why the British conquered the American Indians.

It's why the Spanish conquered the Aztecs.

It's why the Muslims conquered Israel the first time. But, since their societal progres seems to have permanently parked in the Stone Age, now Israel is conquering them right back.

Deal with it.
You're right. They're simply not worthy of a reply.

They're not tax breaks....they're tax credits
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I'm snotty, you're rude...we're even....
My dearrrr....not everyone in this country pays taxes. So you are wrong there. Obama said "spread the wealth." From his own mouth. The interview in Canada...economic parity and redistribution. Words from HIS mouth. If you believed those words from his mouth as much as you believed other words from his mouth, you would know he is a socialist. Selective memory is a wonderful thing ain't it??
You're right. They're all wack-jobs... nothing
so they try to make themselves feel important by standing around on street corners with their posters and their dollies.

Most of them are just buffoons, good for nothing other than being laughed at by the rest of us. But the ones that totally lose all reason, and go so far as to shoot people (in a church of all places...) is pretty off the deep end.
You're a liar. GT didn't curse. You're a filthy liar, but you are a gift from God.
God sent you here to as a constant reminder of the kind of person I DON'T want to be and if I ever have a bad day when I feel temporarily stupid, all I have to do is read your posts, and I realize there are those out there who are much worse off than I am and for them it's not temporary.
They're doing to this board what they're trying to do

to the whole country.  They're trying to take it over.  They want to control which God you believe in, who you love and what you do with your body, be it regarding life or regarding death.  If you don't voluntarily agree to turn your free will over to their control, they will hunt you down and nag you to death (since they can't do anything more violent on a message board).  It's obvious they are sick, sick people and need major help.


But they ARE like watching a car wreck and are sometimes hard to ignore.


I've thought about it, and for me personally, the very best thing to do is ignore them and for 2 reasons: 


1.  Ignoring them and not reading their posts makes my visit on this board much more pleasant.  I already know I'm not missing anything because there isn't one post on this entire board written by them that has contributed anything of value or intelligence.


2.  If we all refuse to read and respond to their posts, they might give up and go find another board to terrorize.  I doubt that, though, because they've taken over this board and simply don't have the CLASS to leave.  They take pride in their bully on the playground mentality and are proud of their ignorant behavior.  They will probably just continue to pat themselves on their backs on this board.  The only thing that might startle them and cause them to stop is that the NUMBER of posts on the Liberal board are starting to increase heavily as a direct result of their posting.  In the past, they've used the Liberal board's lower numbers to trash us for not being as interesting, when, in fact, the CON board must be pretty boring if they are always choosing to be HERE instead.


Like I said, I've decided that I'd like my visits here to be pleasant, so I'm just going to stop subjecting myself to their cesspools of attacks.  They've proven their posts aren't worth wasting time reading, so I'm just going to stop and will feel much better as a result of stopping.


Your not you're. I hope you're not an MT. nm
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They're children, though. They're not
adults.  Mom and Dad need to know these things even if only to possibly prevent problems later. 
You're welcome.

If I find anything, I'll be sure to post it, but I doubt he's going to be saying much.  I think he understandably wants to distance himself as far away from this administration as he can. 


I wish he would run for President.  I'd very proudly vote for him in a heartbeat!  I'd finally be able to vote for the best candidate instead of the least worst one. 


I agree with you, and I admire and respect him very much.


So I take it you're on your
so you don't mind your grandchildren paying their fair share, right?

Bush Tax Cuts = Tax Shifts
UFE Report: Tax Burden Shifting off Wealthy onto Everyone Else

$197 Billion in Tax Cuts to Top 1% of US Taxpayers as Big as States’ Budget Shortfalls of $200 Billion

BOSTON — A new report, entitled “Shifty Tax Cuts: How They Move the Tax Burden off the Rich and onto Everyone Else,” from United for a Fair Economy (UFE) indicates that between 2002 and 2004, the Bush tax cuts to the top 1% of US income earners redirected billions of dollars in revenue that could have eliminated virtually all of the budget shortfalls in the states.

“Congress had the option to send aid to the states to prevent $200 billion worth of service cuts and regressive tax increases,” said Chris Hartman, UFE’s research director. “Instead, they gave tax breaks totaling roughly the same amount to multi-millionaires and the rest of the top 1%.”

The report identifies five main areas of shifting tax burden:

FEDERAL TO STATE — a 15% shift in tax burden between 2000 and 2003

PROGRESSIVE TO REGRESSIVE — at the federal level, a 17% decline in the share of revenue from progressive taxes and a 135% increase in the share of revenue from regressive taxes since 1962

WEALTH TO WORK — A tax cut on unearned income — such as inheritance or investment — of between 31% and 79%, but a tax hike on work income of 25% since 1980

CORPORATIONS TO INDIVIDUALS — a 67% drop in the share of federal revenues contributed by corporations and a 17% rise in individuals’ share

CURRENT TAXPAYERS TO FUTURE GENERATIONS — record deficits that shift the tax burden to our children and grandchildren

“When President Bush and Congress trumpet, ‘Here’s a tax cut', we say, ‘Taxpayer beware!’ said Chuck Collins, United for a Fair Economy co-founder. “Unless you are super-rich, it’s a tax SHIFT, not a cut. Non-wealthy taxpayers will pay for these tax cuts with increased state and local taxes or cuts in public services.”

“Between 2002 and 2004, a full $197 billion in new tax breaks went to the top 1% of American taxpayers,” Hartman commented. “This is money that has disappeared into the pockets of the very wealthy, making it unavailable to solve ongoing budget crises at the state and local levels.”

“I got a rebate check last summer for $400,” said Collins. “Then my eight-year-old’s public school asked me to contribute money to replace worn-out chairs for the students. At the same time, I found out they laid off the librarian because of budget cuts. What good is a $400 tax cut when parents have to cough up additional money for chairs and books or else see their children go without?”

The report concludes that the total federal, state and local tax burden has become increasingly the responsibility of middle-and low-income families in recent decades, and that revenues being generated by taxes are not sufficient to pay for existing public services. Work in particular is being taxed at a higher rate than investment. “I do a lot of work in predominantly Latino areas of Boston,” said UFE Education Specialist Gloribell Mota. “Residents there are the working poor — they have jobs and pay taxes — yet are getting pennies in tax cuts and seeing health care services they depend on slashed.”

“The Bush administration has followed a strategy of starving public services by pulling tax money away from education and housing and giving it away to multi-millionaires,” said Karen Kraut, UFE’s State Tax Partnership director. “States are suffering as a result, and people are going without essential services in order to fund the lifestyles of the rich.”

The report calls for tax reforms to improve the fairness of tax distribution and ensure adequate revenues. Concerned Americans are urged to pass resolutions in their cities and towns to stop the tax cuts and restore local services that have been affected, to call and write their congressional representatives to take action to stop the cuts, and to sign the Tax Fairness Pledge at www.ResponsibleWealth.org/taxpledge.

The co-authors of the report are Chuck Collins, UFE Co-founder; Chris Hartman, UFE Research Director; Karen Kraut, Director of UFE’s State Tax Partnerships; and Gloribell Mota, UFE Education Specialist.

United for a Fair Economy is an independent national non-profit that raises awareness of growing economic inequality.

You're not getting it
if the Attorney POCKETS most of the winnings how are they any better than the greedy corporations?  Since you think one is more morally ethical than the other eventhough they may both be doing THE SAME EXACT THING....then the debate has ended as far as I'm concerned.
I never said don't come over there, you're the one
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You're welcome.
Have a great day.
You're welcome.
I didn't know it existed, either, but I think it's a really great site and wanted to pass it on.  Some of these guys have said they're afraid to speak the truth and feel they're taking a chance by doing so.   
You're welcome, gt.

You're welcome and you're right.

You're right.

It's clear the ONLY people who have true freedom of speech and freedom of thought in this country are Bush disciples.  In addition, they have the freedom to lie to the rest of America.


Don't despair.  It won't be long before a Pat Robertsonesque appointee thug of Bush will be seizing my computer, bugging my phone and knocking at my door, ready to lock me up simply because I express my distaste for a President who is incapable of telling the truth to ANYONE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, as he wraps himself in the Holy Bible and American Flag.  His enemies aren't *terrorists.*  If they were, I wouldn't be able to get on a plane now with a knife again.


His enemies are Americans who have the audacity to pay attention, think freely and voice their opinions.


My freedom of speech, free thought, expression, religion, ETC. is about to come to a screeching halt very soon.


You'd better hope you continue to obey the master, remain in step and NEVER stray from the flock.  Otherwise, the next freedom-ending screech I hear could be YOURS.


Yes, you're right; I'm sure
their eye on me as well! What I find most pitiful is YOUR lack of outrage. Too much Kool-Aid, I guess. What will it take before you see what **King George** has done and continues to do to this country?
Huh? You're not going to believe this.
Or maybe you will...but for me it falls into the category of WHAT THE???????!!!!!!!!


Labored logic

Democrats have been buzzing about comments made by state Sen. Nancy Schaefer (R-Turnerville) at a recent eggs-and-issues breakfast in Hart County. We quote from the Hartwell Sun newspaper: Commenting on illegal immigration, Schaefer said 50 million abortions have been performed in this country, causing a shortage of cheap American labor. 'We could have used those people,' she said.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/insider/stories/030606.html