I grew up with guns in the house.
Posted By: Trigger Happy on 2009-06-23
In Reply to: Gun Control - TechSupport
My father had gun racks and he always kept one rifle loaded in case someone tried to break into the house. All three of us kids knew it and we also knew not to touch it. My dad taught us how to shoot, the safe way to use guns, and what NOT to do with a gun. I think the problem with a lot of gun related accidents is that parents hide the guns and don't teach their kids the dangers and how to properly handle guns.
If you take guns away from the law-abiding citizens....it won't stop the criminals from getting them and then we will have nothing to protect ourselves with. That is common sense really. It will just create an even bigger black market for guns and only the unlawful citizens will buy them illegally like that which will leave the lawful citizens unprotected from criminals.
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I used to know it all, just like you, then I grew up (sm)
and realized I was wrong. You will too. Let's hope our country is still free by that point in time so you can still express your views, once you have truly learned what your views are.
I grew up on..............sm
peas grown in my Dad's garden and cornbread cooked in my mom's stove.
My Dad was the sole breadwinner in our family of 4 and Mom was a magician when it came to stretching Dad's paycheck to provide the family with all that we NEEDED. We learned early on in life that there was a large distinction between our NEEDS and our WANTS. Our menu was very basic, like yours, beans and cornbread, peas, chicken and dumplings, etc. The only time we had steaks was when Dad had a steer butchered when he had cattle. We also raised hogs at one time for meat. My mother made every stitch of clothes I wore almost until I left home, including my prom dresses. She would have made my wedding dress, but we lived on a red dirt road and she just knew that my white dress would no longer have been white had she made it. But we did find the perfect dress at a bridal shop on sale for $100.....remember this was 1978, LOL. She could not have sewn it for that, even if we had lived on a paved road!
Still, with all that, I never knew I grew up poor until I was well past grown and looked back over some of the events of my childhood. We were rich in love and family and faith in God.
Part of the problem with the welfare system, and America in general, is that we have been offered so many choices for so long, that we have become greedy and feel entitled to have anything we want, regardless of whether we can afford it or not. That, I fear, is not something that welfare reform or legislation can change.
Yes, my income grew after 2001...nm
Moved home, and I took my primary account home with me as an IC, and then promptly found two other accounts. I've always worked more than one job, and being at home is no different. And it's always been just me doing the work, no one else.
However, in the last two years, since dems have had control of Congress, my income has plummeted by 20,000. The most I ever made was close to $80,000 a year, and that was working 12 hours a day, every day, seven days a week.
Now, I have to work more day, get paid less, and make somewhere around $55 or 60,000.
I'm an IC MT/editor/QA type person, who does all three, for different clients, depending on who I work for.
Not an MTSO, but took advantage of all the tax breaks for small businesses, as well as HSA account for health purposes, just for my husband and myself.
Soooo...to answer your question to sam....Yes, I did well in the first four years after 9/11. I work my butt off, to be able to live where I do. We're middle class America....but dropping fast.
I cannot afford to have more taxes. I cannot afford to pay for more social programs for those who do not work.
As someone said recently on this board. Why should I work my butt off to make $60,000 a year, to be told I am in an upper middle class bracket, and have to dole out thousands more in taxes to the people who refuse to work? (And if they can't work, there are progrmas for them) I'd do just as well working only 40 hours a week, instead of the 80 to 100 I do work.
Do not believe for a moment, that Obama knows what he's doing for the economy. It's all a subterfuge to raise taxes anything that isn't tied down, and then some. A one time tax rebate to lower and middle America, to buy their votes. Then tax, tax, tax.
No thanks.
She actually grew up middle class
and made her own money. Then married Sir Rothschild. Why couldn't I have found a guy like that?!?
I grew up in extreme poverty myself - I am only 40 - I know (sm)
I know what the world is really like. I am not superficial. You just have no idea what you are talking about. I AM being a resonsible American and this is not nonsense. That is the confusion here.
It didn't say he grew up in Pakistan
Big difference.
I don't mind you asking. I grew up north of ...
Sallisaw, Oklahoma. About 23-24 miles from Fort Smith down Interstate 40. Arkansas border to the north at Siloam Springs...to the east Fort Smith. Beautiful part of the country. I hope to go back some day.
Never been to the casino at Siloam, but I have been gone from that area quite awhile. There was an antique/flea market kind of place there in Siloam I used to like to go to...browse for hours. lol.
As to Buy American...yep, and they tried to keep it that way for a long time. And I know you don't want to hear this...but every time Democrats got control of congress taxes went up, especially on corporations...and you have to do something to compete.
And you have to face it...there would be millions of Americans without jobs if it weren't for Wal-Mart. They are a huge part of the American economy. :)
Question: When the economy GREW the 4 years after
Job security? Standard of living? Most likely not, unless you happen to live in India.
I grew up Baptist, and we thoroughly studied both books
And, as always, we picked and chose that which we would apply to our lives, and how we would interpret what it said.
You know the only things I took away from my childhood religion?
"Love your sisters and brothers."
"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
"Do unto others as you would have done to you."
And having studied the Nag Hammadi library, which gave much, much more insight into what Jesus recommended, it seems as if that - believe it or not - is exactly what he meant.
So when you say someone is "wrong," you are judging them. When you are asking someone to change their lives to accommodate your beliefs, you are doing unto them something you're asking not be done to you. And I believe we can agree that love is unconditional (something I believe 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 alluded to), regardless of what other's choices are - even if you disagree with them.
I grew up in California and it is a real problem...
They end up closing down emergency rooms because they can't turn away illegals who need medical help and most don't pay. Don't know anything about PA, but it seems to be pretty bad here in Nebraska where I have been lioving since December.
Well, I say good for him! 'Bout time somebody grew
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What makes you think that everyone who believes in Jesus grew up in the church?
I most definitely did not, and it is an absolute MIRACLE that I even came to the Lord. My parents are as far from Christ as can be. I literally came to Christ "kicking and screaming". I did not want to believe in him. Mostly because I did not want to have to follow HIS rules. But I am here, and I am saved, and I thank God that I am! It is the best thing to ever happen to my SOUL.
we need our guns
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guns
So you think our guns should be taken away? You think that just because you take the guns of legal, law abiding citizens that the crooks and criminals won't still have them? So when someone breaks into my house out here in the country where the nearest police station is 15 minutes away AT LEAST, I should just call the cops and pray they get here in time before the crook kills me or does worse?
We don't love, love, love our guns, but this day in age, they are a necessity for some of us. Not to mention the farmers that need to protect their livestock and cattle. Our neighbor raises goats and last year a pack of stray dogs attacked his goats and killed 8 of them. If he hadn't shot the dogs they would have killed all 35 of them. (He tried to get animal control to catch these dogs multiple times but they didn't do anything.)
And in this little Georgia town, I have heard plenty of talk about what will happen if O doesn't get elected. And none of it is productive or safe.
Not all change is good.
Guns
The guns rhetoric didn't just start this year, it's been going on as far back as I can remember and that's quite awhile. The economy is, or should be, the focus of attention. If that doesn't happen soon, you aren't going to have to worry about your guns. You won't have money to buy them and more than likely you'll be happy to trade them for FOOD.
I have guns and would use them...sm
if the situation presented itself in order to protect my family and my home. I pray it never comes to that, though.
Who said anything about waving guns around? sm
I was talking about being prepared.
Just how many more smoking guns
Good grief!
http://news.nationaljournal.com/articles/0330nj1.htm
take my guns AND take my money???
i was posed to start deducting from my check and putting into IRA again, and this gives me pause. big pause. geez crime-iny.
she's showing off the guns...
which do look amazing, probably larger than his!
What I meant to say was that's why it's no use waving guns around.
This is no Hollywood movie where the bad guys wear easily identifiable Nazi uniforms or are dressed like ridiculous stereotypes of native americans. And this is precisely what our military is finding out in Iraq.
He THINKS he's gonna take guns away..
the NRA is one of, if not the most, powerful lobbying organizations in the nation. Don't think many would stand for that.
Guns are not all the "pubs" are worried about....
but it is a legitimate concern. It is a guaranteed constitutional right. Why would you defend other constitutional rights and be so willing to give that one up?
Personally I think all the give me all the handouts you want to at the expense of others posts are getting pretty darned old.
I keep my guns and freedom, you keep the change! nm
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guns, fear, what a post, blah
Nah, I dont think terrorists will come my way but, however, when I move back to NY next year (cant wait), if a terrorist decides to blow up my beloved subway system or Long Island railroad, I dont think a gun would mean much. I do suggest Bush check out our borders cause right now Im living in CA, two hours from the Mexican border and it is quite easy to get across, without a problem at all and he should also check out the trucking industry cause there has been a question that possibly they can blow up trucks but, however, you cant live your life in fear. Im not afraid..Im living my life as I have. Im not afraid to die..With introspection, however, I am a bit fearful of suffering, so if it ever happened, I would hope I would die, not suffer, ya know?
Guns and nuns and moose on buns - LOL!
crack, meth, gangs, guns
Yea, wanting to be an architect is so Nazi and brain washing compared to the crypts and the bloods, welfare and prisons. Do you know what percentage of black men are in prison? What percentage get shot before they are 40? Give me a break. Needing to prepare for the end is just pure racist and you know it.
If John McCain had stuck to his guns and been...sm
able to run as himself instead of being remolded by the right wing of his party, he probably would have sailed over the finish line. He killed any chance of winning the election when he gave control away.
Lawyers, guns, and money?! no message
?
People who carry guns are AFFORDED that right under
we are supposed to be a free country and live our own lives.... so that means govt control should never be in play. The problem is for those who don't have a lick of insurance, hardly ever worked,nothing, have always found a way to buy cigarettes ALL their lives and the taxpayers end up paying for them in their last miserable days with cancer, surgery, oxygen, hospitalized, home health, etc. I realize it's a tough thing all the way around....
but, if the govt wants to do something why not tell ANYONE taking welfare payments that if they spend taxpayer money on cigarettes OR booze for that matter, their resultant healthcare will not be on the taxpayers' backs. Wonder how that would go over!
Hope y'all don't mind giving up your guns
If Obama wins, say bye-bye, and that's just the tip of this iceberg.
Remember what happened in New Orleans? It was outrageous!
PIx didn't come through - pictures were all of guys waving large guns around...
Guns, guns, guns and threats, threats, threats.
It is weird to post this on a board "im black and i have guns and ammo" wth?
That's just plain odd to post on an MT board. Looking for trouble.
wrong again - I did not say grew up in Paky, I said "was" in Paky.
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Our house........
Is a 600 sq ft cottage. The best part about it is the HUGE fenced in yard (for our dogs). It was all we could afford when we were house hunting. It needs work, I would love just a small addition, but that's not going to happen anytime soon. I guess I have to be happy with the fact that we are not drowning in heat bills.
Our old house
was a 24x32 bungalow, 2 bedrooms, 1 bath. Try squeezing 3 boys, a cousin, and a friend in that. We had just finished remodeling the whole thing when we got flooded out. Then we started building the one on higher ground, but the foundation of the old one started caving in from the undermining of the flood water. The floor and the walls spread 3 feet apart. But we lived like that for 3 more years trying to get the new place done. We finally couldn't wait any longer.
I believe the Democrats will take the House
and pick up seats in the Senate enough to make it very even. When Lieberman is elected as an Independent, I predict he will change his party to Democrat when he gets into the Senate, a direct slam at the Democrats who failed to support him. Lieberman, the only Democrat with a spine, will be the big winner. I am not gnashing my teeth about any of this. Democrats are the one who do the teeth gnashing. They have been gnashing since Bush won the first election and their bitterness and sore loser attitudes have eaten away like a cancer all these years. Democrats have no plan for keeping America safe, or winning the war against the fanatics. They have opposed most of the Bush administration’s domestic surveillance methods. They have opposed aggressive interrogation tactics designed to get information to protect us, including opposition to the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, where detainees are treated better than they could expect if they were detained in their homelands... The terrorists in Iraq and elsewhere don’t speak of timetables for withdrawal or bringing their fighters home. They’re in it for the long haul. They believe we are not. A victory by Democrats will validate their view and encourage them to fight harder. Republicans have been far from perfect in this war. They have barely approached mediocrity in their handling of domestic issues. But to change horses and leaders mid-war is a prescription for a longer engagement, because this is a confrontation that will end only in victory or defeat for one side or the other. That’s why the Republicans need to keep their majority and conservatives need to keep the pressure on them to get back to the original GOP principles that brought them that majority. That’s a better strategy than Republicans acting like Democrat-lite. Unfortunately, I think it is too late this time around. But there is always next time. God Bless our troops.
Bush house
That neighborhood was pricey 50 years ago.
Is this what the US needs in the White House?
??????
I think NOT.
That's where we really need the house cleaning - sm
In the senate & house (congress or whatever that place is where all the politician vote on issues). All of them should be recalled, fired, whatever (and not be sent back to their home state where they can continue with the damage). Pelosi, Dodd, Franks should be the top 3 to go and then quite a few more. People should get more involved in what it is their senator is voting for and if it is not for the good of the people there needs to be a march or something and these so called senators asked to leave. And if they don't leave we need some bouncers to go in and literally remove them from the position. If you have a worker that is fired they are removed immediately from the premises and that should be the way it works with politicians too.
Can they see Russia from their house?
A house divided...
Unfortunately, until we can get over ourselves, we won't. I just wonder how bad it will have to get before we wake up.
I guess we'll find out soon.
A house negro? What?!...sm
I have never even heard that term before. What is a "house" negro supposed to mean anyways?
In the White House, someone who has kept the
nm
I sure wish I could afford to buy a house right now!
Almost 1/3 of the houses in my small town that are for sale are foreclosed. They're all cute little Victorians, and I'd just LOVE to have any one of them.
That's how he bought his house......
With the money paid on his book deals.....yes, frugal by choice and probably habit. If I got that much of an advance on my books, the first thing I'd do is buy a gorgeous house in a nice neighborhood to raise my kids.
My house has been broken into, as well...
a far cry from a war on our soil.
Yes, yes. I have 1/2 mile from my house.
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Considering what we got in the white house, that's all
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we already have a racist in the white house
George Bush does not like black people
Mr. Bugliosi went before the house judiciary...
committee when they discussed impeachment, and they were not impressed enough, even with a Democratic majority, to start impeachment proceedings. What I read about that tells me all I need to know. How a seemingly rational human being can think that one man could so manipulate not only this government but foreign governments as well who said the intelligence was real, and ignore the fact that the Clinton Administration was talking regime change in Iraq, even authored the Iraqi Liberation Act...and still think that Bush all alone and by himself lied to the world (these same people who call him a bumbling ignoramus today) and made them all believe it...you can honestly tell me that he was intelligent enough to pull off that kind of hoax with all the checks and balances of this government and in the world...and you really believe that? It is not that I am a Bush fan...because he has done a lot of things I certainly don't agree with. But to try to blame the Iraq war on one man...and lay absolutely NO blame at the feet of the intelligence agencies, the head of the CIA that he inherited from Clinton, or at Congress for voting for it...makes absolutely no sense to me, and I would be saying the same thing if it were a Dem president people were trying to railroad.
Okay, I won't say anything about someone wanting to sell books, since I have not read Bugliosi's. However, as far as brisk sales, I believe "Obama Nation" went straight to #1 on the New York Times best seller list and may still be there. Have you read that one? And "The Case Against Barack Obama" debuted at #5. Just in case you are interested. I am about halfway through that one, and I am putting it to the test...I am independently verifying every point made (amazing what you can find in public record on the internet). Maybe I am not the only one that needs to move out of my "comfort zone" maybe? Perhaps you should too. You might be surprised at what you find, to coin your words.
Frankly, I am not that interested in Bush. He is on his way out. Like I said...I have several problems with him. But, as much as many people would like to, it is just not logical to blame him alone for the war in Iraq. Any more than it would be to blame Obama if he were in the same set of circumstances, or anyone else. I believed Clinton when he said Iraq had WMD and tortured and killed his own people, and I believed Bush when HE said the same thing.
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