Homosexuality is a sickness of the mind.
Posted By: You have it backwards on 2009-04-07
In Reply to: Your animosity borders on psychosis. - Topaz
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Wait a minute while I get out my sickness bag
"He's doing it simply for the love of his country". On pulleese.
Try, power, ambition, money, control, racial motives, or any other number of reasons.
As much as I didn't like McCain (and did not vote for him), he also said he was running for the love of his country and because he cared about the people. If he would have won would you have said "bless him"?
No politician runs for office because they love their country. They run for the sheer money and power it brings them.
No I'm not and I know homosexuality
is not a religion. All I'm saying is that religion has become so controversial with more and more people who refuse God's teachings and do not want their kids exposed to it that God has been taken out of the schools. Well, homosexuality is just as controversial and not everyone accepts this lifestyle and certainly those who don't accept it do not want their children taught in school that homosexuality is okay. It is my job as a parent to talk to my child about this and teach tolerance but not acceptance and for the school to undermine my authority and teach acceptance of homosexuality, especially to children as young as 5, is just as bad as the school preaching about God to children when atheists don't want their kids hearing about God. They are both two very controversial subjects that should not be taught at school.
I find homosexuality
offensive. I do not deny that. I do not impose my beliefs on anyone. You may do as you choose. The homosexual community is trying to impose their way of thinking on the rest of the world. Have you been sleeping? I do not need your link about Sodom and Gomorrah. Lack of hospitality... What a hoot..
I believe homosexuality is wrong but for sm
goodness sake, I don't think the homosexuals are all by themselves responsible for someone stopping Bible study in a home.
I will tell you what has taken away our freedoms and that is, we as Christians, who have sat on our butts for too long and let our rights be taken away! We have not been proactive enough.
Geeze next you will be saying the illegals caused some idi** to want to stop Bible study in the home.
Again I think the lifestyle is wrong and a sin against God, Christianity and the Bible, but you are little paranoid don't you think?
So now you're likening homosexuality..(sm)
to smoking dope and murder? What planet are you from?
So now you're likening homosexuality to ...(sm)
a crime. Beyond the obvious lunacy of your ideas, there is the fact that gays and lesbians are NOT treated equal by just putting them in a corner. They deserve the same rights as everyone else.
How about if we say that you can be a christian, but your religion willl not be recognized unless you live in a certain area? You cannot demonstrate your faith in any manner because children might see you and get the wrong impression. You can live with other christians, but you will not be afforded the same rights afforded to other communities. Does this sound fair to you?
Homosexuality is not about historicial facts...... sm
it is about theological facts. So that makes the Bible a relevant source since it is the gold standard for theology.
Seeing as homosexuality is not a religion - see message
It SHOULD be taught in schools as an accepted lifestyle. They teach sex education in school, safe sex, etc, why wouldn't they teach about homosexuality? Maybe if it was taught earlier on we wouldn't have so many hate crimes against the gay and lesbian people.
Christianity, Mormonism, Lutherans, Catholicism, Buddism, etc are all religions and DO NOT belong in the schools. That is why there are churches. Unless you send your child to a religious school there is no reason for religion to be taught in schools.
Christians (not all) do force their beliefs on non-believers. In the community I just moved from my aunt and uncle were huge church goers (aunt is secretary, uncle creates a flyer). They have bible studies at different peoples home two and three times a week. In those bible studies they say some prayers, and then they get out their map of the city to discuss who is going to work what area to knock on doors, and be in the stores to approach unsuspecting people who are not in the church and "push" their religion onto them. When we first moved to the community we were approached by a lady from their church, who approached us with questions about our beliefs. When we told her we prefer to keep our religious viewpoints to ourselves, she then stood and proceeded to tell us her faith was the right path to follow and she is doing the work of the Lord, blah, blah, blah. We kept trying to get away and not be rude, but she was holding our hands and proceeded to tell us if we didn't believe we were sinners and would blah, blah, blah (think you get the message). After she was through with us she then proceeded to corner some other "poor souls" and do the same thing to them. When we had someone come out to hook up our cable, he happened to be from their church and began to preach to us. Their whole purpose they said in their church service was to get everyone in the community to join their church and use whatever means they had to do it. I've listened to talk shows where the guest said his mission is to make everyone in American a "christian", and destroy the non-believers and other religions because their religion is the "wrong path to follow". So don't tell me they don't push their viewpoint on us and down our throat. Maybe you don't but a lot of others do.
Homosexuality was never allowed in ancient times
and it did not become a sin because the christians said it is a sin. It's written in the Bible and this I believe, because it is 'detestable', it is so written in the Bible:
' Below are some Bible verses that condemn homosexuality:
Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death.....'
Plenty of non-religious folks that believe homosexuality
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What mind?
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Never mind
I thought you were responding to my comments. Now I understand your comment as you were responding to PKs remarks on this board. Sorry...
Never mind. You obviously don't get it.
How can you be so certain this country isn't going to be blown to smithereens? If we're not already in the beginning of WW III, then we're definitely heading for it, and Bush is encouraging it with his love of war.
I'd really appreciate an answer to this, and I would respectfully request that you answer in the format the question was asked: Without any personal attacks directed at me for asking the question, sticking to the issues and no insults.
Please tell me why you think we're safe under Bush and are not on the brink of being blown to smithereens. I welcome respectful, polite debate and sincerely hope you respond.
This is not what I had in mind, exactly. NI
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maybe in your own mind you have but i'd rather
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May we just keep in mind that these....
corporations you demonize employ most of the people in this country? And can we keep in mind that huge corporate taxes are generally a big factor in companies moving offshore, closing facilities, downsizing, etc. Corporate tax bills are one the largest things corporations have to pay...and yes, they pay bills just like anyone else...for labor, for benefits, for supplies and materials and on and on.
You speak as if corporations were made up only of executives and they are the only ones who reap benefits...that is just not true.
We do need to keep this real.
no, but i wonder how your mind got so
twisted on the facts. Democrats have a terrible history of spending more money; their theory is always to throw money at a problem (that's OUR money)...and if you TRUST that the bad guys will EVER think we are now good people, you are totally delusional!! AND, there's a big difference between slaughtering of innocent babies and death row immates my friend. Your argument is weird, but to ever disregard taking of innocent life is beyond me. you have too many topics to discuss them all -- but marry your horse huh? like i said, a very twisted state of mind. maybe the right medication or therapy will help you unravel your messed-up thoughts. and all your cheerleaders sure need help as well.
In whose mind, exactly?
Keep in mind
I said both MSNBC and Fox were biased. Then read their posts.
keep in mind
that Clinton passed the Patriot Act. At any rate--I think that we become more tha more and more susceptible to government strong arm every year, and I am not just saying under Democratic control. I personally have a problem with a state controlled medical system and there are many countries with worse health care than ours who offer it. If we take out the free enterprise, the money has to come from somewhere. Either we pay for it with higher taxes or subpar health care or lesser equipment or less research, but one way or another, the bill has to be paid. I grew up near a Naval base and my parents have always been employed by the federal government in one way or another--I think that my father currently has BlueCross/BlueShield insurance, so I am not really sure what plan you speak of, but you actually might know more about this than I do. I do know that you certainly do NOT want TriCare. My fear is that Obama will shuttle us down a path we are already heading at an accelerated pace. I understand that many people disagree with me. I can live with that.
If you don't mind my asking s/m
where in Oklahoma are you from? We have to be next door neighbors. I was raised halfway between Bentonville and Rogers. Went to school in Rogers, but the farm I grew up on has now been annexed into Bentonville and is a huge subdivision now. Hate going to that area because I'm totally lost. Husband always tells me "you grew up here, you ought to know." Well, when I left there in the early 60's the population was around 5,000. I don't even know what it is now. B'ville, Rogers, Lowell, Springdale and Fayetteville is all just about one big metropolis now, except for signs you can't tell when you leave one and enter the other. One thing is good, this area probably won't suffer as much in a depression as other places.
As for Wal-Mart, I think in the 70s, I was tickled spitless when I saw the sign in Katy, Texas saying Wal-Mart was coming. I shopped there then. Remember Sam's motto was "Buy American?" Now it's "Bring it Home To America." Yup, bring it on home from China or Japan or Tiawan or whereever.
Another thing about Sam Walton......he lived in the same home until the day he died, drove an older pickup truck and was just "one of the good ole boys" who made good in Bentonville, Arkansas. Now there's a success story for ya.
Oh yeah, we go to W. Siloam Springs, Ok to the Cherokee Casino, ever go there?
We all know what is on your mind.nm
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His mind.
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Keep in mind that I am not saying...
that I am against helping victims of natural disasters. I only think that at some point, they need to be pushed out of the FEMA or MEMA nest to take care of themselves and find their own homes. I think that one year is long enough. These people have had 3+ years. At some point are they not responsible for helping themselves? The still get Welfare--use that to find a house to rent on section 8 or something. Do they get to double dip forever?
I don't mind but....
How much is enough. 40, 50, 60%?. Should I give 80% of my paycheck to taxes (because welfare is not the only thing taxes go to). Pride is one thing, but should I have to put my bills on credit, and then instead of owing $160 for electricity, I'll now owe $200 when you add in the interest charges. Then because they've raised my taxes (but not pay), I can't pay off the credit card, so now I have to put next months utilities on my credit card. Now my credit card has been charged $320, etc, etc. Each month it will pile up all because the money I would be for my utilities is going to support all the democrat programs and welfare system for people who can work but wont. When is enough. Heck should I be taxed at 100% and not even be able to afford to live anymore and get forced into the street. Maybe that would be good because maybe then I'd quality for welfare.
Also keep in mind ................ sm
that a hefty population of MTs are of an older generation who did not grow up in the technilogical revolution, myself included, and it is those MTs who depend on transcription for their livelihoods. I understand the need to keep up with the changes in the industry, but at the same time it's just so darn hard to take a hit in the pocketbook in order to do so.
What I think you have to keep in mind...(sm)
is the mind set of the people in the middle east. We are basing this idea that it will only anger them on what our own reaction would be, not theirs. I don't claim to know what they think or how they think, but it's my impression that instead of them being horrified by the pics, they may actually respect us for putting them out there. One thing is for certain. When it comes to people in the middle east, they are big proponents of consequences. I think they would look at it as the US owning up to what was done and taking responsibility for it. That would be a big change for the US in their eyes (and rightly so). They would see it as an embarrassment for us, thus being the consequence we pay for having done it. They would also see it as one step closer to punishing the last admin (which they really hate).
As a side note, on Rachel Maddow last night it was noted that Al-Q had put out a plea for financial help. In other words, they're running out of money. That may be the only good thing that comes out of this recession.
I seriously doubt that is who she had in mind. ...
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reading my mind too?
LMAO! Nope, I dont care, not at all, LOL, gee you are able to read peoples minds too, hun? Attack number one trillion against gt, LOL.
So a theocracy is what you have in mind?
A Department of Faith like this:
http://whitehouse.org/dof/marriage.asp
Your mind is closed.
I have no desire to talk to the likes of you.
Nothing will change your mind but others should know.
Africentric church
A visit to Chicago's Trinity UCC
by Jason Byassee
One of the brightest points in Barack Obama's rising political star has been his ability to talk about Jesus without faking it. Beginning with his rousing "Audacity of Hope" speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention and continuing with his book of the same name, Obama has shown that he can speak about his Christian faith in ways that are authentic and broadly appealing.
Little wonder that his enemies have tried to turn that strength into a liability. Right-wing bloggers and TV pundits have been targeting Obama's church, Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago, and its pastor, Jeremiah Wright, complaining that its self-proclaimed Africentric Christianity is separatist or even racist. Obama's campaign has itself pulled back a bit from being identified with Wright. In February it revoked an invitation to have him give the opening prayer when Obama announced his run for the presidency.
Africentrism (that's the term Trinity prefers to Afrocentrism) is wholeheartedly embraced at Trinity. One of the church's mottos is "Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian." Its choir is regularly decked out in brightly colored African dress, as is Wright when he preaches. The church emphasizes its connection to the African diaspora: it sponsors trips to western and southern Africa, the Caribbean, and Latin American countries with significant African populations. Julia Speller, a leader at Trinity and author of Walkin' the Talk: Keepin' the Faith in Africentric Congregations, notes in her book that the church offers courses in Swahili and that its youth programs, Intonjane and Isuthu, take their names from Swahili words for coming into manhood and womanhood. The congregation celebrates the Kwanzaa holiday and Umoja Karamu, a Thanksgiving Day service that narrates the story of the black family from its West African origins to today with dancing, drumming and storytelling.
Bible courses at Trinity emphasize the African roots of Christianity, focusing on the account of the Exodus and such passages as the psalmist's promise that Ethiopia would stretch out its hands to God (Ps. 68:31), and the conversion of the Ethiopian eunuch in Acts 8. In his preaching Wright goes out of his way to describe Moses as "an African prince" and his wife as a "raven-black" beauty. He declares that Jesus himself had "nappy hair" and "bronze skin" (he cites Rev. 1:14-15). Otis Moss III, who will succeed Wright upon his retirement this summer, says that the church is proud of its "Africanity," proud that "when we talk about Sudan, we have Sudanese present."
African Americans have generated distinctly black forms of Christianity since they arrived on these shores. The significance of these forms has been appreciated in mainline seminaries and churches for at least two generations. Trinity is well within the mainstream of the black church, and is remarkable in the mainline world only for its size and influence and for its handful of celebrity members, like Oprah Winfrey and hip-hop artist Common.
Critics have pounced especially on the church's "Black Value System," by which members affirm their commitment to God, the "black community," the "black family" and the "black work ethic," and disavow "the pursuit of 'middle-classness.'" One hatchet-job report in Investor's Business Daily, pointing to the Black Value System (a statement written not by Wright but by church members in the early 1980s), concluded that there is "little room for white Christians at Obama's church." Black conservative pundit Erik Rush said the church has embraced "things African above things American," and he claimed that this should be as alarming as a Republican presidential candidate "belonging to the Aryan Brethren Church of Christ." Tucker Carlson of MSNBC described Trinity as having a "racially exclusive theology" that "contradicts the basic tenets of Christianity." Sean Hannity of Fox News confronted Wright on TV and asked how a black value system is any more acceptable than a white value system. Hannity also suggested that Trinity's emphasis on black values contradicts Martin Luther King's famous hope that people would be judged "not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Follow link for more.
Nostradamous comes to mind
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Bear in mind....
it is not the hothead in the white house who "pushes the button." It is your duly elected Congress. If the Dem majority can keep their collective fingers off the button it doesn't matter who is President. He cannot go to war by himself. I cannot see Congress, after Iraq, EVER agreeing to go to war unless we are attacked again in a very aggressive way and there is no doubt who did the attacking. But, whatever happens...it will be the decision of your duly elected Congress...not the President, whoever he or she may be.
Huckabee comes to mind.LOL sm
A woman was interviewed in an exit poll and said she voted for McCain. When asked what attracted her to McCain, she said he was bringing the troops home. YIKES!!!! He just said he intended to stay in Iraq for 100 years. What is the matter with America. Are people really this dense.
Know you are not going to respond, don't mind....others might want to know...
any fire department employee is paid for by some branch of government...city, county, etc. They are all in essence government employees. Like any other city or county employee...like law enforcement. Los Angeles County FD, Orange County FD, they were the most heavily involved in fighting the Malibu fire, I believe. Generally volunteer firefighters are used where the municipalities cannot afford to pay firefighters, or for outlying areas that town firefighters do not cover. So I suppose that means firefighting is socialized anywhere the town, city or county government can afford it...not sure that qualifies as socialized firefighting. They are not universal firefighters all controlled from Washington, so really not similar to what socialized medicine would be. Control is at the local city or county level.
the thing in my mind that is so bad about him is
he was actually hard on that kind of thing and then HE went and did it. what a hippocrite
Would you mind stepping aside and
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no, my mind is already made up
I have been catching some of it (busy with MT and all) but what I really want to see is political commentary by someone who can say these were the good things about the speech and these are the things that weren't good or they should have talked about. Watching Democrat commentary they mostly say everything is wonderful and great speeches, and wathcing Republican commentary they mostly say the speech was lame or ineffective or whatever. Isn't anyone impartial? I'm really missing Tim Russert now.. :(
You seem to have your mind made up
You'll believe what you want to believe. But, I just wanted to comment on tax breaks for companies that stay in this country. The reason they left was because they had exorbitant taxes placed on them to the point they basically said, enough!
BTW, no matter how anyone tries to justify things, these are the same companies who were providing jobs for millions of Americans. They paid their share of insurance premiums for thousands or millions, their share of payroll taxes, had to comply with environmentalists (which was basically a tax), had to meet all kinds of other standards that were expensive, etc. The insatiable giant govt machine (Congress) who wanted to extract more and more are the ones to blame for that fiasco. Now I see they're wanting to offer tax cuts to the ones who remained!! It seems they can learn a lesson or two after all, if we believe they'll actually do it.
As for the big oil companies, yes they make a lot of money, but they're producing a product and they won't do that without paying well, like any other successful company that provides a multitude of jobs. There are great costs to produce that product, and they're taxed at an exorbitant tax rate as it is.
And as for their profits, considering what they actually make off of a gallon of gas for instance, a huge amount of that goes to their investors, including teacher's pension portfolios, just to name one. And they're already paying billions more in taxes than they make in profits, and now some in congress want to tax their profits with another windfall profits tax! Just incredible. Where does it end!!
But, Congress does control the purse-strings, so they'll do whatever they want, and they'll continue to tax, tax, and tax some more, every "big" business that provides incredible jobs into non-existence.
One day, those of us who work our tails off, will just sit down and give up and let Uncle Sam take care of us with their tax money they get from.....
Where did you get that information, if you don't mind....
and no pregnant 17-year-olds are involved in this question.
Who said it? Open mind and
Preconceived notions are the locks on the door to wisdom.
Who said it? Open mind and
Morality is simply the attitude we adopt towards people whom we personally dislike.
Who said it? Open mind and
It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job; it's a depression when you lose yours.
Who said it? Open mind and
This one calls for TWO:
Diplomacy is to do and say the nastiest things in the nicest way.
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to heII in such a way that you actually look forward to the trip.
Who said it? Open mind and
Community service should not be done just to announce the completion. It should be done without looking for a reward or praise. It should not be looked at as doing something for someone, but assisting them in making life better and fulfilling.
have you lost your mind?
Maybe Obama will smoke himself into a frenzy and forget he's even running.
It's quite possible! My mind is open. But sm
Obama didn't chicken out. McCain did--again!
I just watched the news on NBC. It was said (on Brian Williams' show) that this morning McCain got spooked by Obama's rising approval rating as opposed to his with respect to the financial situation, and he was advised to suspend--and pretend ("pretend" being my term).
Sorry, you can't change my mind...
I trust in the majority of the American people to know true honesty, goodness, and grace when they see it.
All the greasy left smear tactics in the world, cannot change that.
Just watch and see.....
Sorry, this does nothing to change my mind.
Only tells me that like many other soldiers, McCain came back from war and decided that the life he had wasn't the life he wanted now. It does happen - doesn't make it any easier on those left behind, but it does happen. What we're looking for in a president is someone with expereince in government, not experience in marriage. If that was the case, we wouldn't have found Bill Clinton in the closet with Monica! And yes, I left pretty much the same comment on the board at this site. My vote is still for McCain.
you didnt mind..
jumping in on my post about voting for Obama though did you? I am not really nasty. At all. Also, I am not the top anything at my church. I will pray for you, because you do need it even though you think that you dont. I came in your conversation because I felt that I should. True Christians today need to stand up for our belief in Jesus and not worry about what others may think of it. The truth needs to be out because there will be a time when everyone will have to answer for their beliefs. I am not going to stand before God at judgment and have him ask me why I didnt speak up for his son at the times that I could have. My post is not nasty, it just goes against what most people want to believe. People dont want to hear that they are not living right or that they will not go to heaven just because they are "good." That is not the popular thing to say these days. But every Christian who allows people they come into contact with believe that without telling them Jesus's message, they will be held accountable and I will not be one of them I hope and pray.
Here is me praying for you!
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