And those of different faith are probably praying
Posted By: for you to find the "true" one too. on 2009-02-12
In Reply to: I pray for all those people - shelly
Everyone, regardless of their personal religious beliefs, is worshipping the "true" God, the one that is "true and living" to them.
No religion is better or "truer" and more "living" than another.
Your creator is "true and living" to you. Someone else's creator might be just as "true and living" to them.
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I didn't talk down your faith but your faith
Get over yourself already. He shows the kindness and tolerance of a true Christian and not all the hating and intolerance like you and a lot of people here. Just because you are a Christian doesn't make you any better than anyone else
Yes, praying to keep... sm
WITCHES away and help her with her political career.
I guess it's not a big deal if you think witches are a big cause of all your problems (as her pastor does...) He's gone on witch hunts in Africa, *literally* calling some poor innocent women witches and driving them out of their villages. It's madness.
wonder WHO you are praying to?
A god who supports abortion, and even letting a child born alive die for lack of medical care? The Almighty God does not support same.
Appreciate that. I'm praying for our leadership
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praying for our leaders
we are admonished to pray for our leaders ...sort of a political love your enemies :-) please do not forget to pray for and support our third party candidates as well - brave men and women have not shed blood for this country so that it can be "ruled" by one party masquerading as two. we are in a homeland security crisis - our own Wall Street is committing domestic financial terrorism, exactly what we were warned that foreign terrorists would do. why are we being protected from our "enemies, both foreign and domestic"?? the corruption of our financial stability is treasonous, and the names of the traitors are known.
What's so scary about it? The man was just praying
for her. 
praying/wishing.........
Well, I had an uncle that was quite colorful to say the least but he truly believed God had the last word in everything. When he heard someone say they "wished", he would tell them to wish in one hand and pee in the other and see which one fills up quicker, basically saying wishing has nothing to do with believing. Believing is having faith, faith in things you cannot see.
they are frightening but I just keep praying
and praying we can get this over with soon so people can reuinte and calm down. Too many people are way over-anxious to heed these calls of hatred, violence, war mongering. This hate has to stop before the end of the world is literally forced on us.
Then why are you PRAYING for Obama, with no
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They say it takes one to know one. I think we'd all better do a little praying. n/m
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Don't lecture me on praying and you need
to take this topic to the Faith board. How dare you question whether I pray or not. You insult those by saying that because you prayed this is who God chose to be in the white house. That is a total insult to the people who prayed otherwise. This is the same attitute that I get from my aunt - well you must be praying wrong because my prayers were answered and yours were not. Tell that the the priests, bishops, reverands and all the other spiritual leaders.
Take your religious overtones to the Faith board that is what that board is there for. Tell all of them on the Faith board that God chose Obama because you prayed and that is who was chosen. I think you'll hear otherwise (but that's probably why you posted here instead of there).
yes, thank you, everyone is praying for me and it is really helping....nm
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Thank you so much for your care! And I will be praying for you....sm
I know well from my hospital work what CF is like....you are RIGHT to go on SSDI, if you do not deserve it, especialy with all of your work history, NO ONE does. And I have a friend with cancer who filed for SSDI; her lawyers told her that they always turn you down the first time, but the second time, if you have the medical records, you get through, and she did, she also could not type and had low energy, she will be on varying forms of chemo for much of the future. People who do not have a serious, chronic, ongoing, life-altering illness (which by the way, both our illnesses can be fatal, and I well remember the pancreatitis pain, I would rather have 10 more kids natural!), they can't get it....you are so sweet for your concern, write me anytime if you want a "sister" to talk with, and I honestly will be praying for your health AND your finances. God Bless!!!!!!!!
I have been praying about this all week-
end. I knew we were not going to let them take that good Captain ashore! I was horrified earlier today when I heard that it was the WH holding up a decision to do anything (should have known Obama thought he could *talk* to those pirates! or whatever his inexperience was costing us again).
I really don't care about the court of world opinion, and I am sure you are right. I am just thankful that the Captain was strong enough and brave enough to escape again and our Navy Seals and other military were able to rescue him without injury. I just hate that it took as long as it did to get him back safe.
And, yes, I am very curious to see how Obama and his elite followers are going to take credit for this one. Especially after apologizing for our arrogance all last week.
I'm praying for you and your dark soul.
Praying for his safe return....nm
Praying, trusting and respecting leaders?
I'm curious as to why one would consider this a viable option for change. Maybe I'm taking the remark out of context? No one just "deserves" respect. You earn that. It is not an entitlement. Neither is trust. Nothing is really, except for basic human decency. An example would be our soldiers. They earn their respect....most of them anyway. Our leaders are another story entirely.
Kicking and screaming and ranting is part of dissent, not only a right, but a responsibility. Folks need to have a look at our Declaration of Independence. Seriously.
I am praying that Obama wins this election
I do NOT want a president/VP that condones racism, hate filled rhetoric, anti-american views. Palin supports the Alaska Independence Group and they are anti-government and want a separate america and now Palin and McCain are basically encouraging the same thing. Obama brings unity and diversity and I am glad that he is running. What a breath of fresh air. I dont care about what anyone here has to say about the rumors of this and that concerning Obama. They have all been started and expounded upon by McCain/Palin campaign and they are lies. And WHY is it okay to give the wealthy the breaks in this world and that is an acceptable republican concept but as soon as someone says they are going to look out for the little guy and SPREAD THE WEALTH of the ecomony evenly, they are suddenly a socialist? Did McCain NOT approve the bailout plan that is buying STOCK into our banking system? Did McCain NOT approve the plan for the goverment to own half of America's mortgages? Dont talk to me about socialism McCain until you look at yourself. And by the way, people try to associate Acorn with Obama and voter registration fraud. What about the GOP intimidating people to change their party and telling them they HAVE to change their party in order to vote for a sexual predator law????? That is voter fraud and McCain is the GOP.
I am praying for Obama too. I join you in prayer. nm
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We are all praying for Obama and He/She will answer our prayers
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That's awful! Praying all those held will be released safely...
they are saying a woman and child have been released, and that is a good thing...praying this will end with no innocent folks being hurt.
Faith. sm
There was a poster on this board not too long ago of the Jewish faith. He was here to discuss the situation in Israel. He was hounded from this board ruthlessly. And not by conservatives.
Faith
I am not here to discuss Israel, just replying to an abortion post. I really don't care if I am hounded by anyone. Happens all the time :-)
I have faith
and am not ashamed to express it. Seems to me democrates place their hand on the bible just like rebublicans when taking the oath of office. Do you wonder about that too?
I think it does but I do have faith there are
good people out there too like you. So thank you for saying that. I tune in to CNN a lot of it has come up a few times that it matters. It is just depressing to me that it does still matter.
take care.
Keep the faith. No one knows what is going,,,sm
to happen with the economy or in the world over the next few months. At least we have a glimmer of hope with Obama.
Got that right, but keep the faith.
we can get through anything. We will come out in a much better place if we simply get our collective acts together and realize that change is coming (and I DON'T mean the campaign slogan) because it has to. WE have a choice. We can take charge of the situation and face those challenges as a united front or stay sidelined and wait for our leaders to show us the way. Clearly, I know which side of that decision I come down on.
According to your faith...(sm)
Christians were at one point persecuted, and they pushed and pushed until they got their way. I guess it was okay to do that back then.
Yes, I am very derogatory about faith. sm
Thank you for noticing. Let me respond.
You wrote:
>>yet I think it takes much more "faith" in a ridiculous theory that a one-cell amoeba crawled out of a mucky ocean somewhere and through "evolution" became man. You can't "prove" that, scientists can't "prove" that, but you believe it...because somebody said and it wrote it down...sound like the Bible? lol. That too is "faith." >>
Well, first of all you're mistaken. Scientists can prove evolution and have. The only people left still trying to deny evolution are doing so because it challenges or threatens their religious beliefs. For the rest of the world it's clear there is overwhelming evidence for biologic evolution and natural selection as the way that life developed and continues to develop (or become extinct...) on Earth. Please, read up on it. Fossils. Dinosaurs. It's facinating.
Note that I'm not talking about the *origin* of life, about how it all get started. Neither science or religion can answer that question. Religion says God made everything but it doesn't answer the question of who or what made God. And evolution doesn't answer the question of how the universe and our planet came to exist in the first place, just how life evolved here on Earth. (Though I think it's entirely possible science will eventually be able to answer this question.)
Second, what you wrote is not a valid arguement because religion and science are not on equal footing. They're two completely different things. You're trying to compare apples and oranges. Let me give you a nice long quote from one of my favorite authors, Richard Dawkins (which should come as no surprise to you) because he explains it far more eloquently than I can:
'(Religious) fundamentalists know they are right because they have read the truth in a holy book and they know, in advance, that nothing will budge them from their belief. The truth of the holy book is an axiom, not the end product of a process of reasoning. The book is true, and if the evidence seems to contradict it, it is the evidence that must be thrown out, not the book. By contrast, what I, as a scientist, believe (for example, evolution) I believe not because of reading a holy book but because I have studied the evidence. It really is a very different matter. Books about evolution are believed not because they are holy. They are believed because they present overwhelming quantities of mutually buttressed evidence. In principle, any reader can go and check that evidence. When a science book is wrong, somebody eventually discovers the mistake and it is corrected in subsequent books. That conspicuously doesn't happen with holy books.'
Now to your next question:
>>And I do not understand why you have to protest against something so strongly that you feel does not exist. Why would you bother? Why does someone having a life-changing experience bother you so much?>>
The part that bothered me was not someone having a life-changing experience. What bothers me is religion. I should think that was clear. What irritated me was the comment made in the post about athiests. It was an opinion presented as fact. That irritated me enough to cause me to respond. (BTW, did you read the whole thread, or just that part? We were talking about the bible.)
You also asked why I would bother to protest about something I don't believe exists. Are you kidding me? Look at the board we're on. It's a political board. I don't believe God exists, but religion sure does and I don't want its influence in our government. I don't have time to list all the reasons I have for protesting, but that's probably the biggest - the fact that I don't want to live in a theocracy. I don't want a president who believes God talks to him and tells him what to do, for example. I want religion to stay out of our goverment, at every level. This country is not only about freedom OF regligion, it's about freedom FROM religion.
I SO agree and we are not of the same faith
I do not think Chronicles is in my bible - I have to go check that....but regardless, I totally agree with you. It says in my bible something like when chyt hits fan, it's gonna happen from the inside out.....this, to me, would be IT. I'm so not voting for him......nothign really against him, per se, but he's saying he's gonna fix every single problem in the USA - well, our economy sux....so where is the money coming from? Rhetorical question bears no answer - because it's going to come from us. Another thing - he does not have the amount of experience (governmental and the rest of it) for me to be comfortable with him as president. he ain't no JFK who came from a HUGE heavy background of experience(s). No offense meant to anyone but personally, I hope he loses - and Michelle said a month ago or two, *we are only going to do this once, and if we don't win, we are not going through this again* - I'm so praying for that to occur. y opinion, please no flames.....to each his/her own about who they want in office. 
I'd prefer someone than anyone who was running for this....but that's not gonna happen, unfortunately!!
We shall see. I never put much faith in blogs...
but, perhaps those who go to Obama will be replaced by those who come to McCain from the other side. Sorry...nothing will dampen this for me today. :)
I person of faith
who pubically ridiculed the Bible in a speech. A man who has sketchy associations. A man who attended a school in Indonesia were his school records list his religion as muslim and yet he denies ever being a muslim. A man who allowed his children to be baptized and attend a church where the pastor preached hate messages. A man who supports partial birth abortions......
Please excuse me while I vomit!
Isn't that what's known as 'blind faith'?
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Blind faith.....
In a way it is. I have faith that God is there for me. That doesn't mean things are sugar and honey all the time, because they're definitely not.
Jesus ask of to just have the faith of a mustard seed. He is asking us to have no more faith than that of the size of a mustard seed, which is meniscule, and you will be surprised where that will take you. You know, we are asked to ask questions of God, to seek him, and ask Him to prove Himself. What better way for God to show us his love than to ask Him to prove himself?
You might just see great things happen in your life.
Having respect for faith all around?
I do. Faith and religion, two different things. I respect everyone's right to pray. I just don't think it should be made into a political issue like it has been done on this board. If it was truly a prayer request, why wasn't it on the prayer request board and the faith board?
I too do not put much faith in polls.
Did these polls have John Kerry ahead at this time during the last election. They also showed the Nixon was ahead of Kennedy. We will find out when we find out. Just go vote for who you think is best and hope for the best.
Who put faith in what government?
Who put faith in what government? I for one put NO faith in Bush from day one....he was a disastrous governor in the Lone Star, and I knew by the time he got finished with America and Americans, that we would barely be able to recognize it. You are right. The shrub did inherit at least something he should have been able to work with, but evidently it was beneath his pay grade to pay attention to such things since he had wars to wage.
Obama wants to restore a little balance...another thing the shrub monkeyed around with...especially his notorious distain for judicial powers and addiction to executive privilege. We need to take out that generic "government" reference and replace it with republicans failed us. The more power they get, the more they will fail us. Voters get that now.
Why are you lying? Obama wants stricter gun controls. He cannot take your precious guns away from you without a constitutional amendment. Defend yourselves against what? You really are a paranoid bunch, aren't you? Uh, oh....your argument just fell apart. So I ask again, can anybody explain Reagan's rambling incoherence?
Oh ye of little faith. Go to the top of the page.
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Right. Why cant he have faith in the people rather
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THIS IS NOT THE FAITH BOARD.
This is the POLITICS BOARD.
No, it's called faith
and you really have to have an open mind for that. ;-)
I actually don't really care what his faith is...
and I don't care whether or not he carries on an 8 year tradition--that is between him and his God. What I don't understand is why the big announcement. If you don't care to do it, don't do it, but why make a big deal of announcing that you don't care to hold a prayer. It is almost as silly as making a big deal about eating at a burger joint.
you are still placing faith in what you sm
have done and not the finished work of Christ on the cross. You are not your own "god" which is where you are placing yourself. If you have not accepted Jesus as your Savior you will be told "depart from me ye workers of iniquity, I never knew you."
The "christian religions" that have rejected the teachings of he** will also be held to account. Again its not about religion but about salvation which is contained in the Bible, the Holy, innerrent word of God.
I pray you reconsider.
You don't know me or my faith - so don't assume
And looks like the saying is true about people who assume things.
Please see faith board....nm
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You seem very derogatory about faith, my friend...
yet I think it takes much more "faith" in a ridiculous theory that a one-cell amoeba crawled out of a mucky ocean somewhere and through "evolution" became man. You can't "prove" that, scientists can't "prove" that, but you believe it...because somebody said and it wrote it down...sound like the Bible? lol. That too is "faith."
And I do not understand why you have to protest against something so strongly that you feel does not exist. Why would you bother? Why does someone having a life-changing experience bother you so much? You might want to examine where that comes from. Perhaps you are not as seated in your nonbelief as the poster is in her belief?
Just asking.
They are really kickin it up over there on the faith forum
I am sure they would love to have you!
Worship should be on the faith board
Obama worship should go to the faith board - what part of that don't you understand - it's pretty clear. We have a faith board for worship talk.
Probably because he never left his original faith
but only stated he was Christian to acquire more votes.
The people who leave that faith know the consequences and some live in fear the rest of his life.
Never believe he changed to begin with.
That is contradictory to what our faith teaches
You are asking us to only follow part of our faith by keeping our "religion personal". That is contradictory of what our Lord told us to do, so now you are treading on my right to follow my Lord.
Christianity is not a "blind faith". That just goes to show your lack of understanding. But since no matter what I say you will not concede to any points, this conversation has ceased to productive.
You misunderstand the nature of faith.
Faith (by which I mean true faith) is not a child's game, nor is it the idle pasttime of an adult.
Anyone who comes to the point of faith will quickly discover that what he always thought about faith before was quite wrong.
He will discover that the commandment to be child-like (trusting) has nothing to do with being childISH (silly) and, further, that trying to be child-like is the hardest thing he has ever done.
He will discover that faith is in many ways simple, but rarely easy.
He will discover that faith, far from amounting to ritualistically following a set of rules after the manner of a zombie or a slave, demands every bit of thinking ability he can muster.
You seem to feel the need to belittle people of faith, and I can't help but wonder why? Your hostility doesn't harm them in the least, and only closes you off from opportunities for discovery about a very important part of life that I don't think you really know very much about. Perhaps, never having been to the Louvre, you would refrain from scoffing at those who have been there and can say something about it first-hand.
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