The Dems could've passed this last wk. sm
Posted By: Jeanine on 2008-09-29
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They had the votes before they started. They hoped to use the Rs to help this disaster, who got shut out at the end of this thanks to Pelosi, who has no control over her caucus, anyway. The drivebys won't report this.
Second, many Dems are scared ** about not getting elected again. Other Dems waited until the very end of voting to cast their vote to play the game to win both ways. Mine, for ex., is all for this mess, but has been saying how he'll vote it down. That's b/c he's got a strong opponent and he can't afford something this risky.
Think of it this way. You have surgery to repair your left leg and the doc cuts off your right one instead. So you go back to the same doc who screwed it up to fix it. That's exactly what you have here. You wouldn't do this in your private life, so why would it be okay for those on The Hill to behave in the same way?
Their Oct. surprise failed (for now).
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Neither will be passed so they can say
whatever they want. Congress is going to be dangled a big carrot by insurance companies and nothing will change. We need a huge change in insurance practices, that would be a great start. Insurance companies are a joke now, not like they were when you actually had some coverage. We need to start doing something about the cost of healthcare - Does a doctor really need to charge me $100 for a 10-minute exam to tell me that I have a sinus infection. I told them that when I went in and just needed a Rx.
I am a bit jaded on this today as I have been dealing with some insurance/doctor crap lately. Regardless, healthcare costs and insurance practices need the overhaul.
Even if it had passed, it would have been...
voluntary. Bush was smart to at least give us the opportunity to take it away from Congress so they would freakin' STOP borrowing it!! I would much rather they coughed up the total I have put in so I could put it in a CD where Congress would keep its grubby paws off it! And incidentally it was courtesy a Dem controlled congress when the decision was first made to raid social security. But they were going to pay it back they said...yeah right. They chuckled into their armpits like Raines, Gorelick, Howard, and Johnson did when they walked away from Fannie Mae. They made out like bandits and WE are on the hook. Are you real proud of them? They did more harm to our economy that Bush ever THOUGHT about doing.
Yak, yak, yak indeed. If we weren't ALL on the hook I would say it served you Dems right.
It Passed 263 to 171 (nm)
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It already did - they passed it
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Only 11 more votes and it would have passed. nm
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But, the first bailout passed because
the dems had the majority of votes. Am I right or did I lose my mind? DON"T ANSWER THAT QUESTION, PLEASE. LOL
SCHIP Passed
11,000 million children will be covered.
The only problem is...they are raising the cigarette tax to $.61 a pack. According to Glenn Beck, we will need 21,000,000 NEW smokers to cover the program. Kinda ironic....use something that is unhealthy to give coverage to keep the kids healthy.
I don't know what they are thinking. I think the government has their heads in the sand. Every time they tie a new program to smokers, more smokers quit. How are they ever going to cover all these children if another couple thousand people quit smoking?
I absolutely think this program will not work like they think and in a couple years, if not next year, they will be raising taxes on everyone because of the shortfall in the planned coverage.
Sheesh! How did these people ever complete college????? They have no sense.
It passed the Senate........... sm
Now it's on to the House-Senate negotioations. I just hope we can stand this as a nation.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29119293/
Nothing has been passed except the budget. sm
The budget funds Volunteer America, and includes a provision to set up a commission to STUDY whether or not "mandatory volunteerism" should be established. My prediction is that it won't happen.
Budget has NOT been passed yet....sm
http://www.newsday.com/news/local/ny-stbudg0112604697mar31,0,2797230.story
He/she passed first lesson - lie.
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It's about to be passed people!!!
Democrats have apparently reached an agreement to move forward with a House vote on the huge cap-and-trade energy tax known as Waxman-Markey this week.
The monstrous bill has already grown from the 946-page version passed by the House Energy and Commerce Committee to an even-heftier 1201-page version released by House Democratic leadership last night.
And they aren't done yet. Negotiations continue between Pelosi and her ally, House Energy and Commerce Committee Chairman Henry Waxman (both D-Calif.) on one side and House Agriculture Committee Chairman Collin Peterson (D-Minn.) on the other.
The apparent breakthrough, which paves the way for a floor vote on Friday or Saturday, is a big giveaway for rural electric co-ops -- a big Peterson priority. Peterson may also extract other big-ticket concessions before a vote happens on the House floor. And why not? What's a few billion dollars between friends when you have a multi-trillion-dollar energy tax hike to divvy up?
That's what's so outrageous about this whole process. Cap-and-trade imposes massive new hidden energy taxes on American consumers. The taxes are hidden in higher prices for gasoline, electricity, and every product in the economy that's grown, shipped, or manufactured. All the revenue, the last estimate from the Congressional Budget Office has the pot at $846 billion over just the first 8 years, so it will clearly be many trillions over the 38-year duration of the program goes into a big pot that politicians can use to buy off opposition and advance other big-government objectives.
Senator Barbara Boxer, the biggest Senate proponent of cap-and-trade and the one who will dole out the billions of dollars on the Senate side if the bill makes it through the House, candidly explained how this works a couple of weeks ago:
There's so much revenue that comes in from a cap-and-trade system that you can really go to a person in a congressional district and get enough votes there by saying, "What do you need? What do you want? You can really help them."
This disastrous bill, which will send energy prices skyrocketing while having no discernible impact on global average temperature will only get worse as even more special interests are bought off at the expense of taxpayers. It's a scam, an enormous tax-and-spend bill concealed in a cloak of green political correctness. The real purpose of the plan is to dramatically enhance the power of Washington politicians by giving them control over vast swaths of the U.S. economy.
Think of this as the death blow for our already teetering rule of law and free market economy. Just as we've seen politicians make arbitrary decisions in banking and the automobile industry, this new central planning of energy will let them exercise similar control over all aspects of the U.S. economy. This type of control, while perhaps well-intentioned, we saw in the 20th century inevitably fails and often leads to despotism.
The outcome in the House is still in doubt. House Blue Dog chairwoman Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (D-S.D.) said in an interview with Energy and Environment Daily last week that Blue Dogs will not vote for the bill if it's brought up this week. She said:
"Many will insist that we have a number of days to review the language ourselves, to have back and forth with our constituencies and stakeholder groups, to understand how the system with a significant manager's amendment will work. Yes, absolutely, we need to chew on this awhile."
Obviously, Nancy Pelosi is ignoring the concerns of the Blue Dogs, and of all the Democrats from Middle America whose constituents will be slammed with vastly higher energy prices under the plan. Constituents who don't share the smug self-satisfaction that coastal elites will enjoy, that warm, green feeling that's supposed to make it all worthwhile.
If these so-called moderate Democrats fall in line behind the radical leadership of Nancy Pelosi and Henry Waxman, if they vote for a cap-and-trade tax that President Obama famously said will cause energy prices to necessarily skyrocket, they will expose themselves as radical leftists and out of touch with their districts.
Every American who cares about affordable energy and economic freedom needs to contact his or her member of Congress before this vote and demand a no vote on cap-and-trade. The House switchboard is 202-225-3121 or you can use this form on the AFP web site. If they vote for this, they deserve the full political consequences.
Exactly...well, they did manage to write and get passed...
one piece of legislation...the "reform" bill that was supposed to straighten out Fannie/Freddie...instead was the straw that broke the camel's back...forced them to offer those floating rate mortgages to low and moderate income people and the creditworthiness of said people was not to be an issue. The floating rates went UP, and a bazillion people went into foreclosure, and if the Bush admin had not stepped in and taken over, the economy could very well have collapsed. The "reform" bill, plus the crooked Dems at the top of Fannie/Freddie, just about did us in this time. Other than that piece of legislation, they have not done a blessed thing in the year they have been in charge. That is why their approval rating is in the tank.
He has already passed these tests. Get real. nm
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Just a few more votes on their part would have passed it. nm
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Kentucky just passed a 6% tax on liquor and
raised tax on cigarettes another 30 cents on a pack.
Another new bill passed today. sm
Link below. Comments about the earmarks in the article.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090225/ap_on_go_co/congress_spending
time is passed for placing blame
It is time to stop placing blame and time to start looking for the solutions. The finger pointing is not constructive. No one is going to agree on it and it is not going to change. It is time for constructive efforts NOW.
So...how's "cap & trade" like the House just passed
Here's an eye-opening article:
http://www.aim.org/don-irvine-blog/cap-and-trade-woes-in-europe/
Some states have passed compassionate euthanasia already, Oregon. nm
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The House just passed the bill??? No wonder the earth was shaking, that was the new crator...sm
 the country is falling into!
States with pending/passed 10th Amendment Sovereignty resolutions. sm
These resolutions are important to prevent the Federal government from usurping State Sovereignty. This is a partial list as other states are jumping on board the last few months. Colorado is one and New Hampshire just failed to get one passed thanks to partisan problems.
To read one of the resolutions, here is a link to one from the state of Arizona:
http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/49leg/1r/bills/hcr2024p.htm
2009: Arkansas - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
2009: Arizona - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment
1994: California - 10th Amendment
1995/96: Georgia - 10th Amendment
2009: Georgia - 10th Amendment
2009: Kansas - 10th Amendment
[NEW] 2009: Kentucky - 10th Amendment
1997/98: Louisiana - Sovereignty Constitutional Amendment
2009: Michigan - 10th Amendment
2009: Minnesota - 10th Amendment
2009: Missouri - Freedom of Choice Act (Abortion), 10th Amendment
2009: Montana - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, 2nd Amendment
2009: New Hampshire - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Federal Reserve, Taxes, Martial Law, 2nd Amendment, Draft/War, Patriot Act, Labor Camps, 1st Amendment
2008: Oklahoma - 10th Amendment, (Other Legislation: No Child Left Behind, Real ID Act)
2009: Oklahoma - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
2009: South Carolina - 9th Amendment, 10 Amendment, Martial Law and Related, 1st Amendment, 2nd Amendment
2009: Tennessee - 10th Amendment
2009: Texas - 9th Amendment, 10th Amendment, Funding Issues
1995: Utah [Number: HJR003, Session: 1995] - 10th Amendment
2009: Utah - Real ID Act
2009: Washington - 10th Amendment
Can't chew gum. Would've if I could've.
Even got hypnotized. Supposedly guaranteed to quit. Lasted 5 hours. Thank heavens I never smoked anything stronger. 
Dems took over?
This really confuses me. It's my understanding that the Dems STILL haven't taken over. They need 60 in the Senate in order to prevent a fillibuster, and as I write this, the Republicans (still in control) are threatening to fillibuster the proposed auto maker bailout/loan legislation. Since the Democrats DO NOT have the majority they need, the Republicans may very well do that.
So please explain to me how the Democrats are in control because I keep seeing this and truly don't understand how that is.
Not trying to start an argument or stir anything up. I truly don't "get it." 
I'm not sure that the dems really
like Bill being interviewed a lot. LOL! He is rather obvious that he is only saying Obama because he is following his political party and that he truly doesn't want Obama as president.
Oh well....for whatever reason Bill said what he did.....it is still nice to hear someone admiring both candidates, saying they are both ready to be president, and not cutting down one party or the other. It was a nice change for once.
I have never seen anything like this. Dems really are
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It's been the Dems all along...
Congress is DEMOCRATS you know. The president...Bush now...and O in the future...does not have absolute power! Gah, how hard is that to understand??? But now with a Dem pres and a Dem government...we are all screwed!
That's the dems M.O.
Destroy anyone that gets in their way. I have not found any of the politicans to show they care about the people that make a difference in this country. If anyone steps in, asks questions or tries to get to the truth of the matter their lives are destroyed.
11 dems were (NM)
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11 dems were (NM)
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But the Dems would have you believe..........sm
from the cheering teams in Indiana to the crowds in Ft. Meyerss (some of whom did not get in, despite being very close to the front of the line) that the whole nation is in favor of this, that we are all ready to sink another another trillion in debt.
I wonder how many of the dems have
read it? Oh, it doesn't matter, they are going to vote for it anyway, the king has spoken!
Dems
If it this thing doesn't work (which it won't) the dems better start grabbing theirs...
Where are all the sensible Dems?
They fight and carry on just as much as the pubs. They are like children, too. Don't forget, they put a lot of pork in these bills and then cry when the pubs vote against it.
No matter what you say, neither party is working for the people. It's time to vote them all out.
And you don't think the dems would do the same?
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That's what I like about some Dems...
soooo classy. And you have the nerve to defame rednecks...LOL. ;)
No - because the Dems know very well what
The intelligence committees of Congress (both House and Senate) have full access to all CIA documents. Members of both of those committees know full well that Pelosi stepped in a cow patty when she called the CIA liars, so this outcome was completely predictable.
What makes this whole thing all the more deplorable is that these are the very same people who were self-righteously calling for similar probes regarding the previous administration just a few weeks ago.
Moral: Be careful what you wish for!
We gotta throw these folks out of office starting in 2010 and continuing until EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM IS GONE.
I know this is somewhat irrelavant since the Dems are going to win
in November. I am an Obama supporter but also a political junkie, so for me it's interesting to try to figure out who McCain is going to pick for VP, even if it doesn't matter in the end.
McCain was on SLN cracking jokes about how old he was. I'll give him points for the self-deprecating humor.
Yep, the dems in congress won't do anything
until they have a dem as president. They know if they do something positive, such as helping us with our oil/energy problem, Bush will get the credit and they won't stand for that.
That is the facts people and it is so unbelievably ridiculous that these people who we vote in and pay 6-figure salaries to won't do their job. It's a huge joke and it scares the crap out of me.
Perfect example of why Dems will win and be in the
Republicans thrive on scare tactics - or at least they THINK they're scare tactics.
A lot of dems voted for the war too....
including Kerry and Hillary and untold others...including your VP candidate, Biden. Can't you tell the truth? What about the truth is so scary to you? You can go on line and see the roll call vote. Many, Many D's there. No war can ever be waged without a 2/3 vote of Congress. War is not a "conservative" thing. What a ridiculous lie. Do you ever go research anything or are you afraid lightning will strike you if you stray from Dem talking points??
I cannot and will not lump all Dems together...
however, several of the group who post here post like this. I don't understand it, because it doesn't follow what I thought democrats were all about. I am not a Republican by the way...am an Independent. I don't owe any party my vote...but I have Democrats in my family and they do not speak like this...
But, I could not say most Dems treat people this way. Just some of these do. :)
Since when did Dems ever let facts
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No, you dems just ain't funny.
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Yes....this is going to be the Dems' Enron. nm
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Believe it or not, dems want to cut the pork too! nm
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in-laws are all dems - what to do? nm
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But the media, the dems, and
all these Obama supporters just sweep that under a rug. They continue to point fingers and blame others and yet they will take no responsibility at all for what they did. They will not give McCain credit for his warning. They will not admit that they ignored that warning. I'm tired of the media having their nose up Obama's ars. They call McCain a coward for wanting to postpone the debate when it was McCain who was pushing for the debate before until this and now he wants to be in Washington to help find a solution. He wants to put the country first instead of his own personal campaign. To me...this says a lot about McCain and yet the dems and the media can do nothing but downgrade. How in the world are we to have a fair election when the media is so obviously one-sided?
At this point, I really don't know that any candidate can get us out of this mess. I guess I've just lost hope all around. As for all those so-called plans Barry Obama promised.....he can't do a one of them....not that they would have worked in the first place but now it is impossible for him to even try. So now what, Barry? What else are you going to promise you will do that you can't deliver on?
SSDD for the Dems
Oh, I know all about her. First it was sad to me that voters don't do their homewordk and just believe what literally any politician tells them just because they're R or D. Savage really educates his audience on the San Franfricko "values" and how horribly corrupt they are out there. Take the Bologna case, where the illegal aliens/gang members who killed this poor woman's husband and 2 sons all in one sweep. There's just one example of the sanctuary city thing for ya.
The best way to educate people is to play their own words back for all to hear. That way I make my point and am not accused of being a right-wing hack.
By the same token, I've been literally wailing over Olympia Snow (snot job), Susan Collins, etc...the queen RINOS. They don't belong in the GOP and they need a royal flush. Hagel finally retired, fortunately.
The drivebys are so complicit in this crap, too. If we put out such a horrible product (like a report with only a small portion of the situation, or twisted it completely around), we'd be fired. These people work for us and only answer to their NE lib journalism pals. There are so many facets to this zirconia it's criminal.
Sometimes I think the republicans are dems in slo-mo....sm
and almost as bad. They can't talk, can't stand up for themselves. Let themselves be run over.
I'm disgusted with everybody on capitol hill.
None of them understand the economy anyway. None of them.
The dems try to make her look
stupid, when in fact she is very savvy — as demonstrated by her negotiations with the oil companies, pushing through a gas pipeline, etc. She is a lady of many accomplishments, unlike the Dem’s PRESIDENTIAL candidate, the big O ( as in ZERO).
Governor Sarah Palin made history on Dec. 4, 2006, when she took office. As the 11th governor of Alaska, she is the first woman to hold the office.
Since taking office, her top priorities have been resource development, education and workforce development, public health and safety, and transportation and infrastructure development.
Under her leadership, Alaska invested $5 billion in state savings, overhauled education funding, and implemented the Senior Benefits Program that provides support for low-income older Alaskans. She created Alaska’s Petroleum Systems Integrity Office to provide oversight and maintenance of oil and gas equipment, facilities and infrastructure, and the Climate Change Subcabinet to prepare a climate change strategy for Alaska.
During her first legislative session, Governor Palin’s administration passed two major pieces of legislation - an overhaul of the state’s ethics laws and a competitive process to construct a gas pipeline.
Governor Palin is chair of the Interstate Oil and Gas Compact Commission, a multi-state government agency that promotes the conservation and efficient recovery of domestic oil and natural gas resources while protecting health, safety and the environment. She was recently named chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources Committee, which is charged with pursuing legislation to ensure state needs are considered as federal policy is formulated in the areas of agriculture, energy, environmental protection and natural resource management. Prior to being named to this position, she served as co-chair of this committee.
Prior to her election as governor, Palin served two terms on the Wasilla City Council and two terms as the mayor/manager of Wasilla. During her tenure, she reduced property tax levels while increasing services and made Wasilla a business friendly environment, drawing in new industry.
She has served as chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission, which regulates Alaska’s most valuable non-renewable resources: oil and gas. She was elected by her peers to serve as president of the Alaska Conference of Mayors. In this role, she worked with local, state and federal officials to promote solutions to the needs of Alaska’s communities.
The bottom line is that she is running for VP. Obama is running for president and his own running mate said he didn't have enough experience.
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