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My biggest problem with religion

Posted By: Trigger Happy on 2009-05-07
In Reply to: Having read your posts, if you were near me - and I was about to walk in front of a

is this....what makes me right and so many wrong.  It often makes me wonder if all religions aren't based on the same "God" because so many stories in their "holy books" are similar, etc.  I just wonder if people broke up and interpreted things differently and took one belief and transformed it into several religions under different names.  Did that make sense?


Wouldn't it just blow your mind if we are all sitting around and arguing about whose religion has it right when they all stem from the "god"?  Hmmm....makes you think or at least it makes me think.




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LOL. *Liberal Religion* = ANY religion that isn't YOURS.

You don't want EQUALITY in religion.  You want yours to be SUPERIOR to all others.  You want to force your narrow and specific religious beliefs down the throats of every single American.  You can't get them into your religion willingly so you'll FORCE them to fall in step with you via government if you have to.


You couldn't stop abortion by killing abortion doctors, so now you'll do it through the Supreme Court.  And your God on earth just happens to be a president who wants the same things that you do, and so he's willing to throw the Constitution out the window (in violation of his Presidential oath) in order to replace it, not just with the Christian Bible, but with his own personal clone who will legislate her own narrow evangelical Christian views that don't even agree with the less radical, quieter forms of the Christian religion.


Government, schools and universities don't fall into the same categories.


There already ARE religous schools and universities.  Isn't THAT enough for you?


And what about all those many, MANY buildings with crosses and other religious symbols on them throughout this nation where people of like-minded beliefs congregate to worship the God of their CHOICE?  I believe they're called CHURCHES.  Isn't THAT enough for you, either?


Nope.  You're not going to be happy until you can be *superior.*


The sad fact is that in a country with freedom of religion, you never WILL BE, whether you like it or not. You can put 9 THOUSAND justices on the Supreme Court, you still won't be SUPERIOR, and I believe God, who is all knowing, knows that as well!


Because the Muslim religion is the only religion that says.....
Convert or die.
OF course they are....that's one of the biggest
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That's the biggest truth - no msg


Forgot about that one - and that was the biggest lie of all
Just because people love Gore doesn't make him right. Just cos he wrote a book and bought himself a Nobel Peace Prize doesn't mean anything (except he's got a lot of money), and guess where he gets that from. That big ol fat lie he lays on everyone how only people create global warming. By the way do you ever notice its only Americans. So he pours all these phony "carbon credits", which of course benefits his company and he gets money from that. The guy has got one fail proof scheme going. Of course he won't give up any of gas guzzling SUV's, buses, private planes, etc. He won't give up anything he's telling other people they need to give up. Wonder how much electricity and energy it takes to heat his mansion, yet people like me in my 2 bedroom apartment are suppose to cut back more (so he can go on enjoying the good life). Oh Gosh, sorry, did not mean to go off about Algore. The guy is the biggest liar and phony. Now I know where Obama/Bidens thinking lies.

The fact of the matter is that Palin was correct last night. She said people do contribute, however, it is also part of the climate. People need to start ignore Algore and all of his infinite wisdom (NOT) and start listening to the people who have been studying this for years. The people who are not benefitting from spewing absolute garbage and making a profit off of it.
And I have and still do...that has been my biggest debate with them about it. nm
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This is one of the biggest reasons
I'm not voting for him. I understand we cannot do away with abortion completely (as much as I wish we could) but to just have open season on killing babies? Whew.

I'm telling you, next we will be aborting the elderly! Anyone of inconvenience will be getting a needle in the head!
She is the biggest fake there is. She truly looks
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One of the biggest benefits of my job is
that I don't have far to drive to get to work!
And that is one of my biggest problems, unfortunately....sm
In my case, I take 20 (yes 20) meds to keep going; I have horrible autoimmune diseases. But you know what? I would rather take them and keep working, keep learning, and set an example for my kids NOT TO GIVE UP rather than go an file for SSDI/disability; I was told I could probably get it easily eough, but I get a pride and sense of accomplishment and worth from my work that is GOOD for me, and as long as I can satisfy my bosses, I will keep working, God willing. People who are healthy do not understand needing so many meds and doctors and tests, and even with insurance what the co-pays add up to.....THOUSANDS. Bringing up three children is also costly, though absolutely priceless and the best thing I ever did with my life. We are at a point in economic history where it has NEVER been more expensive to feed, clothe, house, give medial/dental care to, and help with education for children....and I am not crying, whining, or looking for a martydom medal. Just trying my ultimate best each day, and thought the wage thing MIGHT be one of many solutions, what we have been doing in the past HAS NOT WORKED for so many reasons. Anyway, I truly hope you personally are doing much, much better these days, it takes time and faith, but life CAN get better...all the best to you!!
That's the biggest pile of hogwash I ever saw!

I'm a libertarian but I have a lot of friends in both right and left.  I never heard any of them say things like this.  Absurd!


I have determined that liberals are the biggest
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In my opinion, the biggest problem in
Washington is the Lobbyists. We need to get rid of them. They are not there for the American people, they are there for their own interests - the companies that they do work for. Both sides have them - I know Biden's son was one and McCain has what, 7 of them on his team. So it is a bipartisan problem.

I don't believe Universal healthcare is the only answer, but I do believe some sort of a plan would be beneficial. I have friends that live in different parts of the world, Sweden, France, and England - they have healthcare plans and they are a lot better than anything I get with my insurance. They may pay more in taxes, but by my calculations it is what I would be paying in premiums and deductibles anyway.
This was one of Hillary's biggest donors...
a friend of hers, an advisor to her campaign. You are right...this is a BIG deal.


DOW up over 900 points....biggest gain
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Talk about the biggest of hyocrites . . .
here is a woman who used her power for personal and financial gain . . . is little more than a media prostitute (and that is fact) . . .who declares country first, yet whose husband (and she as well) have supported a group of secessionists that want nothing to do with this country (talk about elitist). . . who claims to be this God-fearing woman, while simultaneously spewing nothing but hate.  It is nothing but laughable.  I would love to see Alaska secede from the US --- How long ldo you think it would take for it to be taken over by their neighbor, Russia?  HA!
My biggest concern is how many illegals are
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Rush is the biggest hypocrite EVER
I so agree with you He is such a hypocrite! He can't practice what he preaches. Don't go quoting him on here like he is a reasonable person.

Not only a hypocrite, but a criminal. He took drugs that were not prescribed for him. But if anyone he didn't like did that, he would do a slow roast of their character.

He's a liar and a hypocrite, not the voice of reason.
Oh, I know. Al Gore is the biggest phony
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This is the biggest bunch of bunk and lies
I've ever read. It's just hilarious how far people will go to try and discredit the very successful Limbaugh. Predictable drivel from the liberal press.
Biggest FLIP FLOP of all time...sm

So does Bush think there should be an exit strategy or not?


He's a joke!


My biggest problem with the 'pubs is you guys ain't
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Haha! It always seems the people with the biggest flag-

That is the biggest load of crock I have ever heard
I have heard a lot in the 8 years that Bush was in office. I am a proud Liberal and for the record, we don't "promote" abortion, we believe in a woman's right to make her own choice about her reproductive rights. No one is "pro-abortion!"
No, the biggest charlatan has been the outgoing President and his administration..
Good thing Obama has a tough hide - the names people have called him could leave another man weeping- yikes! The biggest charlatans have been the ones elected to run this country into the ground for the last eight years..who lied time and time again about matters of 'national security', who have continued to send troops to Iraq to fight Georgie Porgie's 'personal vendetta war' people who have blatantly robbed us of our jobs and savings to fatten their personal coffers and those of their buddies...i could go on but it makes me madder than he!! to see these lying criminals who have done these things and hear the garbage cranked out by the media that we are supposed to take as gospel because THEY told us so therefore it must be TRUE...what really stops me in my tracks when people DEFEND GWB as if he didn't KNOW what was happening in his own administration. And guess what?  I'm not a dem and not a pub- i'm in the middle and it truly breaks my heart to see what has happened to our country in the last eight years; it's downright digusting and criminal.
My biggest concern is National Security. Obama
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If your biggest concern in life is the Palins, consider yourself blessed. nm
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You "watcher", the biggest purveyor of hate on this board
I don't recall Clinton using taxpayer money for expensive little sex jaunts to ANOTHER COUNTRY!!  Duh!  I'm sure the good people of South Carolina don't appreciate their stupid hypocrite of a governor, the same governor that wanted to turn down stimulus money for their state, the same governor who also had the gall to to be all self-righteous about Cllinton, the same governor that ignored his own children on Father's Day, lying, deceiving and cheating them.  But no, you with your ugly hate-stirring atitude have to turn it around and blame everything on OUR PRESIDENT once again.  SMOKESCREEN?  YOU SERIOUSLY NEED A THERAPIST!!! 
The biggest welfare in US history is the Wall St bailout under the leadership of
in us history
Biden is the biggest fool out there this campaign, wins hands down.nm

Evil constant attacks on Palin are about to bring the biggest backlash
I believe you may have cost yourselves the election with the horrendous extent this was taken to.
Labor Department's report of 533,000 job losses in November — the biggest job loss in 34 years
Getting worse every day.
Religion

Religion - ?riduculous?


I will tell you what is more riduculous - those who truly believe that there IS NO GOD (wonder how in the he## you got here in the first place)...scary..


In regards to religion
It was Barrack Obama who quoted scripture during his speech at that dinner they had last week.  I'm so sick and tired of hearing people whine and complain because Sarah Palin is a believer.  Well....according to Barrack Obama....so is he!  Palin prayed for our country and people freaked out.  Obama's church preaches about him from the pulpit gaining control in a dominant white world and how they are oppressed by whitey, etc.....that should be more concerning than whether or not Sarah Palin prayed for our country especially since Obama attended that church full of hate for 20 YEARS!!!  Sheesh.
religion
I believe that O sees himself as a Christian with a Muslim father and biracial.

being gay is not a religion
Your talking about two different topics.
My religion is not
Since my sole aim as a Christian is to have a relationship with Christ, I have no religion. I brought up same-sex marriage because of the posts alleging that homosexuals are missing out on some perceived "right." Marriage is not a right in the first place. It is a privilege, like having a drivers license. Blind people shouldn't drive and couples who can't copulate in the way God intended should not be married. Your husband is as messed up as you are. ;-)
It may apply to your religion, but

it doesn't apply to the Constitution.


Are you suggesting that your religion should be the one that rules and that everyone else's spiritual/religious beliefs shouldn't count?


For example, I know some people who don't look at abortion as severely as you do because they believe that life doesn't end, that we merely pass on from one life to another, and that there really isn't any such thing as spiritual death, and that your body is just the "box" you come in but spirit lives on forever and continues to live in different "entities."


I know some people who don't believe in religion at all.


I know some religious people who believe that God gave us free will and technology to help us survive as best we can.


Not everyone is FORCED to believe the exact same religious beliefs that you do.  But the one document we all have in common and to which are are all bound is the Constitution.


I respect you enough as a person to respect and defend your personal religious beliefs. 


Please return the favor.


I have nothing against the Muslim religion anyway

I would bet that there are millions of Muslims throughout the world who are exceptionally good, hardworking people.  It seems to me that each religion has people who will try to twist it around as an excuse to do just about anything.  Look at those Baptists down south who protest gays at dead soldiers funerals because they say God is killing all these soldiers because American is getting too accepting of gay people.  These Baptists are obviously horrible people, but does that mean all Baptists distort their religion to spew hate and prey on grieving families?  Of course not.


I could care less what religion Obama is or was at one time.  I think he is an excellent candidate.  He is one of the few people who could turn this country (and maybe even this world) around.  We need someone strong enough and smart enough to lead this country and help to unite us again, and I think he's the man for the job.  I also agree with what someone else said in regard to his knowledge of the Muslim religion/culture being a good thing, especially considering our current dire situation.


Forget his religion,
he was a total bomb as a governor. He said one thing to get elected governor, then changed his mind when he decided to run for president. Then he went around the country bashing Massachusetts. Now there is a story in the newspaper that there were illegal immigrants painting his house even after all the problems with his landscapers. Such a hypocrite.
Sorry....I do not ever "check" my religion...
it is not put on on Sunday (or Saturday, whatever day one chooses to observe) and taken off on Monday. It is part of the fabric of my life. It is a constant. And that is not a bad thing. Have you read the papers of the founding fathers, wise men of great vision? They did not check their "religion" at the door. It is part of parcel of our founding documents and heavily influenced their decisions. People came here from England for the express purpose of religious freedom. THat is what this country is based upon. And from that desire for religious freedom came all our other freedoms. Our base set of laws is based on the Ten Commandments. Basic moral principles. So I beg to disagree. Our founding fathers lived their beliefs. They did not check it when they walked into Independence Hall.

The establishment of a state religion is prohibited by our constitution. Prayer inside the white house is not prohibited. They pray in the senate and in the house. They prayed on the steps of the Capitol on 9-11. Nothing in the constitution prohibits prayer, in fact it says freedom of religion and the free expression thereof and certainly says nothing about keeping it in church.

The freedom of religion clause was for a specific reason...that no government would establish a state religion and compel the entire country to follow it. It expressly provides for the free expression of faith. And it should not be a basis for discrimination.

Yes indeed, wise men of great vision, our forefathers. If you are interested in how they felt and thought, at this site are their quotes.

http://www.eadshome.com/QuotesoftheFounders.htm


Please give an example where she put her religion above the...
needs of our country. She has certainly done fine by the state of Alaska. Higher approval ratings than either O or Joe.
using religion as a blunt
instrument to beat your opponent over the head with is a very cynical misappropriation of the teachings of the great religions.  It does more damage to the believers than it does to the nonbelievers. 
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I know, I don't think religion should be part of it either (sm)
But if McCain had been attending a white supremist church that hated African-Americans and had a minister who spewed hatred, and he had attended that church for 20 years and called the minister one of his mentors.....who would vote for him?? No black person, no non-caucasian person, and at least 90% of whites would not vote for him either!
They don't care if you got religion or not..they
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Of course, you better hope you do have religion
they are already in Europe doing just that. The Muslim population has gone out of control as well as their minds since, unfortunately, Europe was trying to be so PC and let them come in. Bet they're regretting that now.

Now, they wanna do the same with country and if you turn your back to it, they'll have those in this country trying to tell us how to think.....wait....what am I saying.....they already do!!!
Holy cow! You could use some religion...
Muslim or otherwise!! 
religion and all that talk sm
Gee, the way I handle it is every night I thank the god of my understanding for getting me and my family through the day and I tell him or her how I appreciate all I have and to ask forgiveness if I hurt anyone that day. I think things get a little out of hand with all this discussion of doom and gloom. I don't have the right to tell anyone else what to do or what to believe. The only thing I think my God might say about all this negativity is, "Don't make me have to come down there!" Loosen up and do your best each day. That's what I do for me and my family, why practice doom and gloom when we have a day right in front of us to do our best in. Just my humble opinion. I hate to instill "fear" in anyone. If you don't sin, you won't have to repent.
I don't know much about the Muslim religion (sm)
but I do know that no one is born a Christian. That is not how we see it. You can be born to a Christian family and be taught Christian beliefs but you have to consciously decide to become a Christian, it is not something you are automatically born as.
Have you been brainwashed by religion?
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