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You mean the ones the dems have had control over the past 2 years

Posted By: me on 2009-03-07
In Reply to: They're busy trying to fix the mess the House Of Greed - built, and staying off forums like this one.

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Dems have already felt that way for the past 8 years...
Get over youselves. It's not fatal.
The DEMS ruined our economy for the past 2 years.
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sam's right on this one. Mainly the dems in power through the past several...sm
years have abused their power and positions, and taken advantage of the situation.

While I believe a few of the republicans stood by and let it happen, they are not the majority in this.

Rich liberal democrats on Wall street and in Congress/Senate, not to mention Bill Clinton and his cronies, are the ones that bear the most blame.


And some of them are crying the loudest blaming George Bush, when it's their own fault.




Sam has posted the names and dates and all. It is the truth. Research it yourselves. Just because you don't like what she has to say, means that it's wrong.







I disagree. Since the dems got control, nothing
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Dems are in control in Congress
If you're looking for someone to blame, you're going to have a short walk to the nearest mirror for voting those boys into power.

Dems never had control of congress.....
With Cheney's vote and the veto pen - but that's convenient to ignore, isn't it? All about family values? right? No child left behind? Sure, uh-huh. Talk about swallowing the Kool-Aid - all that Rovian campaigning propaganda brought Kool-Aid to new heights.
The dems obviously didnt have ENOUGH control, or else
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Yes, I have seen in the past few days the kind of party dems like to throw...
thanks, but no thanks. And what does Sarah Palin have in common with George Bush other than both are Republicans? None. But of course, there is that open-minded thing again...
Look to the leader of USA for past 8 years GW BUSH nm
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No, we are IN the toilet, and guess who has been in office the past 8 years.......sm
SELECTIVE AMNESIA??
Nope - who's been pouring the Kool--Aid for the past 8 years?

Better to be right than look stoopid. If you check other posts, you will REMEMBER why the pub faithful were accused of drinking the Kool-Aid.......


Make that 6 years of Repub control &

So enlighten us, I love to learn, the past 8 years were a hard lesson indeed.....nm
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Dems are right there on video few years ago saying
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Bush = 6 years before Dems took
a tiny barely majority in Congress, but not enough to override his vetos, and the damage was already done by then, so yes, BUSH and the republicans are completely to blame.
The last 8 years have been the time for dems to be mad
Now it's the pubs' turn. And honestly, you can hardly blame them - look who was in the White House the last 8 years - that was the best the republican party had to offer? And then they go on a spending spree that until now had been unprecedented in our country - Bush never met a bill he didn't like, especially if it had a bunch of zeros in it.

Now they've lost power everywhere in Washington and with many of thier constituents and they're mad. They should be! Let them whine and have their poor me parties - in the end, they'll come back a stronger and more united party - the dems did it after Clinton - the pubs will do it after Obama.

It's just a natural life cycle in Washington.
They couldn't be more bitter and nasty than Dems for the last 8 years. nm

Conservatives are for control over their own children and less control by govt

you want it both ways, it is dem fault with control, and when they had no control
it was their fault as well. yes GB did not get anything done, no deregulation, no war, no shift of power to the corporations, nothing.

so you are saying he was utterly incompetent?
How about if some of us are using birth control to be responsible and control.......sm
the size of our families, as almost every family has to do? And believe me, I tried the "rhythm" method, and I have my beautiful son, Alex, as a response. And I adore him, and thankfully we found ways to afford him, care for him in every way, etc., but some sexual aides and birth control are actually used by Christian couples who have been married for 28 years, gong on 29 in May. sex is also important in a loving marriage, not just to "do whatever feels good." There is nothing shameful in married, committed sex.
Control? If you mean, control of putting our country
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For this you have to wait at least 3 years and 8 months , maybe 7 years and 8 mohths...nm
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Not quite- 2 years Catholic, 2 years Muslim. NM
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They certainly have in the past. sm
but their headline didn't intentionally mislead like the one posted above. Oh, let's face it, the media is just not what it used to be.  I don't trust them at all.
from the past
I am so-o-o sick of the party bickering, finger pointing and verbal barbs blaming the other guy, I am remembering a line from my past "Alfred E. Newman for president." Back then it was a joke but it is starting to sound good again!
That's because most do not look at his past tax
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You mean once we look past the
seas of humanity jumping for joy on November 4th, the rafters-busting crowds that are descending on DC for the inauguration and the hordes in the global bleachers cheering him on? Four years is sufficient time to build a slam dunk of a track record but in the absence of worthy GOP opponents, all he has to do is stay alive between now and then to get re-elected. Personally, I hope that they put SP, Hasselbach and/or Coulter up there, the dream team of certain defeat. Sure doesn't look like they have much more than that to offer at the moment.
Yes, definitely ignore the past if it does not...
fit your agenda. It clouds nothing. Somehow I cannot see you blasting JFK for Viet Nam. Just cannot see that happening...though you swear you would. You just can't bring yourself to be disguated about something that is not happening NOW? Wanna talk about Carter and Iran? Oh no, we can't do that, that was in the PAST.

Well hang in there piglet...as soon as Congress pulls funding, the troops are brought home because of it, Viet Nam revisited, the horror that will become Iraq when that happens making NOW look like a walk in the park...you will be able to ignore THAT as the past also.

Must be nice.
There is nothing in McCain's past...
of radical leftwing socialist politics. Nor does he think there should be absolutely no restrictions on abortion, up to and including allowing babies who survive abortion to be left to die. Tell me...how do you reconcile your Christian principles with that? Do you think the Jesus you know would condone that? For ANY reason?
we have now gone way past rude..
to downright disgusting. It probably also take a MENSA brain to call someone else pathetic, little, loser because they don't think the same as you. Give it a rest already people.
No, I was responding to the past above yours, sorry,
did I get it wrong? yikes - I meant that for the 'first of all' post...
I have felt in the past...
that I was being attacked for saying something that was never really meant to be offensive. I feel that we should all be able to act like adults and refrain from personally attacking anyone. I just thought that the response was unnecessarily nasty. I hope you have a great evening! I hope the other person does, as well.
I think JM was up past his bedtime.

Past and future
Stop dwelling in the PAST.
Look into the FUTURE.
The last past 8 years did not work for anybody.
What we need is change. REAL change.
Summon it up, we do not need
your pagelong lectures. Who has time for this?
The election is tomorrow, thanks God.
Go, Obama!
Can't live in the past - have to look to

The PAST says a lot about what you are today.
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past that point
http://www.youtube.com/user/visionvictory



It's not the past administration?
What color are your eyes? Brown? Thought so.
They can't see past anything..... easily led!
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and he wants to control it all.....
the banks, the insurance industry, the automotive industry, the health care industry, the finance sector, and our entire lives. You call that strength. I call that dictatorship.
Gun Control
John Lott, Jr., a Yale social economist, did the largest study on gun control laws covering all 3000 counties in the US. His findings astounded the author himself, who had reviewed many other studies - all of which had been extremely small - that suggested guns don't deter crime.

The title of Lott's published study tells his findings in a nutshell: "More Guns, Less Crime". It's an exhaustive book filled with much more data than most of us would ever care to see, but the findings were unequivocal: the more guns there are in the hands of law-abiding citizens, the lower the rate of gun crimes committed against them.

On the strength of what he found, Lott, who had never even owned a gun or fired one except one time at a summer youth camp - purchased a handgun and got a license to carry it. Consequently, the gun-banning crazies who howled bloody murder at his research (but who haven't been able to mount a single credible counterargument in the intervening years) called him a "gun nut".
But you don't do that. You only discuss the democratic past.

In order to smear it.


No talk about the 12 prior years of Reagan and Bush.


U.S. and past civilian deaths

U.S. and British forces bombed Dresden, Germany with the death of approximately 225,000 civilians, and it was intended as a purely civilian bombing. 


From a history publication (with references to LeMay also made by Robert McNamara in The Fog of War):


When news concerning the bombing of Dresden got out, it led to an uproar that had to be quieted by cynical denials that this was U.S. or British policy. But it was, and it continued, now against Japan. In March 1945, more than 100,000 Japanese were killed in a firebombing raid on Tokyo as “canals boiled, metal melted, and buildings and human beings burst spontaneously into flames” (John Dower, War Without Mercy: Race & Power in the Pacific War [Pantheon Books, 1986]). By August 1945, 58 Japanese cities had been firebombed and the bomber commander, General Curtis LeMay, had to curtail his raids because he had run out of incendiary bombs. After the war, Le May remarked “I suppose if I had lost the war, I would have been tried as a war criminal.” Instead he was promoted, eventually heading the Strategic Air Command, where he advocated a pre-emptive nuclear “first strike” against the Soviets. During the Vietnam War, Le May notoriously called to “bomb them [the North Vietnamese] back into the Stone Age.”


It is nice to look to the future and not the past.
You are quite wrong about my stance on Vietnam. Don't make the presumption that you know me at all.

One thing that I do know is that you cannot change the past. You want to bog yourself down with useless information knock yourself out. Our government tends to not pay attention to those details of the past in the way they operate today. If they did, Bush would have never invaded Iraq. Perhaps you are making your speeches to the wrong audience? You will never convince a liberal that war is just.

As I have stated before, I am strictly anti-war, no matter who, what, where, and why. War does nothing but fund hate and line pockets of men who profit from them and kills the innocent as an after thought, and it's excused because, hey, that's war isn't it?

The longer our troops stay in Iraq, the more hate it is going to foster. This military pseudo occupation has to stop and the humanitarian effort needs to start, period.

Or better yet, why don't you go there and explain to the Iraqi people and our military men and women who are doing their fourth or fifth tour and tell them why they are still there. There's your audience, try and convince them.


Umm...2003...isn't that the PAST, piglet....
I thought you were interested in NOW. :-)
No need to go past the Malkin byline.
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Look at his past political career....
while he was an organizer in Chicago he pushed through legislation with earmarks beneficial for his benefactors...Tony Rezko and the Daley political machine, because that is what it takes to get ahead in Chicago politics. He made a somewhat meteoric rise...and that only happens when you have the right kind of political support and you repay that support.

One of the first things he did as senator was steer over a million dollars in earmarks to his wife's employer...who had just previous to that DOUBLED her salary.

He has a long-standing relationship with William Ayers...a man who hates this country. Among his advisors are people on record as saying Hugo Chavez is a great champion of Democracy.

That is what I am talking about regarding his history. He is not going to change anything. He is a consummate politician, the most liberal senator in the senate, to the left of Ted Kennedy even. It will be politics as usual. He personifies Washington politics as usual, and so does his running mate...been there 30 years.

Sorry...I see past the bio the media has created and look at his political career. The proof is in the pudding, so to speak.

I invite you to get and read the book "The Case Against Barack Obama." It lays it all out there for you with verifiable facts about the earmarks, the Daley machine, William Ayers, the whole thing.

But only if you are interested in both sides. I am not trying to fight with you. Just offering a source.

Have a good night!
There has been a big swing in past few days of
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I would not put it past an extremist republican to put something...sm
like that out there and make it look like the democrats had something to do with it. Anyone who truly had the democratic party at heart would never think of lowering themselves to these kinds of tactics.
The truth about his past associations....
would be a good start.
Ran this past my brother who is a lawyer and...sm
a republican I might add (much to my chagrin) and he said it is a frivolous lawsuit. He added, which I already knew, it does not matter where he was born, who his father was, who he was adopted by, or where he went to school. His mother is an American citizen and he is therefore an American citizen, period. This is all just smoke and mirrors, lies, diversions from the real issues.