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I apologize for coming off rude

Posted By: sm on 2007-06-16
In Reply to: please don't be rude - Luke S.

That was not my intention.

You just said you are just starting out - wait until you both are more established before jumping into something so final. When you both are making more money, then $2700 a month might be doable with all of the other expenses that everyone has.

Seriously, sit down with a piece of paper and a calculator and add it all up including whatever you spend on gas, groceries, car payments, credit cards. Then think about how much your utilities will be at this new house. Unless you have a TON of money saved up or you are getting help from an outside source such as family, there is no way that you can pay $2700 a month just for your house payment with the income you have right now.

You have plenty of time to get into the "perfect" house but do not ruin your finances/credit to do it too early.

You could always move to Georgia - you could afford an awesome house for half of that price here!!!!! And gas and everything else is cheaper! :-) Good luck with everything - just be smart about it, please!!!! Use your head not your heart when making these kind of decisions.


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you may not be bitter, angry, or uptight, but you are RUDE rude rude!
You talk about being attacked when you are the one calling names... yes someone called you Doctor to start with, which was pretty childish, but they were saying so because you acted so matter-of-factly about diagnosing someone saying they were just having vivid dreams, and then going off on a tangent about their Xanax use...

Xanax affects EVERYONE differently so just because your husband is a certain way does not mean that is the same for this person. I take Xanax to fly... guess what it is a LIFE SAVER! I never take it to sleep nor do I ever take it for anything else...

maybe you are being rude because you are reacting, but my guess is you will have a response to me pointing this out... and it might be rude. just a guess.
Rude people deserve a rude response-but an idea (sm)
I am very kind-hearted, and even a sucker at times but when someone is very rude and disgusting, I have no problem telling them to go away.  If she doesn't want to completely cut this woman out of her life, she needs to say something like, "I have decided that I am only going to be able to have you come over on Wednesdays."  She can make up an excuse like, "I am not getting enough time to myself" "I haven't had time for my other friends" or just act like she feels like she desperately needs a regular schedule, so "Wednesday is your day."  See ya next week!  If she shows up on a day that is not her day she can say, "Suzie Q, your day is Wednsday - I'm sorry, but I am really determined to stick to my schedule"
I truly apologize, too.
Good Lord, I am actually crying now. This is going too far. I am so very sorry for sounding mean to you. I regreted saying that don't you accuse me thing after I submitted the post. You are a good person to come back with you note. Let's be friends. Life is too short. Thanks again, and I am so sorry if I hurt or offended you or anyone by that.
Hey, no need to apologize to me!

It's totally cool if you don't agree with something I said!  You asked for other's opinions and that was mine--that maybe he just is concerned for your health.  However, if it's a control issue, that whole alpha male "I'm the one with a penis and it's your job to produce my children and be my trophy wife" BS, then I'd be looking for an out too.  That's mental abuse.  Marriage is about being a team and being supportive when the other is down and out.  If you've tried the counseling thing and you know he's being insincere, what is going on is totally unhealthy and life it too darned short for that, I agree. 


Yes, I think she needs to apologize
for giving the answer she did above talking about a wonderful mother when in actuality the person is an enabler of people getting over on her.
don't apologize
I DON'T think you were wrong to send the e-mail (don't be surprised to discover that it all went over their heads, though). You did what any normal person would do & probably waited a good long time to do it. Even if someone convinces you that you were wrong to send it, that "wrong-ness" is NOTHING in comparison to your huz' family's behavior, & if you start apologizing for the e-mail you will totally dilute the effect & allow them to pounce all over your letter & play up their resulting hurt feelings without taking responsibility for how they have treated your husband. I say Let it stand & be glad you stood up for Huz. Don't let guilt get in the way. They are the ones who should be apologizing to YOU.
Don't apologize

Never apologize for your feelings.  They are YOUR feelings and they are valid.  Your FIL and his wife will find a way to gloss this over and of course their friends will believe them.  I think you rock for doing what you did.  That took cojones - even if they were angry cojones. 


Unfortunately, I have found that there are a lot of people like this who claim to be Christians.  They give the rest of us a bad name, IMO.  I worked at a church for a number of years and it left a very bad taste in my mouth for most organized religion.


As to your husband's situation, there are no words to express what you're going through.  Maybe your husband needs to know - when he's a little stronger - that Dad knows and did nothing.  Maybe that would help him with the final break from his family that he needs and set him on the path to building his own life.   You need to tell his therapist and let his therapist guide you in making that determination.


I personally would be inclined to terminate all contact with his father.  Sounds like your kids won't necessarily miss him and your husband may be healthier for it in the long run.


Good luck.  If you yourself are not already seeing a counselor, I would recommend it highly.  Your husband is going to be in long-term treatment as an outpatient and it would certainly help you as well.


Don't ever apologize for something you enjoy!

It's a huge part of your life and there's nothing wrong with that!  We have the most wonderful neighbors who are crazy Catholic...I mean they wear rosaries bracelets, have multiple Catholic-esque bumper stickers, and they carry bibles the way most people carry a PDA.  However, they are the most genuine, sweet, and fun people I have met on my little street here.  I love having them over just to shoot the chit, share a bottle of wine, and love hearing them talk about their religion, which is a HUGE part of their lives.  They are happy, friendly, and they love life and that's what counts.  They know I am what I am (atheist) and while I know they say they pray for me, they don't make me feel at all uncomfortable and I think they honestly enjoy my warped view of the world.  Gives them some perspective of what else is walkin' around out there ;-) 


Nice people are nice people, no matter what their (or lack thereof) religious convictions may be.


So I will apologize to both posters
the one who called me looney and the other who called me juvenile. Sorry if I offended you both...I find this board to be both a comfort and a place I can vent and hopefully help those who ask for advice or help with terminology. I don't want to come off as rude...I was just feeling a little hurt, as I would never call someone here a negative name, as I feel we are commrades...Hope that makes sense....I will shut up now and let this go...Just feeling sad that my good intentions turned sour. No hard feelings? None here.
of course they will, but she said her grandmother did apologize.
I just hope for some forgiveness, as well.
I apologize to both for the miscommunication. sm
One of the things you always must allow in this electronic medium for is that I might miscommunicate my meaning...or that you will misconstrue it.
And I truly apologize for that post.
Completely out of character for me. I don't talk good my ownself, truth be told. Since I'm way too old for PMS, I have no idea why I felt so cranky and aggravated, so please accept my amends. I've seen worse, but that's no excuse for insulting another person, even if it was meant to be a joke. I truly believed it was a put-on, just to pull legs. :(
And I truly apologize for that post.
Completely out of character for me. I don't talk good my ownself, truth be told. Since I'm way too old for PMS, I have no idea why I felt so cranky and aggravated, so please accept my amends. I've seen worse, but that's no excuse for insulting another person, even if it was meant to be a joke. I truly believed it was a put-on, just to pull legs. :(
I truly apologize for this Octomom question
I consider myself intelligent, really, and maybe I'm a dolt, but I have one really simple question:  How do you get eight babies from six implanted embryos?  twins?  I'm confused.  Is is just me?
yes, but I did apologize for being the spelling police.


I apologize. I was generalizing and I don't mean to insult Catholics as a whole.

It is my understanding there is a Vatican I and a Vatican II and that one is ultra-conservative and traditional and the other has sort of a more liberal (for lack of a better word) approach.  So I am sure that not all Catholic churches and all priests are like this one priest.


Also I apologize for the homosexual/molestation remarks I made in my original post.  That was uncalled for and was a terrible thing to say.  Not all priests should be categorized that way.  I was angry with this one priest and obviously didn't have a stronghold on my anger when I first posted.


Thanks for your responses and for not being offended.  It would have been very easy to tear into me for my generalizations.


I have one more question.  My son-in-law to be said something about if he and my daughter were to be married by a justice of the peace, they could still get married in the Catholic in the future should my daughter convert, but if they were to marry in any other church by any other man of God, there marriage would never be recognized in the Catholic church nor could they ever get married (again to each other) in the Catholic church.  Is this true?


This is all just too legalistic for me. 


A apologize. I need to emphasize. I quit watching moral filth about 3 years ago. sm
I still love the food network, PBS, and DWTS but not anymore. I refuse to see R rated movies. Filth in, filth out.
Are you sure no one is coming by every day (sm)
to give her food and water and at least a little attention?
I can see where you are coming from
Oh I don't know, just heard they was giving out free food!  Go figure....  How did she hear that with no power?
Please, if you will tell me exactly where these are coming
from. I have read a few places but I want to know exactly what you are speaking of.
So if the end is coming

I've been hearing this crap all my life due to a religious upbringing.  Oooh, we'll be persecuted and have to go live in caves during the end times.  I'm over it!


The only thing one can do is get right with God the best they can.  And that's between them and their deity.


If the planet shifts on its axis, the sun sends out a flair, or any other global disaster, there is no way to prepare for it, physically, mentally, etc.  You'll either be in the right place/time or not.  You'll either die, or not.  Whatever unpredictable circumstance you're in, you'll do the best you can.


And if nothing unusual happens at all on winter soltice 2012, it will still be a matter of surviving whatever socioeconomic mess we are in at that time.


Live your life one day at a time, that's all you can be sure of.  Don't worry about tomorrow because God is already there.  Why go nuts like we did preparing for 2000?  I refuse to stress on it, I did enough time doing that when I was a child having religious propaganda shoved down my throat.  I did more stressing during the 2000 non-crisis because my boss was paranoid and put ME in charge of safeguarding all our electronic medical records from the big crash that never happened.  This time, I don't give a hoot, and I'm not doing anything any different than I would any other day of the year.  Tell your loved ones you love them and go the heck to bed!


its all coming to an end sm

What did you think about last night's performances , who is the winner.


I liked Kris better.   Adam killed Kara's song.   I also think when the judges talked to Kris after his last song it felt like they were saying goodbye to him and saying he did not have a chance to win.  I hope Kris wins to prove them all wrong.  I would have loved to see Allison be in first or second place. 


My DH keeps coming in to inform me that...
he has today off, paid no less, for his birthday.  One more time and I am going to hit him upside the head with the gnome! 
What is this world coming to?

The clue for your caller would have been when you said "hello"?  Don't ya' think? 


Anyone get HBO? Even the coming attractions from

But I understand where they are coming from
because usually self-employed is an iffy thing and the bottom line is where you apply for credit wants to know with some certainty about will you be able to handle a mortgage. I am independent myself but since starting did not ever think about this coming up, of course do not plan on relocating or buying another home (only been in my new home for 3 years now) but being independent never crossed my mind about things like this.
Furniture coming up now
what I want to know, will your groomers put these nails on for you? Also am planning on the wood post and getting a spray bottle. Wish me luck!
I sort of know where you are coming from
with the prices of houses by me. Most people probably don't realize that 400,000 in some areas does not get you much and you probably can't find a 3 bedroom decent house for under 350,000. I think people are getting the wrong impression and thinking you want to live way beyond your means when in reality you just want a decent place to live. As I said, I'm in the same boat and it stinks. Just be careful; sounds like way too much debt to be comfortable with your current situation. Have you thought about moving somewhere cheaper? I am sure your wife can find a job as a nurse anywhere, maybe making even more money; also if she is an RN they can work just weekends and make a full time income. For you, you can always work at home doing MT full time and part time with 2 companies putting in 50 or so hrs a week for now. You'd save on any kind of childcare that way at least while the baby is an infant. But then you may have to put off school. Unfortunately this is what happens. We can't have it all as much as we'd all like to. Sounds like at least you do have a few options, though, the way I see it; so good luck whatever you choose to do.
I totally get where you are coming from
and I don't know anything about your situation, but it seems like it would be a good thing that he looked on his stepdaughter as his daughter, although I can see how you would feel the way you feel since your brother was her father and it wasn't his choice not to raise her, and somebody should have acknowledged him as well.

I was adopted and to me my parents are the parents who raised me- because to me that is what makes a parent a parent. Had I been referred to growing up as my parents' "adopted daughter" that would have been painful to me and only a constant reminder that I was not their biological child.

Again, I don't know anything about your situation or your niece's relationship with her stepfather but if it was a good one I would think it would be nice that he thought of her as his actual daughter. He probably had just not been thinking about how it would make you feel.
How are you coming along with it now Hayseed? nm
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Weekend coming. What is everyone doing?
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I do understand where you are coming from
My MIL is a very big part of our lives and is very close wtih my son and daughter. That is all well and good but for years she would ask the kids if they wanted to go somewhere with her (like a day trip to a nursery or shopping without asking me first. If I said no we already have plans then I was the mean mommy. It took me several years to finally get through to her that I would really like for her to check with me first. She did this again last Sunday asking my son to go to a nursery with her that is about an 1 1/2 hours away. He is now 16 and I know we didn't have plans for that afternoon so I overlooked it. Be glad that she lives 80 miles away. Mine lives 8 miles. We used to live in the house right behind the family business that she had my DH run. She called one day saying she was going to town and did I need anything. Yes, a gallon of milk. Oh, I'm not going to the grocery store, just the post office and bank. I guess if I had needed stamps or a roll of pennies she could have helped me out. LOL. Just take a deep breath, smile through gritted teeth, and be thankful she wants to be a part of her grandchilden's lives.
My sympathies for what is coming...sm
I know the look you are talking about. It breaks your heart. I lost my dog a few years back. He was the first present my husband ever gave me and I had him for 15 1/2 years. We have other pets, but nothing takes the place of him. My best to you and your kitty friend. Take Care.
coming up soon, next week I think...
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Coming to? I think we're beyond that.
This is mild what he did compared to what else goes on. Where've you been?
Can't you see it all coming to pass? sm
Everything we learned would happen is happening right now.
Are they coming through your screens?
If so, a friend of mine told me to spray my screens with bug spray.  Of course, I misunderstood her the first time and sprayed mine with hairspray -- big no-no!  I had bugs galore trying to beat down my screen to get in.  But anyway, if you have screens, trying spraying them with bug spray.
My boy is FINALLY coming around . . .
The last year or so he has been quite obnoxious and I was thinking what happened to my compassionate young man? Now he is 12-1/2 years old and the smart-alec is disappearing, or at least he doesn't rear his ugly head much these days. It's just so different with boys that I am not sure how to handle it. I could help my daughter, because I knew what she went through, but my boy . . . that's a different story!!! He has been kinder, his voice has dropped, he is breaking out, oh yea, hormones are kicking in. I think boys don't get emotional like girls though, they get mouthy and aggressive. There's your difference. IMO
do you know where the fish is coming
from? Kind of scary after watching some consumer reports. The state of Alabama is one of the few to have a fish inspector and he will not order fish in a restaurant in his own state! You don't even want to see where they catch fish in China or what they are fishing in. That is being sent over here. Good luck.
I think I understand where you are coming from
but please know that I am not some sort of angry person that "bans" MIL from seeing our child. These issues have gone on for about 7 years and we have tried to be logical and kind to her but she just doesn't get the message. I don't think its her place to talk about s*x with or around my child, nor do I think it is her place to talk about Santa in front of him, as he still believes. It is a shame that some feel they have to protect a child from a grandparent but hey, you can't always trust your family. It's sad. You do, however, have to protect your child and their innocence - that's your job as a parent. My child still has contact with his granparents, it is just limited and in a long distance situation, many kids do not see their grandparents but once a year so I don't see this being detrimental to the relationship to prove a point that otherwise goes unnoticed. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, as you said, IMHO, and I don't want anyone to get the idea that I was endorsing cutting all ties.
About the coming change to all...

If there's anyone left on the planet (well, maybe it's just this country) who doesn't know this, and isn't sick and tired of hearing about it, seeing TV spots about it, etc. It's been going on for what, almost a year? It started before Feb 2008 because some got the idea THAT was when it was going to change, but it was 2009- over a year away.


I haven't paid much attention to it, after hearing that if you have cable or satellite you don't have to do anything, that takes care of it, but was noticing recently, one of our TV channels has (at times) a marquee running along the top of the picture, telling about it. At first I thought it was some breaking news like WW3 or the troops coming home from Iraq, but no, it was the same stuff about the change to digital and SOME TVs won't work (but some channels will still be in no digital, maybe the PBS ones can be?) 


Thinking it was some big news story, I read it, and I don't know if it's been saying this all along but, along with saying you won't get (or might NOT get) good or any TV when it changes, unless you get a converter box, it also says YOU CAN USE A VCR OR DVD (as a convertor)!


Not a lot of people don't have a VCR or DVD player and if not, you can get a cheap one for $39.99 or so.


So, you can hook up your antenna to the VCR or DVD player and that "converts" it to the digital the TV needs, and you also get the VCR and DVD player (if you don't already have one)? So, why haven't they said this before? Or, if they have it wasn't stressed.


People can get coupons to buy a converter box, more wires and things to hook up, when they can use their VCR or DVD player (or buy a cheap one and watch tapes or DVDs or record, etc. on them, too)?


Maybe I have this wrong, but I know it said you either MIGHT need a convertor box, OR a VCR or DVD player to get the digital signal (just not with your TV and anntenna)


Just thought I'd pass this on, in case anyone who uses an antenna still hasn't gotten a converter box but might have a VCR or DVD player (or would rather buy one, instead)


The handle are coming off ...
and DH has welded a few back on. This set is about 10 years old, but it shouldn't be doing this.
I did, but got more money coming
in April, in fact more than twice what I am making now so intend to throw quite a chunk each month towards the card and whatever else my little heart wishes.
Family coming over
We make marinated chicken wings, 7-layer dip, meatball and Italian sausage sandwiches, potato salad, and of course BEER - lots of that ;-)

GO STEELERS!!
Not at all surprising, saw it coming
surprised she stayed as long as she did. When he was arrested for his drunk driving and his verbal outbursts the couple separated then. He has been seen in bars with other girls and the latest was romping in the ocean with a young thing, not his wife. These things have played out in the National Enquirer and other rags for some time.
Truly don't mean to be rude, but... sm

You called him a sociopath, then asked "doesn't he have any remorse or guilt?"  Well, no, not if he's a sociopath.  (Which I also think he is, BTW.) 


That's a big part of what makes someone a sociopath/physiopath (aka antisocial personality disorder) - not having a conscience or the ability to empathize about the feelings of others, among other things.  There are, (unfortunately) a lot of people in our society who are sociopaths, to some degree or other.  It's pretty scary.


He's a sickening man.  I've always wondered what it must be like for his two kids, being raised by the father who murdered your mother.  It always seemed insane to me that he was given custody of them.   


Because they are rude.
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How rude!
So what if you misread . . . I thought the recipe you shared sounded really good, and easy to boot! I personally would probably "cook a chicken breast" rather than using canned, but then I always change recipes to suit my taste (doesn't mean I wouldn't eat the canned chicken). Anyway, I thank you for sharing.
rude
If it was me I would have stopped and said what did you say. I am sure they probably would have shut up. Then i would have asked where do you live, so I can talk to your parents. LOL! You people are telling her to consider the source but come on if it was you walking you would have been ticked off!
please don't be rude
I'm a physical therapy graduate (party working as an MT) and my wife's a nurse.  These are just our initial income since we're just starting.  I'm working on my state board as Physical Therapist.  I would not think that you're just rude to me.
No. I think it is rude.
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