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You asked me to point to a thread where she debated someone.

Posted By: Jackie on 2005-09-18
In Reply to: I'm not MT and I haved not bashed - Reality check

I did that, yet you completely ignored it.  As to whether or not you're MT..who knows?  You just might be.  As far as my other comments, they arise from your actions, and I didn't ask if you were gay, I asked if you were a closet gay which is totally different from being gay. Closet gays are hypocritical and dangerous and frightening.  They publicly thump their Bibles and condemn gays as terrible sinners, would condone killing them yet they themselves are privately gay. Sorry but that's what your nonstop stalking of GT reminds me of.  If you didn't act that way I wouldn't be thinking it.


 




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That is my point, WE don't get asked to
handed a pay cut and told it is a 'good thing.' You don't get a chance to be willing to take a pay cut.
You've never debated

you've just slammed Bush and anyone who likes Bush.  Point to one thread where you've debated someone like an adult without resorting to the worlds idiots puke and other assorted adjectives up to and including curses words to slam Bush and people who like him?


 


I've been hearing from people she debated against that

She's a real tiger and I'm watching it and hoping that is true. We shall see.


yes, I asked you...but I asked you a specific question...
about the peace movement. I asked why you did not take your ideals to the real enemies of peace...and your answer was that you leave them to God but will instead preach to us not to fight them, even when they bring the fight to us. So be it.

We will agree to disagree.

I did not personally call you a whiner. As to who sent the military...I will say one thing. When you join the military, you take an oath. That oath has been posted here. You are under no illusions. You know that you may be called to war. It is an all voluntary army over there now. There is no draft. No one is over there because they were forced to go.

As to the people sending having never been...what has that got to do with anything?It was not just George Bush and Dick Cheney, Lurker. It was Congress. Many in Congress do have relatives, even sons and daughters, in Iraq. Have you read the resolution? It is very clear. They knew exactly what they were signing and exactly what it meant. I do not buy the lied to hooey. The Senate and House intelligence committees got the same briefings, or at least enough briefings to vote for the resolution. If they did not (in their own words) use due diligence before signing off on that resolution, whose fault is that? Certainly not Dick Cheney's or George Bush's.

Where were all these people when Clinton was calling for regime change? Because he was a Democrat they will follow him to war? You will see why I do not buy into their rhetoric.

And while I understand your big picture, as I have said over and over and you have never addressed, that will work only if the others in the big picture wish it to work. And if you honestly feel that God wishes that you lay down and let this country be overrun by terrorists, then so be it. I am not of the same mind.

The big difference is that I believe, as did Americans at the time of the Revolution, and that Americans did at the time of the Civil War...and that even some Americans did at the time of Viet Nam...some things are worth dying for. Most of our volunteer military feels the same.

When that is no longer the case, if you are successful in robbing that sense of patriotism from the generations to come without changing the minds of the enemies, where they feel that nothing is worth dying for...in my mind that will only bring death quicker, not keep it at bay, and the loss of the greatest nation on the face of this earth.

So, we agree to disagree.

God bless.
Every thread of yours
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New thread above.
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And, that has what exactly to do with this thread?? SM
BTW it's Western KY University. There is no Southern KY University.
The thread was that someone said he never...
talked about religion. I pointed out that he DOES.
actually this thread is about...
whether the members of military support the effort or not. you turned into something about info available when you claimed that you have more info and a more clear picture than they do and that they are "just following orders" And you are the one who didn't agree with the sentiment of the original post and started the "i don't like people who disagree with me," not dnh, when you started saying you had a clearer picture than they. You are simply out to argue and stir the pot. Not worth the effort to debate with you.
And no actually, if you follow the thread SM
I was posting to American Woman.
I read this whole thread here. sm
MT was very careful to say it was not word for word. Gosh, all the calling people liars.  It's terrible.  She said it wasn't word for word more than once.  How about recalled incorrectly?  Liar is a horrible word and I have been called it so many times on these boards for no good reason.  Anyway, as I said, I am mixed race and I am not offended.  That's all I am going to say because there is no use posting here.  Flame away gt.  Call me a liar yet again.  I really don't care and as Republican said, you don't scare me.  I think you are sad and pathetic and I think your life must be very empty to be as hate filled as you are. 
This whole thread is stupid!

MT did not say she was going back to Iraq...she was answering a poll!!!!  Where's the lie?


The subject in this thread is a cat.
How did we get to this?  And is it really necessary to call names?  I mean, we are civilized people after all. It's rather hard to understand why you attack someone even when they are AGREEING with you.  I try to be respectful here, but it's very hard to communicate when the subject is changed constantly in a thread.  Perhaps an I hate Bush and all conservative thread would be best started and all posts to that effect might go there.  Nothing is being furthered here except what seems to be a very bad grudge.  In a public forum.  Really not cool. 
Your 1st post in this thread had NOTHING to do
pardon me for being a bit puzzled about why you brought it up.
Dead thread.
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The only bash under this thread is
Just can't resist slamming a different perspective, can you? Not even one time is this possible.
awww, don't want to go there so this thread
has ended?  "Case closed" I guess.
Have you not read this thread?

Simply stating Christian beliefs.  This country, although based on religious freedoms, was founded by Christians.  In God We Trust ring a bell?


I'm sorry, it's not me. Wrong thread?
???
let this thread die. The stupidity
of it speaks louder than any response trying to explain things because they don't "understand"   They want to keep the subject off the issues. 
Sorry, got tripped up in the thread... the ol'

Evidently you are not following your own thread
The rational people are the Obama folks who will not engage in the foolishness of the conspiracy theory to nowhere and the brick wall...well, that would be you, "Everyone should be interested!"
I might have missed that thread but I...
didn't miss the thread of negativity in your posts.
If you are not able to follow my thread,
at least try to follow your own. I was replying to your right-from-wrong post where, in an attempt to avoid the points I had made about Israel, you stated I had listed all of Palestinian atrocities. My reply followed consecutive order.

The first item on the list you were trying to attribute to them began with occupation. Since you made the blanket, all-encompassing statement that I had just listed ALL of their atrocities, I began my reply with occupation and followed point-by-point with responses to the other listed items. You would probably have a vague understanding of that if you actually engaged in debating substance rather than simple vollies of empty, vacuous put-downs and denials.
He sure does have a relevance to this thread
Because your comment was same sex people can't ever have sexual intercourse. The relevance is that Bill Clinton came out on national TV and told the world "I did not have sexual intercourse with that woman...Ms. Lewinski?" Both are bold face lies.

Two woman are perfectly capable of having a sexual relationship as are two men. And that is why we have sperm donors and other means to allow woman the capability of having a child without having sex with a man. Maybe if you got out of the "puritan" mind set you might just even have a little fun. But somehow I doubt that. Reminds me of my aunt telling me that sex is only for pro-creation. Once you don't want to have kids anymore then you shouldn't be having sex anymore. Is this you aunty???????
Maybe you could begin in another thread.

Day of Prayer and the absolute vicious lies about Obama's faith.


Just because you believe he lied about other things does not automatically make him a Muslim.


Patty, just get off this particular thread.

It is very obvious that you are a minority here and you're just trying to stir the pot, as you always do.  Nobody wants to hear your bigoted idiotic statements about something you know nothing about, so just keep handling your snakes and leave everybody else's sex life alone.  It is none of your business!!


I think BB has a point here in that the main point on the board is political discussion, and let'
face it, there is SO MUCH going on right now, changes, problems, disasters, and so much debate on what should/could be done, but so many tims the political discussion disintegrates in a finger-pointing, name-calling exercise, spouting religion all over the place. Yeah, our spiritual beliefs are dearly held and we would all strive to be the best we can be, and do whatever we can whatever the ideology is, but sometimes I wonder, since we have a board EXPRESSLY for Faith isuues, where relgious debates/discussions/forums, etc are welcome, why does THIS board have to be turned into RELIGION BOARD PART II, especially if one ideology wants to dominate or ridicule/condemn those who come on here for lively inteligent discussion, debate of issues in Congress and in our lives, and just want their beliefs held separately? CNN is not EWTN or any other Christian network, and there are constant informative, bright, lively, balanced discussions from all over the political spectrum on the credentialed news stations, as well as C-Span, but they are not constantly hiding behind a cross, rosary, bible, star of David, or whatever....can we not strive to do the same and put religious debate on the Faith board?? Just a thought to ponder, MHO, it might work beter, who knows?
After reading all the posts in this thread,

You definitely won, hands down, no contest because you speak the truth.


(Don't ya just love the word "insufferable?"  I think it's used mostly by those "tater" people when they start sputterin' and spoutin' and spittin'!)


Thank you Dem for adding some saneness to this thread.

While I agree that Bill C. caught flack you have to remember it was for things he lied about and then was proven to have done such as getting a BJ in the chambers of the oval office and then committing the documented crime of perjury by lying about it.   If it is solidly proven by investigation that GWB has lied to the country under oath I will raise my white flag and cry uncle, and then all this hatred and uproar will be just.  The far left, and I include GT in that group, has gone off the deep end with all this unsubstantiated speculation about this war and GWB.   I do not believe Cindy Sheehan is truly honoring the memory of her son by doing what she's done.  While she has every right to do it does not mean it is the correct interpretation about how the majority of this country feels nor is it what her son wanted his legacy to be.  From the statements of Casey Sheehan his thoughts about this war were entirely different from his Mom's and in large part of the rest of the Sheehan family. 


What's missing here is your understanding of this thread....
it is about infants born alive after botched abortions and left to die without care. Partial birth abortion is when they turn the baby around in the womb, let all but the head be born, then stick a needle in base of skull and suck the brain out to collapse the skull and make sure the baby is dead before it comes out, to avoid that pesky being born alive thing that proabortion people so hate.

At least get your facts straight and know what you are denying before you deny it.

And yes, he does support partial birth abortion. He supports removing the ban on that heinous procedure. His wife sent out a campaign letter while he was running for senate in Illinois that said that very thing.

Sheesh.
This whole thread is a vast wasteland of
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I'm taking my response to a new thread
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This thread is worthwhile for grown ups.
No way, no how can you lay the abysmal Bush/republican response to Katrina at the feet of the DNC, Obama, Biden, Hillary, Bill or the Hope Train, so the best you can do is make a childish joke and dismiss it? You really ae just as cold blooded as your leaders.

Imagine this. It's Monday night, and the opening speaker of the RNC takes his place behind the podium. He is the very same guy that McCain is desperately trying to distance himself from. The media is trying to cover the event AND a category 3, 4 or 5 hurricane, as it makes landfall just west of New Orleans, placing it on the dirty side of the storm.

What will the media do? Perhaps the best they can….they cover the speech and split the screen with streaming video and scenes of the levies bursting at the seams or the FEMA trailers being smashed to smitherines as huge chunks of metal siding are being blown around like sheets of paper, slamming into buildings, trees being uprooted, and cars disappearing under flood waters raging through streets/canals of the city.

Meanwhile, GW is preaching to the choir and singing the praises of the party as he promotes the candidacy of the RNC's best pick. It will not be that easy for the TV viewing audience to block out the image of Bush and McCain eating cake last time around while New Orleans drowns again. So this beg the question….what sort of damage control do you think they can pull out of their magic hats to make it go away?
What a retarded thread...get a life
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Then start a thread. No one is stopping you.
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Exactly, that is the common thread in Democratic...
party these days. And the only way to end that stalemate in Waashington is for that, for lack of a better word...crap to stop. McCain and Palin are reaching across the aisle, saying they are willing to work with democrats to stop the stalemate...country first. McCain says he wants Democrats and Independents in his cabinet. Country first. This election is a no-brainer for this Independent. McCain/Palin.
Maybe not, but I did not start that part of the thread....
was just replying to it. Sorrreeeee.
I think you responded to the wrong thread.

Best post of the thread, Kaydie. nm

Is someone in this thread related to Senator

  Is that his nick name for McCain supporters?  Hey how about McCain sell a few of those houses and give it to the financial companies????  How about the rich do something for a change????  How about that???? 


This makes me sick, all of it!  We need to be addressed by these candidates and not set aside until oil companies and rich folks figure out what happened!!!!  We are looking at who is going to be our next President and all Bush cares about are his pockets being lined?  Poor thing; did he invest in the wrong stock??? 


I must be really whacked, but I feel this candidacy is waaaaay more important than IGA, IGM, Wash Mut, Bank of America, Lehman, Looman, Dooman, or dooofus, whatever!!!!!  These lenders loaned the money to people who they knew couldn't pay it back and now it has come back to bite them and now its the rest of us having to bail them out.  No sympathy here!  I stayed within my budget; so sorry others did not!!!!!!!!  These candidates are going to run this country.  I think Obama is right; let's get it on with the debates....   JMO... 


have you read the rest of the thread?
Before you start firing off, maybe you should read the thread. In a lot of areas in the US, the wait for access to healthcare is a lot more than 6 weeks.

Also, a lot of folks in the US don't have any kind of insurance, so they would wait a lifetime for a CT.
That was a truly lame comeback to this thread.
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Read the thread. It's about a local -
New York's not exactly a swing state.

Not with all the ghetto crack addicts and abortion-loving welfare moms.

Dems all the way, baby!
The facts were given in the links above in the thread nm
really now
Can you not recognize a dead thread
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Try to follow the thread. OP said he/she was bored....
and felt compelled to post that he/she was bored. I merely said it was boring to read posts about people complaining that they are bored. If you are bored by my posts, don't read them. Simple fix.
How many thread do you need to dominate tonight?
You could post your question down under your newly brought up to the top post and while you are at it, you might consider answering the questions I have been posing to you since lunch time. Otherwise, do you mind if I solicit opinions on this progressive tax table from posters other than yourself?
Sorry Shelly, but the common thread
parental responsibility versus government interference. You folks can't have it both ways. I have no problem, big or otherwise, understanding these concepts, but you, on the other hand, need to take off those blinders. Government interference in responsible parenting applies to both situations in exactly the same context, that being one of expecting laws to act as the eyes, ears and voices of reason for parents on behalf of their children.

What's that you say? Parents don't have time to be with their children while in the library? Huh? If they don't, what makes you think the government sould be held responsible for this?

I'm not interested in straw issues. Rather, I want to see the constitutional ban on government censorship enforced with clenched teeth while parents stop whining and expecting government to do their jobs for them. Government censorship is a steep and slippery slope. I can't think of ANYTHING that poses more of a threat to our democracy than that and am happy to see a deputy AG nominee who understands that.
i call stupid on this whole thread.
Does no one understand that this big stimulus plan comes with massive *tax cuts*? Two hundred eighty-eight billion dollars worth of them? (That's $288,000,000,000)

Follow my logic here: The plan cuts your taxes. So it's just not right to take the cost of the bill, divvy up amongst all the taxpayers, and say, aha, here's how much it raised my taxes--the overwhelming burden of the cost is because it's taking the burden off the taxpayer.

Now, we can debate whether this is the right way to go (it isn't--again, tax cuts aren't terribly effective). But to portray a tax cut as a tax increase is just...well, did I use the word "stupid" too many times already?

(Please note I'm not calling *you* stupid, just the website calculator and the trillions of well-paid pundits and congresspeople who insist that a tax cut is a tax increase, to attempt to resuscitate their dying agenda.)

This thread is about bailing out illegals,
but I don't agree with bailing out the banks and CEOs either.