Yeah, and you hate Sarah P, but love Hillary?
Posted By: You hate boys, girls, unless are liberals.nm on 2008-10-16
In Reply to: I'm a HATER, alright. I hate the ol' boy's club - in Washington. And I do mean OLD.
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Why do they hate Sarah Palin so?........sm
Hi there. Very thoughtful and intelligent questions you're asking. I'm going to post the following column I found, that explains this phenomenon very clearly, I think.
http://townhall.com/columnists/AndrewTallman/2008/09/09/why_do_they_hate_sarah_palin_so?page=full&comments=true
Why do they hate Sarah Palin so?
by Andrew Tallman
I assume it is unnecessary to answer the logically prior question of whether or not they hate Sarah Palin. The level of vitriol flung at her over the past week and a half by critics in every liberal outlet ranging from The New York Times to Air America is particularly awe-inspiring given that this is all the longer they’ve even known her name. Ordinarily, such hatred takes years to cultivate. The force and acceleration of their vehemence virtually demands psychoanalysis. Since this sport is in vogue, I’ll give my diagnostic skills a shot at the trophy.
Preface: There Is a Pathology
The natural first reaction of a Palin-hater to this column is to deny the hatred. They will say it’s her politics, her religion, or possibly the whiff of scandal some have managed to ladle upon her. But if they’re honest with themselves, they’ll have to admit three simple facts.
First, the reasons they give aren’t the reasons they hate. If they didn’t have these, they’d manufacture others. There’s an old story about a man asking to borrow his neighbor’s lawn mower and being told, “No, I’m making potato soup.” “What does that have to do with me borrowing your lawn mower?” the incredulous man replies. “Nothing, but if I don’t want to loan you my lawn mower, one excuse is just as good as another.” Likewise, Governor Palin is not hated because of whatever reasons they offer. These are afterthoughts to an animosity which is embarrassed to admit it was born prior to reason. Hence, refuting them will prove futile.
Second, even those who persist in asserting such reasons as their motive will have to admit that all of them put together still can’t justify the disproportionate vigor of their attacks upon her. To use an aging phrase, this is the politics of personal destruction; a nuclear response to what their own arguments admit is a merely conventional threat.
Third, no one can hate this deeply this quickly. Conservatives generally despise certain political figures such as Bill Clinton, Teddy Kennedy and John Paul Stevens. But it’s taken us years, sometimes decades to detest these people. Similarly for liberals, contempt only begins to describe their feelings toward George W. Bush, Rick Santorum, and Antonin Scalia. But, again, at least such a sentiment has developed over time. It took Sarah Palin less than a week to receive treatment these men have taken years to earn. Such an immediate mauling of someone’s character says far more about the predators than about their prey.
So, what explains this pathology? I have two mutually compatible theories.
Theory 1: The Cult of Personality
Barack Obama is the left’s messiah. Their hopes, their dreams and even their patriotism are at this point invested in him. He cannot be criticized. He cannot be joked about. And he most certainly cannot be mocked. All such response to him (perfectly normal with any other politician) is viewed as blasphemy rather than politics. Not only is the left salvifically invested in him, they secretly fear they have been too rash to the altar call. Calm reflection proves Barack Obama isn’t ready to be president yet, but who can resist the hope beyond hope that he’s more than just a golden voice reading a teleprompter?
So when little Sarah Palin comes along and castigates him with condescending satire, they react as any devastated schoolgirl with a crush would. Her speech stated every major flaw with his candidacy. Not just honestly, but with a Reagenesque comedic flair. And since their deepest fear is that everything she said about him is right, the only option to reconsidering their betrothal was to destroy her.
It’s pretty simple. If we disagree, you correct me. If I am silly, you ignore me. But if I articulate your own fears in attacking something you cherish irrationally, you excoriate me … as cover. As Robert Pirsig explained in his lovely novel on motorcycle maintenance, no one jumps up and down screaming that the sun will rise tomorrow. Highly emotional responses indicate fear and uncertainty, not the opposite.
Sarah Palin’s on-target reductio of Barack Obama turned their messiah into a joke, earning the very predictable treatment a heretic deserves. Disabusing people of a savored fantasy always does.
Theory 2: Her Non-Feminist Feminism
I used to marvel at the rudeness so often publicly shown to parents with many children. But then I saw how the very existence of such families exposes the guilt and self-doubt others feel about their own decisions to stop having children. The surest way to avoid dealing with these stifled concerns is to assault the character or intelligence of parents who dare to expose them with their large families.
So, too with Sarah Palin and the left. Her very life rebukes them.
She has five children, two of them after the age of 40. When her infant son was diagnosed with Down syndrome, she chose life. And when her own daughter was discovered pregnant, she helped her choose life, too. Without ever saying a word about being pro-life (to say it would have been superfluous), she demolished all the common arguments used in favor of abortion and family planning, totemic doctrines of the left.
But it’s more than just doctrine. It’s that so many people on the left have condoned abortions, helped others obtain abortions, or even had abortions themselves in the very same circumstances under which Sarah Palin chose life. Honest people are an affront to liars. Law-abiders are an affront to criminals. And the woman who has made pro-life “choices” is a stinging affront to modern feminism, which has spent decades trying to convince women that an unwanted pregnancy is like a disease and the unborn child something like a parasite.
They must demonize her because her choices so clearly condemn their own. Make no mistake, when your example disproves someone else’s deeply internalized rationalizations, they will try to destroy you. After all, the only other option would be to repent.
Conclusion
In “Beyond Good and Evil,” Nietzsche said, “Anyone who has looked deeply into the world may guess how much wisdom lies in the superficiality of men … let nobody doubt that whoever stands that much in need of the cult of surfaces must at some time have reached beneath them with disastrous results.” His critique of religion so perfectly fits probamaism that one is forced to conclude the latter is but a new flavor of the former.
There may be other pathologies at play here, but these explain both the left’s tsunamic response and why it struck last Thursday morning. It was the speech, stupid.
Free Sarah Palin! I love this. sm
I love what Campbell Brown said and I don't think you have to be a Dem or Rep to agree. Here is what Campbell had to say last night: (Yes, she is talking to Katie Couric tonight I think, or soon at least but still...)
"Tonight I call on the McCain campaign to stop treating Sarah Palin like she is a delicate flower that will wilt at any moment," said Brown. "This woman is from Alaska for crying out loud. She is strong. She is tough. She is confident. And you claim she is ready to be one heart beat away form the presidency. If that is the case, then end this chauvinistic treatment of her now. Allow her to show her stuff. Allow her to face down those pesky reporters... Let her have a real news conference with real questions. By treating Sarah Palin different from the other candidates in this race, you are not showing her the respect she deserves. Free Sarah Palin. Free her from the chauvinistic chain you are binding her with. Sexism in this campaign must come to an end. Sarah Palin has just as much a right to be a real candidate in this race as the men do. So let her act like one."
I hate to say it but I think if Hillary wins the nom
*sigh*
Love him or hate him? sm
Amanda, did you even read this article? Love and hate are emotions just as hope and change are concepts. That whole line of thinking is only part of what got Obama elected to office. He has been groomed for this for a long, long time and by the best con artists in politics. He is a pawn for Brzenzinski and Ross and Emanuel and the culmination of a long line of stage setting for the destruction of America.
Better grab your kool-aid and get a front-row seat because the second act, and probably the final act, is about to begin.
Yeah...ask Sarah Palin how well that works!
She is a major proponent of teaching abstinence and is now the grandmother of a child born out of wedlock to a teenage daughter.
Yeah, Hillary,
thanks for finally conceding after a 15-month battle. So now she's hoping for VP or for help with her campaign expenses? Is that what I heard?
And we have to love the sinner, even though we hate the sin. nm
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Yeah, poor Sarah and her 80% approval rating.
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It is not HATE, it is love of country and depression
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Oh, yeah. Love that guy. He's even
sticking his nose into our local court house on a case. I don't want to mention which one because it will cause a ruckus here, but the judges and prosecutor doesn't ever remember a governor sticking their nose in local courthouse business. I can't wait until he's out of here.
Another sickening thing is that Casey may be made the head of this new US healthcare reform. Watch out! We're really going to be in for it then.
Kick 'em all out.
Well, yeah! I definitely see the hate
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Yeah, some people have love of country. Some
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Yeah, I'd love to know your views on Israel, please tell us. nm
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Yeah, moochers love Obama, thinking they will get
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Yeah, you radiate love like a heat seeking missle. No thanks. nm
Love, love, love John Stewart. . .
the bit about the open microphone on McCain during the debate was brilliant!!! I laughed until I literally cried!! By the way, Michelle Obama was warm, intelligent, sincere and very much First Lady material!!!
Sarah Palin makes Sarah Palin look stupid!
The Democrats did not make Sarah Palin look stupid. Sarah Palin does a fine job of looking stupid without help from anyone. All she has to do is open her mouth!
I think it all shows that Christianity is valued with the love of the dollar, not the love of Christ
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I love democrats! I love most of the past democratic presidents (sm)
I would love for there to be a good democrat I could vote for. I want good leadership and I want change. But I truly believe to purposely ignore a symbol speaks volumes. He is not just asking the symbol to wait, he is ignoring it on purpose. Avoiding it on purpose. Why do you think that is? There is a reason. Can you not see it?
English not so good. Sad for you. So much hate. Life too short hate.
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Oh I see....you hate small town folks, you hate Christians...
and you hate the military...you are also coming into real clear view.
Sheesh, you not only hate Bush, you hate PEOPLE!
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've said before that you're leaving, but you and your goons can't sta
I love the class of liberals....just love it...
ignore the truth and attack personally. Shows a lot of tolerance.
"it tells me to love them as I would love myself"...(sm)
This must be why you so obviously love Muslims? 
You do realize that you contradict yourself on just about every other post you make? ROFL..
yeah, yeah, yeah.....what he failed to mention...
is that the Dems are responsible for the mortgage meltdown which is responsible for the wall street meltdown. Chris Dodd, Barney Frank...totally to blame. Blocked every attemmpt by Bush Admin and yes, McCain, to regulate fannie/freddie. Dems certainly have selective memories...convenient bouts of amnesia. lol.
They don't hate us because we are free, they hate us because...
We need to stop imposing the way we live on them. They don't hate us because of our freedom. That is absurd. When have you ever heard them say we hate you because you are free? Never. What they have been saying is "Don't tell us how we should live". "Don't tell us we need to have the same type of government that America has", and they also say "We don't need the Americans designing our own countries flag" and that is why they hate us. They are their own country. It is not right for us to go in and say you need to live the way we do, your government needs to be run the way ours is. How would we like it if they came and said "Were invading America and your going to conform to the way we live because "its' the right way" or "god has told me this is the way it's suppose to be". No, we wouldn't like it one bit. Every country lives differently. We need to stop dictating how other countries should live.
Hate mongers hate everything.
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So you not only hate gays, you also hate
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is that you Sarah?
Finished with your good friend "Charlie" already and now here to share your words of wisdom?
Go Sarah!!!! ....sm
If SNL is spoofing her, they must think she's a major contender.
Yippee.....
By the way, I haven't seen SNL since the early years, is it any good anymore? Have they spoofed Obama yet?
Or are they giving him a walk, as most liberal type show/media things are doing?
(I can't play this, as my flash player is old....oh well....I'm sure it was funny, in a derogatory type of way, if you ladies enjoyed it that much.....)
let Sarah
take his place in debate with Barack Obama.
Let Sarah be Sarah....sm
She's the bright ray of hope in this election. She's the one REAL person out there on either ticket.
If they just let Sarah be Sarah, she will just bowl over Joe Biden tomorrow night.
I bet she will too.
She's got the most common sense, and right now, we need someone who is just like us, representing us, in Washington.
I'd vote for her over McCain in a second....wish like heck she was at the top of the ticket, because she is, the real deal. No doubt in my mind whatsoever.
You mean like Sarah in the
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So Sarah will have a son-in-law...
...and a mother-out-law.
John McCain can't even bring himself to endorse her now, which I think is the funniest thing of all.
thanks Sarah
real patriotic idears you keep regurgitating to keep your name in the news.
Yes, and I believe Sarah is a least a US citizen.
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Sarah Palin
Sarah Palin has just announced her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant and will be marrying the baby's father!
Sarah Palin was asking because
the voters were concerned about the language in some of them and felt it inappropriate for their children. This was to help keep bad language away from children. Not get rid of them because a certain race, nationality, etc. wrote them. The Nazis burned books written by Jews. This is entirely different.
As for my supposed untruth about Obama being Muslim at one time:
Obama's Kenyan birth father: In Islam, religion passes from the father to the child. Barack Hussein Obama, Sr.
Obama's Indonesian family: His stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, was also a Muslim. In fact, as Obama's half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng explained to Jodi Kantor of the New York Times: "My whole family was Muslim, and most of the people I knew were Muslim." An Indonesian publication, the Banjarmasin Post reports a former classmate, Rony Amir, recalling that "All the relatives of Barry's father were very devout Muslims."
The Catholic school: Nedra Pickler of the Associated Press reports that "documents showed he enrolled as a Muslim" while at a Catholic school during first through third grades. Kim Barker of the Chicago Tribune confirms that Obama was "listed as a Muslim on the registration form for the Catholic school."
Koran class: In his autobiography, Dreams of My Father, Obama relates how he got into trouble for making faces during Koranic studies, thereby revealing he was a Muslim, for Indonesian students in his day attended religious classes according to their faith.
Mosque attendance: Obama's half-sister recalled that the family attended the mosque "for big communal events." Watson learned from childhood friends that "Obama sometimes went to Friday prayers at the local mosque." Barker found that "Obama occasionally followed his stepfather to the mosque for Friday prayers." One Indonesia friend, Zulfin Adi, states that Obama "was Muslim. He went to the mosque. I remember him wearing a sarong" (a garment associated with Muslims).
This along with his association with sketchy people including Ayers and his 20-year attendance to a church that promotes hates messages.....I feel I am justly right to be concerned about Obama and have reason to not trust him one iota.
Cool....go Sarah!!! sm
http://freedomeden.blogspot.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-and-charlie-gibson.html
Go Sarah and Joe!!! Go McCain...All the way to the
Go ahead and call 'em gimmicks if y'all want.
They're the real deal, and a lot of real Americans embrace them.
Sarah Palin says:
“And that’s cruel and it’s mean-spirited, it’s immature, it’s unprofessional, and those guys are jerks, if they came away with it taking things out of context and then tried to spread something on national news. It is not fair and not right.” Hmmm...
Who is Sarah and what are idears
My actual name is Mary. I have never used Mary and the last time I posted something on this board was the middle of December. Think around the 15th or 16th when I replied to someone, and the last time I wrote an original message was the beginning of December. It would serve you well to think before you acuse someone of something.
You don't like my post, fine, that's one thing. But to acuse someone of doing whatever it is your acusing me of, well that's just a bit arrogant on your part. Your reply was a bit confusing too. Were you cutting me down because you don't like that I don't use my real name (never have and never will - get over it) or you didn't like my idea. And if I wanted to keep my name in the news, wouldn't I be posting with same name over and over and over.
I particularly like the idea of the US dividing into separate countries. Especially with a lot of the posters on this board. I've never seen so many people who are willing to destroy our country and everything our country was founded upon and I would prefer not to live in the same country as they do without actually having to move. I don't agree in socialism. They do. Therefore by keeping their president and his socialistic viewpoints they can have him, love him, worship him, and dance around in circles every day while he's in office. I'd rather have a president that shares the same values as a lot of people like me do.
So...back to my original idea. It would serve you well not to assume things from now on, as you know what they say about people who assume.
Who is Sarah and what are idears
My actual name is Mary. I have never used Mary and the last time I posted something on this board was the middle of December. Think around the 15th or 16th when I replied to someone, and the last time I wrote an original message was the beginning of December. It would serve you well to think before you acuse someone of something.
You don't like my post, fine, that's one thing. But to acuse someone of doing whatever it is your acusing me of, well that's just a bit arrogant on your part. Your reply was a bit confusing too. Were you cutting me down because you don't like that I don't use my real name (never have and never will - get over it) or you didn't like my idea. And if I wanted to keep my name in the news, wouldn't I be posting with same name over and over and over.
I particularly like the idea of the US dividing into separate countries. Especially with a lot of the posters on this board. I've never seen so many people who are willing to destroy our country and everything our country was founded upon and I would prefer not to live in the same country as they do without actually having to move. I don't agree in socialism. They do. Therefore by keeping their president and his socialistic viewpoints they can have him, love him, worship him, and dance around in circles every day while he's in office. I'd rather have a president that shares the same values as a lot of people like me do.
So...back to my original idea. It would serve you well not to assume things from now on, as you know what they say about people who assume.
Does this mean Sarah gets another raise?...LOL
*Unlike President George W. Bush, who threatened to veto the two bills when they came up in the last session of Congress, President-elect Barack Obama has embraced them.*
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090109/ap_on_go_co/pay_equity
I can't wait to see who all opposes this bill. I hope they plaster them all over the news.
Sarah was pointed out....(sm)
because a) it was funny; b) she is a female; and c) she herself just got a raise (by a committee she formed for just that purpose) just since the election while Alaska is taking a big hit financially because the price of oil went down.
Sarah is still campaigning...(sm)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jan/28/sarah-palin-political-action-committee
I soooo hope she runs in 2012. How about Rush/Palin 2012.....ROFL....
So what if Sarah complains, BB.
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One more reason I like Sarah Palin....
....I betcha she makes a mean batch of cookies...
(and I won't say who doesn't, but I'm sure you all know)
I just read that Sarah Palin sm
sued Bush, etc., over making the Polar bears endangered species because it will hurt oil drilling. Has anyone else heard or read this? (Maybe it is old news and has been discussed here. I have been out of town and thankfully aware from my computer for the last day and a half.) If this is true than I am appalled. I guess she is not so new the whole for big oil thing and all. Most hunters and fishermen that I know want to help protect the environment.
I know she is anti-abortion, but did not know until just recently that she is also anti-abortion for cases of rape and incest. I think that is very extreme. Though, to be quite honest, I do think in most rape cases you are given the morning after pill.
The more I read and learn, the less I am liking. I was kind of excited at first.
If it is so important, where was it before Sarah Palin...
entered the race? Come on. You are trying to somehow add validity to making a 17-year-old political fodder. Now, after the cat is out of the bag, the political spin is being put on it. Go ahead and put the focus there...no one is going to be fooled by this. People who engage it in are still going to look like what they are.
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