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Why would you create normals for doctors

Posted By: MT2 on 2006-02-01
In Reply to: DocQscribe normals - Soon-to-be-unemployed user of DocQscribe

and/or accounts you don't even know? That makes less than no sense. Do you just create your own things that you consider normal? Seriously trying to figure it out - I must be missing something.


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My normals sm.
I had a supervisor accuse me of holding hostage MY normals.  I reminded her that they were documents I had brought to the job as I had done this doctor at another national previously.  Anyway, don't the ding dongs realize they can just d/l a copy of a finished job and, tada!, there is a copy of a doc for that doctor. 
What are normals?
I am new to MT and I keep reading "normals" are these macros?
normals
After creating a normal, ctrl-N to save it. Should be able to retrieve it after.
Normals
We use "normals" too but I change them to fit the dictation. I was always told those are mostly for reference to help us get through the dictations. Not every MD dictates the exact same Normal and even when there's Normals for each particular MD, they don't always dictate it exactly the same. The only time I would leave "as is" is, for instance, a radiologist says "Chest x-ray, #36, end" and I would just pull normal #36 and send off. Of course, if the Normal doesn't fit the title(I.e.#36 is a head CT) I would still pull it but mark for the QA/practice manager to see the error.
Oh and keep the standards/normals for themselves

NO EXPANDERS AND NO NORMALS

You don't believe me?  I really don't care...That's my line count.....and I do it without Expanders or normals. I love my job, I'm the best at what I do and I always strive to do better than the day before.  Maybe you could do the same if you weren't so negative....


Boss asking for normals
Is anybody working for a company where your boss is asking you to share your NORMALS.  Be very careful.  My company is asking us to share your normals and come to find out who they want us to share with, overseas.  Also asking questions like, who are the best dictators, etc. Also experiencing block of work just disappearing.  Several hours just gone.  Anybody else.
I'd say "What normals?" (sm)
I had an OM tell me that he was contemplating not paying for macros. I said, "Oh, I don't have to worry. I don't use macros, I use an expander." That was the end of that. I'm sure he had to run back to his office to try to figure out what an Expander is! LOL
Abby Normals.
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DocQscribe normals

I will be leaving my company at the end of the week without a job to take its place.  It's taken me several years to accumulate all my normals, and I hate to think I will have to start over creating them.  Does anyone know how to transfer/move all the normals from DocQScribe to Word or to save them on my hard drive.  I hate to think I'll have to start over creating all new normals.  Thanks for your help.


 


do you mean making normals
for same docs? 
Yes, I mean making normals. nm :)
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The majority of normals are seen
Normals can also be a repetitive statement that the dictator makes, which you then turn into a normal so you do not have to keep typing the same thing over and over again.  Some use shortcut keys or Expander program.  I am not an expert on any of these as I do not use them.  Some who work in MS Word use autocorrect to expand terms or phrases that are said time and time again by a specific dictator.  I use autocorrect in Word and like it.  Hope this helps.  
Has anyone been able to transfer their normals/standards from
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No way, Jose. My normals are MINE. Don't let them do this! nm
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I never give anyone my normals. I have my own accounts and one
but it was a nice account - a surgery center with 200+ surgeons.  I told the surgery center I just couldn't continue doing the account, gave them the names of a couple of other MT companies they might want to contact.  They did contact them, elected to go with one of them, and then while I was finishing up with them while they transitioned to the new MT Company, they asked asked me for MY normals to give to the other MT Company.  Okay, there were SOME normals that the hospital associated with the surgery center had given me to begin with, but I felt that it was the responsibility of the hospital to give those to the new transcription service, not my responsibility.  Besides, I had changed the templates as needed, etc.  But most of the normals I had were ones that I spent a couple of years developing.  Now I wasn't just going to hand those over to a new MT service to make it easy on them.  Those were something I spent a LOT of time on and were, in my opinion, MY property.
Are you still cutting and pasting normals? I can't do
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What aggravates me are normals and samples
full of obvious typos and stylistic issues that we MTs get dinged for. In fact, I remember having a normal op at one place that had a made-up instrument name in it. It kept coming up on the spell check. Took me months to finally find the proper name.

I've come to expect sloppy and/or poorly written emails from managers and admin staff otherwise.
Normals in Expansion File
Just be aware that your company may have set a size limit for individual expansions to prevent transcriptionists from making "normals" that are not really normal, that is, not always exactly what the doctor says.
EXText Question About Normals
Hi,

 

I've had trouble recently being unable to retrieve normals I've made. 

 

When I make a personal normal and then try to access it during the current work session, it does not show up in the list.  This is true even after having been logged out of the system entirely, such as overnight and then returning to work the next day. 

 

If I try to re-do/re-create the normal using the same "Properties" info., I get a ping and message stating that that normal already exists.  Any info. on this? 

 

Also: 

Could there be a limit to how many normals, personal or shared, can be created on one person's list? 

 

Can personal normals be deleted?

 

I need more help than I've already gotten, so I'm posting here.  (My next step is contacting Dictaphone)
 

Thanks. 

 

Also have errors in normals I am told to use--sm
Does your platform allow you to have Transcriptionist normals? Mine does and i have corrected the normals and saved them in my set of normals. I also complained for over a year and they were not corrected. One of the most notable is an ultrasound abdomen that has the technique for an MRI. The transcriptionist has to remember to make the correction on every report she transcribes.
Expanders and normals...not mormals
just felt the need to correct your mistakes since you are picking apart others.
yes of course I use tons of expanders. At the most 25% normals though.
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Try putting in the normals by blocking and control Y....
then name it the name you want and then use control R to retrieve it. Works for me.
Will be variable depending on the normals and shortcuts you have and how
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Hi, I've gone the personal normals-only rte., still no luck. NM
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Shutting it on and off doesn't restore normals? Are you
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normals, templates, shorthand programs, etc
I was reading an earlier post that refers to companies making adjustments in our line counts because we are using these word expanders.  I have been wondering about that because even using as many as I possibly can, it seems like it does no good. I do about as many lines as I would normally do just typing the darn things out.  How are they making these adjustments, does anybody know and is it legal? Seems we have no standard anymore as to how lines are counted and companies are doing whatever the heck they want to us.
Well, I know you did, trying to create
LOL
You could probably create your own
if they want you to do that, you need to charge them an initial setup fee because that is timeconsuming and you don't get paid by the hour.

You definitely need to have a sit-down meeting with them to find out what they need. I would *think* the forms could be scanned or at least recreated on your computer, but again, without knowing what they have in mind, it's hard to tell.

My first thought is that it sounds like a real pain, lol, and that they might expect you to do things more THEIR way. You should be the one telling them what you will do, to a certain extent, and negotiate the rest. Look at their preprinted forms and tell them what YOU would like to do with them. They can either agree or negotiate something else, but if they ask you to do anything above your comfort level, charge them extra for that!

One word of caution - if you decide to recreate their forms, be clear that this is ONLY initial setup and make a separate charge for that. Otherwise, they may come to you with every form they want typed up for their office. If you don't mind doing that, at least charge them hourly for any forms as forms usually take far more time than straight typing. :)
Re your normals: keep a list handy, name them with short names..sm
then use Control R after you have typed the normal name; i.e.: Dr. Joe Blow has a ROS that he uses all the time - name it JBROS or something like that, then in the document type JBROS and use the control R to bring it automatically in.
you have to create it as a macro (sm)
hit F3 for help and then M or C to create Macros...
when you follow these instructions, it will create an ALT(whatever). Then, in your docutment, you would do ALT-K or ALT-J, or ALT(whatever you name it)
You can either go to File, New to create your own
dictionary; or you can go to File, Open to open one that you've downloaded. There are tons of free dictionaries out there, but it might be best to make your own with your own shortcut naming technique to be able to remember it better.
to create an expander, all you have to do is
highlight the text and hit control insert twice, then name the expansion. It can all be done with the keyboard, too, no mouse if you don't want. Very simple to add on the fly!
You have to create a macro. SM for how I did it.

I assigned my macro to ALT-B, but you can assign any keys you want so long as they are not already in use for another function.


To create a new macro you click:


Tools -> Macros -> Record a new Macro


A window will open up that says:


Macro Name:  In the box type in the name you wish to give your macro. (I simply typed in AltB).


In the middle of the window you will see "Assign Macro to" with two buttons that say "Toolbar"  and "Keyboard".  Click the Keyboard button.


This opens a new window and your cursor will be in the field that says "Press new short cut key".  You will hit the series of keys you want to assign your macro to (in my case it was Alt+B).


Below you should see "Currently assigned to [unassigned}"  If it says it is assigned, you will need to pick other keys to assign your macro to.


Finally, click assign.


Now you are in your document and there will be a little box that has a stop button and pause button.  Every keystroke you make from this point on is recorded and will be assigned to your macro.


Now you want hit Ctrl+F which will bring up the find window and type in a character that you want your cursor to jump to.  I use the asterix (*).  Then click the stop button on the little box.


Then test our your macro.  I have report templates I use that look like this:


CHIEF COMPLAINT:  *


HISTORY OF PRESENT ILLNESS:  *


And every time I hit Alt+B, I jump to the next asterix.


I hope this helps.  It sounds kind of confusing when you are trying to explain how to do it, but once you do it it is really pretty simple.


It isn't that difficult to create your own...

Yes, it will take a bit of time, but you will then have a test that belongs to you.  Any that you might find on the internet are most likely not meant for the use of others. 


 


Create a template.

Create bookmark names (patient, date, etc.). Put a cross-reference to those bookmark names where you want them to appear in the document. Save the template. Now, when you open the template, create a new document, fill in the patient name, date, etc. and mark with the appropriate bookmark. When you're finished with that, hit F9 and it will update all fields.


Both bookmark and cross-reference are found under Insert; cross-reference is a subcategory of Reference.


Do you need to defrag? May create more
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You can create as many glossaries as you would like.
However, I have found that using one glossary for each specialty/practice is easier for me--no switching between glossaries, thereby saving some keystrokes. They glossaries can hold quite a lot of information--I haven't run out yet.
If you don't know how to create a macro
an unhelpful post to someone asking for help? Especially since someone else had already given her good instructions for what she wanted to do and another poster had pointed her in the direction of a board devoted to increasing productivity.
Might be better to create new account.
Not sure, don't think you can revise an account. You may need to just create a whole new account. Keep the current one dormant. Create a new one using an alternate email address. Then give this alternate email address to your MTSO for sending payments. It's worth a try. Set up this new account before you're supposed to get paid again so you have time to go through the paypal verification process. Unless you already have several email addresses, for an alternate email I found a nice free email service that I use as a backup resource: inbox.com. You could just set this up and use this email to receive payments. Again, my disclaimer: just my thoughts on this. Not guaranteed info. Hope this can work out better for you this way.
Just create a new template.
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I would never voluntarily give them "my" normals, my work product. SM
The nerve of these people. 
Maybe if it is gross lines, lots of headers and footers and normals......sm
Other than that, I really can't imagine it.
So God does create gays? He gives some the "instinct" ? nm
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You can always create a test page for yourself...sm
just take a typical page long transcription, then manipulate it in different ways to find out how it affects your pay. First format it so that there are about 65 char on every line, then do a line count. That is gross line. Then take the character count and divide by 65, that is a net line, or 65-char line.  You will see you lose about 1/3 of your pay. Keep your test page and then just format it different ways for the different line count options. That will give you an idea of what you are actually earning. Don't forget to figure in if you will be putting in patient demos, headers/footers, etc.
RE: Create a macro for "jump"
Could you please send me the instructions for creating such a macro? I would be forever thankful. Thanks....thinking of you in kind. KO
Either create it in the header section of

page set up or use a hard return after it and a page break at the end. Center text below the hard return but above the page break and leave a regular line at the bottom of the page.  I would then copy it and paste it however many times I needed a report for then go back to the first and start filling in.


Hope this helps.


You have to create it with the bold command
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What if you post messages under a different SN (AOL gives you ability to create several).
I remember posting a response. Received an e-mail began which began with "Hi" and my name. This was rather unsettling as you can imagine.
Thought I just heard that Gov. Douglas in VT is about to create his own
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