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so quit talking and start doing -- what's holding you

Posted By: back -- the fact that you've got nothing! on 2008-10-10
In Reply to: I mean if you really want to talk Palin, I can give - you Biden on a platter......nm

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Obama quit smoking at the start of his...sm
Campaign, so worry no more. (I think Obama smoked 1/2 to 1 pack a day.)

McCain is also a former smoker - 2 packs a day. How long either of them smoked, I don't know, but they are BOTH former smokers.

As far as the "radicals and communists" comment, you don't think McCain has "associated with" plenty of questionable people in his decades in government? I do.
When you start talking about...(sm)
free healthcare, you start getting into the pockets of the drug companies and those they support, and guess who that is. 
He probably did quit smoking. I quit 2-3 a year myself.
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I have been holding my tongue on that ...sm
It is interesting though. These were Bush, Reagan, Ford and Clinton appointees that made this decision (5-3). And I see where the right is upset, but to me it is pivotal that they followed the law and not beliefs and I'll tell you why.

Charles Lane, writer for the Washington Times wrote (see link below), *Brushing aside administration pleas not to second-guess the commander in chief during wartime, a five-justice majority ruled that the commissions, which were outlined by Bush in a military order on Nov. 13, 2001, ***were neither authorized by federal law nor required by military necessity, and ran afoul of the Geneva Conventions.*** As a result, no military commission can try Salim Ahmed Hamdan, the former aide to Osama bin Laden whose case was before the justices, or anyone else, unless the president does one of two things he has resisted doing for more than four years: operate the commissions by the rules of regular military courts-martial, or ask Congress for specific permission to proceed differently.*

Looking at it this way, *Bush* NOT the Supreme Court, has held this up for four years when he could have done the prior one or two things. No president can just willy nilly make up things as he goes without going through the proper channels. This case is no different. Checks and balances is taught in elementary nowadays. I predict as he ways he will, he will get with Congress and they will collectively make a decision on something that will bring the POWs to justice (wishful thinking).

Do I want to see bin Laden's assistant, or any other war criminals walk? No, especially not the perpetrators in the 9-11 attacks. That's something I do not want to see come of this decision, but we must respect our own democracy in seeking justice.

This is just my opinion of what I understand is going on with the decision. If anyone can shed some more light on it I'd appreciate it. Have a good holiday weekend!
I'm not holding my breath......sm
I'll believe Obama gives me a tax cut when it happens, as well as help out with my health insurance. Can't tell from his website how "exactly" that's going to happen. His website if filled with a whole lot of words that are meaningless to me. Sounds good, but I don't see a lot of substance there, just like when he was campaigning.

Not holding my breath, but I'll come back and tell you if either of those things happen.



Not a Republican even though I leaned towards McCain over Obama, since he's such an unknown (and still is), and I actually decided I couldn't vote for McCain either....so my vote went to neither of them.


Who's holding a gun to your head? Don't like him
Simple as pie. Why spend your life being angry and posting these pathetically juvenile insults? Nothing better to do?
What's holding Edwards back?

Still holding out that last desperate hope
DNC has proven this over and over and over and over and over again. Burden or proof is now on the Berg the Boob.
the world is holding their breath
After 9/11 would the United States really elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama?
Right now on C-Span, they are holding hearings
for the auto bailout. It's just starting.
We're not holding our breath. Owning up
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James Montgomery, Esq. is holding a press

conference. Jesse Jackson, Jr. is "candidate #5" and he thinks Blagojevich should step aside and resign and let the Lt. Gov. take over. He states JJ, Jr. is qualified for the position. 


He states JJ, Jr. is not guity of anything. He is not worried about any consequences of this except the media frenzy that is being created by this. If the meeting between the Gov. and JJ, Jr. was taped, they have no concern over it.


He (JJ, Jr.) will be speaking with the investigators on Friday or Monday. He will be holding a press conference in 15-16 minutes.


There is a picture of her in a bathing suit holding
a gun...does that count?
Holding people accountable and blaming

people are 2 different things.  Blaming either party will get us nowhere.  The situation is upon us and the blame game is only holding up the resolution.


Holding people accountable may help to prevent a similar situation in the future.  Holding someone accountable means owning up to their part in the problem and making retribution to fix the problem.  If someone went along with this and gained financially from it, then that person should be accountable - own up and pay up.  If someone went along with this and gained politically, then that person should be accountable - own up and give up (your position). 


I took serious offense to your comment because you didn't say it was directed to the politicians on the hill.  You said as a general statement to all dems. 


It isn't the Navy holding her child support

The federal government has rules concerning how much of someone's paycheck that you can garnish.  I personally was in the Navy (in payroll of all things) and when I went through my divorce, the court ordered a whole $325 a month for 2 kids (both in daycare at $120/week/per kid).  We were both discharged just prior to the divorce and he purposely took a job that paid $6 an hour, working 20 hours a week.  The judge, out of the kindness of his heart, based the child support on him making $6/hr at 40 hours, not the 20 he was working.  He was capable of making more, but wanted to tick me off.  BUT, you cannot garnish more than 60% of ones wages and if back support is owed, not more than 65% with the 5% going to pay off the arreage. 


There are certain things that you can take into consideration when they garnish your wages (most states make it mandatory now).  In the military, they cannot include your food ration money, housing money, uniform money and whatever extras they have these days.  They can only include your base salary.  Being that military pay royally sucks, I can see where they are not handing over everything that is owed, especially if he is lower ranking. 


I know it bites the big one and I feel for your daughter, being that I have been there, but she can get through it and be stronger for it.  She needs to show her kids that she can hold her head up high and trudge on.  I'll keep her in my prayers.


Thinking good thoughts and holding him up...:-) nm
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Not bickering. Holding feet to fire. Like GP...
and I agreed to. Have a good night!
If that's the case, I'm holding a bake sale.
If my sending money to Israel can help them buy bombs to nuke the Palestinians off the face of the planet, I'm cutting them a check right now.

KaBOOOOOOM!

Mazel tov!
I'm not predicting anything...just holding onto that new 4-letter word
YES WE CAN
Oh...forum domination. Someone holding your hands behind your back....
and preventing you from posting? Or don't you have a cause you care enough about TO post?
That was not the question....Gitmo is a holding area for terrorists...
The Hanoi Hilton housed American soldiers. And yes, I think it is VERY important that a presidential candidate is a patriot, has integrity, strong in the face of unimaginable pressure, and puts his country even before himself. Yes, I think all those are VERY strong criteria for the Presidency. Obama has nothing in his resume to indicate that he is that patriotic, that UNself-serving, showed that he put his fellow prisoners above himself...and you compare that to a terrorist in Gitmo. Good grief. ??
Yep...and today he is holding a town hall in France...
yukking it up with Europe as his own country circles the drain....pittiiiffullll.
Remember Bush holding hands with Prince Abdullah???
So as far as reading anything into Obama trying to get our nation back on the right track, thank God what was here before no longer around.
Hopefully everybody will quit!
And they can stop building and maintaining sports arenas, etc., etc., on the backs of the smokers - sin tax anyone? You can bet your sweet patootie, there'd be rioting (in the Senate) if they tried taxing alcohol as hard as they tax tobacco.
I don't have to quit anything........
the lies, corruption, abuse of power, shredding the constitution, voiding the Geneva Convention, on and on and on - ALL unforgiveable!!  If you forget the past, you are condemned to repeat it. Screw Bush - I hope he fries in he!! along with his neo-con nazi followers.
Exactly! Maybe if he'd quit doing that
we'd stop ragging on him!
I don't think most smoker's will quit just to

but I agree with you to some extent.  I think most American's would be happy to have their taxes raised a little bit if it meant saving the life of even 1 child or improving the health of a chronically ill child.  I certainly wouldn't mind having my taxes raised to help children AND the elderly get more affordable healthcare.  On the other hand, for now the cigarette tax is a great idea, and if it does help some people quit, more power to them!  I'm sure you see the same thing I do in medical reports every day though - people with COPD, asthma, lung cancer - still smoking!!  If impending death isn't enough to make a lot of people quit I don't think $1 extra per pack will either.


come on sam quit hiding

be a man, sign your posts.


 


If you are sick of it, then why don't you quit

going to get rich somehow with Obama in the White House.  This stuff doesn't happen overnight.


Furthermore anyone with a 401K or stocks know that there is a downside.  You don't always win...  So who is looking for free money now?  Oh the stock holders are??????  These are the same people that live the good life.  Well too bad!   You lose because you put your faith in the stock market...  Oh well..  Do I feel pity?  Nope.  Not when there are people struggling just to make minimum wage. 


I was born with no money in my hand and I'll die with no money in my hand.  Makes no difference to me really. 


Anyone with any sense knows "you can't take it with ya'."  Savor the moment. 


All of you republicans out there that think McCain is going to somehow turn this country around are in for a big shock when he gets in there.  The joke is on him.  He thinks this Palin person is going to get him in, and he's oh so wrong!  I have to wonder if he really is demented.  Really?????


me too - who else plans to quit
Why work. There are no incentives. Why should I work when my money will be taken and given to people like Peggy Joseph who stated she won't have to work to buy gas and she won't have to work to pay her mortgage.


Well, I did quit for a whole 3 weeks
one time. After that, I went downhill the next couple times I tried.Made it a whole 5 hours.
Ah, quit your whining, you're just a know-nothing
God help us, PK, this is the best response we can elicit. I can hear them already. I guess it's easier to just DENY, DENY, DENY and swiftboat than face the truth. Where,exactly, does the proverbial buck stop? javascript:editor_insertHTML('text','');
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Well then quit threatening to leave
because you just keep getting my hopes up.

Stay or leave I really don't care, because the sane people who are the MAJORITY in this country will protect us all from the likes of you...a hate filled leftist.


Oh, Sam, quit making so much sense.
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No he doesn't. He quit when she became governor.
What if he did? Thousands of people work for oil companies. And if you want to keep driving your car and putting oil in your furnance and all the million other products in the world that require petroleum, I am thinking you should hope they continue to.
You're the one who keeps responding. Just quit your...sm
harassment.

I was speaking to you, no matter how you try to twist the converation, and say I can't follow the thread. Period.


She was very confident. Quit the bashing.
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If you were a "good little communist" and quit...sm
your job, the Russians would have shipped you off to Siberia. For us that would equate to Alaska. Maybe that's where you should head anyway after election day when Obama wins by a wide margin.
He quit after he started his campaign
has fallen off the wagon several times during the campaign, just FYI.
You can quit kissing butt now
we get the point.

Geez.
The Spheris CEO quit yesterday, too.
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I do not hate Bush...please quit..
saying that. That remark wasn't aimed at me, but I want to respond. Just because I, for one, do not care for him as president, do not trust his decisions, and think he is a moron, does not mean I hate him. I actually feel sorry for him because I don't think he even realized what the job involved. I think he was talked into running by the Republican party. Kind of like you talk a kid into something. I think George Bush had an easy ride as far as criticism the first few years of his term. A lot of people believed he walked on water. Even though I did not vote for him and did not believe he had all the character that he was hyped up to have, I never "hated" the guy. I don't hate him now. I'm just saddened and sickened by the eight wasted years with him in office and all of the damage that the Republican and the Democrats in Congress have allowed to happen under his reign. Many say he has a good heart and that may be true, but he did not and does not have the mental ability to hold such a position in good or hard times. Sorry if this offends any Republicans or Bush supporters, but my God surely you have to agree this probably sweet husband and good father was bilked into the presidency by his cronies so they could have a wheeling-dealing good ole time...and they did...just look at us now. We are paying for it and will for a long time.
I would quit trying to talk to these lefties.
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I quit because it was expensive, so it might work for some...
In Washington I was paying almost $7/pack if I bought them out in town. I really think that the tax money on cigarettes would be better spent funding Medicare for the people who have developed emphysema from smoking. It would be like your own little medical savings account, you just have no choice but to put money in it, unless you quit smoking. You really should consider quitting, though, JTBB. I feel so much better since I quit. But that is all I will say because it really is none of my business and I am sure you have heard that enough times!
And what happens when more smokers quit? Who is going to pay for the unfunded sm
mandate then? I say spread the pain around now and find a viable way of paying for the program.
I really wish you would quit this childish stuff.
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At some point we do have to quit whining
and do something for ourselves.  Perpetual victimhood is not healthy.
Biden's son quit as a lobbyist on August 25
Letter was not released until yesterday. No cigar.
Kathleen Parker wants Palin to quit.
Criticism of John McCain from the right has escalated this week, from George Will to the Wall Street Journal's editorial page. But some conservatives, in the wake of the Katie Couric interview, are also having second thoughts about Sarah Palin. Popular syndicated columnist and TV pundit Kathleen Parker, for example, has seen enough.

In a surprising post at National Review's site, she calls for Palin to step aside for the good of the country (and benefit of her family), saying she is out of her depth.

Parker writes: "No one hates saying that more than I do. Like so many women, I’ve been pulling for Palin, wishing her the best, hoping she will perform brilliantly. I’ve also noticed that I watch her interviews with the held breath of an anxious parent, my finger poised over the mute button in case it gets too painful. Unfortunately, it often does. My cringe reflex is exhausted.

"If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself. If Palin were a man, we’d all be guffawing, just as we do every time Joe Biden tickles the back of his throat with his toes. But because she’s a woman — and the first ever on a Republican presidential ticket — we are reluctant to say what is painfully true.

"What to do?

"Only Palin can save McCain, her party, and the country she loves. She can bow out for personal reasons, perhaps because she wants to spend more time with her newborn. No one would criticize a mother who puts her family first. Do it for your country."
I hope you are not that small minded. You may quit your job
any time you like and apply for welfare and see if you get it.  Maybe, Bush will let you draw it now.
Then quit asking questions and posting messages
If people stopped posting then it wouldn't have come to this.