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Might also be your thyroid or Lyme disease. Insist on blood work! nm

Posted By: Hoping for good results on 2006-02-24
In Reply to: Does anyone know anything about MS? - af


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I was tested for Lyme disease when I first started with everything..thanks anyway. :( nm
Did he have blood work w/his job physical? Maybe they missed something. nm
I love my vet, the only blood work she does is an occasional - sm
heartworm test, about every 2 years. Only take the dogs (and cat) in for shots, no extra or unnecessary stuff. She is cheap (and good) too, compared to where we used to live. I'd say if there is a hint of a problem, then yeah it should get monitored. But if there is nothing wrong, then why? Once every few years should be adequate I would think for blood work. As for teeth cleaning, I have only done it once with 1 of dogs because she was going to be out anyways getting some teeth pulled, a tumor removed too, so we had her teeth cleaned. As for my other dogs, forget it, that is what Milk Bones and Dentabones are for. I already spend enough on shots for 3 dogs, Frontine, heartworm pills, special dog food for the 1 dog, etc. Some vets do whatever to get more $, others though don't get greedy (country vets) and think of the animal, not on pumping up their bottom line. If you aren't happy with your vet then either tell them you only want the 1 x a year visit, shots only, none of the extra crap, you can say NO, it's your pet. Or find another vet. Though we are in the boonies, we have 2 vets within 2 miles of each other, who are both very reasonable, go into town though and you pay a lot more.
It already has. I have to work from home because of disability due to chronic disease.
My physicians and visiting nurses are extraordinarily caring individuals who fortunate have (more so than I had previously thought, apparently).

Also, I can understand venting about a situation you feel you have no control over. I assume you desired sympathy or empathy or just someone to say, "I know where you are coming from," but to post incoherently and then lash out at those that reply is only going to add to your frustrations and negative feelings.

I am sorry you feel as though your health care providers don't care if you did, but I am sure that is not the reality of the situation. If you had taken the time to provide context to your rant, then you might have received the type of replies you were looking for, whatever that may have been.

Best of luck to you.
Now we have to insist patients
being treated are actually examined before treatment is rendered?

Wasn't it bad enough medicine when ER docs would proclaim a diagnosis before exam, only to have to backpedal after taking a look?? I guess if they are going to do things in that order, doing physical exams is going to result in their looking stuupid, so their solution is not to do that part.

Big grrrr.
Some MTs insist that they are good ...
(or even excellent) when in fact they are not. I know of one in particular who insists she is a very good MT and she does not even known which to use -- "there" or "their" or "their." Not to mention she put "tetanus" in an ENT exam when it was supposed to be "tinnitus."
Also why you should insist on having a contract.

Execute and sign a contract that spells out all of the particulars. This will save a lot of grief in the future. If the company doesn't want to use a contract, move on. If a company cuts corners there, where else might they be cutting corners?

As stated above, it's up to the MT to look out for their own best interest, not the employer.

But ultimately the doc is the boss...so you do it their way if they insist they want it a certain wa
Don't insist. Just confused and frustrated. nm

I have had hypothyroidism for the past 10 years and trust me, take the increased dosage. I have had doctors that actually do not believe in hypothyroidism and cut the dose and then I feel horrible for the next eight weeks until it gets back to normal. The little bit extra you would get in the increase in medication is not going to hurt you any. Actually, I found Armour thyroid to be better for me than the Synthroid. Synthroid never seemed to do anything for me. It only has the T4 hormones in it and the Armour has both the T3 and T4. Some doctors say you don't need the T3, but if your body produces it, you need it. I just feel better taking it. Presently, and over the past 10 years, my dose has increased to 120 mcg. It is an autoimmune disease and your levels will never stay the same. They will always fluctuate until your thyroid stops producing the hormones altogether, which is probably where I am at now. If I don't take my meds for say two months (which I have been known to do at times), I end up getting sick with flu-like symptoms...fevers, chills, nausea, vomiting, muscle aches and pains, etc. It takes a long time to get back to normal, so take the small increase. You may have to increase it again later on. There is also a discrepancy in what some doctors actually think is *normal*, too, so be aware that perhaps you DO need more than what you think you do. Do lots of research....I did. My body tells me what I need...not the doctors...if you know what I mean...even if I have to argue with them to get what I need. I will change doctors until I find one who knows what he is doing as far as the thyroid...or go to an endocrinologist. They know more about it. good luck. e-mail me if you have questions.
I had this when I was about 45. Couldn't get out of bed. I RARELY miss work (working at home, I work the rare times I'm ill), but I was starting to miss some work -- I couldn't keep my eyes open. It was my thyroid. Started meds, and in 2 weeks felt better.
LOL, mine rather do the worksheets than read, but I insist.
and insist product(s) safe...see link...sm


Bausch & Lomb: ReNu appears safe

Delay announced in 10-K filing; no reason given

BOSTON (MarketWatch) -- Bausch & Lomb Inc. executives are at a loss to explain why some users of its ReNu contact-lens solution have reportedly developed serious eye infections, saying Wednesday that all tests run so far have shown the product is safe and effective.

But shares of Bausch & Lomb (BOL :
Bausch & Lomb Incorporated

Last: 46.96+1.35+2.96%
10:46am 04/13/2006
Delayed quote data

Sponsored by:

46.96, +1.35, +3.0%)
resumed their move lower, dropping 7% to close at $45.61.

In a conference call held with analysts, Bausch & Lomb's management defended ReNu with MoistureLoc, a popular eye-care product used to clean, disinfect and store contact lenses.

"Every additional test indicates the formulation is as safe and effective as anything else on the market," said Ronald Zarrella, chief executive of the Rochester, N.Y.-based company.

Bausch & Lomb rattled both investors and consumers late Monday, when it announced it was suspending U.S. shipments of ReNu with MoistureLoc due to reports that some users had developed a rare but serious eye infection called fungal keratitis.

The Centers for Disease Control and the Food and Drug Administration are investigating 109 reports of fungal keratitis around the nation, but they've yet to conclude that the ReNu product is a cause. It was also unclear how many of the reported cases actually involved ReNu, according to the agencies.

While allowing that ReNu could be eventually be linked to the infections, Zarrella also emphasized that all testing to date has shown ReNu with MoistureLoc was safe and effective in combating microbes that can trigger fungal keratitis.

Bausch & Lomb also has been able to test bottles of ReNu solution retrieved from infected users, but found nothing out of the ordinary, he said.

"As far as theories, there's a lot of them, and we've run a lot of them to ground and come up with nothing," said Zarrella.

Fungal keratitis is a painful inflammation of the cornea that can, in some cases, lead to blindness. The infection, caused by a fungus found in the environment, can appear as a result of eye injury, improper use of contact lenses or contaminated contact-lens products.

Zarrella said that FDA officials were currently inspecting the company's Greenville, S.C., plant, where it produces all ReNu with MoistureLoc products for the U.S. market.

Zarrella also said that the company had no insight into how long the FDA and CDC investigations will take and whether it will eventually have to recall all of ReNu with MoistureLoc products from the U.S. market. At this point, Bausch intends only to stop shipping new product to retailers, not to reclaim bottles already on store shelves.

However, retail heavyweights Wal-Mart Stores (WMT :
Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.

Last: 45.81-0.09-0.20%
10:46am 04/13/2006
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Sponsored by:

45.81, -0.09, -0.2%)
, CVS Corp. (CVS :
cvs corp com

Last: 30.49+0.30+0.99%
10:46am 04/13/2006
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Sponsored by:

30.49, +0.30, +1.0%)
and Walgreen Co. (WAG :
Walgreen Co.

Last: 43.27+0.26+0.60%
10:46am 04/13/2006
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Sponsored by:

43.27, +0.26, +0.6%)
said earlier Wednesday that they were removing the product from their shelves, pending the outcome of the regulatory investigation.

According to the company, ReNu with MoistureLoc generated U.S. sales of about $45 million in 2005.


Analysts on the call voiced concern that the product alert could end up eroding sales of Bausch & Lomb's other eye-care products, which enjoy great popularity with consumers.

Zarrella responded that Bausch & Lomb intends to immediately embark on a new marketing campaign to promote the integrity of its products, adding: "We're going to convince consumers that our products are safe and effective."

The executive also announced that it was "unlikely" that the company will file its 2005 year-end financial report, or 10-K, with the Securities and Exchange Commission by April 30. Zarrella repeatedly declined to comment during the call as to why the company wouldn't meet that deadline.

True that works should insist on fair SM
compensation. However, strikes only work when the strikers CANNOT BE REPLACED. That's definitely not us, not now. To put it mildly! With our entire healthcare industry in economic crisis, it would be only too likely to push the industry to get rid of our jobs altogether. Many are arguing right now for shifting the money spent on verbal reports to other areas of patient care.

Just BTW, our work would be eliminated practically overnight if the federal government were to refuse to pay Medicare compensation dollars for it. Something that could be done.

Besides, let's face it, many people are still making a decent income because they've upgraded their skills to keep up with technologic change. Should hospitals be paying some people to spend at least half again as long to type reports as others can do them because they don't want to, or can't, add to their skills? Is that really a sensible allocation of our healthcare dollars?
Maybe have your thyroid checked? sm
A malfunctioning thyroid can cause those symptoms, I think. I used to work with a gal who was always freezing and slept alot and doc said her TSH was almost zip. He put her on Synthroid and she felt a lot better.
Maybe a thyroid problem?
Have you ever had your thyroid checked?  This can be a symptom.
Thyroid question, please...sm


Question about results on TSH (me personally, not a patient!)  I've been on 1 mg of Synthroid, but just got my TSH results.  They are RIGHT on the border of the lowest acceptable range.

My doc doesn't seem to think this warrants adjustment in the dosage, but I thought it should maybe be lowered a bit?  Any advice?  BTW, this is a fairly new doc to me, and I'm not entirely sure if I totally trust him yet, if you know what I mean.


Was she tested for thyroid? sm
Pretty common in cats and I believe that's one of the symptoms. Good luck.
Thyroid Problems in dogs. Yep. sm
I had one dog that was on Synthroid and a relative has one that is diabetic with cataracts, post cataract extractions.  Certain breeds are prone to diabetes as a matter of fact.  They get most of what we get, including diabetes, thyroid disorder, Crohn's disease, cancer, cardiomyopathy, seizure disorders.
I would suggest that you have your thyroid checked--sm
It is the number one cause of fatigue and most often overlooked by physicians. Have a complete TSH blood test. T3, T4, free T4, and an iodine uptake test.
I read that there is some idea it may be related to THYROID imbalance. Maybe
Had thyroid checked many times, totally normal. My mom
had thyroid trouble, used her hands constantly in her job and her hobby and never had problems.   Never heard this possible correlation before. 
I read it a couple of yrs ago. Also, re thyroid testing------there are important

You can have NORMAL thyroid test results........fine and good.  That only shows, however, that your thyroid is functioning.

It does not show you are utilizing the thyroid properly, though.

By that I mean are you absorbing the thyroid correctly.

That testing is more complex and time consuming.

My friend who has MS had quite a time getting her doc to do the testing correctly.  As you know, MS makes you super fatigued anyway - and whe the thyroid aspect is off kilter, you are wiped out.  Her testing was kind of like a blood glucose testing over several hours.  She went in for testing every 30 minutes or so and sat at the lab for the whole time. 

So, that may be something the article was alluding to as far as thyroid malfunctioning.  You may be MAKING thyroid fine but not absorbing it.

Guess you do not believe that it is a disease, huh?

There isn't a disease that causes someone to take that first drink, first

cigarette, or first hit of whatever.  I also think a lot of times "disease" is an excuse and not a real issue.   I come from a very long line of alcoholics on both sides of my family.  As as result I feel I have a predisposition to becoming an alcoholic, so I choose not to drink.   Alcoholism may be a disease in some people, but it is curable.  HIV/AIDS is a disease too that is 100% preventable.   I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who refuse to take responsibility for their actions and want to blame everyone else.  

I don't believe it starts as a disease. I

fully believe it starts as something to pass the time or forget problems, but then the body becomes dependent and then it causes disease.

Leyden's disease

is a clotting disorder occasion by an abnormality of Factor 5, according to the dictator, but I cannot get a solid spelling of this disease.  Anyone out there heard of it?



infectious disease
I may possibly be starting an infectious disease account soon.  I have already ordered a Stedmans dictionary, but was wondering if anybody has done any work in this field and have any advice, websites to check, etc. on this specialty.  I want to gain as much knowledge as I can before starting.  I appreciate any input.
Ah that must be the disease people have when the MDs can't
figure it out! They would NEVER say they don't know, right? I'm going through something similar. I know I have something going on, been sick for a few months, and never was before, and I mean, really never like this. They found a few little things so far but this MD really just can't figure it out, unfortunately. So, onto the next. I am confident that at some point I will find a good diagnostician that really knows their stuff, if any still exist. Hope you will too :)
I have Crohn's disease and have
had blockages after eating foods hard to digest.  My Crohn's is locasted in terminal ileum.  Had 2 feet of small intestine removed in 1998, but it came back in same place.  It is very narrow and scarred in this area again.  I have to be very careful about what I eat.  I don't eat anything that has a peeling on in unless I peel it first.  When I have a blockage, I have pain and then vomiting until it finally goes through on its own.  Have been to ERs many times.  It could rupture, and that would be very bad.  If he has an intestinal blockage, it is very serioius.
Yes to all the above - they need some new blood
infectious disease, but for some reason I also get
OT-Anyone have polycystic kidney disease?

I have just recently learned I have polycystic kidney disease (my mother died of kidney failure) and the cysts are on my right kidney, adrenal gland and on recent CT, (only two months from my first one), I have now developed cysts on my liver too. The kidney cysts are bleeding. :( I have daily right-sided aching and back pain. My right kidney is deformed and I have reflux on the right as well as kidney damage from childhood.

My whole illness started out about eight months ago as benign paroxysmal positional vertigo and it was horrible with nausea, anorexia due to that, and significant weight loss. I had two Epley maneuvers that corrected the vertigo. A CT of the abdomen and pelvis was done and that is when the first cysts on the kidney were discovered which I was told were not concerning in someone in their 50s. In the meantime, I had started eliminating a couple of my Rx meds and the nausea stopped, and so I felt they were the cause of my nausea which in a sense I feel could still be true but perhaps more due to not metabolizing the meds appropriately due to kidney and/or liver problems but I do not know that yet. I do not see a urologist until 09/07 and will find out more then.

It is my understanding that this is a hereditary/genetic disorder and there is no cure and progression to kidney failure is quite high by the time you are 60 and I am 52.

I was just wondering if anyone else has this or knows someone who does and what info they may be willing to share. 

Thanks so very much. :)

Does the patient have Paget's disease? If so,
that could explain prescribing it twice weekly.
Blood Test
Could it just be that his CEA is elevated? The rise in CEA would be used to determine if treatment is working. Just a thought.
blood thirsty
Call me all what you will, but I don't understand why Barney is being bashed here?

Hey BARNEY - I really don't think ya did anything wrong.

I suppose I better watch what I say or I could be crucified next by some of your blood hungry people!
blood clots
It happened to me earlier this year, right out of the blue--pulmonary emboli--and with no real risk factor other than sitting still doing long hours of transcription. Everybody stretch and move around--it's important!
I'd recommend getting CMP and other blood
tests and going from there.  If you get a physical and they do the blood work, should be covered under insurance. 
The blood can be from implantation, but...
it can also be a sign of miscarriage of ectopic pregnancy.  I have had three pregnancies.  During the first pregnancy I started having spotting at about 5 weeks that got heavier, and I ended up miscarrying.  The second pregnancy I started spotting at about 6 weeks, but went on to have a full term healthy baby.  The third pregnancy I started spotting and kept this up for 3 weeks.  When I started having pain in my lower right side they found that I had an ectopic pregnancy.
Lymphangioleiomyomatosis - LAM - never heard of this before but what a scary disease

They just reported on this disease on our local TV station.


"Lymphangioleiomyomatosis (LAM) is a progressive lung disease that strikes young women in the prime of their lives. The prevalence of the disease is not known but it has been estimated that there are a few hundred cases in the United States.

The disease is characterized by an unusual type of muscle cell that invades the tissue of the lungs, including the airways, and blood and lymph vessels. Over time, these muscle cells form into bundles and grow into the walls of the airways, causing them to become obstructed. Although these cells are not considered cancerous, they grow without the usual controls within the lungs. Over time, the muscle cells block the flow of air, blood, and lymph to and from the lungs, preventing the lungs from providing oxygen to the rest of the body.

Lymphangioleiomyomatosis is pronounced lim-fan-g-o-lie-o-my-o-ma-toe-sis. Lymph and angio refer to the lymph and blood vessels. Leiomyomatosis refers to the formation of the bundles of the unusual muscle cells.

Although there is no clear evidence for a hormonal abnormality, therapy has focused on estrogen reduction because of the population affected and includes tamoxifen therapy and progesterone therapy. Lung transplantation has become an established therapeutic option in patients with advanced disease. Recurrence of LAM has been reported in the transplanted lung of two patients raising questions about pathogenesis and suggesting a systemic component is involved.

The cause of LAM is not known. "

I worked for an infectious disease specialist sm
who was asked his opinion on someone suing a company because he caught pneumonia from being cold, then hot. This specialist said you cannot catch cold or any other illness from temperature, just from a bug. A person could get hypothermic and then get ill, but it would have to be in extreme cases. Here, it was 20 degrees on Monday and Tuesday, and yesterday 81, and today 62. I'm staying away from people who are coughing and sneezing. Temperature changes have nothing to do with illness.
Alcoholism is a progressive disease. Your man will never resurface. nm
A possibility would be ischemic bowel disease.

Some companies try to squeeze blood out of you
and as long as someone does it, that makes them think they can continue to do it. I would not do it for free. If they ask you to do it, then tell them what you charge. If they don't buy, then they are not worth working for. That's why all the industry rates are going down, down, down. Too many who just continue to work for free or low wages. We have to stand up for ourselves or the industry will just keep going down as we have seen it for a decade.
Do you take blood pressure medication? sm
They can make you extremely tired, too. I take Toprol XL and have for 13 years. It peaks about 3 hours after I take it I have trouble staying awake at the PC from 6 am to about 10:30 am. I literally fall asleep with fingers right on the keyboard. It was so bad that I finally changed to the afternoon shift. I asked my doc about it and he said try taking it at night. Well, that brought on the headaches I was trying to avoid. He said to take 1/2 in the a.m. and 1/2 in the p.m. No dice, still had headaches. He won't change my pills, says if it isn't broke, don't try to fix it. He wants to keep my pressure on the low side. My only solution was changing shifts and now I don't fall asleep at the keyboard anymore. I can get 10 hours of sleep at night but still fall asleep about 3 hours after taking that medication. I'm fine if I am up and about and doing things but sitting at the keyboard is another story.
Dad has blood clot in his lungs
Please pray for my daddy.  He and my mother and younger brother went on a 10-day, 3800 mile trip to Mount Rushmore.  He started having chest pain and arm pain while he was gone. He went to the doctor when he got back and they found out he had two blood clots that were in his legs and had traveled to his lungs.  He is in the hospital and they are trying to stabilize him on Coumadin.  He is 49 years old.  They said that they stopped every 2 hours for a break, but drove some distance every day but one.  I am worried about him, please pray for him.  He is not in any pain and is resting, reading and watching TV.  I don't want to lose my daddy.
Had to ammend the blood thing ... sm
Once she was proficient at cleaning and dressing minor scrapes (9 or 10), I had to ammend the blood to lots of blood, but by then, it had become a running joke. It now stands at massive amounts of gushing arterial blood, and she wonders why she can't break her neck, but a broken skull with brains oozing out is okay. Needless to say, she has a bit of a sick sense of humor. She's a great kid, though.
What is it they're looking for in the blood? Drugs?
How about yourself? I type a report on some horrible disease and think "Hey, I think I have that.
Oncology, Rheumatology, Pathology, Infectious Disease
No spin. No blood pressure problems.
I'm not complaining about an Indian MT taking good work from me and I don't know anyone within the company who gives out that information anyway.  I do believe you might resolve your issues by telling the whole story because at first glance it just sounds like you are complaining and really don't want a solution.  If that's the case I am sorry for you.  I am also sorry for you that your source came up with an "Indian MT" taking your work who only wants American doctors to cause your blood to boil.  Not only does this intruder come from India but she leaves you with the lousy Indian dictators.  Not that you sound prejudiced or anything.  But do you really need all that info to perform your job?    Or is someone trying to stir you up like that higher source you have within the company.  Maybe they want you to get mad  and quit!  Be careful who you believe and IF your source information is valid what are you going to do with it but fret?  That's not a good thing friend.