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Oh for heaven's SAKE

Posted By: deenibeeni on 2008-11-11
In Reply to: Sorry, but I cannot adapt to - Hitler, Marxist style government.

Hitler? Marx? You don't know what you are talking about, & bringing your religion into it gives your religion less credibility, doesn't give you more.

http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitlernazigermany/a/ChristFascism.htm


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For heaven's sake
What's next, that pie he was eating looked exactly like Elvis? Good grief.
For heaven's sake, READ THE ARTICLE.
the part about charges dropped WITHOUT PREJUDICE. It means that the charges can be brought against him again AFTER the review has concluded and the new policies are in place. Also, pay especialy close attention to the part where it says that Abd Al-Rahim will REMAIN IN CUSTODY. Does that sound like a free pass?
oh for pete's sake
The far right is reading something sinister into this. Even your link acknowledges that Obama voted against this bill with an intentionally inflammatory name because of technical wording that would infringe upon Roe v. Wade but wasn't opposed to the federal version with different wording. He's not in favor of leaving babies to die. For pete's sake, no one is. These kinds of bills are thrown around all the time by both sides just so they can use it as ammo against the other side later, things like Women's Human Rights bill and Anti-baby Mutilation Act, so when the other sides votes for or against their opponent can say, "you voted against women's human rights," or "you voted in favor of baby mutilation."
I hope for your sake

your brother or son are never on the wrong side of a divorce case that involves a politician.  To reach down from the Governor's office into a matter belonging to the trooper's direct superiors is nothing  but abuse of power and vindictiveness.  That should scare the blue right off your hair.


 


Get a life, for God's sake!
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Oh for Pete's sake, it won't work.

It will go underground.  Like it or not, it is tied now to big business.  You quoted it.  This will not induce responsibility.  You stand by your beliefs because you feel it just and it makes you feel good without much thought about the ramifications, the immediate and the future. 


It is this kind of behavior that drives me nuts.  This is the same behavior of why we as the United States are looked upon with such scorn pretty much around the world because we keep pushing our beliefs on others because we feel it just and it makes us feel good without much thought or regard to the people and the possible outcome.  Not to mention, it tends to prey on the weak.


I think the method of abortion is what gets you all riled up.  Would it make you feel better if abortions were all done chemically?  Probably wouldn't be near as adamant about it, the vividity of it is what gets your attention.  Too bad the site of bloodied, mangled, bodies of men, women, and children of those who die during war doesn't ignite the same fire in your heart.


George Carlin said this back in the 70s and it always stuck in my head.  "Religion is like a lift in your shoe, just don't nail lifts to the natives feet". 


Addendum for sake of clarity.
For the sake of clarity, the hearings on the The Imperial Presidency of GW Bush and Possible Legal Response are being conducted in the House Judiciary Committee, not the House of Representatives since, like the energy bill, Pelosi's position is one of "impeachment is off the table." Just how long she can keep it off the table is anybody's guess. John Conyers is skeptical by nature and, in the past, has been lukewarm and uncommitted one way or the other on impeachment. Evidently he has changed his mind when confronted with evidence he could no longer ignore. This was discussed by him during his interview on Democracy Now! in one of those programs back in June. Though he was not willing to comment on "an ongoing investigation," he did make it quite clear that he will exhaust all avenues in "getting to the bottom" of the issues that are being raised in this HDC process and take appropriate action.

http://thebivouac.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/rep-kucinich-takes-phone-caller-questions-on-impeachment-video/
Kucinich talking about HJC impeachment process, C-Span, Washington Journal. There is about 30 minutes of video here.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/35061
At this link, you will find these links:
Hearing on Impeachment Videos
Submitted by davidswanson on Sat, 2008-07-26 18:06.

Kucinich enters hearing to cheers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2MWTh0QF40
Rep. Robert Wexler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T1ojrKhp6E
Rep. Steve King:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eZxCloEbQk
Rep. Jerrold Nadler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hL7259BAP9s
Rep. Dennis Kucinich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRAcenaTVkQ
Bruce Fein:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80IphtHrFzg
Vincent Bugliosi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDAFozFn4kU
Bruce Fein:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXyDK2-p4fU
Vincent Bugliosi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q53p34yzZac
Vincent Bugliosi:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7abu9a0xtNI
Lamar Smith:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epf0QpeFcag
Rep. Baldwin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFNmanXtZ9o
Maurice Hinchey:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CHKV-7vvYk
Rep. Dan Lungren:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKc5e0oAvYM
Protesters ejected:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uosDxv1bjCc
Rep. Walter Jones:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iU5HKfes0cE
Congressman Steve Cohen:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZezNyKmKF1M

Oh for Pete's sake. Why should this be an issue? sm
The one that springs to mind is John Edwards $400 haircuts.

I mean, really. Of course they want her to look good while she's on the campaign trail.

Why don't you ask who pays for Obama's , or Michelle Obama's wives wardrobe? Oh wait, maybe those were paid for by the gazillions of dollars he gets donated by anonymous donors overseas....or wherever.


This is really a nonissue for most people. You all are just trying to rile things up.
For goodness' sake, where did critical thinking go?
It's an editorialized article that includes many statements and facts meant for the reader to consider. It's not something intended to be only true or not true. You're supposed to THINK about it and measure it against what you know and come to your own opinion about it, and if it jars you, check out the facts for accuracy yourself. What has happened to the right's ability to think soundly?
Heaven help us all
Lilly, I too am disheartened about what is going on in America, so much so that if I could move elsewhere, Canada, Australia, England, and know I could find a job, I gotta tell ya, I truly think I would leave.  It is hurtful for me to think that way as America is my country but the last five years have blown me away, physically and mentally.  I feel my heart has hardened and Im not as compassionate, I dont exercise like I should anymore, I dont eat like I should, I take an extra glass or two of wine, I am beginning to develop a who cares attitude, a fatalist attitude..as the *psychosis* in America grows..Its almost like the WWII movies I have seen..everyone partying excessively, drinking excessively..because they do not want to deal with the horrible reality..I know Im not the only one..I have talked to friends and family and there is an attitude that we cannot do anything to stop what is going down in our government..I think one of the things that hurts the most is our respect and credibility in the world..we are torturing people, we are imprisoning people and not presenting a cause, we invade a country which caused us no harm or ill will and we have destroyed one of the most ancient of countries..then we have the holy rollers shouting about end times..well, yeah, we are gonna cause the end times, fools..Something has to change..someone has to take control of this muderous hateful cancer of an administration..Three more years, OMG..Heaven help us all.
Well, thank heaven
I guess I can hold on until then.  I was just so looking forward to the heartwarming pictures and many minutes taken from legitimate news on the MSM to devote time to this.  Puppy's first romp on the WH lawn, puppy's first poo, all that. 
Because YOU would like to see ME in heaven, the

How about you worry about your own heaven worthiness and I'll worry about mine?  My **truth** lies in my own faith.  Whether I get to heaven or not is up to God, not YOU!


Do you even have the slightest inkling of how self-righteous, condescending, judgmental and insulting your posts are?


Then I don't want to go to your heaven
If I'm going to have to spend an eternity somewhere, I'd rather spend it with a Ghandi than, say, a pedophile who suddenly found Jesus. Do you really feel that the now God-fearing pedophile is a better, more worthy person because he found Jesus than Ghandi, who lived an exemplary life devoted to helping those left fortunate?
Oh, for pete's sake, stop with the Palin bashing... sm
We know that you hate her. Big surprise.

The more you bash McCain/Palin, the better they look.


Makes Obama look bad, the way his supporters trash her continually.




No one uses "peahen", so I insist on the "Mr." for sake of clarity.
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Do Jews go to heaven?
You might want to read the book in the Bible called Hebrews, which is a letter the apostle Paul, who was a Jew's Jew, wrote to the Hebrews.  The question should be, Is anyone going to heaven?  Heaven is the throne room of God.  None of us are going to spend eternity in heaven, but in the New Jerusalem. See the next to last chapter of the Bible, (chapter 21, verse 2).  Better yet, read the two last chapters of the Bible.  We are not actually going to the New Jerusalem, but we are becoming the New Jerusalem - a corporate entity composed of the triune God and all His believers. However, if you read the 1st verse of the book of the Revelation, we see that it is a book of signs.  The New Jerusalem is the ultimate sign. 
Most of 'em believe in heaven and he!!, too.
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Going to heaven has absolutely sm
NOTHING to do with our "goodness". It is only by the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and our acceptance of him can we go to heaven.

If you do not accept Jesus Christ as God's son, sent to die for our sins, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. You cannot be good enough or do enough good works to get into heaven. Only by belief in Jesus Christ, Gods son will any of us make it into heaven.

Being "born" into a religion has nothing to do with anything. Anyone, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, etc can decide to accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and follow him. it has nothing to do with "religion" but a "relationship" wtih Jesus Christ.
Get the facts - not fear - and for pete's sake stop being so nauseating
you probably don't know who I'm addressing it to and I want to keep it that way.

It's good you support your candidate, but this rhetoric back and forth, mine is more experienced than your, you'll be crying all the way to the polls while I'm laughing, blah, blah, blah.

Truth is we don't know who will win. One thing I'm seeing is most don't like any choice, but you hate one so much that you belittle the other side to prop yours up.

Also I'm not seeing anyone do any research. It's just mine has more experience than yours but no facts to back it up. Again - yada yada yada.

To me none of them are overly qualified. Some I can't stand, but I don't have that "I love this candidate or that candidate".

I just say stop belittling others until you can come up with hard facts as to why one is more qualified than the other. (well even then don't belittle others - just state the facts).
Oh, for Heaven's sakes.....you can't possibly
There are a LOT of good parents whose son/daughter couldn't control their hormones at age 17 and YOUNGER. When my children were teenagers, I couldn't follow them around all day and night. They heard me talk year after year about the consequences of having sex too early, even if they thought they had it under control. That's all I could do. I would ask where they would be, who with, and give them a time I expected them home or ELSE, but look sister, we all know things can get heated up very fast and it doesn't take but ONE time and a couple of minutes to get pregnant. I am relieved my daughter didn't find herself in that situation and I hope and pray my 20 something son won't either. He knows our feelings and we hope he acts responsibly.

Do you have children or teenagers and if so, do you follow them around all day, every minute of the day, even when you think they are where they say they are? I doubt it.

The young lady will have to deal with her decision and hopefully, her younger sisters will also learn from this.....don't go this route. That certainly doesn't mean I would give up on the mother. I do know good mothers whose daughters got pregnant and it did come as a shock, but I didn't automatically think, wow, what a terrible mother.
A time and purpose under heaven.
Politics and religion don't mix. The days of the Christian Right stranglehold on our secular republic are numbered. The resurrection of the old cultural liberalism can't get here soon enough to suit me. According to the latest polls, it seems I am not alone.
If McCain/Palin win...heaven help us all! (nm)
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For Pete's sake, I agree. Let me say, CARE PACKAGES ARE A GREAT THING TO DO!
Let's all send care packages. I will check out the web site you provided and if it's legit my heart and pocketbook will lead me. Trust me, to your surprise I'm not a stingy old witch sitting here not willing to give a dime to the troops but yet preach about how much I love them. Don't believe that, well then it only rains under your cloud.

Where the disconnect is, is that you think that people are not allowed to be against this war, against this administration, and still be for the troops. When you come here and tell us what the troops are asking for in the form of care packages, it ticks me off even more with this administration for putting them in this situation, but you have reminded me that they are with needs and wishes and for their sacrifice we all should give to them.

In discussing this, our conversation can not be limited to care packages. Let me applaud you in all sincerity for being proactive and on top of sending the packages you have put together. I know you will make someone in Iraq's day brighter, a big hats off to you! I just happen to think they shouldn't be in this predicament anyway and on that we may never see eye to eye and that's fine.

Oh geez..isnt that called *Heaven* ?
Oh geez, me  neither, Libby, me neither..but probably not in my life time.
So Jews go to heaven or must they convert to your religion first?

Just curious.


Please answer my question. Do Jews go to heaven?

I don't know where you live, but I live in the United States of America.  We have freedom of religion in this country, and I'm still allowed to believe in God even if I don't share your particular religious beliefs.  I thought God was the only one who passes judgment on people.  What gives you the right to judge me and others on this board so negatively?


Please answer my question.  Do Jews go to heaven? 


Simply put, those who have salvation are bound for heaven.
matter if a person is Jewish or not. 
If McCain/Palin win, Heaven has answered my
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Heaven sakes...I didn't mean you sounded racist
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