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Unless you're God, you can't cut the deficit in half AND

Posted By: spend trillions more in turn...........common sens on 2009-02-26
In Reply to: Bush Created The Deficit - MTPockets

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No, I do not see irony in this and calling him a half and half?
I have a mixed daughter and she thanked me 1 time, saying "I have the best of both worlds." Perhaps he feels the same- it is not a put down of 1 side or the other- if you don’t understand now, you probably never will. It is the black that dominates as a color, not the white- therefore lots of mixed people go by the stronger of the 2 colors, has nothing to do with if they are pleased or trying to put down 1 side. I think this is such a trivial matter, myself. What in the world does it matter where he was born or where he lived? Why would you call him a half and half- you my sweetie are showing a lot of racism. Get yourself under better control, ok? You can have a stroke by getting out of sorts like you are doing. You seem to be fuming.
I see nothing racist about half and half......
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Maybe it has to do with the deficit. If you
up to your eyeballs in debt, then you are anti-American and don't support the ballooning deficit? Hey, it's as good as any other twisted logic we've had shoved down our throats the last 6 years.
Look what he has done to the deficit in 2 months....
something it took Bush 8 years, and attack on this country and a war to do. No one has attacked us, and he has managed to double the debt in 2 months. Just think what he can do in 4...6...MONTHS, not years. And he won't be able to fix it just taxing the "rich." So, along with the promise to get all the troops out of Iraq (reneged already), along with the promise to do a line-by-line and stop earmarks (there were only 900+ on the bill he just signed - reneged already), will be the "I'm sorry, but the economy is lookin better and we have to raise taxes"...that will be the next one he reneges on. Unless of course you are in that bracket who gets refunds when you don't even pay taxes...is that where you are? No wonder you love him. All hail the great and powerful 0. lol.
deficit reduction?? Dont believe it.
Sorry, but I dont believe the reduction figures.  This administration has lied about almost everything that I frankly dont believe these figures.  We shall wait and see and most probably the figures will be proven to be wrong, as most everything coming from this administration..
Well, "dems", you have a big credibility deficit
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The Solution to the Budget Deficit


by: Dean Baker, t r u t h o u t | Perspective




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Peter Peterson. (Photo: Reuters)




    Peter Peterson is coming to get your Social Security and Medicare. Peterson was the commerce secretary in the Nixon administration. He then went on to make billions of dollars as one of the top executives at the Blackstone Group, a private equity fund. Mr. Peterson is known as one of the top beneficiaries of the fund managers' tax break, through which he personally pocketed tens of millions of dollars.


    Mr. Peterson has been using his Wall Street wealth to attack these social insurance programs for decades, but he recently stepped up his efforts. Last year, he spent $1 billion to endow the Peter G. Peterson Foundation to further his efforts.


    In politics, it's not easy to counter the impact of $1 billion. In addition to its money, the Peterson crew enjoys the support of many important news outlets, most importantly The Washington Post, which pushes his line on both its editorial and news pages.


    In fact, The Post even went so far as to identify Peterson's foundation by its boilerplate, an organization that "advocates for federal fiscal responsibility," instead of telling readers of its political leanings, the normal mode of identification for such organizations. (The Center for Economic and Policy Research was established "to promote democratic debate on the most important economic and social issues that affect people's lives.")


    While the Peterson crew may have the money and the support of the media, the rest of us can rely on logic and ridicule to counter the attack. In this spirit, we have the Peter G. Peterson Intergenerational Fairness Tax Credit. (Mr. Peterson is apparently fond of having things named after him. In addition to his new Peter G. Peterson Foundation, he also has a think tank named after him, the Peter G. Peterson Institute for International Economics.)


    The Peterson tax credit would essentially take the Peterson crew at their word. They claim that they are worried that huge tax burdens will leave future generations worse off than the generations that preceded them.


    This isn't true. There is no plausible scenario, short of war or environmental disaster, that would leave future generations worse off than their parents or grandparents. But we don't have to argue with the billionaire; let's just give future generations the option to trade places with their parents or grandparents who made out so well.


    This is where the tax credit comes in. The tax credit would allow an individual to trade her after-tax income for the after-tax income that someone born 20 or 40 years sooner would have earned at the same age. For example, if someone born in 1990 believes in 2020 that their grandparents got a better deal, they would simply check off the year 1940, and they would have their taxes adjusted so that they would have the same after-tax income of a person born in 1940, when they were also age 30.


    Of course, the young ones would end up big losers in this story. Real wages, on average, will be more than 50 percent higher in 2020 than they were in 1970. Even if tax rates were, on average, 5 percentage points higher, workers in 2020 will still have after-tax wages that are more than 40 percent higher than their counterparts in 1970.


    This means that anyone who chose to take advantage of the intergenerational equity tax credit would end up as a big loser. That is why it can help solve the deficit problem. If people check off the tax credit, they will pay more in taxes and, therefore, increase government revenue.


    It might be hard to convince large numbers of people to voluntarily pay more in taxes. This is where the Peterson Foundation comes in. They are spending huge amounts of money trying to convince young people that they are being ripped off by their parents and grandparents. They are even promoting front groups of young people to advance this effort.


    With his billion dollars, Peterson could convince a huge number of gullible young people to tax advantage of the intergenerational equity tax credit. Insofar as he is successful in this effort, he can help to generate billions of dollars that can be used for items like health care, preschool education, and other pressing needs.


    So, let's join efforts with Mr. Peterson and encourage his followers to take advantage of the Peter G. Peterson Intergenerational Fairness Tax Credit. There is a word for taking money from willfully ignorant young people who would deny their parents and grandparents the Social Security and Medicare benefits they need to survive: justice.


Bush Created The Deficit
You should at least give the new president the opportunity to try to change things. He has to take a radical approach as the "business-as-usual" attitude in Washington would rather sit around and watch our economy and nation crumble than come up with any real, workable solutions.

Bush was handed a surplus when he took office and look how he managed to get us deep into debt. He left this legacy to the current administration to try to straighten out.

Republicans should put partisanship behind them and do what is right for this country - not themselves. When they were elected, they were supposed to represent all the people...
The deficit is coming down. It is down by 18 billion just recently

how do you know no one has anyone serving over there.  You have no way of knowing that.


Interview with Clinton RE: Bush's deficit
Tax cuts are always popular, Clinton said. But about half of these tax cuts since 2001 have gone to people in my income group, the top 1 percent. I've gotten four tax cuts.

Now, what Americans need to understand is that that means every single day of the year, our government goes into the market and borrows money from other countries to finance Iraq, Afghanistan, Katrina and our tax cuts, Clinton added. We depend on Japan, China, the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia and Korea primarily to basically loan us money every day of the year to cover my tax cut and these conflicts and Katrina. I don't think it makes any sense. I think it's wrong.


Clinton also discussed bringing world leaders together to combat the world's chronic problems — including extreme poverty, global warming and religious conflicts — as well as the Hurricane Katrina recovery effort and Hillary Clinton's political future.


The interview follows:


GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Mr. President, good to see you again.


FORMER PRESIDENT CLINTON: Thank you, George.


STEPHANOPOULOS: We're here on your initiative, and I want to talk about that, but let's begin with Katrina. President Bush has brought you into the recovery effort, but he's not taking all of your advice. You say roll back the tax cuts for the wealthy. He says no tax increase of any kind. We're spending $5 billion a month in Iraq, probably $200 billion on Katrina. Something's got to give.


CLINTON: Well, that's what I think. I think this idea — I think it's very important that Americans understand, you know, tax cuts are always popular, but about half of these tax cuts since 2001 have gone to people in my income group, the top 1 percent. I've gotten four tax cuts.


They're responsible for this big structural deficit, and they're not going away, the deficits aren't. Now, what Americans need to understand is that that means every single day of the year, our government goes into the market and borrows money from other countries to finance Iraq, Afghanistan, Katrina and our tax cuts. We have never done this before. Never in the history of our republic have we ever financed a conflict, military conflict, by borrowing money from somewhere else.


STEPHANOPOULOS: The president is not going to move. What do Democrats do?


CLINTON: They should continue to oppose it, and they should make it an issue in the 2006 election, and they should make it an issue in the 2008 election. And they should hope, to goodness, for the sake of our country, that the cows don't come home before we have time to rectify it.


I mean, sooner or later, just think what would happen if the Chinese — We're pressing the Chinese now, a country not nearly rich as America per capita, to keep loaning us money with low interest to cover my tax cut, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Katrina and at the same time to raise the value of their currency so their imports into our country will become more expensive, and our exports to them will become less expensive. And by the way, we don't want to let them buy any oil companies or anything like that.


So what if they just got tired of buying our debt? What if the Japanese got tired of doing it? Japan's economy is beginning to grow again. Suppose they decided they wanted to keep some of their money at home and invest it in Japan, because they're starting to grow?


We depend on Japan, China, the United Kingdom, Saudi Arabia and Korea primarily to basically loan us money every day of the year to cover my tax cut and these conflicts and Katrina. I don't think it makes any sense. I think it's wrong.


STEPHANOPOULOS: Is there anything coming out of this initiative here that you can apply directly to Katrina and the poverty we saw revealed there?


CLINTON: Oh, yes, we have raised quite a bit of money for Katrina here. And former President Bush and I, you know, we were asked to raise money. We already have $90 million to $100 million. And what we're trying to do is make sure that our money goes directly to the poorest people who have been dislodged by working with church groups and others. We're working on some mechanisms now to do that, and we'll have some announcements in the next week or so.


But I think there will be a lot of money coming forward from the federal government. A lot of it will be necessary, you know, to build the infrastructure, rebuild the fabric of life and not simply in New Orleans but along the Gulf Coast.


STEPHANOPOULOS: The Gulf Coast.


CLINTON: Yes; you know, keep in mind, Mississippi was devastated. Everything from a mile in Mississippi was blown down, and Alabama, but we've got to do that.


STEPHANOPOULOS: Excuse me; the problems of race that were tied to poverty here, and I know you don't think there's any conscious racism at play in the response, but we saw one more time blacks and whites looked at this event through very different eyes. What can President Bush do about that, and looking back, do you think there was anything more you could have done as president?


CLINTON: Well, I think we did a good job of disaster management.


STEPHANOPOULOS: But the racial divide.


CLINTON: Well, I think we did a good job of that. For example, we had the lowest African-American unemployment, the lowest African-American poverty rate ever recorded. We had the highest homeownership, highest business ownership, and we moved 100 times as many people out of poverty in eight years as had been moved out in the previous 12 years.


This is a matter of public policy, and whether it's race-based or not, if you give your tax cuts to the rich and hope everything works out all right, and poverty goes up, and it disproportionately affects black and brown people, that's a consequence of the action made. That's what they did in the '80s; that's what they've done in this decade.


Palin's amazing geographic deficit.
According to CNN report:  Sarah Palin cannot name the NAFTA countries....there are only 3 (US, Mexico and Canada), the 7 CAFTA countries, thinks Africa is a COUNTRY rather than a continent (!) and believes South Africa is a region of the African "country" instead of its own separate country.  She's got a lot of catch up to do between now and 2012. 
Deficit Soars in Obama's Budget
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29392964/
Obobblehead QUADRUPLED the deficit in 4 months!
How much more time do you want to give this numbnut before you'll admit he's bad for America?

If a rabid dog is chewing on my leg, I don't have to wait a yaer to figure out if it hurts.
Just read today that the deficit is projected to go down to 313 billion very soon. sm
That's well over 100 billion less, but I know how hard it is to shape the words of appreciation for Hitler Nazi war criminal Bush, so the rest of us will just celebrate.
Attention deficit disorder? Don't flame lies....
to get attention. The attack on the USS Cole was pre-Bush. The "terrorists"were placed in Gitmo during Ws term - actually, they've only convicted 2 - and they have languished at taxpayers expense for what? No evidence. No proof of wrongdoing. Most were imprisoned illegally, hence, the need for flushing habeas corpus. Get your head out of your own butt.
Over a $10 trillion dollar deficit today? That didn't happen on O's watch.
Yes, they need to trim down a lot of the programs crammed in the current stimulus package. But I don't approve of McCain's, either. Giving the top 10% a tax break benefits NO ONE but the top 10%. They drink imported wines, buy designer clothes and travel to foreign destinations - how does that benefit the bulk of Americans? It takes $30,000 to $40,000 in gas just to fill up their yachts - who does that benefit? Not us. Instead of "screw the poor!" - how about "screw the rich!"
I have to be half in the bag

before even looking at Hannity.


 


Well, you got it half right anyway
Obama does want you to think he wil rescue you from yourself because without him, you can't think for yourself. You need government darling.....they will pay your way in life and all you gotta do is sick there and look pretty and not do a darn thing!!!
your right...half way
He probably wasn't talking about a date with his wife as "government." you're right about that but it ends there. Since his date isn't government, it should not be coming out of my tax dollars.
LOL. That was almost witty...about HALF.

half the story
Refuted.
http://www.nrlc.org/ABORTION/pba/WSJletter111003.html
Try reading this one.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.
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As has half (or more) of California.
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More than half of U.S. docs want it, too.

This is from March of last year.  Maybe even more of them are in favor of it now.


"More than half of U.S. doctors now favor switching to a national health care plan and fewer than a third oppose the idea, according to a survey published on Monday."


http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN31432035



 


Half of U.S. still believes Iraq had WMD
Half of U.S. still believes Iraq had WMD

By CHARLES J. HANLEY, AP Special Correspondent Sun Aug 6, 7:43 PM ET

Do you believe in Iraqi WMD? Did
Saddam Hussein's government have weapons of mass destruction in 2003?


Half of America apparently still thinks so, a new poll finds, and experts see a raft of reasons why: a drumbeat of voices from talk radio to die-hard bloggers to the Oval Office, a surprise headline here or there, a rallying around a partisan flag, and a growing need for people, in their own minds, to justify the war in
Iraq.

People tend to become independent of reality in these circumstances, says opinion analyst Steven Kull.

The reality in this case is that after a 16-month, $900-million-plus investigation, the U.S. weapons hunters known as the Iraq Survey Group declared that Iraq had dismantled its chemical, biological and nuclear arms programs in 1991 under U.N. oversight. That finding in 2004 reaffirmed the work of U.N. inspectors who in 2002-03 found no trace of banned arsenals in Iraq.

Despite this, a Harris Poll released July 21 found that a full 50 percent of U.S. respondents — up from 36 percent last year — said they believe Iraq did have the forbidden arms when U.S. troops invaded in March 2003, an attack whose stated purpose was elimination of supposed WMD. Other polls also have found an enduring American faith in the WMD story.

I'm flabbergasted, said Michael Massing, a media critic whose writings dissected the largely unquestioning U.S. news reporting on the Bush administration's shaky WMD claims in 2002-03.

This finding just has to cause despair among those of us who hope for an informed public able to draw reasonable conclusions based on evidence, Massing said.
I watched about half of it. Very funny.

I don't watch the show often, but I always enjoy it when I do, so I might just start watching more.  I watched his comedy special on HBO the other night and laughed my butt off.


half the popultion of Phoenix

AZ - the state where Cindy Mc says you HAVE to have a small plane to travel, the roads are just dismal.


 


More than half of your first post was lies...sm
How do we know the rest of is true.

Sounds like hearsay, to me.
Obviously you skipped over half my post
I don't choose what a woman does with her body. But I know what MY God says about it and it is wrong, plain and simple. Therefore I am against it being passed. I'm sorry if that offends you.

Only about 1% of abortions are performed due to rape. 1%. And there is proven psychological evidence that most women who keep the baby have been successfully treated and are able to see the baby for what he or she is: an innocent victim. You cannot blame the child for an act that someone else has committed, and you can't approve homicide of an unborn child to make sure another human's mental health is okay.

Outside of rape and incest, abortion is just an easy answer to an inconvenient accident. Just like everything else in this nation. Let's find the easy answer. No one wants to take responsibility anymore.

Pretty soon we'll be "aborting" the elderly because they aren't worth caring for anymore and are "inconvenient". What a sad world we live in nowadays.


Too bad that over half the voters disagree with you.

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Oh geez -- my 401K is now LESS than half of
And the feds are now going to buy STOCK in failing companies with the bailout money.  Real intelligent.  Where's MY 'bailout' ?
Half price sale on gas
It has been surprisingly pleasant lately at the pump.
Oh well, half the people who voted for O have no
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But a physician half-way across the country.... sm
cannot. That is the whole point of a centralized computerized system. Just because your hospital currently has such a system in place, as many do, does not mean that is the system of the future. Obama wants the health care record to be portable, meaning it can be accessed from anywhere the patient may need care.
They voted for him because he was half white?
that is the stupidest thing I have ever read. And you speak for the majority? Get real.
Okay, then should they VOTE? My half-sister in
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... and half of them belong in JAIL.

Most of us with half a brain already knew this

Hate crimes bill.....what a joke it is in the first place, but most people who aren't on the homosexual bandwagon already knew that.  Now, at least a homosexual activist gets it!!


 


http://www.onenewsnow.com/Culture/Default.aspx?id=531184


 


 


Keeping the glass half full SM

isn't about any of the things you name.  It comes from inside, a peace of spirit and soul. It needs no outside influence except, in my case, my love for God and his for me.  My glass has always been half full.  And it always will be because He is with me always.


His web of half-truths is going to start unraveling.
His whole policy seems to be hide, deny, backtrack, CYA, deny some more, and confuse with a half-truths and misstatements that imply what he wants people to believe.  When he gets called on it, they say we never said that.  They didn't have to, they implied it until the cows came home.  What do you want to bet that when investigative hearings start, the whole story changes again?
And I suspect half of it will end when you return to school --
as you claim you will be doing soon (I hope).
Liberal rags do not represent at least half of the U.S.

You may base that on the fact that right now it's about 50/50 Obama versus McCain.  That doesn't mean that the liberal rags, liberal bloggers, MSNBC and the rest represent 50% of the people in our country.  Fortunately for the rest of us, there are democrafts who don't agree with the views of the liberal rags, with the tactics of the liberal bloggers, and with the extreme bias of a "news" organization such as MSNBC.  Most of the time when you can't document, it is because you are getting someone's OPINION, and not fact, and therefore, you cannot document.


Benjamin Franklin said “Believe NONE of what you hear and HALF of what you see.” sm
Everyone on this board should heed these very wise words, especially in this day and age of the internet.  No one on line is who they seem.  Behind the scenes, there are people in high and low places stirring the pot to make you believe the other party is not playing fair.  I just wish we could stick to the facts and the issues concerning all of us instead of petty personal attacks by both sides, but that would be too much to ask as many people look at these boards to get their entertainment and direct our attention away from what is really important. 
He DOES have a half-brother living in Kenya
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So what? Biden doesn't know the half of what Obama does....nm

It's funny how half of this thread just disappeared
Makes you wonder....
haha - like half the nation is planning on doing!
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Don't you wish that me and half the nation which shares this view
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My at-home pays half what my inhouse job did.
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Man! I spent only a half hour looking at that site!
I could have spent more time but I'm was limited to the half hour. This man spent a lot of time deciphering and examining the certificate. I wonder if they will call on him to testify (probably not).
that doesn't make him white...my son is half black
He's not a white man, I don't know why you would even bring that into the conversation.