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Much scarier would be government decisions based on God.

Posted By: Running on MT on 2009-02-11
In Reply to: Wouldn't that be a scary thought? No God in their - decisions for our country! nm

Keep religion out of government and leave it in the churches where it belongs!


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Government should stay out of those decisions
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Fact Based or Faith Based Policies...sm
Click watch video in the link.

Most impressive statement is how the Bush administration has gotten away from fact based policy making.
Far scarier that you would not.
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Not really sure which one is scarier.

I don't like either one.  I'm neither republican or democratic.  I'm rather in the middle of the road and pick the best person I think no matter what.  However, I'm really not sure which is the best person.  I think right now....both candidates suck.  There really isn't a better way to put it than that.  As for Obama....him wanting to sit down and talk to terrorist leaders, etc.......terrorists don't talk....that is why they are called terrorists.  They blow crap up and then cheer about it.  What makes Obama think he will bring about world peace here when we are dealing with people like that?  I mean really.  However, at the same time, I don't want our troops over in Iraq forever either. 


I think both candidates are blowing smoke up our butts with their plans about this whole gas price stuff.  Government can't change the price of oil.  However, they can get rid of some of the red tape and let us start drilling for oil around our coasts instead of getting everything from other countries as well as looking for an alternative fuel source......and ethanol is not it!!!  Whoever was the moron who decided to take a food source and try to make fuel out of it.....you have jacked up prices of all of our groceries, meat, etc. 


Universal healthcare is not a good idea.  Granted, prices are way too high, but we have good doctors in the US because they make good money here.  If they all got a flat rate for everything, people may not take that extra effort to be a doctor or be a good one. 


I feel bad for people who have low income and are really struggling.  I wish there was a way to help people who really need help in general.....however, there are so many crooks out there looking for hand outs and not trying to better there situation.  It is like the ones that really need help and are trying can't get the help they need to really get on the their feet and the low life scum that mooch off of the government are the ones who get help.  It disgusts me. 


As for the CEO of companies pocketing millions of dollars while the employees lose their jobs, etc.....I don't agree with that either.  I'm tired of the arrogance of our country.  Everybody hates us.  We always try to tell others how to run their countries and yet we send all of our jobs out of our country for cheaper labor and we buy all of our stuff from other countries that don't have strict regulations about stuff like lead in the paint on toys, etc.  Are we really this stupid? 


I think all politicians are crooks and they all make promises that are unrealistic.  But instead of researching and finding out what is feasible, you get those followers who hear something and instantly believe and they vote out of ignorance. 


I truly wish there was another option here.  I'm still debating on who I will vote for.  I don't like either candidate.  I think the US could have done much better than either of them.  God help us all with this next election!


I don't know what's scarier
McCain or that there are actually people who will vote for him.

Okay, here's a link for you (don't let any kids see this - could be scary), but from your link I found, another link, then another, then another and then found this. This truly sums up what I've always seen whenever I see Hillary talking. I couldn't stop laughing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoEags-7rhk&feature=related
What is even scarier is those who would believe Ayers...

Ayers called Obama a family friend


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-talk-ayers-14nov14,0,2979315.story


How many decisions do you need
You are grasping at straws that do not even exist. You are riding for a fall. It ain't happenin'.
Who is scarier (McCain or Obama) and why?
I would like to know who you think is a scarier candidate and why.  Please give facts (not rumors you have read or heard like for example - do not tell me that you believe Obama is a muslim, or that you don't like his middle name or think he's the antichrist, or McCain is not a christian or this or that).  I am looking for some facts.  Like he supports this or that and his experience he has done this or that.  Just curious who thinks who is a scarier choice for president.  Both of them right now are not high on my list and whoever is chosen for president will be just that (chosen by the higher powers than us). 
Clinton way way more scarier than Biden
I know where Biden stands. I know what his issues are. I know how he voted. Ive seen him question people on issues. I've heard him tell Bush if he starts a war in Iran he will be impeached and he can't just go and do what he pleases without approval.

What scares me about Hillary:
- She lies so much she can't tell the truth from her lies.
- She'll say anything to get elected.
- She won't tell Bill to back down when he's doing her campaign harm.
- She's part of Bilderberger group.
- She believes she should be just anointed to the office of President.
- She wants to socialize the health care system.
- She does consider people like the cleaning ladies or other service oriented jobs as "real people".
- She talks about assassination attemps as though she's talking about the weather (if she wasn't thinking about doing it or having it happen she would not have brought it up.
- She uses her gender as a way of getting votes.
- She call the "race card" when it goes in her favor.
- She fights for illegals to have the right to vote (for her of course).
- She'll have her daughter go and to the polling stations convincing people to vote for her, but any of Obama's people go to the voting booth and she's ready to have them all arrested.
- She plans to turn the US into a socialist country.
- She was the chief person behind the Waco Incident.

The list goes on and on and on. She is one scary lady and she has no scruples.
Decisions vs ideas.
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and he gets to make those decisions? nm
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Yeah, even scarier that you will vote for Obama
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You fear-mongers are much scarier than Ayers.
"I knew Barack Obama, absolutely. And I knew him probably as well as thousands of other Chicagoans," Ayers said. "And like millions of other people worldwide, I wish I knew him better right now."

Ayers, now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago, calmly dismissed any belief that he and Obama are covering up a deeper bond.

"This idea that we need to know more, like there's some dark hidden secret, some secret link, is just a myth, and it's a myth thrown up by people that wanted to exploit the politics of fear," Ayers said. "And I think it's a great credit to the American people that those politics were rejected. The idea that we should continue to be frightened and worried and barricaded is falling down, and it should."
Who makes your medical decisions now?
Socialism does not always evolve into dictatorship. France is not a dictatorship, nor is Canada, and the 3 Scandanavian countries have had socialized medicine, socialized transportations, socialized education for about a century. Unlike this country, they have never started a single war, have no race riots, no poverty to speak of, very low rate of unwed pregnancies and STDs, etc.

"Socialist" Germany before WWII? What on earth are you talking about?

All socialism is all the people sharing the burden of public goods - schools, streets, sewer systems, military defense, etc. We are the only developed country in the world that does not share the cost of health care and education for its entire citizenry.

There are so many half-baked statements in your post, it would take a book to answer them all.

Again, we are the only country that does not pay for the education of its citizens - here we have to go n debt for 10 or 20 years to pay back student loans for a college and/or graduate education. Why do you think we have so many foreign doctors here? Because they come here to make PROFIT - we have the only health care system that is run by corporations and is based on profit, not on care for the patients.

Read a book before you spout off.

Roe v Wade put such decisions where they belonged -
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Actually, he and Michelle DID make these decisions.
This was made very clear with respect to the previous "giftgate" situation. You have to understand that Michelle Obama, in particular, is an angry woman who hates Great Britain for it's ancient role in the slave trade a few hundred years ago.
You dont get it? Makes rash decisions, yet other
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Fact remains, she has made executive decisions for a year and a half...
as governor, and before that as a mayor. He has made none. Zero, zilch, nada. The only time she will "legislate" is if she has to vote to break a tie Not hardly the same thing as running a state...or a country.
Based on what?
Your wishful thinking?  I find it hard to believe you're a moderate conservative.   2008 is still a long way off.  The liberals better find an agenda other than hating Bush before they'll have any chance in hades of electing more of them to congress much less to the White House.
BASED ON...???
You want to back up that comment?

Or are you just talking out of your backside?
Based on what? (nm)
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Based on Cat 3. When NWS warning came out,
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It is based on income . . .
not on grades. You have to keep your grades up to keep receiving it, BUT the primary requirement to receive it is low income. So do you thing those who have done well for themselves should be required to give money to those who are below them if they are trying to do better? Because that is what is sounds like. As long as it is benefiting you, it is okay because you are trying to do better?

No matter how you slice it, you are still taking from those who have and giving it to havenots. Just stay consistent with your argument. Who is to say who HONESTLY deserves aid?
Yup. The one's that's based in reality.
As in the real deal.
Based on your response...
Your moniker is a misnomer...it should be Christian with hate!
Whether or not this is religiously based or not

I just cannot condone late-term abortions.  For that to be legal.....I just think that would be horrible.  If a child can survive outside of the womb even though it hasn't been born yet and then it is aborted.....that is just plain and simple murder and if we allow that....what does that say about us?  I think abortion should be legal with some guidelines.


Right, not something based on facts but on a fixation

Based on what is going on right now with Russia and georgia...
I would say looking in his eyes and seeing KGB is pretty much on the mark. McCain knows who and what Russian "management" are. You can see what they think about negotiations. Basically told the world up yours, if we want Georgia back we are going to take it. Why doesn't Obama go visit them like he did Germany and give a speech about how he is a citizen of the world and see how far it gets him. Sigh....Careful what YOU ask for.
Based on what? Genitalia over issues?
She is not exactly champion of feminist issues. Not to worry. We're better than that. She's no Hillary and most of her supporters will not hesitate to point that out.
also based on a combination of bias
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The math is based on Sam's claim
If Sam is talking 80% approval rating in Alaska, that would imply that she is talking about people who actually are familiar with her policies, programs, credibility, how she conducts herself and soforth...in other words, approval rating among those who actually know her/voted for her. That is what a governor's approval rating is.

The math shows us how much of an overall approval rating of these same factors she has nationwide. SP was only in the governor's office for 20 months. She is still an unknown quantity here and will remain so. The only people who can rate her job performance are the one from her state, since she is not known in the lower 48. The math merely points out exactly what that means within the context of a national approval rating of job performance, since the rest of the 49 cannot possibly be included in that figure. Thus on a national level, that 0.182% means next to nothing.
Do you vote strictly based on what your
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My opinion is based on what Obama says and does...
not some anonymous right-wing wacko on a silly medical transcription site, who thinks fear mongering is the way to scare people into voting Republican. I get a good chuckle from your silly posts, and they prove wihtout a doubt that I have made the right choice in supporting Barack Omaba for President of these great United States.

You could stand on your head and spit fire, and all that would prove is that you are eligible for the circus!

Barack Obama for President 2008!
I have never seen welfare based on your color -
Where would you live that welfare would be based on your color? That seems like a crock to me!


Obama's plan is not based on
The government will not be "in charge" of anything excep ACCESS to a healthcare coverage plan. It will still be private companies and if you don't want the national plan, you do not have to join it....keep your own if you like. Read the plan. All he is proposing is to open up the current plan that now covers Congress, Senate and federal employees to citizens. That plan is like any other. It has several different deductible schemes, choices of levels of coverage (PPO/HMO) and a range of premium amounts. All O is trying to do is make health care available to all Americans at affordable prices.
So your political acumen is based on
Tarot cards, crystal balls, mystic revelations, fortune telling, dye casting and Voo-doo-doo?
Our 'economy' SHOULD collapse - it was based
even richer at our expense. Everything about the last 8 years was a lie and a travesty. They finally pushed the middle class to the brink of extinction. Now that the middle class finally couldn't support the Rich anymore, they voted someone into office who's calling them out. Sure they're mad as he11. I think this is only the beginning. Will it hurt everyone? Including those of us that voted for a democratic president. You bet. This near-depression has gone on for so long that it likely will continue for years, not just months. You can blame the dems all you want, but next time you cant pay your rent or your heating bill, just remember that the ones who are keeping you down are all those in the Rich Boys' Club (including your current employers) because for all these years our government was giving them a free ride to do whatever they wanted. Our top-heavy, 'trickle-down', step-on-the-little-guy economy was way overdue for a major correction. It DESERVES to fail.
I don't judge people based on religion.

Observations based in truth are not smears
Go gourdpainter.
You're just prejudiced. That is not based in fact...
Just because you say that's what he'll do, doesn't make it so.

You just wish he was as bad as you think he is.


Fact is that he's kept you safe in your own country for over 7 years.


But you'll never admit it.



Another argument based on false premise.
underpinnings of our democracy? Here's a clue just for you. What is the function of the Supreme Court? Since when do the 3 branches of our govt NOT interpret the constitution? This has absolutely nothing to do with Obama and everything to do with the ignorance you seem to feel compelled to display, and dern proudly, I might add.

Before you try to tell the rest of us how we should be thinking and such, perhaps you should be addressing your own severe afflictions, starting with your blind hatred.
It is a sound document based in fact.
As we can see in the archives of this very board.

What exactly do you find alarming about it? What do you think is not truthful? Do you think that domestic terrorism does not exist? Do you think that nothing should be done to monitor potential threats to our safety within our own borders? Would you object so vocally if the report pertained to extremist liberals?

Or did you not read the actual document and simply read Malkin's piece?
She could teach a class on it solely based on what she learned
from CONS here.  You people provide a wealth of knowledge.
Not deep, issue-based political discourse, is it?
It can be entertaining if you don't take it seriously though.
My vote is based on issues, -include character.nm
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Alaskans do get a check based on oil profit taxes that are...sm,
charged by the Alaskan government. That is why the poor Alaskans support her and agree to the rape of their land. A few thousand dollars is a lot of money to them.
I was not talking about tithes...I am taking about faith-based...
organizations independent of a particular church. One I support is Feed the Children. Generally tithes are used to pay the bills of the church.


Full coverage based on income for people whose...sm
employers do not offer insurance.
sam, weak argument based on semantics, that reporter's
implication was all too clear, and just another stupid accusation in order to mislead yet more uneducated, misinformed voters.
employer based-programs subsidize insurance...
not just make it available--and therein lies my problem.
My confidence in Obama is based on his brilliant intellect,
his ability to bring people together, his leadership capacity, his calm demeanor, his form of thinking, the multi-tasking problem-solving skills he has demonstrated, his world view, his plans and policies, his voting record, his biography, his focus on the middle class, his accomplishments, his instincts (especially when assessing that the country was "ready" to elect a black president), his confidence, his judgment, his desire to seek a broad-based, wide variety of opinions, his decisiveness, his vision, his orientation toward the future, his multicultural global outlook, his global appeal, his compassion, his family orientation and, above all, his love for his country. He will make an extraordinary leader for America and we are lucky and blessed to have him.