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What do you think they're doing to American prisoners?

Posted By: mtmtmt on 2009-05-23
In Reply to: So you're okay with cruel and inhumane...(sm) - Just the big bad

The terrorists/Taliban torture and kill their own people. What do you think they do to the American prisoners they capture? You're deluded if you think they abide by the Geneva Convention. Waterboarding is no big deal compared to cutting off a head, don't you think?


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Our prisoners............ sm
detained for terrorist attacks and plans of attacks against the US, and who know nothing more than a retaliatory kind of lifestyle.....and the magnanomous senator from PA said his state would house them. He really is thinking of the prisoners' well-being. Do you think these prisoners would really be safe in a federal prison housed with our own hardened criminals who really have nothing left to lose? And what of the fact that PA is so convenient to DC that it wouldn't be difficult at all for them to stage an attack on DC proper. They didn't make it last time and landed in a field in PA. If this comes to pass, I WILL blame Obama and I WILL blame the PA senator. YES I CAN!
Yep, we will soon be prisoners of our own govt.
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We do not have enough room for our own prisoners.
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These people are our prisoners too.

US imprisoned them, so they are prisoners of the US...nm
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LOL...Kind of like saying *my fellow prisoners*..

"innocent prisoners",, yeah, ok.
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Obama is reviewing the status of the prisoners... sm
Isn't that okay with you?
I was brought up Buy American made products, keep American jobs.
Always bought American made cars and bought products from companies where my family was employed. Now look at America? We are definitely connected all around the world.

My feeling? Obama states he wants to start from the poor upward. Not the other way around like it has been for quite awhile. That to me does not necessarily mean just in America, but around the world by taking the poorest countries and working upward so America's pay wages and everything else will be so low and comparable to the poorest countries. After all, we are now connected together.

Cannot wait to see what will happen with the Swine flu this fall with the second wave and what it will do to the economy of all the countries combined at once.
Any child born to American parents is an American -
I am sorry, but I respectfully disagree with you - any child born to American parents is an American even if they are born overseas. The birth has to be registered with the United States, but they are still an American even if they are born in the foreign hospital.

I have 2 cousins who were born in Japan and they have no problems at all being "American".
You're entitled to your opinion. I guess it depends on what side of the spectrum you're on.nm
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We're not defending Bush we're pointing out the obvious
All you see in your view is Bush, Bush, Bush. Nobody else exists. You have yet to answer any of the questions I posed yesterday. We're not the one obsessing about Bush. I'm sure you'll counter that with I don't owe you any answers! It's really telling that for five or six days this board was mute about the Israel/Lebanon situation. You were too busy posting trash news about Bush like nothing was even happening, but I know that the left has wait for its talking points. You all cannot formulate opinions on your own. You have boilerplates ready to go though. *This is Bush's fault because _____________ but you have to wait on Howard Dean, Bill Clinton, etc. etc. to fill in the blanks for you. It's not just a phenomenon here but with all the left. You can count on at least two days of silence when something unforseen breaks out in the world, because they have to retreat to their bunkers to get their talking points straight, but it will always start with *This is Bush's fault because....
Hey, if they're smoking cigs, they're paying for SCHIP.
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They're too lazy to show patriotism......they're waiting
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So you're not racist but you're most definitely SEXIST and AGEIST!!!
"Someone more in our age group..."

"She should be taking care of her family."

Your true colors are showing, and they're truly ugly.
Just because they're LOSING doesn't mean they're VICTIMS.
What is it with people these days? You think that just because Hamas is getting its fanny handed to it that that magically makes them victims, and we should all weep and throw cash at them?

From the dawn of time, lesser civilizations have fallen to stronger ones.

It's why the human species survived and the neanderthals didn't.

It's why Rome conquered the Celts.

It's why the Barbarians conquered the Western Roman Empire.

It's why the British conquered the American Indians.

It's why the Spanish conquered the Aztecs.

It's why the Muslims conquered Israel the first time. But, since their societal progres seems to have permanently parked in the Stone Age, now Israel is conquering them right back.

Deal with it.
You're right. They're simply not worthy of a reply.

They're not tax breaks....they're tax credits
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I'm snotty, you're rude...we're even....
My dearrrr....not everyone in this country pays taxes. So you are wrong there. Obama said "spread the wealth." From his own mouth. The interview in Canada...economic parity and redistribution. Words from HIS mouth. If you believed those words from his mouth as much as you believed other words from his mouth, you would know he is a socialist. Selective memory is a wonderful thing ain't it??
You're right. They're all wack-jobs... nothing
so they try to make themselves feel important by standing around on street corners with their posters and their dollies.

Most of them are just buffoons, good for nothing other than being laughed at by the rest of us. But the ones that totally lose all reason, and go so far as to shoot people (in a church of all places...) is pretty off the deep end.
So, you're not American?
I see the trap you're setting here...and this conversation is over.
Did you know that the American

Indian was ***bestowed*** citizenship in 1924. Until that time I guess he would be described as an illegal. Since so many Indians had died in WWI the government was publicly embarrassed and so made the indigenous people citizens of their own land.


I don't know why I put the moccasin article on the other board. I guess, being an optimist, I thought this was 1 thing we could agree on, but alas, tis not true. I might add that $21 is incredibly cheap. Handmade moccasins made the traditional way, sewn by hand with sinew and leather strips usually cost around $50 to 75$ for the most plain design. I hope some of you will do this. It would mean more than you know.


 


I'm with you there.....BUY AMERICAN!!
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Sure, that's the American way.
Having lost some $30,000 in the stock market, I'm not exactly thrilled with the change that brought that about. Wouldn't mind seeing some "change" there.
If you are an American
Then you should support the American president.  If you do not support the American President for any reason at all, any reason at all, you are not patriotic, you do not stand for this country, you should not benefit from it, and you should leave.  One America under God.
American....
I don't like Obama and that doesn't MAKE me anything one way or another, except this is not the man for the job IMO. I didn't trust him before and I certainly have absolutely no faith in him now after he has sunk this country to the tune of trillions, which my children and their children will be paying for dearly! Thanks for nothing, Obama!

I have strong feelings against both parties because they have forgotten what they were put there to do; it has turned into a free-for-all up there. They look out for their OWN interests....definitely not mine.

You are right. WE are the government and we are allowing this. Those sitting on their cushy little bums every day drawing huge paychecks think they are thing to rule us, the American people, like we need to be showed how to live, how to raise our children, how to think for Heaven sakes! I'm sick to death of it. Even seeing the posts on this board prove to me how complacent people have become and will turn a blind eye to anything.

My gut feelings told me this guy was not right to lead this country and I believe it more and more every day.

I still say Ron Paul was the only one with the right path and the only one who really showed true character and leadership for this country....not what was in it for him!!!
SHE is Un-American. We need to get rid of her.
Come on people in California, you voted for her. Please get her out ASAP.

She is coddling ILLEGAL immigrants while Americans are living in tents and lining up at soup kitchens.

She should be ostracized!!
What do you mean by REALLY AMERICAN?
Do you not understand that what you are saying here is blatant discimination?

Are YOU a REAL American?
If so, then you MUST BE AN INDIAN, one of those with the feathers on your heaad.
What are you talking about?

If you had to take the American citizenshiptest, you would flunk it!
Of course we all want the American

dream but what you fail to realize is that everything this administration is trying to do will crush the American dream.  It is knocking the middle class down.  Obama was already rich to begin with.  It is the people who are in the middle bracket who are trying to reach that American dream and they can't now.  The more money they make, the more government will take away and all these taxes that the government is talking about now.....it will hurt even you whether or not you continue to keep drinking the kool-aid or not.  Wake up!!!!!


American Woman
American Woman, Dont leave, Im the one *they*, whomever (I frankly dont care..smile) tried to ban..Im the one they reported like back in grade school..oooohhhh..gonna tell the teacher..Im still here and NO ONE is gonna get rid of me or my opinions or beliefs unless they ban me and then I will move onto another political board..Dont leave, American Woman..I enjoy your posts and think you are an intelligent person who shows she cares through her posts..We need that here..heck if you leave, I probably will end up leaving, so will Lurker, Observer and all the rest and then what will become of this board..Please stay..Ya know what I do when it gets too much, I spend a half hour or so on Bill Mahers board (they are so friendly)..What you post about is the truth in America, dont deny others of reading the truth that you post..Please stay.
Hey, American Woman!!
Glad to read ya!  Come back here, we all must maintain the liberal site, no matter what, ya know? I have  been posting at Bill Maher's site, GCT is my *handle*.  I usually go into the Current Events arena.  I posted a hi to you on Bill Maher's site about one week ago.  I didnt see your post, was focused on posts concerning crazy lady Barbara Bush mostly, LOL.  Tell ya what, put a clothing pin on ya nose and come back here.  I alternate between here and Bill Maher's site. 
To American Woman
Dont ya know when I get off this board, I feel like I need a shower after dealing with the attack conservatives?  It bugs the heck out of me at times..however, I enjoy reading what other democratic liberals are posting and knowing we are the future for America, the liberal people..There is no way the me-me, lock me behind a gated community, who cares about you, I got mine society will exist..It is not workable in an expanding world.  So, as much as sometimes the conservatives, for some reason or another cannot stay on their own board and bug the heck out of me, I check back here every once in a while..I wish you would too.  We need you here as a compassionate sane poster..I was on Bill Maher last night in Current Events, talking about jury duty, which I have to do in October..Blah!!
you mean Brunson/American
you might get challenged to a duel.
Hi American Woman!

Hi American Woman!  Come on back here regularly.  We have some really good liberal posters now.  Yes, Im in CA.  The fires are all around me but havent come to the desert yet (where I am).  They have been moving towards the ocean instead (opposite direction).  With a change of the wind, though, the fires could change direction, then they would come over the Sierra Nevada Mountains to get to the desert.  About two years ago a fire came up over the mountains and you could see it from my house and the air was thick with smoke and soot.  Was quite scary..but the firefighters were able to get it out.  Yup, CA, the land of mudslides, wildfires, earthquakes, torrential rains (when it does rain..smile).  So good to hear from ya..Come on back here.  The board isnt the same without ya. :o).


P.S. American Woman
I should have included this in my last nights post..thank you for thinking of me and praying for me and my family.  You are so kind.  :O)
gt: Where's American Woman??
I haven't read too far yet tonight but is she back? And don't know what you're referring to in terms of your family but please let us all know if there is anything we can do to help?
To Kill an American...sm
Disclaimer: Not sure if this is a true story or not, but it is a great write.

To Kill an American

You probably missed it in the rush of news last week, but there was actually a report that someone in Pakistan had published in a newspaper an offer of a reward to anyone who killed an American, any American.


So an Australian dentist wrote an editorial the following day to let everyone know what an American is . So they would know when they found one. (Good one, mate!!!!)


An American is English, or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be Canadian, Mexican, Puertorican, South American, African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani or Afghan.


An American may also be a Comanche, Cherokee, Osage, Blackfoot, Navaho, Apache, Seminole or one of the many other tribes known as native Americans.


An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim.
In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan . The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them chooses.


An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God.


An American lives in the most prosperous land in the history of the world.
The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence , which recognizes the God given right of each person to the pursuit of happiness.


An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need, never asking a thing in return.


When Afghanistan was over-run by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country!


As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan . Americans welcome the best of everything...the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best services. But they also welcome the least.


The national symbol of America, The Statue of Liberty , welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America .


Some of them were working in the Twin Towers the morning of September 11, 2001 earning a better life for their families. It's been told that the World Trade Center victims were from at least 30 different countries, cultures, and first languages, including those that aided and abetted the terrorists.


So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo, and Stalin, and Mao Tse-Tung, and other blood-thirsty tyrants in the world. But, in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American.
I don't think every American wants democracy. sm
In fact, I know they don't.  There are more than a few Americans who think we deserved 9/11.  Nancy Pelosi is one of them.  Now look where she is. 
Somehow, American Girl

something tells me we are preaching to the choir here.  See posts below. 


American is clearly a threat to some
America is clearly a threat to many countries, especially seeing what we have been doing for the past four plus years and how we have fueled the hatred and terrorism around the world by chosing to invade and kill instead of holding diplomatic sessions..the thinking mans way of handling a disagreement/problem..no not cowboy Bush, he thinks nothing of sending over our loved ones to fight his illegal, immoral so wrong war, just as long as his daughters and the children of the lawmakers dont have to go.
Proud to be an American

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BJjKCBbI2s  Cat


This American sure doesn't. nm
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First and foremost - I am an American
Stupd is as stupid does. His stepfather was muslim. His biological father had nothing to do with his upbringing and his grandparents (white folks from Kansas) raised him. He went to a primarily Muslim school and also Catholic schools. He is a Christian. But, Christians can be violent terrorists just as much as Muslims. Please research before you make judgments - it just makes you look ignorant.
a responsible American
how about you being a responsible American too and stop blaming EVERYTHING on republicans. Do you think the Dems had no role in the current situation in this country? Take your head out of the sand. There is enough blame to go around for both the republicans AND the democrats. And a responsible American would embrace the freedom of respect the other opinions of other people. We all have a right to express our opinions and be respected for them, not criticized for not thinking just like you.
So much for the American dream.

The more you work, the more they take away.  It will be the middle class people to suffer from this.  The rich will survive.  The low-income and no income people will be the ones to benefit from this.  This just encourages people to not work hard.  The more money you make by working hard.....you will be penalized and that hard earned money of yours will be given to someone who doesn't work.  This will be a huge snow ball that will eventually crush us entirely as more and more people work less and then the middle class and the rich will have even more people to support.  Like I've said before.....it sickens me.


What ever happened to accountability and self-reliance?  What ever happened to hard working Americans who were too proud to receive a hand out.  Now it seems that is all I hear....people screaming about not getting handouts and playing the victim.  Give me give me give me.  Instead of encouraging them to get a good education and work hard.....we are enabling them to remain "victims" while we foot the bill. 


Why should hard working Americans suffer?  Shouldn't they be rewarded for their hard work instead of penalized?  I guess that doesn't matter to Obamanation as he is rich and this won't hurt him....so why should he care.  As long as he is taking care of his low-income homies...I guess it is all good, huh?


American made
I gladly pay more if necessary to buy American made but it is getting so hard to find anything made in America.  Remember when Wal-Mart's slogan was "Buy American" and now it's "Bring It Home to America?"  I don't shop there since Sam died and the whole goshdanged conglomerate changed.  They sell JUNK made in China and everywhere but America.  We need to start thinking American jobs and to do that we have to quit buying just "cheap" and as someone else said, you usually get what you pay for.  I wouldn't think of buying fruits and vegetables from Wal-Mart anyway, they're imported and there is something just disgusting about stuff that is grown with human fertilizer!
I hate to tell ya American MT, s/m

You are just a young chick!  I have 25 years on ya.  So, yep, you're young all right.  Just wait a quarter century.  I'm not in bed now because we've had a change in the weather and I don't have a bone or joint in my body that doesn't ache!  All-in-all though I'm very thankful, I'm in pretty good condition for the shape I'm in. LOL


As for the freeloaders, I could not possibly agree with you more.  I just see the politics thing a little differently, that's all.  When I think about the big bank bail-out that has threatened the secure retirement that my husband and I worked so hard for for so many years, I am past grouchy, I am furious.  Bush pushed for it, Obama and McCain voted for it so how the heck can I expect things to get better no matter which one of these creepy crooks are elected?


I tell you what though, I feel more sorry for you and the young 'uns in your age group (my kids are 46, 44, 42 and 38), my grandchildren (22, 21, 18, 16, 15 and 8) and great-grandchild (age 3) more than for myself and my husband.  As I see it things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.  The only one of my children who has any retirement benefits is my youngest, a plumber, who aspires to own his own business and is trying so hard to save enough money to start his own business.  He's a superintendent for a big plumbing company in Houston, lives modestly and still has a hard time trying to save money.  His wife is an MT and she works hard, fighting for work and ever decreasing pay.  Then there's the matter of Social Security, which I doubt will be there when you reach that age, mostly because it is being siphoned off to support freeloaders.


Well, I'll go on and get down off my soapbox and go to bed.....thanks to Advil-LiquaGels!!


Best to ya.


Did she not say she was not proud to be American...
until now with her husband running for president. I think that says a lot. And since you don't know one thing about me either, do not go making assumptions my race, nationality, religion, my political affiliation, my attitudes, intelligence or anything else
How any American can vote for a ...
socialist just this side of Marxist is beyond ME. :-)
The American 'babies' who die in the war....sm
are grown, adult American men and women who made the conscious choice to join the Armed Services knowing full well the implication that they would very likely see active combat. They go to war because they love America and want to protect our liberties and freedoms.

The REAL American babies who will suffer if Obama is elected are the ones who are literally dragged from their uncaring, unloving mother's womb, stabbed in the back of the head and have their brains chopped to mush and sucked out with a tube. Google "partial birth abortion" and look at the pictures of the procedure and then call me a liar.
Is O really African-American?

http://www.jackandjillpolitics.com/2008/09/rush-limbaugh-obama-really-isnt-african-american/


http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1584736,00.html