Huckabee forgot about the Patriot Act...
Posted By: sm on 2009-02-11
In Reply to: Stimulus is 'anti-religious' - Huckabee
Ummm audacious? More control? I'm getting whiplash from looking behind in order to look ahead.
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huckabee
Wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross reminds of Huckabee. The fascist part, no.
huckabee
Is that guy still hanging around? He seems affable. I like him. As far as the vanilla statement . . . warning . . warning ... this is a joke . . . sniffs of racism, if you ask me.
Huckabee...? Nope....
from defintion of facism: Fascist movements usually try to retain some supposedly healthy parts of the nation's existing political and social life, but they place more emphasis on creating a new society. In this way fascism is directly opposed to conservatism—the idea that it is best to avoid dramatic social and political change. Instead, fascist movements set out to create a new type of total culture in which values, politics, art, social norms, and economic activity are all part of a single organic national community.
With all due respect, that sounds much more like where liberals are heading than where conservatives are heading...?
Huckabee comes to mind.LOL sm
A woman was interviewed in an exit poll and said she voted for McCain. When asked what attracted her to McCain, she said he was bringing the troops home. YIKES!!!! He just said he intended to stay in Iraq for 100 years. What is the matter with America. Are people really this dense.
hil's starting to look a lot like Huckabee
her best hope is to be Obama's VP at this point. I think with that ticket they would be unstoppable
Huckabee spoke about this the other day
He said a very astute financial guy with decades of eperience had noticed a very unusual trend in the market last week; that every day at the same time late in the day, the market would begin selling off huge volumes, just in time where it could not rebound and then this would start again the next day, with no rebound gain. He questioned economic terrorism then.
And it did make us wonder then if this thing was being manipulated. When the government over the weekend began singing how they were going to put money in the banks that was a big sign for me that there may be something to the suspicions. This gave governments an exception to buy into banks, thereby starting the ball of socialism. Government should never ever be involved in banks like this.
I don't think for a moment this has anything to do with not paying China off because China has been hacking into the World Trade Bank in Europe for over a year.... a year! And their people can't keep them out. So, that tells me China has been involved in this manipulation for a long time. They managed to get very private financial documents with loan information and procurements on them that would allow them to really manipulation behind the scenes with all that information they have.
I don't doubt China has EVERYTHING to do with this. But if we keep buying more of their junk and refuse to buy anything but their junk, then we have no one to blame but ourselves. We should start demanding our government NOT import any more goods from China and that our companies going over there to save taxes be given tax exemptions ONLY if they bring all their business back to this country.
When I was growing up, my great aunts always said keep us out of the United Nations and don't do business with communist countries or we would regret it one day. They were right!
Huckabee is Wrong and Here's Why
Pat Robertson's American Center for Law and Justice started this nonsense, and it was then picked up by Fox News and the Christian Broadcasting Network.
However, the ACLJ got it totally wrong. The language in the provision blocks on-campus spending on buildings that are used PRIMARILY for religious purposes, like chapels, and this language has been a standard part of every education-spending bill for the last 46 YEARS. It's the law, and it's never been controversial.
Huckabee, the CBN, and Fox News are either too stupid to know how to read legislature or are deliberately making reckless accusations without knowing the facts.
Huckabee sees sm
the One World Government coming and what is going to happen according to bible scripture. The people that you think are trying to scare you might be trying to warn you of what is coming. It is your choice of whether you believe it or not.
Huckabee is hallucinating..........nm
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I like the way Mike Huckabee said it
tonight, *as long as we are being kicked in the rear, we know we are still in the front.* I have had so many good laughs this week, has made me feel so good after recuperating from my hip replacement.
It has been so comical, since watching TV is about all I have been able to do, I had to watch CNN and MSNBC just for the laughs! It is so obvious that they are afraid of Fox News and their ratings. They have made such fools of themselves this week! They would have appeared much more professional if they had just handled the tea parties as any normal news coverage. In trying to make someone else look stoopid, they have only made themselves the stooges.
The prime example was the subject of your post. I don't know what kind of rock they found her under, but she needs to slither back under it and stay put (just a personal opinion). As for Olberman agreeing with her, he was just showing his usual stupidity! Disgusting hardly begins to describe this clip.
Anyone who tries to defend what this person(?) says surely has some serious issues that need addressing. And the DHS is worried about our returning veterans and anyone who is pro-life? They have us on a list of terrorist? The people who attacked the Twin Towers are no longer terrorists. But, these rednecks at the tea parties are potential terrorists.
Yes, truly disgusting.
Add to that the Patriot Act..
They could not get the Patriot Act passed before 9/11. Read this Act. It is downright scary and at the very end it states "or other purposes." What "other purposes?"
yes. Patriot. nm
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Don't want a patriot, need someone
who is highly intelligent, who takes time to think through his/her decisions, not a shoot off the hip kind of guy.
what does this have to do with the patriot act?
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Now here's a patriot...Not..(sm)
Rush Limbaugh: *I Hope Obama Fails." Somebody's gotta say it.*
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_011609/content/01125113.guest.html
me too!! I love obama but huckabee...s/m
I guess all of the rapists are happy tonight. If he wins the presidency i'm moving to Canada
Huckabee's phone call from God. sm
Anyone else see this? Funny at first, but gave me the creeps by the end of it. I am surprised some of these people have not been struck by lightning.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/12/01/mister-huckabee-talks-to-god/#comments
Huckabee? Not presidential material
Here is Novak's recent article on him. Creepy. Reminds me a little of a wolf in sheep's clothing. I think it is important to get the opinions of those people in the districts politicians serve. Those opinions on Huckabee are not very good.
The False Conservative
by Robert Novak
Posted: 11/26/2007
Who would respond to criticism from the Club for Growth by calling the conservative, free-market campaign organization the "Club for Greed"? That sounds like Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich or John Edwards, all Democrats preaching the class struggle. In fact, the rejoinder comes from Mike Huckabee, who has broken out of the pack of second-tier Republican presidential candidates to become a serious contender -- definitely in Iowa and perhaps nationally.
Huckabee is campaigning as a conservative, but serious Republicans know that he is a high-tax, protectionist, big-government advocate of a strong hand in the Oval Office directing the lives of Americans. Until now, they did not bother to expose the former governor of Arkansas as a false conservative because he seemed an underfunded, unknown nuisance candidate. Now that he has pulled even with Mitt Romney for the Iowa caucuses with the possibility of more progress, the beleaguered Republican Party has a frightening problem on its hands.
The rise of evangelical Christians as the motive force that blasted the GOP out of minority status during the past generation always contained an inherent danger if these new Republican acolytes supported not merely a conventional conservative but one of their own. That has happened now with Huckabee, a former Baptist minister educated at Ouachita Baptist University and Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. The danger is a serious contender for the nomination who passes the litmus test of social conservatives on abortion, gay marriage and gun control but is far removed from the conservative-libertarian model of Barry Goldwater and Ronald Reagan.
There is no doubt about Huckabee's record during a decade in Little Rock as governor. He was regarded by fellow Republican governors as a compulsive tax increaser and spender. He increased the Arkansas tax burden by 47 percent, boosting the levies on gasoline and cigarettes. When he decided to lose 100 pounds and pressed his new lifestyle on the American people, he was far from a Goldwater-Reagan libertarian.
As a presidential candidate, Huckabee has sought to counteract his reputation as a taxer by pressing for replacement of the income tax with a sales tax and has more recently signed the no-tax-increase pledge of Americans for Tax Reform. But Huckabee simply does not fit in normal boundaries of economic conservatism, as when he criticized President Bush's veto of a Democratic expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP). Calling global warming a "moral issue" mandating "a biblical duty" to prevent climate change, he has endorsed the cap-and-trade system that is anathema to the free market.
Huckabee clearly departs from the mainstream of the conservative movement in his confusion of "growth" with "greed." Such ad hominem attacks are part of his intuitive response to criticism from the Club for Growth and the libertarian Cato Institute for his record as governor. On Fox News Sunday Nov. 18, he called the "tactics" of the Club for Growth "some of the most despicable in politics today. It's why I love to call them the Club for Greed because they won't tell you who gave their money." In fact, all contributors to the organization's political action committee (which produces campaign ads) are publicly revealed, as are most donors financing issue ads.
Quin Hillyer, a former Arkansas journalist writing in the conservative American Spectator, called Huckabee "a guy with a thin skin, a nasty vindictive streak." Huckabee's retort was to attack Hillyer's journalistic procedures, fitting a mean-spirited image when he responds to conservative criticism.
Nevertheless, he is getting remarkably warm reviews in the news media as the most humorous, entertaining and interesting GOP presidential hopeful. Contrary to descriptions by old associates, he is now called "jovial" or "good-natured." Any Republican who does not sound much like a Republican is bound to benefit from friendly media support, as Sen. John McCain did in 2000 but not today with his return to being more like a conventional Republican.
An uncompromising foe of abortion can never enjoy full media backing. But Mike Huckabee is getting enough favorable buzz that, when combined with his evangelical base, it makes real conservatives shudder.
Huckabee show on now, Hannity after that
He's got a new show on FNC and it is very good. Hannity's America is on afterwards, which looks to be extremely informative. Whether you like these 2 or not, their info can be fact-checked.
Dim bulbs? How about Mike Huckabee? LOL!
I didn't agree with Mike Huckabee politically, but I always found him to be incredibly gracious and authentic. He had Coulter on his show (aptly followed by Jerry Springer, who ironically brought CIVILITY to the show.) and confronted her about the lies she published about HIM in her book.
If you scroll down the first page, you'll see the Springer segment. I believe when Huckabee referred to "authenticity" while speaking to Springer, he was referring to Coulter. At least, that's how it came across to me.
Here's the video:
http://www.foxnews.com/huckabee/index.html
Dim bulbs? How about Mike Huckabee? LOL!
I didn't agree with Mike Huckabee politically, but I always found him to be incredibly gracious and authentic. He had Coulter on his show (aptly followed by Jerry Springer, who ironically brought CIVILITY to the show) and confronted her about the lies she published about HIM in her book.
If you scroll down the first page, you'll see the Springer segment. I believe when Huckabee referred to "authenticity" while speaking to Springer, he was referring to Coulter. At least, that's how it came across to me.
Here's the link to the video:
http://www.foxnews.com/huckabee/index.html
I don't care what Huckabee sees
believe in separation of church and state. That is the American way - whether it is popular or not.
Don't bother to warn me about Jesus coming, I'm ready. Please stop assuming you know things you don't.
Maybe we should put that patriot act to good use....(sm)
like on the nuts at Fox News who are doing nothing but inciting violence.
http://leesearles.wordpress.com/2009/04/07/rightwingnuttery-glenn-beck-and-the-rise-of-fox-news-militia-media-edition/
Sheehan, a true patriot
I have followed this courageous woman who sacrified her son for this war and I have nothing but praise and respect for her. She is a true American.
Michael Moore a patriot? sm
in WHAT alternate universe? Investigate? He wouldn't know a true investigation if it bit him on his very large butt. During the last election when he called Americans in general and Democrats in particular stupid...well I guess he loves the country but holds the people in contempt...particularly liberals as that is what he said...a patriot? Well the founding fathers would spin in their graves on that one. LOL...omg. Michael Moore a patriot. LOL.
He was a true patriot! I'll bet you are
proud of him.
I didn't vote for or against the Patriot Act and neither did you....
Congress did. Obama voted to reauthorize it as well.
The Patriot Act has nothing whatsoever to do with communism. What would make you say that?
Patriot Act/health care
You mean HC, of course. She was not different than any other congress and senate members. Patriot Act parts 1 and 2 were passed BEFORE the Iraq War WMD Bush lies, people die justification based on faulty intelligence was revealed. It makes me crazy that it is still there and I truly hope to see it revised or scrapped sometime in the next 4 years.
I am asking you, seriously...do you know when you started feeling vulnerable to govt control? I feel that too, but I am sure for different reasons than you...and I really am interested to know what make you feel that way.
Obama's plan is not a socialist plan like the ones you are referring to. He is not taking free enterprise out of health care. He is proposing to open up the existing plan that now covers Congress, the senate and federal employees. I have looked at that plan. It offers a number of choices in terms of deductible amounts, types of coverage (HMO, PPO, etc), premium amounts and the like. Pre-existing conditions are covered under some of those plans, if not all of them. He is aiming his pre-existing changes toward private insurance companies as part of his health plan.
It works like any other group plan. If you broaden the base of employees (in this case, citizens added to the plan by CHOICE, not force), the premiums come down. The care remains the same. You are free to choose the plan that best suits your needs or elect to keep your existing insurance. For Obama, it is a question of giving people access to affordable health care. He is not suggesting to transfer tax dollars to create the kind of plan you are describing that you consider to be subpar.
What is TriCare? I have to leave for a little while, but when I get back I will try to retrieve the link I used to inspect the existing federal plan and if I find it, I will post it later this afternoon. BTW, I know I come on strong and use sarcasm to a fault when I feel I am dealing with a poster who I think (sometimes mistakenly) is either ill informed or showing disrespect...not when having healthy debates over differences in opinion, beliefs or ideology. Those debates end up being the most informative of all and are a lot more satisfying than just preaching to the choir.
Do you recall the pre-Patriot Act world?
when diverse viewpoints were at our fingertips and not dictated by Mega-Media outlets riding around in the pockets of political status quo? Not only has this dummed down American audiences nationwide, but it has been a direct assault on the democratic process.
Patriot Act provisions:
1. Law enforcement agencies authorized (and sometimes forced) to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial and other records without a warrant. This has been exercised against their own citizens, the most recent instance being voyeuristic easedropping on intimate conversations between American troops serving in Iraw and their spouses...right to privacy in 1st, 4th and 5th admendments notwithstanding.
2. Eased restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States. This has allowed them to expand their definition of terrorisim to include individuals and groups exercising their 1st amendment right to redress the government via political dissent.
3. Expanded the Secretary of the Treasury's authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities. An example of this would be freezing funds of a first generation natural born citizens sending money to their family members who still live overseas.
4. Enhances the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting SUSPECTED (not proven) of terrorism-related acts. This has not worked out well for many perfectly innocent citizens and permanent residents whose only crime is to have a Moslem name.
5. The act also expands the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA Patriot Act’s expanded law enforcement powers can be applied.
Abuse of the Patriot Act has been rife and is the stuff of legend, as is the controversy that surrounds it. The erosion of civil right stemming from this one piece of legislation is breath-taking, but the mindset that created it....even more so. I will be voting for a candidate that shows at least some sort of awareness of civil rights. Those are the freedoms I worry about.
I guess our definitions of a Patriot differs
and I guess that's okay, but the truth will come out in the wash, eventually. All the media filters in the world will not keep the truth coming from coming out eventually, and we may all be surprised at what the truth actually is which may be drastically different than either one of our points of view.
Bush to criminalize his protesters under Patriot Act
By Patriot Daily
News Clearinghouse
1-13-6
George Bush wants to create the new criminal of disruptor who can be jailed for the crime of disruptive behavior. A little-noticed provision in the latest version of the Patriot Act will empower Secret Service to charge protesters with a new crime of disrupting major events including political conventions and the Olympics.
The Secret Service would also be empowered to charge persons with breaching security and to charge for entering a restricted area which is where the President or other person protected by the Secret Service is or will be temporarily visiting. In short, be sure to stay in those wired, fenced containments or free speech zones.
Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse's diary:
Who is the disruptor? Bush Team history tells us the disruptor is an American citizen with the audacity to attend Bush events wearing a T-shirt that criticizes Bush; or a member of civil rights, environmental, anti-war or counter-recruiting groups who protest Bush policies; or a person who invades Bush's bubble by criticizing his policies. A disruptor is also a person who interferes in someone else's activity, such as interrupting Bush when he is speaking at a press conference or during an interview.
What are the parameters of the crime of disruptive behavior? The dictionary defines disruptive as characterized by unrest or disorder or insubordination. The American Medical Association defines disruptive behavior as a style of interaction with people that interferes with patient care, and can include behavior such as foul language; rude, loud or offensive comments; and intimidation of patients and family members.
What are the rules of engagement for disruptors? Some Bush Team history of their treatment of disruptors provide some clues on how this administration will treat disruptors in the future.
(1) People perceived as disruptors may be preemptively ejected from events before engaging in any disruptive conduct.
In the beginning of this war against disruptors, Americans were ejected from taxpayer funded events where Bush was speaking. At first the events were campaign rallies during the election, and then the disruptor ejectment policy was expanded to include Bush's post election campaign-style events on public policy issues on his agenda, such as informing the public on medicare reform and the like. If people drove to the event in a car with a bumper sticker that criticized Bush's policies or wore T-shirts with similar criticism, they were disruptors who could be ejected from the taxpayer event even before they engaged in any disruptive behavior. White House press secretary McClellan defended such ejectments as a proper preemptive strike against persons who may disrupt an event: If we think people are coming to the event to disrupt it, obviously, they're going to be asked to leave.
(2) Bush Team may check its vast array of databanks to cull out those persons who it deems having disruptor potential and then blacklist those persons from events.
The White House even has a list of persons it deems could be disruptive to an eventand then blacklists those persons from attending taxpayer funded events where Bush speaks. Sounds like Bush not only has the power to unilaterally designate people as enemy combatants in the global war on terror, but to unilaterally designate Americans as disruptive in the domestic war against free speech.
(3) The use of surveillance, monitoring and legal actions against disruptors.
Bush's war against disruptors was then elevated to surveillance, monitoring, and legal actions against disruptor organizations. The FBI conducts political surveillance and obtains intelligence filed in its database on Bush administration critics , such as civil rights groups (e.g., ACLU), antiwar protest groups (e.g., United for Peace and Justice) and environmental groups (e.g., Greenpeace).
This surveillance of American citizens exercising their constitutional rights has been done under the pretext of counterterrorism activities surrounding protests of the Iraq war and the Republican National Convention. The FBI maintains it does not have the intent to monitor political activities and that its surveillance and intelligence gathering is intended to prevent disruptive and criminal activity at demonstrations, not to quell free speech.
Surveillance of potential disruptors then graduated to legal actions as a preemptive strike against potential disruptive behavior at public events. In addition to monitoring and surveillance of legal groups and legal activities, the FBI issued subpoenas for members to appear before grand juries based on the FBI's intent to prevent disruptive convention protests. The Justice Dept. opened a criminal investigation and subpoenaed records of Internet messages posted by Bush`s critics. And, the Justice Dept. even indicted Greenpeace for a protest that was so lame the federal judge threw out the case.
So now the Patriot Act, which was argued before enactment as a measure to fight foreign terrorists, is being amended to make clear that it also applies to American citizens who have the audacity to disrupt President Bush wherever his bubble may travel. If this provision is enacted into law, then Bush will have a law upon which to expand the type of people who constitute disruptors and the type of activities that constitute disruptive activities. And, then throw them all in jail.
Patriot Daily News Clearinghouse
Obama voted to extend the Patriot Act...
just so you know. After he said he would work to repeal it. There's some honesty for ya. Frankly, I don't think throwing your pastor and mentor of 20 years under the bus for your political career is particularly moral either. But that is just me.
This should make **patriot** Cheney happy.
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After reading Huckabee's pronouncement I was moved to religious zeal.....
I found myself saying "Good God!" and "Jesus Christ!"
The Patriot Act is up but some want to keep it, including Schumer. Don't blame Bush for that. nm
Please give examples of people violated by the Patriot Act
like rr said, Nancy Pelosi said she knows of no one who has been abused by the Patriot Act.
We lost our freedom with the last admin. - wire tapping, Patriot Act, etc....nm
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That's true - and Barack Obama is a true Patriot too.
Again we can agree to disagree. How John McCain has voted goes against everything I want as a President, but there are an equal number of people to me who feel opposite. That's the way it goes.
Your last comment brought to mind how true that is. Being a true patriot is not harmful in a candidate. John McCain is a patriot. So is Barack Obama.
Well, there it is. She probably forgot though.
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I cannot believe I forgot it...I mean him!!! LOL!! nm
Forgot something... LoL
When did Lindsey Graham suddenly become liberal? I believe he was a former JAG and is totally against Bush's torture techniques and military tribunals.
And when GENERAL Colin Powell says something, I put much more credence in what he has to say than in a bumbling authoritarian idiot who never had the guts to set one foot on foreign soil to serve his country.
Bush talks about the professionals, yet he refuses to listen to any of them. And the faithful Bush disciples don't even care that the torture Bush wants will come back on OUR troops, the same troops they claim to support so much, leaving them susceptible to the very same treatment.
Have you noticed how many Republicans are starting to stand up and do the right thing? And have you noticed how angry Bush is becoming in press conferences and interviews? (I thought the was going to hit Matt Lauer the other day.)
Bush's temper is definitely about to explode, and he doesn't look like a very stable person. Elections are less than 2 months away, and if the Republicans lose control, Bush is finally going to have to be accountable to the country. He's getting angrier and I think he's beginning to panic.
Another **terror attack**?
I think we should all be afraid, BE VERY AFRAID. :-(
I forgot to add
Just in case anyone comes back with "oh you just don't like her" - yeah, you're right - I don't like her and for good reason. She is a liar. We had her as first lady for 8 years! Enough! America doesn't need that back, and we certainly don't need her impeached husband back in the white house running around. That good for nothing impeached piece of work is out campaigning as though he is running for President. Both he and his wife are bold face liars they lie right to the camera and everyone's face and their attitude is "so? what are you gonna do about it". So no, I do not like either one of them. Our country was in horrible shape when they were in. NAFTA took away good jobs for people, our military was dessimated, and all the time he stood and lied and lied and lied. So no, I don't like them. P.S. In case your thinking I'm republican - I'm not. I even voted for Clinton the first time. Learned within 2 weeks what a mistake that was.
oh yes....I forgot......
the war is all Bush and McCain's doing....no one elses. Just them. All their fault. Had nothing to do with even the dems who voted to go for it. Hmm. Yes...funny how people always forget that tid bit. I do believe that even Biden voted to go into Iraq.
I FORGOT!!!!!
masturbation is a SIN!!
forgot
forgot one question. We have 2 children, 16 & 13. I think I answered the rest.
I forgot to add
Did anyone catch that now Obama is saying people who make $200 and less. What happened to the $250. This is what I mean. The slimy little worm keeps lowering and lowering his belief of middle income. Soon he will be saying if you make 4OK your above middle income and will be taxed more (less we forget what Clinton did). Which, by the way, Obama will have all his excemptions for all the people making over a certain amount. The people who pay and run Obama are millionaires. Do you really think they are going to sit back and say, yeah Obama take money from me, I don't need it.
Did anyone notice his slick way of making you believe that you will receive the same level of health care that he and his rich friends in cogress receive. Right!
Open your eyes people. You are just oozing with such hatred for someone, and the only reason I can see is that McCain is older because you've never said anything bad about his policies. It's all about looks with you.
What you forgot to say
You forgot to say that you're a racist. Let's be real, and keep it real.
Wow - ignorance must be bliss.
PS - I forgot to add
The RNC investigated this and it was determined valid that he is a natural born citizen.
The DNC never checked out Obama. You gotta wonder why and who put Obama in there.
I forgot to say I wish your son all the best
and hope he has a safe and enjoyable career (?). Not sure if you'd call it a career. I loved my time in the military and learned responsibility, valuable lessons, leadership and respect for others. It was a wonderful time of my life. Met my best friend the first night we were sleeping in the chapel at Ft. Jackson waiting for beds to open up in our basic training unit and we remain as close today as we were when we were together (she now lives in another state). 2 years ago her son joined the Army and he also graduated basic training at Ft. Jackson.
So my best wishes for a healthy and good life for your son.
Oh, I forgot about BBC
When I lived up north I used to listen to the canadian news. Boy talk about getting a different perspective of what Canada thinks of us (and not just political - they are not too fond of us in general). I think film clips are the best way to find out what's going on. I'd rather listen to what Obama has to say rather than listening to Obama and then having someone interpret what he said to me. HA HA HA. (same for any person. I just hate when I watch a video clip and then the news reporters say "What so-n-so was talking about was...." :-) I usually end up yelling at the TV, I do have a mind of my own ya know.
Anyway...just didn't know if people had a favorite.
You forgot........
Bush would sneak in after hours and push legislation through while Congress was in recess..........remember? There is blame to be laid on both sides of the aisle, but Bush will die in infamy because of the horrible decisions he, and his neocons, made.
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