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funny, sam didn't want the last word on this

Posted By: one. I wonder why? on 2008-09-29
In Reply to: so every single pub voted for it and no pub - benefited from any of this mess?

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never saw the S-word written like that before - too funny
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In a word, no. Besides that, it didn't work for them
Same thing by the same people, expecting a different result? Let's see how well that works for them.
I didn't think it was funny
It was stooping to a new low for EITHER candidate.  One thing that I did notice was McCain's barely contained temper, my husband and I kept waiting for him to totally lose it.  I saw some anger on Obama's part too, mostly body language.
That's funny....he didn't seem to mind sticking
while, as just a Senator, he was out hob-knobbing with everyone in the middle east (the Obama tour) which he should not have been doing. He was acting as if he was the president, which he wasn't, and many democrats were not liking that as well.
your post explains why you didn't think it was funny
Crats just don't have a sense of humor like the rest of us. PS - I am a liberal. If there is one equally as funny about the conservatives I would post. But pretty much all of these are true - and funny.
No more than the bad taste you are displaying being so nitpickey over this matter..funny you didn
have anything to say about how the outgoing President treated Obama when he would not allow him and his family to stay at the Blair House which is customary for an incoming President reside until he takes office because Bush had a friend of his their (I believe it was some politician) from Australia staying there.  Now THAT is definitely in bad taste.
You cannot type it word for word, just provide a link.
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I remember the debate. And of course this is not word for word, I NEVER said...sm
*because I'm not.* This is a LIE that I got tired of arguing with them about then. Unless you are confusing me with an old poster that went under the moniker Demo.
Sambo thinks last word=best word...
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yep. Its Fox. Just googled it. word for word. nm

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Not one word. One defitinion of a word.
Cult: 1. A system of religious worship or ritual.

Or how about this:

Cult: A system or community of religious worship and ritual.

Or my personal favorite:

Cult: A self-identified group of people who share a narrowly defined interest or perspective.

already heard this - wasn't funny then, not funny now!
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I didn't miss any part and didn't say...
anything either way. I just posted a link.
This is the reason we are in Iraq and it's the same reason I didn't vote for him in 2000: Didn't

his own personal reasons.


http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20050620/why_george_went_to_war.php


The Downing Street memos have brought into focus an essential question: on what basis did President George W. Bush decide to invade Iraq? The memos are a government-level confirmation of what has been long believed by so many: that the administration was hell-bent on invading Iraq and was simply looking for justification, valid or not.


Despite such mounting evidence, Bush resolutely maintains total denial. In fact, when a British reporter asked the president recently about the Downing Street documents, Bush painted himself as a reluctant warrior. "Both of us didn't want to use our military," he said, answering for himself and British Prime Minister Blair. "Nobody wants to commit military into combat. It's the last option."


Yet there's evidence that Bush not only deliberately relied on false intelligence to justify an attack, but that he would have willingly used any excuse at all to invade Iraq. And that he was obsessed with the notion well before 9/11—indeed, even before he became president in early 2001.


In interviews I conducted last fall, a well-known journalist, biographer and Bush family friend who worked for a time with Bush on a ghostwritten memoir said that an Iraq war was always on Bush's brain.


"He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," said author and Houston Chronicle journalist Mickey Herskowitz. "It was on his mind. He said, 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.' He went on, 'If I have a chance to invade…, if I had that much capital, I'm not going to waste it. I'm going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I'm going to have a successful presidency.'"


Bush apparently accepted a view that Herskowitz, with his long experience of writing books with top Republicans, says was a common sentiment: that no president could be considered truly successful without one military "win" under his belt. Leading Republicans had long been enthralled by the effect of the minuscule Falklands War on British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's popularity, and ridiculed Democrats such as Jimmy Carter who were reluctant to use American force. Indeed, both Reagan and Bush's father successfully prosecuted limited invasions (Grenada, Panama and the Gulf War) without miring the United States in endless conflicts.


Herskowitz's revelations illuminate Bush's personal motivation for invading Iraq and, more importantly, his general inclination to use war to advance his domestic political ends. Furthermore, they establish that this thinking predated 9/11, predated his election to the presidency and predated his appointment of leading neoconservatives who had their own, separate, more complex geopolitical rationale for supporting an invasion.


Conversations With Bush The Candidate


Herskowitz—a longtime Houston newspaper columnist—has ghostwritten or co-authored autobiographies of a broad spectrum of famous people, including Reagan adviser Michael Deaver, Mickey Mantle, Dan Rather and Nixon cabinet secretary John B. Connally. Bush's 1999 comments to Herskowitz were made over the course of as many as 20 sessions together. Eventually, campaign staffers—expressing concern about things Bush had told the author that were included in the manuscript—pulled the project, and Bush campaign officials came to Herskowitz's house and took his original tapes and notes. Bush communications director Karen Hughes then assumed responsibility for the project, which was published in highly sanitized form as A Charge to Keep.


The revelations about Bush's attitude toward Iraq emerged during two taped sessions I held with Herskowitz. These conversations covered a variety of matters, including the journalist's continued closeness with the Bush family and fondness for Bush Senior—who clearly trusted Herskowitz enough to arrange for him to pen a subsequent authorized biography of Bush's grandfather, written and published in 2003.


I conducted those interviews last fall and published an article based on them during the final heated days of the 2004 campaign. Herskowitz's taped insights were verified to the satisfaction of editors at the Houston Chronicle, yet the story failed to gain broad mainstream coverage, primarily because news organization executives expressed concern about introducing such potent news so close to the election. Editors told me they worried about a huge backlash from the White House and charges of an "October Surprise."


Debating The Timeline For War


But today, as public doubts over the Iraq invasion grow, and with the Downing Street papers adding substance to those doubts, the Herskowitz interviews assume singular importance by providing profound insight into what motivated Bush—personally—in the days and weeks following 9/11. Those interviews introduce us to a George W. Bush, who, until 9/11, had no means for becoming "a great president"—because he had no easy path to war. Once handed the national tragedy of 9/11, Bush realized that the Afghanistan campaign and the covert war against terrorist organizations would not satisfy his ambitions for greatness. Thus, Bush shifted focus from Al Qaeda, perpetrator of the attacks on New York and Washington. Instead, he concentrated on ensuring his place in American history by going after a globally reviled and easily targeted state run by a ruthless dictator.


The Herskowitz interviews add an important dimension to our understanding of this presidency, especially in combination with further evidence that Bush's focus on Iraq was motivated by something other than credible intelligence. In their published accounts of the period between 9/11 and the March 2003 invasion, former White House Counterterrorism Coordinator Richard Clarke and journalist Bob Woodward both describe a president single-mindedly obsessed with Iraq. The first anecdote takes place the day after the World Trade Center collapsed, in the Situation Room of the White House. The witness is Richard Clarke, and the situation is captured in his book, Against All Enemies.



On September 12th, I left the Video Conferencing Center and there, wandering alone around the Situation Room, was the President. He looked like he wanted something to do. He grabbed a few of us and closed the door to the conference room. "Look," he told us, "I know you have a lot to do and all…but I want you, as soon as you can, to go back over everything, everything. See if Saddam did this. See if he's linked in any way…"


I was once again taken aback, incredulous, and it showed. "But, Mr. President, Al Qaeda did this."


"I know, I know, but…see if Saddam was involved. Just look. I want to know any shred…" …


"Look into Iraq, Saddam," the President said testily and left us. Lisa Gordon-Hagerty stared after him with her mouth hanging open.


Similarly, Bob Woodward, in a CBS News 60 Minutes interview about his book, Bush At War, captures a moment, on November 21, 2001, where the president expresses an acute sense of urgency that it is time to secretly plan the war with Iraq. Again, we know there was nothing in the way of credible intelligence to precipitate the president's actions.



Woodward: "President Bush, after a National Security Council meeting, takes Don Rumsfeld aside, collars him physically and takes him into a little cubbyhole room and closes the door and says, 'What have you got in terms of plans for Iraq? What is the status of the war plan? I want you to get on it. I want you to keep it secret.'"


Wallace (voiceover): Woodward says immediately after that, Rumsfeld told Gen. Tommy Franks to develop a war plan to invade Iraq and remove Saddam—and that Rumsfeld gave Franks a blank check.


Woodward: "Rumsfeld and Franks work out a deal essentially where Franks can spend any money he needs. And so he starts building runways and pipelines and doing all the necessary preparations in Kuwait specifically to make war possible."


Bush wanted a war so that he could build the political capital necessary to achieve his domestic agenda and become, in his mind, "a great president." Blair and the members of his cabinet, unaware of the Herskowitz conversations, placed Bush's decision to mount an invasion in or about July of 2002. But for Bush, the question that summer was not whether, it was only how and when. The most important question, why, was left for later.


Eventually, there would be a succession of answers to that question: weapons of mass destruction, links to Al Qaeda, the promotion of democracy, the domino theory of the Middle East. But none of them have been as convincing as the reason George W. Bush gave way back in the summer of 1999.



 


At least he's using the O word
He's at least a little closer to the actual truth this time.  How come no one important seems to care about all these changes in reasoning?  Does anyone notice???   (Except us?)
There's that word again.

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With or without the *word*

I agree with the post.  Thanks for posting it.  I'm sorry this entire thread has been invaded by those who are only here to attack.  They are showing their true colores, though.  They want to control what eveyone reads, sees, speaks, thinks and which God they believe in.  These boards are only a microcosm of the country, and they are quite representative of their party.  The more they reveal their controlling selves here and places like this, hopefully, the more people will see it for what it is and finally feel they've had ENOUGH!  For that reason, I personally hope they keep it up. 


When is the key word.

And when will it be?  Bush has already admitted that solving this quagmire will be the responsibility of a future President.  If we *stay the course,* any terrorist or insurgent would then be given a free pass to kill our American soldiers (brutally, like they did this morning) while these soldiers are trying to fight for the Iraqis.  They scream and yell against amnesty for illegals who want to come here to work, but they're in favor of it if it involves our troops being killed.


HOW TWISTED IS THAT?!!


I'm grateful the majority of these Senators showed support for our troops and respect for their lives.


I have one word. sm
Bull.
N-Word

Regarding the definition you posted:   “deeply disparaging and are used when the speaker deliberately wishes to cause great offense,”  I submit the following:


I think there is much ado about nothing here.  Does anyone say the "C-word" when blacks refer to whites as "crackers?"  I don't even bother finding that offensive.  Again, political correctness.  Such as one time I received an email saying "black" was ALWAYS capitalized but "white" was never capitalized.   Fine with me.  So if "black" is capitalized why is "white" never capitalized???  Black and white are colors, why should either be capitalized?  Which, by the way is what the next QA person informed me of, as if I didn't already know that.


I have used the infamous "N-word" but never in connection with the color of a person's skin. I used the term exactly as described by Mr. Webster.  Most usually I have used it to describe what we Caucasians would call "white trash" or people who have 50 cars up on jacks in their front yards.  I grew up in a community where there were no blacks so I certainly grew up with no predjudice and I still have no predjudice.  Black or white we are all God's children and one is no better, or worse, than the other.  Not meant to be off topic, just to say that in my opinion, Obama should not be viewed as being "black" or "white."  He should be judged based on his own merits, or lack thereof, as a human being.  While I don't support him, I am probably less critical of him than I am of McCain.


but not without the last word, right? YOU...
are the one keeping the thread alive...can't resist that one more little twist of the knife. Grownup? I don't think so. Mob mentality? You bet. That has been well demonstrated here. Only thing missing is the pitchforks, torches and castle bridge. LOL. Sheesh.
Word up

Twelve more people dispatched by McCain to Alaska to further vet Palin (AFTER she was announced).  Things not looking good.  Speculation is that her name will be withdrawn.  No communists are involved in the vetting.


 


In a word...Always. That is if you believe
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key word here is

SOME people are worth defending . . . (not all) Katrina deja vu.  The true conservative mind unmasked.  Thanks for the insight.


 


Well...but it is the last word.
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So, does anyone believe a word of

banks & the stock market?  Instead of giving $700B to them, maybe some of it should go to helping Galveston & New Orleans. 


The average Joe is gonna take a hit in this, either way.  And, that being the case, I'd feel a lot better about all of us kissing our retirement goodbye, and most likely spending our old age on the government dole, if all those greedy fat-cats went down the toilet with us.


to last word sam - where did I say

I simply answered as to where they were when the vote was being taken. 


You'd make a good politician with your constant need to always have the last word and manipulating every post you read.


In a word, yes.
It is apparent that the sanctions have not had the desired result as was their original intent. In fact, typically economic sanctions DO only end up hurting the populations of countries with dictatorial leadership...people who have little or no power affect change.

Another side to this coin would be the need for an attitude adjustment on the part of the US. I am referring to the notion that the US should be "toppling" the Castro brothers or any other regime not to our liking. Preserving our national security is a legitimate concern. Fomenting violent overthrow, bankrolling coupe d'tats, installing puppet governments that that carry out the shots we call....NOT. We are not in charge of the world and need to evolve into relationships based on peaceful coexistence, period.
How can anyone believe a word the man says....
why, how silly of me. Because they have walked the yellow brick road to the great and powerful "O." He counts on it.
I know the word has been used a lot but...that's SAD.
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In a word.......... sm
No. The middle class seems to be shrinking every day, and it does not appear to be migrating north into the rich class either. Like you, I am concerned for our future and whether I will even have a home this time next year.

Please don't take this as a Christian "rant" but last night during my prayers, I literally cried because I fear for the world that my sons will be going out into very soon. Their generation is going to have a very rocky start, much more so than we did and certainly much more than our parents did. I am also very concerned for my mother and all elderly people like her. Will she be able to continue buying her medication, even with Medicare and supplement insurance? This month, she fell in the donut hole and had to pay for part of her medications from her own pocket to the tune of some $400. Her monthly income is only just over $900.

I'm currently paying 11.75% on my home mortgage because it was taken out when interest rates were quite high and my credit is less than stellar. I have asked numerous times, in light of reduced interest rates, for it to be dropped, but the company is not willing to do that. I've been paying on it for 12 years now and I think I might own the back door.

I still hope and pray that our nation can turn around and get back on the road to prosperity for all, but I think about the Great Depression and what it took for this nation to right itself and experience prosperity once again. I don't think I am ready for another World War to happen in order for that to take place.

Everyone is in a tight place now. Even the rich are beginning to "suffer," although I have little to no pity for them as their suffering, while it does impair their lifestyles, is nothing compared to what is going on with the rest of the nation.

Sorry to be a downer this morning, but it's time we "prepare for the worst and hope for the best." It's going to be a long, hard haul back to the top.....if we ever make it.
In a word, no.
Republicans who constantly try to impede the President-Elect and his administration in their attempts to tackle the the wasteland that W is leaving in his dust will only end up digging their own graves. These lame transparent baseless smears are as transparent as Saran Wrap and only end up revealing the ignorance of those who propagate them. Keep up the good work. It is about as effective as the failed campaign that has left this party in shambles.
It's so much more than just one word..(sm)

 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqiPrRG5lNU&feature=related


I think the word you are looking for is.....sm
presumptuous.

I find it rather self-serving of Obama to expect to move into the Blair House before it is available. Events at this house are scheduled months in advance and Mr. Bush was well within his rights as PRESIDENT to turn down Obama's request.

Why does Obama think the earth spins around him?
I think maybe the word you were looking for...(sm)
was "confusing," not "deceiving."  Obama was very clear in laying this out time and time again.  Youtube is full of videos of his speeches and debates.  You might want to browse through them.  What is deceiving though are posts like the one you just did.
In a word.................. sm
Yes. On both counts. If the rapist has a true salvation in Christ and the Jew does not .

Friend, you are more than pragmatic. You are hedging a bet that you are bound to lose if you don't accept Christ. It is as simple as that.
And the MSM never said a word about...
The 2 soldiers killed by a
"recent convert" to Islam in a drive-by shooting, but trumpeted how George Tiller was such a fine man cut down in the prime of life.
OMG, you used the word Christian! SM
Run!!!!!   By the way, I totally agree.  But they have to give it little names like fetus and things to keep from admitting it is a human being that God has helped create.  Whatever floats their boat. 
I don't think threatened is the word. SM
I think disturbed covers it better.  You and Libby with your screaming posts.  What's up with that? 
the word should be *brought*
my fingers have a mind of their own...
take Mrs. Tillmans word?
She is his MOTHER. Why would she make that up? His friends in the army have also said the same. This is just another example of Bush propaganda. The Tillman family cant even get a true report on how and why he died. Take Mrs. Tillmans word for it? Ill take hers over the administration when it comes to her son. :)
I believe I used the word *present*. nm
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Do we have a different definition for the word lie?nm
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I don't doubt one word you say.

Especially considering Bush's fondness of scare tactics.  I don't know if she drinks or not (I've often thought she looked, sounded and acted drunk), which makes me wonder if she might have one too many someday and spill the beans.  Either way, she doesn't seem like a very stable person.


I'm sorry about your career.  You weren't one of those CIA whistle blowers, were you?  We've all seen, through this administration at leas, that honesty in government is a big no-no, and if anyone tries to divulge their dirty tricks, they're lives are destroyed.


A word on history.
 Whatever it is that is being discussed concering global conflicts, when using history to clarify, define, explain, prove, whatever...I always try to remember that history has always  been written and interpreted by the victor.
A word about choice
I think we have probably said all that we can say on that matter, and we won't agree, but I enjoyed speaking with you.

I just want to add a word about women who support choice. It seems that many people are quick to judge a woman that supports choice, stating that she must have had an abortion or would be willing to have one. I can only speak for myself, a few friends, and family members, but I can tell you that in our case, this it entirely not true. My sister always states that she is, Personally conservative, but politically liberal. I do have a few friends who had had abortions, but I do not believe that I could ever have one myself, and though I would stand by my daughter if that was a choice she made, I would be devastated inside. So, while this is not a choice I would make, I will still support the right to choose for other women. In an ideal world, there would be no unwanted pregnancies, but until there is, I will always stand for choice.

Peace.
A word about choice...
And I enjoy talking with you. It is good to discuss opposing viewpoints without anger and condescencion. We will have to agree to disagree. There is so much more to this than just abortion. As I have said, and as I will continue to say, when we as a nation begin to devalue life at any stage, we are on a slippery slope headed downward. And to start that devaluation with the most innocent and helpless among us...is horrifying to me. The idea of murdering captive child in utero is absolutely horrifying to me. As I said, I will follow the law of the land, and just because some wingnuts have blown up clinics and shot doctors does not mean that all people of faith believe that. I believe it is wrong to do that and I would have no part of that. However, I will continue to call it what I believe it is, and that is murder. And in the end, the women who choose abortion and the doctors who perform them will have to answer for that one day, not to you or me, but to God.

God bless!
My word, have you gone nuts?
holy cow.  Repeat yourself much?  Go crazy much?  You would be amusing in a freak show sort of way if it weren't so pathetic.  Geez.  Time for your meds?
You can't sleep without the last word eh?
Read through your posts on this forum - you gotta have the last word, and it's usually not a nice one.  Troublemaker!
Sad you must use a misspelled word
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Actually he did call her the 'c' word
I will be voting for him. I think he's okay, better than the other choice at least. However, as unfortunate as it is he actually did call his wife the "c" word.

Nobody is perfect. We all say things we don't mean to say, but when the facts are there and it's on tape/video there no denying it.

As for his kids - I have no idea. I highly doubt he calls his daughter a bad word and I'm sure they (or she - I don't even know how many kids he has), but I'm sure they adore him. All girls love their daddies, and no father I know of says awful things or calls their daughters names.

Once again I see each side that hates the other candidate does make up stuff (both sides are guilty).