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Selective memory must be nice. The point is sm

Posted By: sm on 2005-09-20
In Reply to: Whatever. No one hounded them off. sm - Democrat

They were on their own board.  THAT IS THE POINT.  Who cares what you think?


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Well, Obama has selective memory when it comes
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You have a selective memory...not surprising for a liberal.

Either you can't read, or you've just proved her point. Nice going.
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You too with the selective amnesia. (nm)
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Republicans and their selective constitutionalism. sm
Where were they when Bush trampled all over the constitution? Here is a good article by Chuck Baldwin who is a "real conservative."

http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/c2008/cbarchive_20081209.html




You must be a selective reader...lots of facts posted by the right...nm

Yet another selective liberal mind, hard at work...(sm)
You seriously don't remember all the hoopla about Obama quotes from his books that were played over and over, that surely stand alone...and yet, according to his ardent followers, were taken out of context.

You seriously don't remember his remarks about Pennsylvania gun owners and religion?


Oh wait, these don't count. They were....taken out of context. He didn't mean what they say he meant.


However....when it's done to a conservative (Rush), he's, well....all those things the previous poster said he was....god forbid you should listen to the rest of what he says, and why.....his comments stand alone......





Memory lapse
I don't post much anymore.  There is not much outrage left in me these days.  Things just go from bad to worse.  There was a time I could remember and reiterate all the shenanigans in DC, from just juvenile personal behavior to outright lawbreaking but there is just so much happening so often that I can't remember anymore. One scandal after another after another after another.  If ever a government was broken, it is this one.  None of these candidates can do a thing about it and I believe that is because of American complacency. We have brought this on ourselves.Oh so many people are worried about Barak and his lack of experience.  For the last 2 elections we have placed and replaced in office a man with no experience whatsoever, one who with all his advantages had never even been out of the country but nobody cared, complancency. Less than 50% of us vote. Impeachments could be issued left and right but none of us seem to care enough about what is going on to pursue that.  This administration has been conservatism on mega steroids.  Not only do they believe in less goverment, I think they believe in NO government at all.  I really do.  They just do what they do, everybody walks, incompetency abounds, I can't even begin to address the Middle East lunacy, New Orleans, leaks, leaks, leaks, lies, lies, lies, paranoia runs deep in the heartland, etc.  Politics are about the most inconsequential, unimportant, ridiculous bits of fluff to ever fill the airways these past few weeks. The only thing I care about this election is "Can you fix it?, any of it?"  I don't care if you are a Hindu, a Jain, a Lutheran, a Mormon or a Jehovah's Witness or nothing.  I don't care how many times you have been married or if you are gay, transgendered, have children in prison or on drugs or both. I don't care what your position is on same-sex marriage or abortion.  Can you fix this broken government. Can you get us out of the middle east. Can you get us health care. Can you educate our kids. Can you explain to those opposed to immigration in terms that they understand that the problem lies with American greed, our broken government and the fact we all seem to need to have someone to hate...this time its the Mexicans and no matter what anyone says, when illegal alien, immigrant, whatever word is used, translation is Mexican. If all the immigrants were blond-haired, blue-eyed Swedes I don't think there would be much of a "crisis."  The immigrants didn't take over the auto industry or the clothing industry or any of the manufacturing industries. We gave them to China. Having lived 20+ years in Florida with immigrant workers I don't know when it was they became a "crisis" but I suspect it was when someone in DC needed diversion from a truly criminal act and hating is so easy. None of us can really save this country. Creator can but, IMHO, until we start having the courage to behave with honor and dignity towards our fellow man and the creation that Creator has loaned us to live upon, I think we are doomed.
Short memory span?

Is there a reason why you repeat yourself over and over and over and over and over and over again?  Rehashing the same ridiculous complaints over and over and over and over and over and over again? 


Why don't you post the butt in a chair thing a few more times?  You guys have called us more or less drugged out hippies with references to what we must be smoking, what we must have been doing in the 60s and our hookahs.  You ain't exactly perfect.  Now if I post this paragraph about ten more times you might get the idea, right?


More like outdated and slanted memory!
Your sources are 4 and close to 5 years old and the primary sources of the first article are Foxnews.com and another source that has the catchy address of reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info.  So you're saying that the reasons-for-war-with-iraq.info website is more accurate than the Pentagon and the 9/11 commission?  As I always say, I want to read stuff that's not from far-far left or right wing sources.  I also want it to be a little more timely.
may I refresh your memory... respectfully...
George Bush had the same absence of checks and balances in his favor.

Didn't really work for us, right? Let's see how it works swingin' this way.
Memory does not serve you correctly.
began long before the dems to control of Congress. Do some research before you spout your partisan blather. That is exactly what is wrong with this country and this board. You are too busy placing blame, whether deserved or not, to realize that you do not know the truth. You believe spin, not facts.

Look up Glass-Steagall, Gram-Leach-Blilley, toxic mortagages, and packaged derivatives if you really want to know how this began. If not, well continue to blather.

Don't bother to respond. I am not bothering to come back here. I thought this board would be different because it is MTs who use their brains for a living, but I guess MTs can be trolls too, as proven by a majority of the posts here. Luckily, I did find a board where, even though they disagree, they do so with logic, intelligence, and reason.

Good luck to you all. You are going to need it.

His memory is no more 'selective' than the current Pres..
and his cronies...
you brought back a dear memory for me

My late Mother, who was Pres. of the County RNC (with 6 kids, mind you), used to tell us kids, "you just wait."  Boy, was she ever right.  I was going to fund-raisers for Goldwater in grade school, so that gives you an idea how old I am (51).


Anyway, Mother had these stickers s she'd put on letters saying "America is a Republic, not a Democracy." 


The bulk of the the


No, Lollipop - no copy/paste......my memory serves me well....nm
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I think BB has a point here in that the main point on the board is political discussion, and let'
face it, there is SO MUCH going on right now, changes, problems, disasters, and so much debate on what should/could be done, but so many tims the political discussion disintegrates in a finger-pointing, name-calling exercise, spouting religion all over the place. Yeah, our spiritual beliefs are dearly held and we would all strive to be the best we can be, and do whatever we can whatever the ideology is, but sometimes I wonder, since we have a board EXPRESSLY for Faith isuues, where relgious debates/discussions/forums, etc are welcome, why does THIS board have to be turned into RELIGION BOARD PART II, especially if one ideology wants to dominate or ridicule/condemn those who come on here for lively inteligent discussion, debate of issues in Congress and in our lives, and just want their beliefs held separately? CNN is not EWTN or any other Christian network, and there are constant informative, bright, lively, balanced discussions from all over the political spectrum on the credentialed news stations, as well as C-Span, but they are not constantly hiding behind a cross, rosary, bible, star of David, or whatever....can we not strive to do the same and put religious debate on the Faith board?? Just a thought to ponder, MHO, it might work beter, who knows?
is the the starting point or the end point for the middle class?
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I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.

Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming my world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction. They are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say?
I answered your post point-by-point and
all you can come up with is a lame tit-for-tat? Can you provide some sort of substantive response that would argue against the point I am trying to make here? Of course not.

Please show me what part of my post reflects bigotry or ignorance? I have made a few statements based on my own life experience, rather than the hook-line-and-sinker method of forming a world view. Then the impotence of your suicide bomber reference was buried under concrete evidence of informed, researched and factual data that would suggest an oppressed, occupied, half-starved population does not exactly have the upper hand when it comes to defending themselves against Israel's US-bankrolled arsenal of pain, misery, death and destruction they employ in order to "secure" themselves.

The Palestinians are just a tad out-gunned, wouldn't you say? This might just account for the lop-sided fatalities/injuries ratios between the Israelis and the Palestinians. In closing, it is worth noting that even with the advantage of all those terrorist toys and tools our tax dollars have bestowed upon them, security and peace of mind just seem to be further and further beyond their reach. Wonder why that is?
Not nice.
Of course conservatives are wrong.  And often.  I am one, so I should know.  What I am NOT is a neocon.  That word gets used a lot here and it is used incorrectly.   I am not the original poster but I wanted to point that out. 
Really nice, isn't it?
Not all of them are gone, but a lot were removed.  Smells a lot better on the Liberal Board today, though it probably won't last.
It's really nice to have you here.
As you can see, you may also be called names on this board, as well.  The monitor has asked that they stop, but they continue to do it.  If they begin to attack you here, I hope you will just consider the source, laugh it off and continue to post here because they aren't important and certainly don't represent the majority of normal Americans.
Exactly....have a nice day. :) nm
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nice

When a woman gets attacked by a man with knife, do you condemn her because she didn't fight back hard enough?I say condemn the attacker, not the attackee....you attack folks and then condemn them because there feelings where hurt instead of addressing the real problem which is your bullying. 


Nice try, but no....
I started posting here about 3 years ago, and there was no observer but me. If there was one before that, I had no way of knowing that. Taiga did not "steal" Teddy's moniker. They were always the same person, just posting under two different monikers. I have posted under two...Independent for awhile, and then Observer. Observer was not in use when I changed to that moniker, and if there was one before my time...as I stated...I have no way of knowing that. Again...did not accuse Taiga of stealing the Teddy moniker. She posted under both.
Nice. (sm)
Fortunately your opinion on this subject means nothing to me. Those who want to pray will. Those who don't, won't. It is a free country,and while no one can force you to pray, no one can force us not too either. Much as you would like to have that control. What a myopic view of life you have. Party line vote Dem or die and dam* anyone who doesn't agree with you. Sounds decidedly UNdemocratIC to me.
nice try

This comes from the same pinheads who were absolutely certain that Rush would go outta business when Clinton got elected.  Yeah, right!  20 million listeners at least, and HOW many hundreds of millions later?


And y'all actually think Keith Overbite & Mr. Potato Head actually discuss news seriously when 1 has crabs or something crawling up his leg?  And give up the opiates re Rush.  He fixed that problem, but didn't do the resume enhancement like the celebutards do.  Start that empty crap & I'll just keep listing their names.


And just to clarify things, in case anyone didn't catch the post about the NAGS, that's Rush's pet name for the National Assn of GalS.  I knew I wasn't the only Dittohead on the embarrassment of a board.


Face it. Y'all have nothing to offer here, just empty insults and thrills over women "choosing" to kill babies.  That's the only definition y'all have of "choice."  Funny, but I thought choice was supposed to mean that the woman decided either way. Nice try once again.


nice try....but NOT

I take you comparing me to Sam as a compliment though as I do value a lot of the same opinions.


However, once again, instead of actually coming on with facts and trying to prove an actual point, I find someone who just spats out anything.  I was not the one who started this post.  I was just stating my opinion and sharing some experiences I've had raising horses and what has happened in the past when deer hunting was not allowed.  Those are things that I have seen first hand. 


That would be nice!

Doubt that will happen, but my husband and I could pay off the house we just built, have money for the kids college education, etc. 


oh come on... he seems like a nice
and he wants change.... give him a break... LOL.....

I'M WITH YOU!!! PEOPLE ARE SO INTO HEARING WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR THAT THEY ARE BLIND!!!!!!
nice
from yet another who cannot back up what exactly obama stands for besides "change"... hmmm

there was nothing psychotic about her post.
It would be nice
there was help for those who help themselves.... not just help themselves to handouts.
That might be nice, but don't look to
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Nice Try

Our economy is in a bad way, so what does "O" do?  Raise taxes!  What on earth are y'all thinking!  So taking $ from you to give to someone else makes sense?


This is comparable to the women who went totally nuts over the Beatles! 


Check your taxes for 2007, 2008, then 2009.  The facts will speak for themselves.


Just more white guilt, too, which is also pitiful.


that sure was nice!
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Nice try

Yeah, that so-called nutjob recently signed another long-term contract (7 years, I believe) for how many millions?


I never miss his show. 


Have you ever actually listened to his show?  You'd like his official Obama Criticizer, Bo Snerdley.  You can find clips on google. 


When I got married, we used his theme song to announce the wedding party at the reception


You just said she was nice. Why don't you
accept her as she is then if she is a nice person.  Maybe she wants to raise her baby is a safe place.  I live in Arizona and the only illegal immigrants I have a problem with are the drug dealers who bring their dope across the border.
its nice to see him in an

informal setting.  Every pol goes for a photo op once in a while, just to remind you they are around.  I enjoy seeing him smile and interact with people.  He makes me smile.  God Bless America, how fortunate we are to have him at this time in history.


 


 


 


nice try
I dont think so.  I am an American.  As a matter of fact I was a soldier and I helped defend this country.  So dont even try to tell me that I am not American and I should leave just because I don't like or agree with the present administration.  Do I hope that Obama will be all that people need?  Sure.  Do I think he will do it?  No.  That has nothing to do with my American pride or heritage.  This country was founded on many things that are not in effect today and I dont have to blindly support things that are blatantly wrong with our government.  Most politicians are liars and crooks and our government is not a representation of our country.  Our country is hard working American people who have built this land up based on dreams, faith, hard work, and pride.  Our government is supposed to answer to us, not us to them.  You have the wrong idea and should not categorize people based on whether they like Obama or not.  That is why we VOTE and have the FREEDOM to choose who we want in OUR office. 
Thank you. Nice to know I'm not alone
I liked Sarah Palin a lot and was the main reason I was leaning more towards their camp. I actually kept going back and forth. I liked Obama, then I liked Sarah, then I liked Obama, then I liked Sarah. I could not make up my mind. But I liked Gov. Palin a lot. Washington needed a new face. Someone not on the inner circles and corrupted by Washington politicians/lobbyists. She said things as she saw them. She was the only one out of all of them who had the qualifications. She was a governor and knows how to balance a budget. If she believed in something she stuck to it. She didn't give in and say one thing then run over to a different group and say another thing. Like some people did. You want to talk about experience? Obama had less experience than she did. As for her saying things and making mistakes. Nobody has a right to say anything about that because your all okay with Biden saying the most @ssnine things. You didn't like that she carried her baby around, but you were okay with Biden carrying around his grandson everywhere (talk about an obvious prop). He'd look around for the camera then grab his grandson and make sure the camera saw him carrying him. I liked the way Sarah spoke. She spoke the truth and to the point. Sorry it's not fancy/sleezy enough for the Washington crowd. She/McCain had ideas for how to get the people back working again. Now look what we've got. Someone who just keeps telling us its going to get worse, passed a bill that creates no jobs for the country and nothing to stimulate the economy, and is punishing the people who are hard working and trying to survive. Just more money for them to line the pockets of the politicians. But then again it doesn't matter what we thought because the people have no control over who is elected. Obama had been selected a long time before the election even began.

I liked Sarah Palin and I don't care what anyone says. She was a real human being. You can slam me all you want. Sure there were other candidates I would have supported, especially every time Biden spoke. He's puts his foot in his mouth every time he speaks and it's becoming more and more evident this guy is either going senile or truly does not know what he is doing. No wonder why the WH keeps him behind locked doors.

But it's all a double standard. People say she didn't have experience, don't vote for her, we have to have someone with experience. Then when it's brought up about Obama's lack of experience (i.e. no experience) we hear. You gotta give the guy a chance. They trashed her personal life, but when anyone spoke about Obama's personal life they were told don't talk about his personal life it has nothing to do with his being president. When people said, you can't bring Palin in, she's not Washington, she's an outsider, but when they were told well Obama is new and he hasn't been in Washington very long himself (i.e. no experience) and has been in Illinois most of his life we were told we need a fresh face in Washington. When we brought up Palin's balancing the budget we were met with Obama got a bunch of people registered to vote. You just can't win. None of what I wrote pertains to anyone on this board, it's what was in the news. And I was watching MSNBC during the election because I was voting democrat, but was interested in Palin. And the best of them all was when people were asked "So you're voting for Obama because of his policies? and they answered yeah, then when asked "So if Obama is elected President you wouldn't mind Sarah Palin as the VP?" And they all said "No, I think she'd make a fine VP". HA HA HA. What's that Master card commercial where at the end it says "Priceless".
Nice try, but once again
no cigar.
It would be nice if EVERYBODY would

follow the rules of this board, but some apparently think they are above the rules.


The two posters you pointed out are not the only ones who call other posters names, especially in the last week or so that I've noticed, but the instead of falling into the argumentative mode, you need to ignore their posts.


It is nice to know that our

economy is in ruins, we have spies interfering with our electronic grid, our president bows to the Saudi King, every country still hates us even with Obama's major butt kissing and you are concerned about Levi and Bristol?  Who cares.  How many teenagers really stay together even when there is a baby involved?  This isn't a matter of national security.  It is a teenage girl who screwed her boyfriend and got knocked up and then they broke up.  Like that never happens anywhere else in the world.


I personally couldn't care less if Levi and Bristol broke up.  Who cares?  If you like teenage drama, you might want to watch the N channel and get your fill with Degrassi or something and keep this nonsense off the political board.


nice..
very Christian of you saying her husband is as messed up as she is. showing your true colors.
It would have been nice if instead of
just throwing our country under the bus and calling us arrogant and apologizing if he would have also listed the good things that we have done for other countries.  Instead he just says that we are arrogant and apologizes and blames Bush.  Our country has done a lot of good things for others too.  Why does Obama constantly focus on the bad things.  Does he think that constantly bringing up bad things will make people like us more?  He is really naive and stupid if he thinks that.  If Obama really wanted to move forward, he needs to stop the blame game and MOVE ON!  This is his administration now....not Bush's.  Yes, Obama inherited a mess but I don't see him doing much cleaning up of this mess.  I see what he is doing as making things worse.....not better and that isn't Bush's fault.
Aw, that's so nice! =)
See? People with differing opinions CAN get along on this board - just have some respect for each other like these two posters.

You are both an example for the rest to follow.
Nice try....almost...(sm)

Sending pics as proof?  That's hilarious....I'm absolutely sure they would be of you...ROFL.


Sorry, but your little ploy to make it look like that was an acceptable joke to the black community is just simply not working.


Maybe you should do some research next time.


Nice try....almost...(sm)

Sending pics as proof?  That's hilarious....I'm absolutely sure they would be of you...ROFL.


Sorry, but your little ploy to make it look like that was an acceptable joke to the black community is just simply not working.


Maybe you should do some research next time.


he looks like a really nice guy, too...
I am reminded of an old friend's mom years ago saying "I just don't know what's to become of us all".
If your point is that it was 7 years ago, that's not much of a point is it? sm
Not long ago at all in the scope of things. The point is that the same thing could and probably would happen here. 9-11 happened 7 years ago too....I guess that couldn't happen again, huh?
I get your point, but my main point is -
why should the government be allowed to tell people what they can and can't eat? Everyone says the government is too involved in our business anyway, so if they should stay out of one part of our lives, they should stay out of all parts of our lives!