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Posted By: KSMT on 2009-05-25
In Reply to: In answer to your statement that there is - .-

NOTHING to do with our "goodness". It is only by the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ and our acceptance of him can we go to heaven.

If you do not accept Jesus Christ as God's son, sent to die for our sins, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. You cannot be good enough or do enough good works to get into heaven. Only by belief in Jesus Christ, Gods son will any of us make it into heaven.

Being "born" into a religion has nothing to do with anything. Anyone, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, etc can decide to accept Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and follow him. it has nothing to do with "religion" but a "relationship" wtih Jesus Christ.


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Heaven help us all
Lilly, I too am disheartened about what is going on in America, so much so that if I could move elsewhere, Canada, Australia, England, and know I could find a job, I gotta tell ya, I truly think I would leave.  It is hurtful for me to think that way as America is my country but the last five years have blown me away, physically and mentally.  I feel my heart has hardened and Im not as compassionate, I dont exercise like I should anymore, I dont eat like I should, I take an extra glass or two of wine, I am beginning to develop a who cares attitude, a fatalist attitude..as the *psychosis* in America grows..Its almost like the WWII movies I have seen..everyone partying excessively, drinking excessively..because they do not want to deal with the horrible reality..I know Im not the only one..I have talked to friends and family and there is an attitude that we cannot do anything to stop what is going down in our government..I think one of the things that hurts the most is our respect and credibility in the world..we are torturing people, we are imprisoning people and not presenting a cause, we invade a country which caused us no harm or ill will and we have destroyed one of the most ancient of countries..then we have the holy rollers shouting about end times..well, yeah, we are gonna cause the end times, fools..Something has to change..someone has to take control of this muderous hateful cancer of an administration..Three more years, OMG..Heaven help us all.
Well, thank heaven
I guess I can hold on until then.  I was just so looking forward to the heartwarming pictures and many minutes taken from legitimate news on the MSM to devote time to this.  Puppy's first romp on the WH lawn, puppy's first poo, all that. 
Because YOU would like to see ME in heaven, the

How about you worry about your own heaven worthiness and I'll worry about mine?  My **truth** lies in my own faith.  Whether I get to heaven or not is up to God, not YOU!


Do you even have the slightest inkling of how self-righteous, condescending, judgmental and insulting your posts are?


Then I don't want to go to your heaven
If I'm going to have to spend an eternity somewhere, I'd rather spend it with a Ghandi than, say, a pedophile who suddenly found Jesus. Do you really feel that the now God-fearing pedophile is a better, more worthy person because he found Jesus than Ghandi, who lived an exemplary life devoted to helping those left fortunate?
Do Jews go to heaven?
You might want to read the book in the Bible called Hebrews, which is a letter the apostle Paul, who was a Jew's Jew, wrote to the Hebrews.  The question should be, Is anyone going to heaven?  Heaven is the throne room of God.  None of us are going to spend eternity in heaven, but in the New Jerusalem. See the next to last chapter of the Bible, (chapter 21, verse 2).  Better yet, read the two last chapters of the Bible.  We are not actually going to the New Jerusalem, but we are becoming the New Jerusalem - a corporate entity composed of the triune God and all His believers. However, if you read the 1st verse of the book of the Revelation, we see that it is a book of signs.  The New Jerusalem is the ultimate sign. 
Most of 'em believe in heaven and he!!, too.
n/msg
Oh for heaven's SAKE
Hitler? Marx? You don't know what you are talking about, & bringing your religion into it gives your religion less credibility, doesn't give you more.

http://atheism.about.com/od/adolfhitlernazigermany/a/ChristFascism.htm
For heaven's sake
What's next, that pie he was eating looked exactly like Elvis? Good grief.
Oh, for Heaven's sakes.....you can't possibly
There are a LOT of good parents whose son/daughter couldn't control their hormones at age 17 and YOUNGER. When my children were teenagers, I couldn't follow them around all day and night. They heard me talk year after year about the consequences of having sex too early, even if they thought they had it under control. That's all I could do. I would ask where they would be, who with, and give them a time I expected them home or ELSE, but look sister, we all know things can get heated up very fast and it doesn't take but ONE time and a couple of minutes to get pregnant. I am relieved my daughter didn't find herself in that situation and I hope and pray my 20 something son won't either. He knows our feelings and we hope he acts responsibly.

Do you have children or teenagers and if so, do you follow them around all day, every minute of the day, even when you think they are where they say they are? I doubt it.

The young lady will have to deal with her decision and hopefully, her younger sisters will also learn from this.....don't go this route. That certainly doesn't mean I would give up on the mother. I do know good mothers whose daughters got pregnant and it did come as a shock, but I didn't automatically think, wow, what a terrible mother.
A time and purpose under heaven.
Politics and religion don't mix. The days of the Christian Right stranglehold on our secular republic are numbered. The resurrection of the old cultural liberalism can't get here soon enough to suit me. According to the latest polls, it seems I am not alone.
If McCain/Palin win...heaven help us all! (nm)
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Oh geez..isnt that called *Heaven* ?
Oh geez, me  neither, Libby, me neither..but probably not in my life time.
So Jews go to heaven or must they convert to your religion first?

Just curious.


Please answer my question. Do Jews go to heaven?

I don't know where you live, but I live in the United States of America.  We have freedom of religion in this country, and I'm still allowed to believe in God even if I don't share your particular religious beliefs.  I thought God was the only one who passes judgment on people.  What gives you the right to judge me and others on this board so negatively?


Please answer my question.  Do Jews go to heaven? 


Simply put, those who have salvation are bound for heaven.
matter if a person is Jewish or not. 
If McCain/Palin win, Heaven has answered my
nm
For heaven's sake, READ THE ARTICLE.
the part about charges dropped WITHOUT PREJUDICE. It means that the charges can be brought against him again AFTER the review has concluded and the new policies are in place. Also, pay especialy close attention to the part where it says that Abd Al-Rahim will REMAIN IN CUSTODY. Does that sound like a free pass?
Heaven sakes...I didn't mean you sounded racist
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Absolutely.....
They will keep us over there until they get all the booty they went there for.  Not FREEDOM.  Was never about FREEDOM!  Give me a break!  Where is OUR FREEDOM to get the h*** out of there!  Our freedoms are being pushed to the brink.  Have a buddy who was over there.  The people "reconstructing" Iraq are making THOUSANDS of dollars a week! Being paid by our gov't.  Do you think they want to come home to a few hundred a week?  Think NOT.  Nice, huh?  What a full scale MESS!
You are absolutely right
I agree with you, no more answering the nutcases from the republican board, LOL.  Not worth it..cant change a preprogrammed brainwashed stone into a feeling, caring human being.
You are absolutely right.
There IS no debate here. Just the irrational illogical mindless the sky is falling mentality of the far left.  I am new to these boards, but I have seen enough. 
ABSOLUTELY!!! sm
And this goes back further to when Clinton was still in office. He was fair game then too, on MTstars.

I'd never heard of Clinton being a rapist/serial sexual harasser (sp), until I read it on the conservative board earlier this year.
Yes, you are absolutely right
I got conned into jousting with this creature!!   Best to ignore!!!  Obviously they are not posting and playing with a full deck.  Pity is probably more appropriate!!!
Absolutely not...
Justify and argue history and the politics of war all you want. This is just your way of clouding an issue that is here and now.

I do not believe there was sufficient evidence for us to invade the country. It has been proven that the directive was to FIND a link between Hussain and Bin Laden after 911 to justify invading the country to look for AL Qaeda and no link was ever found. If they were hiding there and it was discovered AFTER the fact, well a bonus for Bush because the intelligence said otherwise.

The first line of failure was that they did not plan any policies for Iraq past the initial 60 to 90 day overthrow of Hussain. The second failure was that when it started to descend into chaos, he appointed the wrong people to take charge of it. He appointed Bremer, a man with no foreign policy experience, no middle east experience, no military experience, spoke no Arabic, and single handedly destroyed the country. The death of Sergio Viera DE Mello and the bombing of the UN building was a direct result of Bremer.

I don't care that he is not the first one to do it, and he won't be the last, and I certainly do not care that he is a Republican. I would be just as disgusted and angry if it had been a Democratic president. I hold him accountable for THIS one. He gave the order, he ignored the intelligence given to him, and then he walked away from it like soiled laundry.

Now when things are quite possibly at its worse and more money is needed to fund this nightmare, if Congress turns it down, he is going to lay blame for his failure at Congress's feet.

I do not think we should be held accountable for a mistake made by an egomaniac who continued on a disastrous course when the people who knew it best and were the closest to it were telling him the opposite.
Absolutely not
He is certainly not responsible for the statements of his minister and it doesn't change my opinion of him in anyway.

That said, he is not my first choice, but if it is between him and McCain, I will vote for Obama.
You are absolutely right - sm
There have been women of power raising children and have done a fabulous job at both.

However, this seems to be a rather unique situation simply because we are talking about the position of Vice President. It has to be a grueling job, whether you are constantly in the public arena or not.

Then there is the 16-year-old daughter. My sympathies are completely with that poor girl.

The teen years are traumatic enough without this garbage.

I think the responsible thing to do as a parent would be to concentrate on my kids and put them first. The very first seed of rumor should have been quashed immediately for the emotional safety of the daughter and step aside from the running.

Shame on Sarah Palin for even accidentally exposing her daughter to such a public scrutiny.

The kids come first. Rumor or not, she needs to step back and do damage control within her family and make sure her daughter doesn't suffer from this anymore than she already has.

Absolutely! And what's more is
he has intelligence.  Imagine that!  A president who is smart and thoughtful and will keep the Constitution!  What a concept!
Absolutely
Arnold has embarrassed us with his green crap, which is yet another way to tax us (those idiots actually don't know this).  He was always RINO Extraordinaire, anyway.  Actually, he never was even an R.  He faked it like Bloomberg.

Absolutely.
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if he is absolutely

certain he knows how to catch BinLaden and he puts country first it behooves him to tell anyone who will listen!!!!!


 


Absolutely none! It's not my job to
tell you what to think or think through YOUR decisions!!!  THINK FOR YOURSELF!!! That's what makes AMERICA a FREE country, so far anyway.  Do you actually believe that any statesmen of the congress would endorse Obama if he is in actuality as the rightwingers portray him? Get serious!  No self-respecting congressman would go out on a limb for that type of person.  Seriously.  It's not up to me to make your decisions for you, just use your God-given common sense.
I think you are absolutely right

I think it will be all over after the first debate. Obama's poll numbers creeping up, but after debate, will skyrocket.


 


 


I think they are both absolutely
ridiculous notions and have better things to do with my time than come up with constant arguments to prove my opinion is the right one.
Absolutely not
Didn't you read my post about my Senator and Representative?  They both voted for it and they are just as pork hungry as the rest of Congress!  I'm not laying it at the feet of the Republicans, the oposing Democrats as well as the Republicans could have held their ground.
You are absolutely right! (sm)

I should not have posted anything about myself, beliefs or opinions.  I should have checked all messages from you first to make sure that I would agree with you so as not to expose your narrow-minded views to anything other than just that.


I shall now be known as *Just the big bad* 


Absolutely
I've all but stopped looking at this board. It's so shrill at this point, such liberties taken with racial & religious prejudice in the name of nationalism, it makes me sick. Every time I poke my head up & see what the last few posts have been, there are more & more exclamation points. The anti-Obama faction is whipping itself into such a frenzy, producing blogs as evidence of whatever the current paranoia is, that this board has long since stopped being anything like intelligent discourse.
Absolutely.

Absolutely.  I just have such a strong belief in respect for one another.  We need to think about what our chidren/grandchildren are witnessing us and others do and say each day.  I don't care if the president is white, black, Indian, Asian, or otherwise...if he can just do his best for the country and, I know this is a long shot but, this not turn into a black/white issue.  He's just a person.  What does his skin color have to do with anything?  We are all just people. 


absolutely...
I merely stated that it does affect her paycheck. I disagree with gay marriage for other reasons, as well, but it is not just a ceremony, as she seemed to imply. Nobody proposed a law against ceremonies. They can feel free to do whatever they want as far as wearing dresses and such. The law is against the marriage in the eyes of the law.
Absolutely not s/m
However, in the end we'll have a version of theocracy that we sure won't like.  Hide in the bushes and watch.
Absolutely s/m
I believe eventually Iraq/Iran/Afghanastan will attack Israel.  I hope we come down on the side of Israel but I fear we won't.
I believe you are absolutely right.....sm
and in 4 years some of the same ones who are bestowing his virtues will be the loudest of the whiners. Obama is only a man and there was only one perfect man. We crucified him 2000 years ago.
I absolutely think so, too...
of course. I did paste it and only got a red screen, but it might just be my slow satellite internet. I do believe, however, that the government tries to do well by the soldiers and sailors. I know that my dad, who is a civil servant at a different Navy base, spends most of his time working on IED defense. We must keep in mind that this is a difficult war to fight because we have spent so much time and effort on technology that we have a hard time fighting people who use rudimentary weopons--i.e., the IED. I truly believe that NOBODY intends to hurt our troops, KBR included.
You are absolutely right....(sm)
I guess that wasn't the politically correct term....how about mentally stumped?
You are absolutely right....(sm)

I keep thinking of Kennedy.  I'm keeping my fingers crossed.  I just hope he doesn't try to do the convertable thing.  I think he mentioned doing it at one point.


I really don't think Bush will try the directive 51 thing or anything like that, although I wouldn't put it past him.


Absolutely!!! nm

You are absolutely right...
The justice screwed it up, and it took President Obama by surprise. He gave a look to the justice, and then the justice repeated it correctly.

That it being said, it is no use trying to reason with the Obama haters. They enjoy wallowing in misery and will go out of their way to find a reason to be miserable. Frankly, I revel in their misery!
You are absolutely right....(sm)
We should hold a party in his honor.  You get the ropes.  I'll get the water and the board.
YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT!
There is still a poster on here who was ignorant enough to ask who "stirred the pot"? That would be Obama. Another one didn't believe the families were not being allowed on the white house grounds.....news flash....that White House--- it BELONGS TO THE CITIZENS, not the government!


Another ask why didn't they approach Bush? Well, if they weren't so ignorant they would know that Bush didn't drop the charges against terrorists......he ain't kissing their butts! Obama allowed the dropped charges to take place.....

Get over it folks! Bush ain't there anymore......gonna have to spend your time figuring out how to blame others for all of Obama's failures now.
absolutely right..thank you...nm
nm
You are absolutely right!
Why should people be allowed to make a decent living wage and make you pay more for your Big Mac? I say, let's lower the minimum wage and cut the price of your Big Mac in half! By the way, would you like fries with that?
You are absolutely right.......

....we could keep at this for a week and never convince one another, which is fine.  We don't get to vote on this issue.  America has spoken.  We want change.  The dems will have enough votes in congress to ram this through without any input from you or me.  As AL Gore says:  The science is settled. The debate is over. 


But consider this:


1.  You have such a low opinion of our elected officials (what with the lobbying, bribing, the royal retirements and all) yet you want to turn your healthcare over to them exclusively?


2. If you or someone you love are denied by your insurance company, you might be grateful for the opportunity to accept charity or hock everything you own for the chance to get help.  Or you could just roll over and die.  Your choice.


3.  If the government tells you no, you only get to do the dying part. 


4.  If you haven't the energy to fight with WDGD (We Don't Give a Damn) Insurance, what makes you think you can take on the FBHR (Federal Bureau of Healthcare Rationing)?  


5.  Why should you be bankrupted by having to pay higher taxes to provide healthcare for me or my family? 


Just sayin'............


Anyhow, we both need to get a life, so I'm all finished posting about this subject