much ado about nothing...reporter posed question as, "had he spoken to any *living* presidents?..
Posted By: flybye on 2008-11-08
In Reply to: He was never asked - Moon baby
i agree the reporter's question was absolutely LAME..."has he spoken to any LIVING past presidents?" um...as opposed to talking to dead ones? I thought his response was quick-witted considering the idiocy of the question--at least he didn't put the reporter on the spot and embarrass her...instead he made his first gaffe as POTUSE and already apologized. let's hope the reporters ask SMARTER questions at the next conference.
Complete Discussion Below:  marks the location of current message within thread
The messages you are viewing
are archived/old.
To view latest messages and participate in discussions, select
the boards given in left menu
Other related messages found in our database
I "had" to be starvation, because no one the
I was hoping by the time I got old and infirm, that at the very least society would've evolved enough by then to allow people the dignity of a needle and a peaceful death when their time has come, instead of dragging it out for days, weeks, or months. Now I'm not so hopeful. Looks like, as if everything else, we're on our own with that one.
Presidents have been "slandered" since there's been presidents
President Bush took a beating. And you think Obama is somehow above being criticized???? Funny...
There was a question posed to Republican below...
I think deserves an answer since she is attacking Al Franken.
If the question wasn't posed to me
why should I answer it. I can't and won't answer for others. It's not my place.
you posed some valid points
I honestly have to tell you I read your post with an open mind and I understand what you are saying. I don't think we can go to war with everyone and I don't think we should. But on the other hand I think there has to be a better way of just thinking your going to be able to sit down with the most extreme who hate Americans and want to see our country destroyed and believe that by just talking with them they'll become our friends and say, "yes your right, we've been wrong all along, what can we do to help you" (well not exactly in those words), but I just think that for someone to think your going to be able to sit and reason with them is a little naive. Look what happened when we tried to reason with Saddam Hussein. He would not reason and threatened us with nuclear and biological weapons. He destroyed wildlife, oceans, and set his own oil fields ablaze. I think we do have to be strong and we need other countries to stand with us. To tell you the truth I don't know what a good solution would be, and I'll tell you one thing I do know is that whether John McCain or Barack Obama gets elected they are going to have one big mess to try and fix.
He did not answer the question posed to him...
"How is that not Marxist?" He never answered that question.
He was answering the questions posed to him - nm
x
Comparing the two presidents
is a little like comparing a bass (Bush) to a great white shark (Iranian president). 
Presidents do not yield
to political blackmail -- Obama did the right thing. He believes his time is better spent letting the entire bleppin' congress work the on the issue and then vote when they come up with a plan. McCain is just making another grandstand attempt that has fallen embarrassingly flat.
I was not talking about 16 other presidents...... sm
I am talking about Obama.
I thought the general consensus of this board, or at least the Obama supporters here, was that we were to not look at history but rather to the future. (At least that is what I was told when I posted that those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat their mistakes.)
You really should have watched the "YouTube bites." It was Obama himself saying that he did not believe a person that is unqualified for a job should apply for it and that was his reasoning for saying that he did not see himself running for a national office in 2008. Since you didn't watch the video, I believe you are unqualified to comment on it.
They do that with ALL presidents. Usually, initially
nm
Oh, so you don't care if this has been done before with other presidents, . . . sm
but you do care if it has not been done before. Why? Either way, the naysayers will have something to whine about. The only reason there is such a big deal being made is because there has not been a president in recent history that has had been under so much scrutiny in his first 100 days. Even if he were to solve world peace, find a cure for cancer AND turn water into wine, they would still complain and find fault. 
So have all the other Christian presidents, nm
x
Not all presidents do have a gathering
Just because they served the Kool-Aid in the Bush white house for the last 8 years, doesn't mean that's what is supposed to happen. Obama signed a national proclamation honoring the day, which is what many presidents have done since Truman created it 50 some years ago. Not everyone needs to drape themselves in their religion to honor it.
All presidents have done things....(sm)
in secret. It's never caused such a problem before. I'm not trying to slam Bush, but look at all the stuff we're finding out about his administration (i.e. torture memos, etc). And to top that off, Bush was the one who initially stopped access to the guest list to the WH. When Bush did it the news covered it, but there wasn't a wide spread panic about it....so what's the big deal about Obama doing it?
I'm not saying that I agree with blocking the lists, because I don't, but the point is that both Bush and Obama have done it, so why the panic about just one of them? My guess is that right wing media is pushing the issue and using it as a talking point; basically making the media being the ones who are instilling fear, not Obama.
The reporter said it as well, sm
so I'm wondering if this is an apartment building. It kind of looked like an old apartment building from the outside. It would be interesting to know.
And being a reporter....(sm)
makes him an economist?
The bit on the bad CNN reporter
Thanks for posting.
My point is that prior presidents have had their day..sm
and time when they were covered in mud and IMHO none of it is right, except to say in most cases the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
But, to answer Jeb's and Bush's family mishaps with the what about the Kennedy's line is dodging the point to me.
Bringing up the Lynch and Dean ordeal that's something worth listening to, but you guys just can't let go of old democratic presidents. It's like a thorn still sticking in your side. Everytime something comes up with Bush, you talk about Clinton, or even the Kennedy's, as if that dismisses Bush somehow. Whatever gets you though.
Maybe it's time to dump the presidents and
X
16 presidents with less experience than Obama...
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Info/experience.html
1. Abraham Lincoln,
2. FDR
3. Theodore Roosevelt
4. Woodrow Wilson
5. John Adams
6. Grover Cleveland
7. Ronald Reagan
8. Howard Taft
9. Bill Clinton
10. George Bush
11. Chester A. Arthur
12. Herbert Hoover
13. Jimmy Carter
14. Benjamin Harrison
15. Ulysses S. Grant
16. William Harrison
BTW, I do not make such important decisions as selecting a president based on YouTube sound bytes, so no, I did not bother with the video. My vote is between me and my candidate, based on exactly the things I listed in the previous post, which I stand by 100%.
Hogwash. See 16 presidents post above.
x
Haven't all the other Christian presidents? nm
x
No you were not - it's obvious you were talking about the presidents
because you said so in your message! Sheesh - this is about as good as David Letterman saying he was talking about the "other" Palin girl.
Not only that, she is a HEALTH reporter and
you could tell that Joe Biden really did think she was joking because the question was so ridiculous, about Obama being a Marxist. No wonder these things get so inflated by the right-wing media. Ridiculous questions don't deserve to be acknowledged. What a waste of time. Someone needs to ask SP why her own home newspaper in Anchorage is supporting Obama, because she is considered too risky to be in a position a heartbeat away from the Oval Office, and the McCain campaign aides have referred to her a rogue diva. Ouch, that must have hurt! Now there are some FACTS for you!!
But I thought this reporter WAS all
aaa
Ha Ha Ha on the Maddow reporter
That is too funny.
Thank you for the clarification about the troops issue. I do appreciate it. You know when I post things they are usually from things I read or hear on the TV with how I feel about the situation. Lots of posts I read below that is what people do. I don't have "selective hearing" or "selective posting". If I'm angry about a situation or I feel I have been lied to about something I'll say it and I will say it on both sides too. I don't like either side and I think both sides have lied to us. One side is no better than the other. I honestly do believe we have been lied to by Obama and he's just ignoring it as in telling us "so what, what are you going to do about it". All the way from his cabinet choices, to the spending bill he just signed, etc, etc (but that is for a different post I guess). Anyway...like I say those are my opinions. I guess what really gets to me is when I vote for someone thinking they are the better choice and then they get in and you go, wait a minute here, that's not right. I didn't vote for you so you would hire back on the Clinton's cabinet people. I voted against Hillary to keep them out. Just very maddening.
Anyway...thanks for the info JTBB. I always enjoy your posts whether I agree or not. I think you bring up some good topics and thoughts.
"spook" came from the reporter...sm
who I would venture to say was liberal leaning. The original email went out under the "Keepsake" line.
Democratic presidents 'suck' in the eyes
of Reps, and Republican presidents 'suck' in the eyes of Dems.....and round and round it goes...
A television news reporter said they
talked about his new baby, not world affairs.
You betcha, and he sent his reporter to Harlem...
to ask the questions. I found it very interesting that not one person knew anything about Obama but his name and his race. Pretty telling.
Did you see the video of the conversation with the Fox reporter?
The BP was not a very nice guy
I didn't know Obama was a reporter...(sm)
How this story was covered by either side is not the point. Or, on second thought, maybe it is. In case you haven't noticed, this is the kind of thing that Obama is trying to overcome - bipartisan politics. Did I call them neocons? Yes, because most of them are self-proclaimed neocons. But who ended up calling Obama a nazi? Hmmmm.
As noted in the OP, if you did not like the source provided, you could look it up through a media source that is more to your liking. Maybe you couldn't find this story in conservative media. Why do you think that is?
Another CNN reporter says stimulus a sorry spectacle.
Commentary: Stimulus bill a sorry spectacle
* Story Highlights
* Jack Cafferty: 1,073-page bill was passed before Congress could read it
* He says Congress violated pledge to make it public 48 hours before vote
* Cafferty: Some provisions enable leaders to grab pork for their districts
* He says the tax cuts in the bill may be too small to get the economy moving
By Jack Cafferty
CNN
Decrease font Decrease font
Enlarge font Enlarge font
Editor's Note: Jack Cafferty is the author of a new book, "Now or Never: Getting Down to the Business of Saving Our American Dream," to be published in March. He provides commentary on CNN's "The Situation Room" daily from 4 to 7 p.m. You can also visit Jack's Cafferty File blog.
Jack Cafferty
Jack Cafferty says the House violated a pledge to make stimulus bill public 48 hours before vote.
NEW YORK (CNN) -- What a joke. Your Congress has voted to spend almost $790 billion of your money on a stimulus package that not a single member of either chamber has read.
The 1,073-page document wasn't posted on the government's Web site until after 10 p.m. the day before the vote to pass it was taken. I don't care if you're Evelyn Wood, you can't read almost 1,100 pages of the lawyer talk that makes up all legislation in eight or 10 hours.
The criminal part of this boondoggle is divided into two parts. The first is the Democrats promised to post the bill a full 48 hours before the vote was taken to allow members of the public to see what they were getting for their money. Both parties voted unanimously to do this ... and they lied.
It didn't happen. Why am I not surprised? Congress lying to the American people has become part of their job description. They can't be trusted on anything anymore.
I'm sure part of the reason there was no time for the public to read the bill was the 11th-hour internecine warfare between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.
When Reid first announced the compromise had been reached, Nancy Pelosi was nowhere to be seen. And it would take an act of God for this egotistical, arrogant woman to miss a photo op where she could take credit for anything. But she wasn't there.
She summoned Reid to her office, where unnamed sources said she blew her top over some provision for schools that she wasn't happy with. Pelosi's snit delayed everything.
Don't Miss
* Cafferty: You can blame Pelosi for stumbles
* The Cafferty File: Join the conversation
* Jack's new book: "Now or Never"
* In Depth: Commentaries
It's really too bad President Obama couldn't figure out a way to jettison these two who are poster children for everything that is wrong in Washington. The Associated Press called the birth of the stimulus bill "sausage making" in the best tradition of Washington politics as usual.
The second part of the crime is the contents of the bill itself. Far from being only about jobs, infrastructure and tax cuts as promised, the stimulus bill stimulates a bunch of other stuff as well. Eight billion dollars for high-speed rail lines, including a proposed line between Las Vegas and Los Angeles. This little bit of second story work wasn't even in the House version of the bill.
It started in the Senate as a $2 billion project, and came out of the conference committee costing a whopping $8 billion. Gee, now who would that benefit? Oh yeah, the Senate majority leader is from Nevada.
Filipino veterans, most of whom don't live in the U.S., will get $200 million in compensation for World War II injuries. And: $2 billion in grants and loans for battery companies, $100 million for small shipyards and a rollback of the alternative minimum tax at a cost of some $70 billion.
The AMT provision is much-needed legislation, but it doesn't belong in the stimulus bill. It forced other things out so Congress could keep to its self-imposed $800 billion cap.
And when it comes to the tax cuts contained in the stimulus bill, experts have determined they will amount to about $13 per week after taxes for the average American. I'm not sure how much stimulation $13 a week buys. It depends on the neighborhood.
The biggest problem of all is the stimulus bill may not be nearly enough. And if the president has to come back asking for more, the next time might not be so easy.
So far, we have an anemic stimulus bill and some sort of vague proposal from the secretary of the Treasury to deal with the banking crisis -- a proposal that landed with a thud last week -- as the two first steps toward solving a financial crisis that is threatening to take down the country.
Obama better step up his game, or it's going to be a short four years in office.
Another CNN reporter says stimulus a sorry spectacle.
The line I find funniest: "He says the tax cuts in the bill may be too small to get the economy moving."
No one in the world thinks tax cuts can get the economy moving (although plenty of pundits get paid to say they do). Removing all taxes on everyone would *still* be too small. Tax cuts are a pointless, ineffective gesture. (And of course, he doesn't say what the little bullet point says he says!)
The line I find correctest: "The biggest problem of all is the stimulus bill may not be nearly enough."
It's too early to say they blew it, but dear god, it looks like they blew it. The one time we really require the congress to blow some massive money...and they get all stingy. Where was all this fiscal responsibility back during the Bush era?
Okay. Where is the petition to fire that CNN reporter
nm
There were assassination attempts on WHITE Presidents. Did the assassinators
think they might not really be white? or that they were too young to run a country?
They also tried to call police on the news reporter that
was there. Stated he wasn't allowed to be there. The reporter checked with their lawyer and he's allowed to be 10 feet away, but although he was 10 feet away, the Black Panther still tried to get rid of him. The BP also stated there was no BP there with a night stick. Yet I think the reporter saw him for himself.
sam, weak argument based on semantics, that reporter's
implication was all too clear, and just another stupid accusation in order to mislead yet more uneducated, misinformed voters.
Bush told reporter Jews as "all going to hell."
Book: Bush told reporter Jews are 'all going to hell'
09/02/2006 @ 7:53 pmFiled by Larisa Alexandrovna
An upcoming book about presidential advisor Karl Rove reports allegations of anti-semitism by President George W. Bush, RAW STORY has learned.
In The Architect: Karl Rove and the Master Plan for Absolute Power, Austin-based journalist James Moore and Wayne Slater, senior political reporter for the Dallas Morning News, will allege that Bush once made anti-semitic comments to a reporter.
You know what I'm gonna tell those Jews when I get to Israel, don't you Herman? a then Governor George W. Bush allegedly asked a reporter for the Austin American-Statesman.
When the journalist, Ken Herman, replied that he did not know, Bush reportedly delivered the punch line: I'm telling 'em they're all going to hell.
This quip never received wider media attention. RAW STORY obtained a copy of The Architect late this week.
Bush's thoughts on the fate of non-Christian souls became a minor source of controversy after he told the Houston Post in 1993 that only those who accept Jesus Christ go to Heaven. However, the future president was also earlier briefly engaged to a half-Jewish woman.
The authors of The Architect assert that religion and ethnicity have been manipulated by Bush and Rove to divide and conquer the nation.
More information about the book, to be released Tuesday, can be found here.
A Republican reporter? All I see are liberal reporters everywhere trying to shove Obama down my
Why don't you dems get your head out of the sand and start facing some facts! Check this stuff out for yourself. Mojo is a Democrat, and yet she's smart enough to know that not all the stuff you hear from the liberal media is true! And I sure as heck wouldn't trust Pelosi as far as I can throw her. Everytime we state a fact all you can come back with is Sarah Palin's daughter is pregnant, or she hunts, or McCain is stiff. And deny what's really going on. You all are REAL good at doing that...
Protests erupt in Iraq in support of shoe-throwing reporter
http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Politics/?id=3.0.2815505803
Spoken by a true a**
/
spoken by someone who KNOWS, I suppose....
so sorry I am not up on methods of drug delivery. Sorry. It was cocaine my mistake. He snorted cocaine. He called it "blow" in his book. So I stand corrected...Obama snorted COCAINE, not CRACK. Make you feel better????
Spoken by somebody who KNOWS how to RESEARCH.
nm
It is because the great "O" has spoken...
and anything else is a lie. LOL. They've seen behind the curtain and know the truth but it doesn't matter. This is one strange phenomenon. lol.
That's right, the people have spoken and
Obama is our next president.
Well spoken, oh wise one.
I am proud to offer this suggestion to all of those who choose to ignore the fascism of the last 8 years and are frightened and terrified (and ignorant) of the idea of a black man in the White House: America, Love It Or Leave It! I have a few suggestions where you all can go, too!
Yes, I too have been worried about some sort of attempt on President Obama's life before we can be rid of the Bushies, leading to an attempt by them to hold onto power forever. However, I think they have screwed up the country so much that even THEY don't want it anymore.
Keith is great. The first of the mass media to speak up about the unconstitutional actions of the Bushies. Why was the rest of the media so frightened?
On a bright note, I suspect that Bush's appointment by the Supreme Court was our Thermopolis Pass moment in history: Bush's appointment led indirectly to the election of Obama, as the defeat of the Spartans at Thermopylae led to the rise of democracy in Greece, just as the rise of fascism in America has led to the resurgence of democracy in our great country.
Now, back to taunting Mr. 644 and the Evil Q! 
The people have spoken now and
they still aren't listening.
It's not a matter of pubs or dems. Our voices should be heard, but there are too many politicians who are deaf. I think we should all donate $1 to buy hearing aids for them all.
I would believe Nancy Pelosi before a biased reporter who is Republican, sounds like Palin, no facts
x
Spoken by the true whiner that you are. By the way sm
Do you have an abortion to have an opinion about it. So that means that all prochoice people have had abortions or else they would not have an opinion, right?
Until you've been killed by an Islamic terrorist you have no right to complain?
If you are against this war why don't you fly to Iraq and tell Abu Musab al-Zarqawi to surrender?
If you hate the war so much, why aren't you acting as a human shield?
Funny. I don't remember you complaining back when Clinton was bombing the hell out of Iraq in '98.
|
