blaming someone you know nothing about for something that hasn't happened
Posted By: interesting on 2008-10-11
In Reply to: Do you have any idea what people like you are doing? - gourdpainter
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Thank you for not blaming
I think we can all agree that there is a lot wrong and we hope it can be fixed. Too many people seemed to be focused on blaming someone instead of coming up with solutions. I really get tired of people blaming Bush for stuff that is not his fault. I agree he has not been one of the best presidents, but neither was Carter or Clinton (and I voted for both of them), but sometimes we have to just put our ego aside and try and find some solutions. I'm sure the people who are out of work are not looking to blame someone, they just want to know how it's going to be fixed. I believe both sides have had a part in the way our economy is. It is niether solely one or the others.
What are you blaming him for?
Nothing bad has happened that is not a repercussion of previous administrations.
He's only been in office for 60-plus days for goodness sakes. Give the man a chance.
I don't think SPENDING money in the US is blowing money. I think blowing money is money spent on a bad-intentioned war that killed and maimed thousands.
So what would you do... let the water stagnate... just not do anything? Please link me to the Republicans' solution/plan for getting us out of what they got us into. thank you.
Just because I'm tired of the blaming and
bashing on both sides? Okay. You win. It's all the Dem's fault and everyone should run them out of the country.
Help me understand why nobody is blaming the Big 3?
I feel like everybody is blaming the wrong people for the problems the car industry is facing... I think it is the car industry themselves who should take responsibility for getting themselves out of the mess they are in or else shut their doors. Every other business in America does that. If they cannot handle the financial part of their business, then they go out of business...
I understand that it is going to put a lot of people in a bad situation and I feel very sorry for them, I really do. However, I don't think it is my responsibility to have to pay more to help them. Is that not the same thing that everyone has been fussing about, "redistributing the wealth"? I feel sure right now if the company I worked for were in financial trouble, they would close their doors because the government is not going to step in and help them, and I feel sure I would be sitting here with no job and no income and nobody is going to step up to do a bailout package for the transcription companies.
How about the construction workers? Is the government working on a bailout for them? What about the electricians, the plumbers? It all has to end at some point. I personally feel like we are all in the same boat right now and that we are all going under, so why do we have to throw more money on top of bad money to delay the inevitable?
Not blaming Obama. Who was
The lucrative virus contract was awarded the day before Obama became president. Which party has admitted they have a lot to gain if America gets **hit** again? Who had a supposed homeland security **bioterror** plan within the last 8 years? The timing of this is very interesting with Cheney saying in the last couple weeks that Obama can't keep us safe and voila! There's a brand new flu that combines all the ones we were told for the last few years could trigger a **pandemic**, especially the bird flu. Oh and now some **experts** are saying this very well could have started in America and not Mexico. Since 2001, the only grip republicans had on Americans was fear and they used it often. Too convenient.
Just saying and blaming 'propaganda' is not enough, .........sm
give us YOUR version of the truth.
Hello!
Are you still there?
next thing you know she will be blaming sm
the gays because she burned her toast this morning!
Are they blaming conservatives
and pro-life people for one person who lied? It seems to me like these pro-life people were trying to be supportive and be there for someone that they really thought needed them. How where they supposed to know that they were being lied to? Instead of blaming conservatives as a whole on this one, why aren't they placing the blame on the ignorant woman who was addicted to blogging and made all of this up? I just don't get the logic some of you people have. One person lied and so all these pro-lifers came to her aid thinking she needed it and somehow it isn't the liars fault.....it is the pro-lifers. Yeah...makes perfect sense.....sheesh
There ARE reasons beyond blaming Bush...
for the haves and the have nots. How many of those people wandering the streets worked hard in school, applied for FREE tuition at the local college (which they most certainly qualify for based on income), waited until they were married to have kids, and on and on? WIth 70% of African-American babies born to single women these days, it's no wonder that poverty runs rampant among the African-American communities. It's sad, it's tragic, and I'd go there right now to give ANY of those people all the food and water I have in my house right now, but you cannot totally blame others for their financial position... Most of it comes from poor personal choices. This is a country of opportunity and people only need to be smart and avail themselves of it.
It is no more of a stretch than blaming McCain for it...
and that is what many are trying to do. Shame on THEM. Why don't you correct them as well?
Hypocrisy is aplogizing and blaming someone else
Voters are tired...real tired...of this party's double speak.
Blaming wrong people......
Blame the freakin' banks and CEOs - Wall St., speculators driving up housing costs (just like they are driving up gas costs, again). Barney Frank didn't bag all these mortgages into derivatives and then bet on the derivatives......Sheesh. When I refinanced my other home (yes, we have 2), I was told my loan would probably be sold. It never was. Probably because the payments were always made on time. (this was 5-6 years ago). My husband was laid off the first of the year (I don't work due to medical problems). My kids are paying the mortgage on the 2nd house. (I had a house when I married, then we bought a house together right before we were married). We don't have a pot to pss in, but, we have 2 houses to worry about. Can't sell 'em and our mortgage on the house WE live in is cheaper than rent.
Ohmigod - now you are blaming the flu on Obama?
I think now I have heard it all!
I understand how you can blame some things on President Obama, but to say that he could not keep the country safe because there is a flu outbreak? That just beats it all in my book - let's take it one step further, why don't we?
This just goes to show that he is not capable of leading the world in that New World Order, so we better hurry up and find somebody else to do that!
And O's making it worse by FAR....blaming...sm
it on the last administration doesn't get it anymore, Amanda - it's now OBAMA'S watch and all he can do is spend, spend, spend. I guess it's gonna have to take you being broke while the big wheels sit back and laugh for you to get it? Sad, very very sad!
Exactly, hasn't shown us one way to pay for any
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At least she hasn't EVER put down her country
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SO far he hasn't proven anything
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Yes, why hasn't anything been mentioned about that?
She had the meeting yesterday with them. I didn't hear a thing about it.
What makes you think he hasn't?
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Holding people accountable and blaming
people are 2 different things. Blaming either party will get us nowhere. The situation is upon us and the blame game is only holding up the resolution.
Holding people accountable may help to prevent a similar situation in the future. Holding someone accountable means owning up to their part in the problem and making retribution to fix the problem. If someone went along with this and gained financially from it, then that person should be accountable - own up and pay up. If someone went along with this and gained politically, then that person should be accountable - own up and give up (your position).
I took serious offense to your comment because you didn't say it was directed to the politicians on the hill. You said as a general statement to all dems.
Time to stop blaming Clinton
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Do you know how silly the libs sound by blaming everything
that happened in the last eight years on Bush?
I predict, that Obama will not take responsibility for anything that happens in next two years at least, maybe four....it will all be Bush's fault in some way.
And those won't be my words. They will be Obama's words.
Wait and see.
How much confidence can you have in president who takes no personal responsibility, or a Congress that takes no personal responsibility in their own legislation, blaming Bush for their own bailout legislation that they wrote?
Dems always change the rules.
It's happening again, slowly and surely.
Michelle Bachmann blaming Obama
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He hasn't been officially charged
so it's all just hearsay at this point. This is all a witch hunt pure and simple, however, everytime dems open up Pandora's box they are the ones who really get burned by it.
I'm not saying people who do something illegal and are found guilty shouldn't be punished Dem. or Rep. alike, but when people start opening up other people's closets they better be darn sure their's are squeaky clean.... 
How do you know the recruiter hasn't been to Iraq?
How do you know where he has been? As punishment, he should be sent to war. In other words, off with his head! My, the mask is off now, isn't it. You know the mask. The one where you pretend to hate the war but support the troops.
Democrat hasn't won the presidency yet.
Mostly because I can't wait to see what you all have to say when the country is still in shambles with a Democrat behind the wheel. I can't believe you all actually think a Dem in office will help. Entire Congress is Dem right now. What has it done lately?
Hasn't McCain only been in Congress also?
What executive experience does he have? From your answer, Palin seems more qualified than McCain even.
Good question...why hasn't he? However,
adopted by a Kenyan man which makes him a Kenyan by law and because this man was Muslim, he was also Muslim, even though we already knew that because his mother brought him up Muslim. ANyway, he cannot be a citizen of this country after being adopted by this man from Kenya. He then has to go through immigration dept and their entire process to apply for US citizenship, which he has no papers to prove that either.
It has been nasty, hasn't it? On both sides...
McCain certainly would not have been my first choice either, but I voted for the candidate that I thought was the better of the two--I actually prefer a more conservative candidate than McCain. I do think that it is a shame that everyone has become so mean. I have tried not to be that way to anyone, although I guess some people see me as "rabid." What can you do? I at least know that I am not a name-caller or a racist, regardless of what others might think. Perhaps it will cool down. At any rate, have a good night!
I agree. It is a disgrace that he hasn't done it before now! nm
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Yeah, or he just hasn't got a clue!
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How come it hasn't worked for the last 8 years?
Messiah of MT Stars - tells us oh revered and feared of the freak forum!
The big "O" aleady the worst and he hasn't been....
there a year yet. The next would be Jimmy Carter. Read up on the economy under HIM. Obama doesn't give two hoots about what "we" want. He is pushing through his personal agenda at lightning speed and the worst of it is he really believes this will work...kinda like Caesar fiddling while Rome burned around him. Well, they say ignorance is bliss and he must be one deliriously happy camper right about now.
Oh, please. She hasn't been drawn and quartered.
Including smart Republicans who absolutely do NOT want to see her as president.
Of course in your book it's old news; he still hasn't
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It's "phase"...... time to stop blaming Bush
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Joe Biden hasn't had invasive melanoma...
McCain has. And you think McCain's mind is still sharp? If it is, it hasn't been coming across that way lately, especially last week. He better come across as sharp this week and at the debates. Speaking of McCain's health, I'm going to post something up at the top about that.
Respectable? Hah! He hasn't even earned trust yet!
Give it a few months for the media orgy/love fest to end then the scandals will begin (quite a few already).The dems are already at each other throats....this is gonna be good!
Hasn't healthcare been "unionized" for decades (sm)
now? It's been used as a bargaining chip by unions when negotiating a new contract. Just imagine how discontinuing healthcare from employers would help everyone! Vendors could sell their products for less. The insurance obligation would be placed somewhere else, maybe someplace it belongs, and the employees wouldn't have to pay a "co-pay" to their insurers.
Like Obama, I believe that if you like the healthcare you have, then you can keep it.
I've been very ill for 3-1/2 years now, and not only do I NOT qualify for regular health insurance, I also don't qualify for Mediaid. When my social security disability claim comes through, I believe I'm not eligible for Medicare for something like 2-1/2 years after being approved. So that's 2-1/2 YEARS to deny someone who was approved based on ILLNESS! Isn't that kind of crazy?
If the option of an insurance plan that I can afford is "on the table," then I'd snatch it up as quickly as I could, while being perfectly agreeable with you keeping your own policies.
Some of us are falling through the cracks.
You've got to be kidding me? Defending their actions and blaming on Bush?
Sure, they have a right to be "activists" and to march and to protest. They do not have a right to smash in windows and vandalize property. What's worse is that many of these are not ativists. They have NO IDEA what they are protesting against. Ask them who the vice president of our country is, they can't tell you. They are young foolish kids who think it's fun to be out there causing trouble and posing as "activists" with a cause. It's rather inane to equate these things with true activists.
Because so far I'm still allowed to express my honest opinion. He hasn't taken that away from us
yet.
Those are his words, and what is scary is that I think he believes it. It's bad enough we've got enemies who believe they're in a religious war. With each passing day, I'm starting to think HE believes he's in one, too. If that's the case, we're in more trouble than anyone could have thought.
My post was about HIM, not about you. But it isn't the first time a Bush groupie has PERSONALLY attacked a poster for expressing their opinion about BUSH. Now, how do you think that makes YOU look? Maybe it's YOU who should grow up or at least WAKE up and see what he's doing, not just to us but to the entire WORLD.
As long as we all still have freedom of expression, I'll continue to express my views, whether you like them or not.
And I hope you keep posting. Nobody can prove my point for me like a Bush groupie, and I do appreciate the help!!
my 401K from a previous employer hasn't lost much
but it's in low risk investments, a lot of bonds, and so when things get better, it probably won't rise as quickly as other 401k's. I'm a chicken.
thanks, Marmann, I miss JTBB, hasn't post since yesterday evening, you o.k?..nm
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What happened?
Oh geez..what happened? Where are all the attack posts?? They are gone!! Or maybe Im just hallucinating this morning, LOL. OMG!! Now we can have soulful, fruitful, progressive and caring debates and ideas and maybe even possibly make a difference, without being attacked on everything we post. Halleluiah!!
What I think happened
I believe the other short, nasty post was deleted and in doing so it automatically deleted the other posts below it, which unfortunately included yours.
Yes, let's. What happened to all that
You used the "little people" reference to illustrate how elitist my concerns are. Those were not Obama's words, they were yours. You are not as good at spin as you think you are. Your choice to skip over the points about what KIND of executive experiences is another casual dismissal of issues far to vital to ignore, as you evidently would have us do. Those concerns will not be repeated here since you are trying to side-step them, as republicans inevitably do when faced with intellectual challenge, except to say that CEOs are executives, but keep themselves far out of touch with the "little people" beneath them. Sarah what's-her-name has also demonstrated a tendency to be a bit out of touch when it comes to using her office to elevate herself from ethics maid to VP.
Be impressed by that December 4, 2006 to now executive title. You obviously cannot cite any substance behind the title and neither can she. Most of us will not be voting for a title or a label, despite your party's best efforts.
Side-stepped everything about the token selection and Stepford Wife delegation, I see. So much for celebrating women's progress in the political arena.
First chair? Hopefully not (God help us if she ever is). Fact: That possibility is considerably more real under McCain (especially over an 8-year term) because of his age. Again, you have side-stepped the difference between the experience of Biden and the absence of same in what's-her-name. So much for being ready to lead the country. No problem. Says all it need to. 80% approval rating unheard of? You got that right. Nobody beyond Alaska has heard about it and it does not mean anything in view of the issue I raised that you are ignoring.
If you want to continue to make an utter fool of yourself by insisting her experience matches Obama's, go for it. I won't need to answer that lunacy again anytime soon. I'll let the media take care of that one for me and besides, rational minds will prevail over this lame claim.
What ever happened to
all those scathing protests over "redistribution of wealth?" How do all these bail-outs factor into that line of thinking?
I don't know how this happened!!! =)
ms - here's my political profile from the test you posted. Yes, I was very surprised! The liberal part must be hold-overs from my college days! =)
Overall: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
Social Issues: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Personal Responsibility: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal
Fiscal Issues: 75% Conservative, 25% Liberal
Ethics: 50% Conservative, 50% Liberal
Defense and Crime: 100% Conservative, 0% Liberal
and what happened?
did someone put a stop to it???
What happened to sam?
I'm just curious. I can barely stomach the politics board, so I almost never read the political posts due to the O-Love-A-Thon and the pure vitreol, which does nobody any good.
I noticed that sam took off. I don't blame him/her, either. I simply wondered.
As for Ann Coulter, her brilliance and success literally drives the libs nuts. I have her books, too, just short of her latest one, "Guilty."
I'm not here to start a bunch of %(#$*, but I just wondered where sam went. My guess is that he/she got sick of the crap and left. I couldn't figure why he/she continued the fightl I know I won't go there.
I know what happened...LOL..(sm)
You responded to a post that said "what makes you think we don't" when you probably should have, or meant to respond to the comment above that. It went south after that. Been there and done that. I hate it when that happens....LOL.
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